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Maligned films that you quite like

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I have quite a soft spot for Halloween III: Season of the Witch.

The uninitiated will assume that it's yet another hackneyed, formulaic slasher flick featuring the bloke in the hockey mask. But that's not true: John Carpenter had decided it was time to do something different with the series and didn't include the Michael Myers character at all.

The plot involves a mad Irish scientist and entrepreneur, who plans to sell children Halloween masks that unpleasantly murder them when activated by a TV advert. Aside from a couple of plot holes, it's a genuinely unsettling, creepy and interesting film, with a good dose of anti-corporate satire thrown in, along with some limited but effective gore.

Of course, the Halloween fans hated the film and it was the worst-performing one of the series. And, upon its release, the critics were overwhelmingly negative as well.

Any other suggestions for films that deserve a bit of rehabilitation?

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Extreme Prejudice

Get John Milius to write something - anything will do - and set it in Mexico. Then cast Nick Nolte and Powers Boothe in it. For support, bring in Rip Torn and Maria Conchita Alonso. A big Jerry Goldsmith score will do nicely. And to direct, just call Walter Hill.

What can possibly go wrong? Well, nobody going to see it for starters, plus steenking reviews all round (except for Roger Ebert, who was savvy enough to spot he was watching the future of action films 15-20 years ahead of time).

It's brash. It's bloody. It's basic. It revels unapologetically in every tequila-soaked excess. And it's one of my favourite sit-back-and-eat-your-pizza films ever.

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Archie Valparaiso | 18 November 2010 - 2:11pm

Sounds brilliant

Off to Lovefilm I go.

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Twangothan | 18 November 2010 - 6:12pm

It is ace

but it's also The Wild Bunch redux.....

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Paul Holmes | 18 November 2010 - 9:55pm

80s

One of my favourite films of that decade. Love it.

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SimonL | 24 November 2010 - 2:45pm

Easy... Two Lane Blacktop

A masterpiece AND you get Dennis Wilson and James Taylor into the bargain. I love it to bits.

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stimpy | 18 November 2010 - 2:12pm

Warren Oates!

Like John Casale, he was never in a bad film.

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Archie Valparaiso | 18 November 2010 - 2:19pm

Gone In 60 Seconds...

Car porn, what's not to like.

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Doug B | 18 November 2010 - 2:16pm

Kiss Meets The Phantom Of The Park...ahem

Macca's (so bad it's kinda good...ish) Give My Regards to Broadstreet but I don't think anyone has a kind word to say about the Sgt Pepper film..or do they??? Managed to sit through it all once and wanted to maim Peter Frampton.

On a completely different matter....is there anyone out there who like me believes that Beckton Dumps by Humble Pie is the best song ever recorded ever by anyone....ever???

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richw77 | 18 November 2010 - 2:41pm

Sgt Pepper Film

Saw it at the cinema. Quite enjoyed it. I was 11.

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fatmanjez | 8 December 2010 - 9:15am

Starship Troopers.

Fascist future earthlings played by crappy soap actors (and Michael Ironside and The Kurgon from Highlander) fighting giant bugs from another planet. Denise Richards as an ace pilot. So wrong it's right.

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ganglesprocket | 18 November 2010 - 2:42pm

Agreed

Complete with luminous space violin.

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sleepytigercub | 18 November 2010 - 2:45pm

Michael Ironside...

was in Extreme Prejudice. Do you think a pattern could be developing here?

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Archie Valparaiso | 18 November 2010 - 2:59pm

... as well as Scanners.

Would you like to know more?

BR
FT

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Freaky Trigger | 19 November 2010 - 1:07am

Ironside

Top Gun
Total Recall
Highlander 2
The Machinist
V

Nobody does ass quite as hard as he. Ahem.

Met him once too, nice geezer. Likes hockey (he's Canadian).

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FreakGene | 19 November 2010 - 9:58am

Now There's a Brilliant Film

Scanners! Michael Ironside as Revok. Wobbly special effects and a bonkers story : what is not to like?

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fraser_waterfield | 19 November 2010 - 11:53am

Plus ....

Dreamscape (1984). Cracking film about psychics bumping people off in their sleep. Not seen Inception yet, but suspect that this is it's trashy '80s progenitor.

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fraser_waterfield | 19 November 2010 - 12:45pm

And it's not-so-trashy...

Noughties progenitor was Tarsem Singh's The Cell - also worthy of a mention in this thread. People tend to see the words "Jennifer Lopez in" on the box and run away, but it's a wonder of a thing to look at, with an even more inventive dream world than Pan's Labyrinth.

