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Little Seen Documentaries

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In the last few months I've watched a couple of rock docs that are about 30 years old that I didn't even know existed at the time. One about Rockpile (Born Fighters) and the other about XTC (XTC at The Manor) both based around the recording of a single track. Both were excellent. Both were quite easy to find. There must be lots of these things, originally transmitted, maybe on a regiaonal ITV channel, probably at about midnight.
Anyone got any more examples?

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Johnny come home

Nor a particularly fun to watch programme, but does anyone else remember (From 1975 IIRC), a documentary called "Johnny come home"?

Ahem, any of the massive any idea where I could obtain a copy?

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jackthebiscuit | 18 January 2012 - 10:05am

Probably doesn't count, but...

...whatever happened to that doco series by Tony Palmer "All You Need Is Love"?

Saw it on the TV some 30-something years ago at an appalling late-night timeslot, bought the book tie in (great little logo) and since then, nothing.

Trouble negotiating rights, lack of interest....?

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B Smith | 18 January 2012 - 8:15am

All you need is love

This was available to buy on DVD 2010 ish IIRC.

Hope this helps.

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jackthebiscuit | 18 January 2012 - 8:23am

It was on

It was on the telly, certainly in the last 4 or 5 years.

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Twangothan | 18 January 2012 - 8:33am

Sky Arts

I'm sure Sky Arts have shown this in the past 12 months. I recorded the first two episodes. To be frank, it bored the pants off me and I didn't bother with the rest.

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Six Dog | 18 January 2012 - 10:52am

It's reshown

On Sky Arts all the time. Some great footage, but a lot of it certainly hasn't stood the test of time.

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Spider-mans arc... | 18 January 2012 - 1:30pm

I stumped up the 40 quid

and enjoyed seeing it again, although the early sections, covering jazz and ragtime, are far more engaging, I found. The rock era sections are a little eccentric in their perspective and haven't dated all that well. Given that the series was made in the mid 70s (ie pre-punk) what comes across very clearly is how rock music and the rock business had lost all sense of direction by the mid-70s. The future of rock, according to Palmer? ELO and Mike Oldfield.

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Nick Duvet | 18 January 2012 - 9:07am

You know what

I had the same sense. I'm not sure I got to the end. The first part was much more engaging. Understandably dated camera work too. The country music one was especially good.

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Twangothan | 18 January 2012 - 1:11pm

I've seen it more recently

As I recall it finshes by forecasting the future or rock. Black Oak Arkansas was mentioned. mmm.

That said, I found it absolutely fascinating... especially the "pre 60s stuff which is obviously less documented.

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Robbie1112 | 18 January 2012 - 1:45pm

trawl through....

this rather good youtube channel and you will find some episodes.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MVDmusicvideo#p/u/131/M7cuf0tjdDs

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Doug B | 18 January 2012 - 1:57pm

Not down here it wasn't!

Thanks for the DVD tip :-)

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B Smith | 18 January 2012 - 8:34am

Aaaah

:-)

38 quid on Amazon it appears.

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Twangothan | 18 January 2012 - 8:44am

The one I want to see again

The World of Slim Gaillard, 1989 Arena BBC
Wonderful stuff as I recall, would love to see it again.

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hubertrawlinson | 18 January 2012 - 9:57am

Leonard Bernstein conducting West Side Story

Made by the BBC, sometime probably mid-eighties. The single best piece of television I've ever seen. Time running out in the session, Jose Carreras trying to nail the tricky bit of Somethings Coming, Bernstein rapidly running out of patience... brilliant stuff.

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Dadwardo | 18 January 2012 - 10:48am

I still remember this very clearly.

The faces of the singers having got to the end of a take of, I think, Tonight, desperately hoping the Maestro approves, stick in my memory, as well as poor Carreras really struggling, as you say. It's on Amazon on DVD still - very tempting to order it now you've brought the memory back.

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MichaelP | 18 January 2012 - 11:45am

On BBC3 a few years ago

there was a documentary about the making of 'Common People' which briefly reunited the band - very interesting.

For me, the king of all music docs is 'The Grape Tapes', nearly three hours of camcorder footage of the life of Shaun Ryder. I've got it on VHS, but it never made it on to DVD or on YouTube, presumably for legal reasons. It's hilarious

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Chimney Singing... | 18 January 2012 - 10:54am

I have never seen Grape

I have never seen Grape Tapes but have heard that they are currently in the process of being prepared for a DVD release. I do hope so - they sound brilliant.