I think Zhang Yimou must have made a quiet note of this scene:

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Archie Valparaiso | 19 November 2010 - 1:20pm

A farewell to arms

Interestingly, I remember hearing a while back, that in a major chunk of films that Ironside does, he ends up having various limbs removed from his being : both arms in Total Recall, all 4 limbs in Guy X etc etc.

He was in Dreamscape? A brilliant film, been years since I've seen it, Christopher Plummer's death at the hands of a snake-headed man in his dream remains a poorly animated classic!

Inception is magnificent, and shares quite a lot in common with Dreamscape.

BR
FT

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Freaky Trigger | 19 November 2010 - 8:32pm

Quite Right FT

Yep. You're completely correct. Michael Ironside wasn't in Dreamscape. I'm afraid I just got caught up when I saw the title Scanners and jumped to another film I remembered seeing and enjoying from around the same era.

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fraser_waterfield | 21 November 2010 - 6:27pm

If I remember right

he gets his hands sliced off in Runaway as well

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maggieloveshopey | 21 November 2010 - 8:45pm

And his left arm...

..to Christian Bales insomniac 'Trevor Reznik' in The Machinist.

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Big Si | 25 November 2010 - 3:31am

didnt he lose both hands

In Total Recall (courtesy of a concrete block and a lift) and started Starship Troopers with just one arm...and exited that movie after being bitten in half by a giant insect (and carries on shooting even as he dies) Respect.

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Ravi Naik | 15 December 2010 - 11:21pm

Starship troopers

I love that film. Its gung ho , entertaining nonsense.

Brilliant movie.

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jackthebiscuit | 19 November 2010 - 12:28pm

Michael Ironside

Word People! Get some face time with Michael Ironside. I am detecting a great deal of love for him amongst a fairly sizable selection of posters here.

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ganglesprocket | 21 November 2010 - 6:40pm

Good

at being bad. He's been in a zillion things, the vast vast majority of which made dogpoo seem appetising. Oh and he had a fan club, run by two women in Shropshire, called Total Ironside in the early 1990's. Don't know how I know that. I just do.........

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FreakGene | 24 November 2010 - 2:31pm

Three words

Howard. The. Duck

Not surprised it bombed at the box office, but its loadsa fun. and Lea Thompson is sweet beyond belief. Just think, if it hadn't tanked Lucas might not have disappeared into his shell and we may not have had the Star Wars prequels. Bah.

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illuminatus | 18 November 2010 - 2:49pm

American Psycho

One of the darkest books I've read begets one of the funniest films I've seen.

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Spartacus Mills | 18 November 2010 - 2:54pm

But was it maligned?

It got fairly good reviews at the time and did quite well at the box office.

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Brookster | 18 November 2010 - 3:06pm

Really?

I recall it being pilloried in the press. Might be my memory playing up.

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Spartacus Mills | 18 November 2010 - 4:16pm

I thought the book terrible

and the film even worse

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Sheev | 19 November 2010 - 12:24am

I think the book...

...is shit. I love the film, though.

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Bob | 19 November 2010 - 10:44am

I beg to differ ...

... partly because the book has one of the best final lines I have ever read (I'll not share it here as I don't want to spoil it for others), though I doubt I'll find any ending to a book as impressive as that of Something Happened.

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epigone | 19 November 2010 - 11:10am

Elf

Probably not much maligned, but I could watch it again and again and again.

See also: Ghost, any John Hughes film like Weird Science, St Elmo's Fire or The Sure Thing and anything else that takes me back to a more simple time in my life.

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Five-Centres | 18 November 2010 - 3:23pm

The Sure Thing

great film..'Who invented liquid soap and why ?'

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Sour Crout | 18 November 2010 - 7:10pm

love The Sure Thing

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Sheev | 19 November 2010 - 12:24am

M Night Shyamalan films

I have a strong affection for this fella's offerings despite the dreadful reviews. Unbreakable had a great comic-book sensibility, and both Bruce Willis and Samuel Jackson were excellent. I really enjoyed The Village, though all and sundry told me I was wrong: I thought it was proper, old-fashioned storytelling; I suspect the twist disappointed many but I would argue that the twist wasn't really the point to this film. I even enjoyed The Happening, though I must admit I was watching it on a plane and everyone knows one's critical faculties are reduce exponentially the higher one goes. Yes, it featured Mark Wahlberg fighting flowers, but there were some genuninely creepy scenes of mass suicide too.

I think what I like most is his ideas, even if they aren't always successfully translated to screen. Mind you I've not seen The Lady in the Water or Last Airbender, both of which sound dreadful, so it could be the end of the ffair for me.

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Uncle Monty | 18 November 2010 - 3:54pm

You might be right about the

You might be right about the plane thing. I watched the new, very much maligned, Clash Of The Titans film on a recent trip to the US and thoroughly enjoyed it!

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pbobcat | 18 November 2010 - 5:05pm

Further agreement

Go and see 'Devil' - I thoroughly enjoyed it. Mind you I was expecting the utter gash that the trailer made it out to be. And it's not really much like his others you've mentioned so who's to say?

I'm with you on the Last Airbender thing but I have a soft spot for The Lady in the Water too. If you liked the storytelling aspect of The Village then it could work for you as it's all myths vs reality.

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murrance | 18 November 2010 - 6:17pm

Agree, I also love M Knight

Haven't seen Airbender yet, but it looks pretty awful. And the critics were right about Lady In The Water: must try harder.

But he had a fantastic run of films from The Sixth Sense right through to The Village: I consider every one a classic.

The Happening and Devil (I know he was only the writer/producer) are both very enjoyable films, and hint that he has more up his sleeve. One critic said about Devil that he seems to have found a niche as a B-movie director: can't remember who said it but I agree wholeheartedly. When he doesn't take himself too seriously and just concentrates on making good thrillers with B-movie sensibilities he can be terrific. Hopefully there's more to come.

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Stephen Merrick | 18 November 2010 - 8:56pm

I'm another fan...

and can recommend Lady in the Water.

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Helena Handcart | 25 November 2010 - 3:18am

My name is Ipsie

and I enjoyed the Garfield movie. I think I was recovering from surgery or something. Yes, that's it.

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Ipsie Dixit | 18 November 2010 - 3:59pm

The Natural

Always slated as the worst of the big baseball movies (after Field Of Dreams & Bull Durham), ravaged for its superobvious symbolism, for Redford's semi-cypher performance, and for changing the ending of the book, me, I think it's absolutely wonderful, has me in bits every time, perhaps I'm just easily manipulated.

I also never quite get what everyone has against "Indiana Jones & The Temple Of Doom".

Seconded from above: Halloween 3, Starship Troopers and Howard The Duck, though the latter could have done with a lot more of the comics' cynicism... great monster, though.

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Metal Mickey | 18 November 2010 - 4:06pm

Indiana Jones + Temple of Doom

The criticism seems to be that the portrayal of the Indian characters is somewhat old-fashioned - bordering on racist. Haven't seen it for years - might have to watch it again to check that out. Mind you, the 9 year old me absolutely loved it.

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milkybarnick | 18 November 2010 - 6:52pm

Definitely

It's a bit cringey to watch now. But if it's possible to forget the dodgy racism what you're left with is a terrific action movie. Great editing, great pacing, great storytelling. Great music!

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Stephen Merrick | 18 November 2010 - 8:57pm

Loved The Natural

one of my favourite films

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MrRadio | 18 November 2010 - 7:23pm

Anything by Edward D Wood jr

No controversy here, of course - he has plenty of fans these days. But his films fit the bill - rightly maligned for the rubbish that they are, but fun nevertheless. Plan 9 from Outer Space is the pick of the bunch; the DVD has a documentary that's a good half-hour longer than the movie itself.

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Malc | 18 November 2010 - 4:42pm

The Tall Guy

Affable little comedy with Jeff Goldblum and Emma Thompson which the critics absolutely hated. I think it's quite charming. And has a very funny sex scene.

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drakeygirl | 18 November 2010 - 4:51pm

Yes

One of the very few Richard Curtis films I like.

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Brookster | 18 November 2010 - 4:56pm

The Tall Guy

also features a musical based on the Elephant Man and Rowan Atkinson playing a total shit, what's not to like?

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sirbriancannonhunter | 18 November 2010 - 5:45pm

Emma Thompson

Sorry, she sets my teeth on edge

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Molesworth | 19 November 2010 - 12:14pm

Snatch

It's got Brad Pitt speaking in unintelligible 'pikey'.

It's got Vinnie Jones.

It's got Bricktop.

It's got a dog with a squeaky toy in it.

It was directed by Guy Richie.

And despite all that - it's ace.

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Paul Waring | 18 November 2010 - 5:08pm

as a solicitor

working in the West of Ireland and where some of the old wage comes from 'defending' members of our travelling community, I can assure you that

a) Brad Pitts accent was pretty much spot on
b) taking instructions can be an utter bugger.

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ivan | 18 November 2010 - 11:46pm

My Mate's Brother Liam

was one of the travellers/Brad Pitt's (character's) retinue.

Loved It ! - He was doing it for his Mammy OK !

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Badlands | 19 November 2010 - 4:52pm

Van Helsing

was on the telly one night and I must've just been in the right mood for a bit of hokum.
It fit the bill perfectly.