The Shaun Ryder documentary on BBC3 or 4 a few years ago was brilliant - it showed him as being in a rough place with the legal stuff re the black grape managers, but he came across as a pretty genuine guy - would love to see it again

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seanioio | 18 January 2012 - 12:06pm

Brilliant

One highlight among many for me was an obviously refreshed Shaun singing in a bathroom & 'feeling' his perfoemance so much that his headphones fly across the room.

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Cobweb Steve | 18 January 2012 - 12:59pm

Ha ha

yeah

As he's singing 'Rock the boat don't rock the boat over'

As the headphones fly off he shouts

'FUCK THE BOAT. YOU CAN SWIM'

If anyone knows how to do a DVD transfer then I'm happy to send the VHS to them

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Chimney Singing... | 18 January 2012 - 1:29pm

Dig!

The documentary about Anton Newcombe from the band Brian Jonestown Massacre is brilliant. I would recommend it to anyone that likes a good music doc.

Here is the trailer for it;

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seanioio | 18 January 2012 - 12:12pm

I stumbled across this site

http://documentaryheaven.com/

Lots of stuff here that I've enjoyed watching

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fortuneight | 18 January 2012 - 1:09pm

Looks fantastic

I'll have a proper look later. Thanks, F8

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Cobweb Steve | 18 January 2012 - 1:15pm

Great site

I need internet telly.

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Jorrox | 18 January 2012 - 1:41pm

Looks great

Most of them won't play on the iPad of course, but I'll try them on a grown up PC.

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Twangothan | 19 January 2012 - 9:06am

Had a proper look...

what a great site!

Watched 'G.G. Allen - Hated' last night and found it a fascinating but genuinely disturbing experience, what a truly messed up individual.

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Cobweb Steve | 19 January 2012 - 4:10pm

'Gene Vincent: Rock and Roll

'Gene Vincent: Rock and Roll Singer' is very good, if depressing (but I suspect you know that one already?)

Also, a great sounding Pink Floyd at the UFO club in 1967 are included in a West German documentary 'Die Jungen Nachtwangler'.

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pessoa | 18 January 2012 - 1:39pm

Not 'rock' but.,

In the mid 80's Arena on BBC2 broadcast a 2 or 3 part documentary about flamenco, it was quite beautiful. It filmed and interviewed people, rather than the more famous musicians, in villages across Spain, the music almost came across as a form of folk/blues music which it was to them. Nice dancing too.

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MrTaylor | 18 January 2012 - 3:49pm

Not even music but...

Years ago I saw a documentary about fish and have been dying to see it again ever since but can't find it because, like an idiot, I can't remember what it was called.

It was all about cichlids in lake Tanganyika, made by some French people who were not Cousteau. Absolutely mind-blowing. The variety of cichlids in that one lake goes from tiny right up to the substantial emperor cichlids.

Some of them use tools and others build structures. Fish using tools!

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Skuds | 19 January 2012 - 12:24am

Hawkwind

I really enjoyed this.

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clivetemple | 18 January 2012 - 4:54pm

'60s rock and roll

Back in the mid-'80s, I recall seeing a couple of live (in the studio) shows featuring Little Richard in one and Jerry Lee in the other. I think they may have been Jack Good productions from the early '60s. I believe Sounds Incorporated were the house backing band. Richard ended up sweaty and shirtless, screaming from the top of the piano. Beyond thrilling.

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ianess | 19 January 2012 - 1:33am

The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau

I'd particularly like to see the episode where they did a cave dive which was soundtracked to Phaedra by Tangerine Dream

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Nick Duvet | 19 January 2012 - 2:30am

That Steve lillywhite...

is a helluva smoker! My god is it really 32 years ago?

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bricameron | 19 January 2012 - 4:45am

Naked Nashville

Three parter in the early 2000s looking at the modern country music biz. Each episode concentrated on one aspect and juxtaposed the modern start making machine with a more traditional act , so you had Matraca Berg (swoon), Dale Watson etc on the side of authenticity and various faceless supermodels and hat acts on the other. I have the three episodes on VHS somewhere. Must dig it out.

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Twangothan | 19 January 2012 - 9:05am

Rhythms Of The World

BBC, Arena maybe, late 80s. They had a great one from New Orleans at carnival time with just about everyone you could want on the bill. There was also one about the roots of The Everlys. I once had them on VHS but I was never able to transfer them to digital.

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Jorrox | 19 January 2012 - 2:00pm
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