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James Blast | 18 November 2010 - 5:20pm

School for Scoundrels

Whenever there is a list of the greatest comedy films of all time, this gem made in 1960 never gets a mention. It boasts the greatest ever turn by Terry-Thomas as the ultimate cad Raymond Delauney and a great cast including Ian Carmichael and the peerless Alistair Sim. The scenes with TT and Carmichael duelling for the affections of love interest April Smith are some of the funniest in screen history. Fact!

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sirbriancannonhunter | 18 November 2010 - 5:40pm

Hard Cheese

Fabulous stuff. The Tennis matches are great,

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Sour Crout | 18 November 2010 - 7:12pm

Desperately Seeking Susan

Most people who have seen it are not impressed - I thought it was pretty good.

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Steve Turner | 18 November 2010 - 5:41pm

Oh yes........

Takes me back.....the summer of 1985

Madonna, Into the Groove, the armpit and Roseanna Arquette.

What's not to like??

Saw it three times at Richmond Odeon as a callow 15 year old with raging hormones...

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Six Dog | 21 November 2010 - 7:14pm

Rosanna Arquette

Mmmmmm.

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Rosbif | 24 November 2010 - 3:04pm

Any

steven seagal film. All the acting ability of a wardrobe, but, hey.. Oh, and 'Under Siege' had Elena Eliak without a vest on. What's not to like?

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policybloke1 | 18 November 2010 - 5:53pm

Bad

kung fu

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murrance | 18 November 2010 - 6:21pm

Mine would be

that perennial Massive favourite.......

MOULIN ROUGE!

I'm not ashamed to say I love it, for its gaudy campiness, brilliantly adapted soundtrack and sheer joie de vivre.

Cue the haters....

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Black Type | 18 November 2010 - 6:26pm

Not one to disappoint,Black Type

It's a steaming pile.

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Sour Crout | 18 November 2010 - 7:14pm

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Twangothan | 18 November 2010 - 7:18pm

Not to be outdone

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Thanks, I feel better now. A little hoarse, though.

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Rosbif | 24 November 2010 - 3:06pm

Didn't realise there was hate for this film

It's brilliant. I think on the whole Romeo + Juliet is better, but Moulin Rouge is a real achievement for Baz Luhrmann. It's proper PROPER camp theatre, done well and not played for cheap laughs. And has some truly ingenious musical moments.

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Stephen Merrick | 18 November 2010 - 9:00pm

Yep...

...I like it too.

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nicktf | 18 November 2010 - 10:32pm

Point Break

Patrich Swayze as a surfing dude (Zen) master criminal, Keanu Reeve as a FBI agent who is so dedicated to catching his man he will jump out of a plane without a parachute.... [ridiculous]2 and [absurd]3, but bloody great viewing with a beer on a Friday night.

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BigJimBob | 18 November 2010 - 7:18pm

Love Point Break*

Best firing a gun up in the air and going "aah" scene ever.

*and Hot Fuzz

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Mark Bagnall | 18 November 2010 - 7:27pm

PB

is a classic.
So good you'd never think that a gurl directed it.

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James Blast | 18 November 2010 - 7:28pm

British comedy films........

I'll go for a few comedy films.

The 'TV spin off' always gets a tough time in The Radio Times but 'Dad's Army', 'The Likely Lads' and 'Porridge' are every bit as good as the programmes they came from.
Also, Tony Hancock's two films, 'The Rebel' and 'The Punch & Judy Man', are much better than many reviews will have you believe.

And 'Carry On Sergeant', 'Carry On Spying' and 'Carry On Screaming'!

Oh, and despite Lazenby, 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' is from the 60s, has the best score of any of the James Bond films, the best 'hide out' (the Alps) and Diana Rigg.

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ranger | 18 November 2010 - 7:21pm

The Likely Lads film

Whilst i couldn't agree with you more about the Hancock films,the rebel especially,there's no way the Likely Lads film was anywhere near as good as the TV series.
I've just got the Radio versions of Season 1. Have them on the mp3 and keep bursting out laughing in public.

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Sour Crout | 18 November 2010 - 10:31pm

'2 more days to Halloween, Halloween, Halloween!'

Man, I love the Likely Lads film, every time it comes on I watch it to the end, for 2 reasons :

* my missus is from Helsinki, so I love the quote when Terry introduces his new 'bird' who works in a swanky 70s boutique to Bob.

'She's foreign! German?'
'Finnish'
'Finnish?'
'FINNISH!' - with massive emphasis by Terry on all manner of coital Nordic naughtiness!

* ... and the brilliant gag when Bob meets Terry fishing and also drinking numerous tinnies. Finally cottoning on that Bob is hinting for a brewski, Terry apologises with 'I'd give you one but I've only got 6 left'

Brookster : curse you for reminding me of Halloween 3 - whenever I think of that bloody film, I think of the TV ad within the film for the masks : '2 more days to Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, 2 more days to Halloween, Silver Shamrock!'. ... and with those dancing-in-unison pumpkin heads! Ggggnnhh!

... as for my much-loved though possibly terrible film, it'd have to be Dune. I want to believe that like Metropolis, the original 5 hour epic is out there and one day might see the life of day. Great cast, Sting in his shreddies, wonderful sets and costumes, and pretty decent effects. Anyone disagreeing shall spend the remainder of their days in a pain amplifier!

BR
FT

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Freaky Trigger | 19 November 2010 - 1:25am

Hate the David Lynch Version But,

The Anglo-Czech version (made for TV?) with Alec Chamberlain, Saskia Reeves, William Hurt and Louis McNiece is brilliant. The special effects aren't wonderful - it was made on a relative shoestring, but the acting is good by and large and it captures a lot of the interplanetary politics/machinations of the book as well as the action.

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Badlands | 19 November 2010 - 5:19pm

It wasn't my fault, Thelma

It wasn't my fault.

Cancel yoghurt.

Nobody cares!

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Beezer | 16 December 2010 - 12:06am

Adventures of Ford Fairlane

Andrew Dice Clay

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Cookieboy | 18 November 2010 - 8:41pm

British Films & Carry On

The Carry On series is a national treasure and should be included in the National Curriculum.

British Gangster films, whilst often maligned, aren't that bad:
Love, Honour & Obey
Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels
Snatch
Long Good Friday
there is obviously more than 4 - avoid anything with Danny Dyer though, except possibly 'The Football Factory'

Also worthy of mention:
ID
The Firm
Scum
The Sweeney
Slade In Flame (although this one has been recently "critically re-appraised")

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Rigid Digit | 18 November 2010 - 8:56pm

Sweeney 2

much better than the first film. Though the first does have a topless Diane keen but the second doesn't have Barry Foster,Always a plus point.

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Sour Crout | 18 November 2010 - 10:36pm

Some of the Carry On films

are national treasures (the ones from the second half of the 60s).

But you surely can't defend Carry on England or Carry on Emanuelle?

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Brookster | 19 November 2010 - 11:19am

Following

the demise of Talbot Rothwell, the Carry On franchise limped on with second rate offerings - fortunately not for very long
Carry On Behind - OK, but nowhere near as good as any of the others
Carry On England - Pretty Bad - but watchable just for Windsor Davies ("that is not THE way")
Carry On Emmanuelle - to be honest, I've wiped that from my memory. Instantly forgettable and complete rubbish
Carry On Columbus - A lame attempt to bring back the Carry On name. Bad film, despite the presence of just about all the top comedians/comedy actors Britain had at the time

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Rigid Digit | 19 November 2010 - 8:08pm

I was glad to see that Guy Ritchie's "RocknRolla"

didn't make your list of "British Gangster films, [that] whilst often maligned, aren't that bad".
The Guardian's review of "RocknRolla" certainly maligned it, good and proper.

Slade in Flame is absolutely tremendous.

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duco01 | 19 November 2010 - 12:10pm

Slade in Flame.

I think it is the best film of a fictionalised group ever, & any soundtrack that includes "How does it feel?" is worthy of praise IMHO.

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jackthebiscuit | 19 November 2010 - 12:33pm

Synecdoche New York

As perhaps befits a movie dealing with memory and confusion and repetition, I'm pretty sure I've talked about this movie here before...

I love it. One of those films where I can SEE why people hate it, and I can see it's self-indulgent (in fact, self-indulgency is kind of the whole theme), but something about it just moves me immensely. I've never seen another film which captures so well the poignancy of time passing.

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Stephen Merrick | 18 November 2010 - 9:04pm

I'll second that

I watched it one night, expecting only to watch a bit to confirm the bad reviews but I couldn't tear myself away. It is very poignant and it has a certain honesty about it that appeals. It's not a classic but it definitely has something.

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Adhoc Man | 18 November 2010 - 10:10pm

Confessions Of A Pop Performer.

Great music, and contains the immortal line to Robin Askwith by a fan:
"Ere! Aren't you that Mick Jagger? You are aincha! You're making a comeback!"
The film has its knockers but that's all part of the fun.

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Mr Fade | 18 November 2010 - 9:18pm

Boom, and indeed, tish

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stimpy | 18 November 2010 - 9:27pm

with Eric Duffy on Vocals

Do The Clapham

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Sour Crout | 18 November 2010 - 10:41pm

The Adventures of Baron Munchausen

This film was absolutely slated when it came out, but I think it's truly wonderful in pretty much every respect and it looks sumptuous - I'll take models, stop-motion and props over CGI any day.

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nicktf | 19 November 2010 - 8:51pm

and Uma Thurman


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Norwegian Blue | 19 November 2010 - 10:23pm

I have never heard a good word spoken about it

But I actually quite enjoyed Sex Lives of the Potato Men. Made me laugh quite a lot at various points.

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Skuds | 18 November 2010 - 11:34pm

The Deep

The fact that I love this film is because of the tight plotting and gripping action sequences - and absolutely nothing to do with Jacqueline Bisset spending pretty much the entire movie in either a bikini or a wet T-shirt. Nothing at all.

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Sheev | 19 November 2010 - 12:32am

Funny

thats exactly why I like it.

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Molesworth | 19 November 2010 - 12:16pm

Jerry Lewis

There are a lot of comedies coming up for discussion, perhaps as it's the genre that can most painfully flop in front of an audience.

I will propose the (original) 'The Nutty Professor'. Many people dismiss this because they can't stand the Jerry Lewis schtick, but I think this particular film is clever, visually inventive and very funny in the way it punctures male stereotypes of the Mad Men era. In fact, I may mix myself an Alaskan Polar Bear Eater this weekend and watch it again.

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pessoa | 19 November 2010 - 2:27am

"True Lies" (1994)

Starring Arnie and directed by James Cameron.
This is a very entertaining film.

Not sure if this was actually a maligned film but I doubt many would make a point of seeing it.
Next time it's on the telly you should watch it.

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Blue Sky | 19 November 2010 - 3:15am

Not maligned at all

At the time it was a better Bond film than the actual Bond films of that period.

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Brookster | 19 November 2010 - 11:00am

Harrier

Is that the one where Arnie machine guns a floor of a skyscraper in a Harrier Jump Jet? Outstanding!

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Twangothan | 19 November 2010 - 5:15pm

Like errrrr

Natch.

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clivetemple | 20 November 2010 - 9:56am

I know True Lies is supposed to be frothy entertainment

But I can clearly remember finding this quite offensive. Of course you weren't supposed to take it seriously, but the scenes where Jamie Lee Curtis was kidnapped at gunpoint, interrogated, and forced to strip for her husband (Arnie, disguising his identity) were really nasty and misogynistic.
I understand that the fact that these scenes involve Jamie Lee Curtis taking her kit off may have clouded male viewers' judgements as to the wider moral implications of the plot. :-)

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drakeygirl | 20 November 2010 - 11:21am

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

Sean Connery hated it so much, he stopped making films. Alan Moore disowned it (as usual). But I quite like it in a Hellboy kind of way.

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James EB | 19 November 2010 - 9:56am

It's...

...a load of old bollocks, but a tremendously fun load of old bollocks. And I've always suspected Alan Moore of being a twat with a capital TWAT. He's so bloody precious.

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Bob | 19 November 2010 - 10:49am

Hellboy

I could spend the film counting the ways in which it's wrong and appalling ...or I could sit there grinning at it like an ape.

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murrance | 19 November 2010 - 11:22am

Desperado

Banderas! Hayek! Slo-mo walking away from MASSIVE explosions! Guns in guitar cases!

From the moment I saw the trailer and Banderas clicking his neck and saying 'let's play' I knew that a) this film was going to be utter tosh and b) I would bloody love it.

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Uncle Monty | 19 November 2010 - 12:06pm

I don't remember the reviews

But was it maligned?

El Mariachi, Desperado, and (to a lesser extent) Once upon a time in Mexico are great Saturday night movies.

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sitheref2409 | 19 November 2010 - 1:16pm

You know Desperado

is going to be enormous fun right from the kick off - Steve Buscemi sheepishly entering a bar full of dangerous-looking men and telling them about the place he's just come from and the (if you'll forgive me) hombre malo who tore the place up. In fact, here it is:

Apart from sexier stars than Il Mariachi it also features this exchange:
"Your beer tastes like piss"
"We know, we piss in it".

With regard to films which may or may not have been maligned, I thought about mentioning Terry Gilliam's "Brazil" - which got poor reviews on release - but didn't, as it seems to be highly regarded now. "The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen" is great. As said, the pre-CGI effects are just more impressive. It's always struck me as a film that would be perfect for tv but is never on. There are a few such films which seem to have dropped off the map ("Donnie Brasco" is another) while others are repeated endlessly.

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STD | 19 November 2010 - 2:53pm

Absolutely!

The best cartoon gun-fight I can think of.

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fraser_waterfield | 19 November 2010 - 4:33pm

Well, maybe maligned is too strong

I think it was probably met with a critical shrug. Especially in light of the spectacuolar reception to El Mariachi.

The thing is, if you show someone that trailer they are either going to be desperate to see it or think you are a moron. I think it might be maligned before it's even seen (in much the same way that I just KNOW Leap Year is possibly the worst film ever made, purely on the strength of the trailer).


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Uncle Monty | 19 November 2010 - 4:46pm

Hudson Hawk

Is, deservedly, much maligned. But it has at least one (brief) moment that makes it worthwhile:

Darwin Mayflower: I'll kill your friends, your family, and the bitch you took to the prom!
Hudson Hawk: Betty Jo Byarski? I can get you an address on that, if you want.

The congratulatory look that (nemesis) James Coburn gives (hero) Bruce Willis? Priceless. Worth watching the whole tiresome movie for.

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Dadwardo | 20 November 2010 - 12:21am

I beg to differ

Disliking Hudson Hawk has become obligatory, but there are many worse movies (I recently watched Zoolander). I find it quite entertaining, particularly the scene where Andie McDowell is talking with the dolphins.

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wellhamsrus | 23 November 2010 - 9:08am

Has anyone actually seen

Ishtar? I suspect that it might be quite entertaining.

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BigJimBob | 19 November 2010 - 1:32pm

Two that tend

to get the Massive back up - Peter's Friends and The Tall Guy. I remember loving them. I admit that I haven't watched them in over 15 years and like a Curly Wurly they will be a big disappointment in a thirty somethings hands but they still hold a place in the section of my heart named Blockbusters.

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jimmyshoes01 | 19 November 2010 - 4:56pm

Elizabethtown

I put it down to the fact that I a was little bit fragile in 2005.

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edbell065 | 19 November 2010 - 9:30pm

In fact just thinking about

In fact just thinking about it makes me lose the ability to type.

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edbell065 | 19 November 2010 - 9:34pm

Stardust (not the David Essex one)

The other one about the magic kingdom etc. with Claire Danes, Michelle Pfeiffer, De Niro.

Just good fun, bears repeated watching.

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Badlands | 20 November 2010 - 3:23am

Stardust (The David Essex one)

Loved the film Stardust, a great movie, & a great song.

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jackthebiscuit | 21 November 2010 - 1:08pm

Vat bloke Guy Ritchie yeah?

he 's alright yeah? Kno wot I mean? Lock Stock yeah? Rock n Rolla? Snatch. Even vat Sherlock Homo number - good films yeah? Alright, ver bloke is a pwopah knob yeah? And if he come down my manor I'd have to nut ver twat. Aving said that I'd still give his ol missus one Two if she asked nicely. But...yeah. He's done some good films. Anyone got a problem wiv vat - outside yeah?

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Sheev | 20 November 2010 - 8:36am

He's a useless shite, that boy

punish 'im for me Errol

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Nick Duvet | 20 November 2010 - 9:19am

Field of Dreams

Look to your soul if you slag it off.

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clivetemple | 20 November 2010 - 9:54am

Blame it on Rio

Slighty unsavoury in places but I think I like it. Perhaps I'm just being ironic, I'll have to watch it again.

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Jim M | 20 November 2010 - 10:45am

If I saw 'slightly unsavoury'

on an advert or a DVD sleeve it would make me want to buy it.

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Mr Fade | 20 November 2010 - 10:54pm

2 that were hammered by critics but I liked were

Revolution with Al Pacino.

Heavens Gate with Kris Kristoffersen.

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Jed Clampett | 20 November 2010 - 11:12am

"Ben Dover's...

... Anal Spunkfest" - not popular with the Massive - in fact I'm the only one who ever seems to mention it. It's up there with "Touch of Evil" for it's opening tracking shot. And how innovative is it to record the director's commentary at the same time as the actual movie? Classic.

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Formbyman | 20 November 2010 - 11:19am

Oh, Dear.

And on a sunday morning, too.

Still, ol' Ben could be very funny. If such films have to exist (and clearly there's a huge market for them, the proof being that he's a millionaire and everything) then let it be the sort of nonsense that Ben likes to make. At least it's comical. Some of the stuff out there can be very nasty, or so I've been told.

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itfc1959 | 21 November 2010 - 12:54pm

Drop Dead Fred

Yes, I know, (hangs head in shame!)

That scene where Rik Mayall is in the tree with young Elizabeth and she starts to cry about how much her mum hates her and is always shouting at her and Rik's really sweet to her telling her she's the nice one and the 'mega beast' mother is the bad one. Then Rik picks his nose and rubs it on Elizabeth's jumper. It's so sweet!

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RiaVega | 21 November 2010 - 6:27pm

Police Academy

"Don't move dirtbag!"

Officer Hightower, Kim Cattrall, the Blue Oyster Bar - half decent sub Blues Brothers storyline.

I just can't help laughing.

Also Footloose. Still Kevin Bacon's finest hour.

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Six Dog | 21 November 2010 - 7:17pm

American Pie - The Wedding

Where the series really peaked - wonderful bad taste comedy and hilarity involving ball-shaving, a dance off in a gay club, accidental sex with the elderly, dancing to Van Morrison, characters pretending to be each other, & one of the all time greatest quotes:"Voltaire can suck on my balls!"

I think it got the odd good review, but I think Kiss Kiss Bang Bang with Robert Downey Jr is fantastic and one of those films I could pretty much watch everytime. Why it isn't raved over as a classic work of cinema, I don't know!

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Jason-Alexander... | 21 November 2010 - 8:02pm

I was going to suggest

The Sex Lives of the Potato Men or Jerusalem, the 'lost' style council movie. However that would have just been been bloody minded as they are both much maligned and in both cases for very good reasons.

However talking gangster films, I dont recall The Long Good Friday being criticaly mauled and it was/is a very good film.

Danny Dyer; this does run agianst the crtical grain, I thought the Business was a great film as was Football Factory (in fact I can take every football hooligan film you can throw at me, with the possible exception of Green Street).

There are also a lot of seventies comedy movies that have been re-evalued over recent years and some stand up better than others. I for instance can watch On the Buses whenever it's on, the fim versions of Please Sir, Bless This House and Man About the House are also pretty good. but seeing the staff of grace brothers in Spain still doesnt work and I will never understand why George and Mildred got the movie treatment.

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art vanderlay | 21 November 2010 - 8:26pm

Well, I confess to having a liking for...

Rocketeer

Bullshot

The Devil's Backbone

Arachnophobia

Nickelodeon

The Titfield Thunderbolt

Big Trouble in Little China

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Baskerville Old Face | 22 November 2010 - 6:03pm

BT in LC's

a great movie.

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James Blast | 22 November 2010 - 6:07pm

"The Devil's Backbone" is

a) excellent
and
b) surely widely recognised as being so?

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STD | 22 November 2010 - 8:36pm

I was thinking much the same.

It has an average of four stars on IMDB, a 91% certified fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and a 100% certified fresh rating on RT's "Top Critics" index.

So I'm pretty sure it's not a maligned film. Which is just as well, what with it being fucking brilliant, and my favourite del Toro film so far.

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Bob | 23 November 2010 - 10:40am

The Rocketeer

Jennifer Connelly. Ah.

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SimonL | 24 November 2010 - 2:54pm

Jennifer Connelly

Ah indeed.

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Dadwardo | 30 November 2010 - 8:27am

Being a fan of Chevy Chase

I´m not sure if I dare join this thread.

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Ola Claesson | 22 November 2010 - 8:49pm

National Lampoons Vacation....

Again - great film with some great lines...

Chase/Griswald lost in the Chicago backstreets - "Excuse me sir, can you tell me the way back to the express way?"

70's Hustler type "Fuck yo momma!"

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Six Dog | 23 November 2010 - 1:21pm

Imagine my excitement...

...when Chevy Chase popped up in the utterly enjoyable "Hot Tub Time Machine" recently. I was ill and it was the only vaguely appealing thing on Sky Box Office, so I pulled the trigger, and really liked it. AND CHEVY CHASE IS IN IT!

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Bob | 23 November 2010 - 1:24pm

Fletch

The 2 Fletch movies are laugh out loud funny too. Nowt wrong with Mr Chase

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David Sutherland | 24 November 2010 - 4:16pm

Fletch always cracks me up

- Can I help you, Dr...?
- Dr Rosenpenis.
- Dr who?
- Dr Rosenrosen.
- Who?
- Dr Rosen.
- Who?
- Yeah, Dr Rosen.

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Ola Claesson | 25 November 2010 - 12:59pm

Thank you very little

don't forget the mighty Caddyshack

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James Blast | 25 November 2010 - 5:30pm

JACKASS

Any of them but especially Jackass 2 with the fart helmet. I lost the plot.

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Acetone | 1 December 2010 - 9:33am

Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse

A western in all but setting, where the feted gunslinger (read bouncer) rides in to save the town (club) from the hissable cattle baron (gangster). Brainless and exploitative, with gratuitous sex and violence a-go-go. And none the worse for it.

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chilly1963 | 4 December 2010 - 5:45pm

With you all the way

on Roadhouse. High Noon for the 1980s. Great soundtrack too. Jeff Healy playing Hoochie Coochie Man while gangster's moll...ahem...dances.

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fatmanjez | 7 December 2010 - 7:29pm

Highlander

Utter balls.

But Christopher Lambert running around Manhattan with a Samurai Sword I can happily watch at any time.

Plus Clancy Brown is The Kurgan. Proper screen villainy. He should have won.

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Beezer | 16 December 2010 - 12:12am
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