Entertainment For Lively Minds
Let us go then, you and I...
Never mind the 'Island 50' programmes, the highlight of my weekend viewing was the double whammy of programmes devoted to the man any fule kno as 'Toilets'. The episode of 'My Life in Verse' presented by Robert Webb was a really touching, insightful and wry assessment of the deep impact one poem (The Love Song of J.Alfred Prufrock) made on his teenage self, understandably angst-ridden through bereavement, and influenced his life choices and relationships.
The Arena profile focussed on Eliot's life and work with archive footage of the man himself and commentary from a number of contemporaries and later artists who all alluded to the astonishing scope and depth of his poetry, which really did rewrite the 'manual'.
What I derived from both programmes was a reminder of the huge impact this stuff had on me when I first encountered it as a callow EngLit student way back when, but perhaps even more profoundly, how much more the poems say to me as an older, and none the wiser, man. There is an elegaic quality which comes into sharp focus across the allusive classicism and supposedly 'difficult' nature of the work, and this struck an uneasy but extremely moving chord with me.
Did anyone else catch either of these programmes, or indeed any of the other excellent parts of the Beeb's poetry season? Any thoughts, or shall I just continue measuring out my life in coffee spoons?
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I have the Arena programme on Sky+
but have not had a chance to see it yet. Looking forward to it very much.
I had a a similar encounter with his work at University and it has not left me since.
I often think his remarks about the nature of poetry - the thoughts on the necessity of an objective correlative, the requirement for complexity to be imagined with precision and the dialogue between a poet and all the poetry that has gone before has resonance for all sorts of fields away from the literary. Not least our own eminent discussions.
I did see the opening credits and the one thing that annoyed me was the use of Dylan's "Desolation Row". It seems to me that that song in particular and Dylan in general would not have met with Eliot's approval representing an almost perfect opposite of all he stood for
Peach, anyone?
Thanks for this post, Mikhail, as it articulated my own response in way I don't think I could manage. I caught the last few minutes of the show and found Webb's recitation very moving. Your observation about the elegiac quality of the poem and the way in which its meaning seems to shift with age was right on the money. Whereas my young self looked upon Prufrock as a conundrum to be solved, perhaps even the portrait of a life that was somehow appealing in a rather melancholy way, hearing it read the other night it felt much more reflective and sorrowful. We grow old, we grow old, yet sometimes these words return to us as measure of our lives more satisfying than those tarnished coffee spoons.
I'll take a look at the show on iPlayer but I'll also dig out the old collected poems.
Arena
The Arena show was let down by the awful modern tendency to play music under/around everything. Apparently Eliot's words can't stand up on their own and need the assistance of Portishead to see them through. Really poor.
Gawain and shite
The same applies to the otherwise splendid programme that Simon Armitage did on Gaiwan and the Green Knight - there was far too much music in it, particularly at the end when Armitage read out a poem he'd written about his experience of working with and finding out about the poem. I can't remember the music they were playing but it was irritating and distracting. The fact that they then had the cheek to roll the credits as well ruined it entirely.
To be fair
much of Eliot's work is noted for its musical cadences and the allusions to different musical forms contained within, so perhaps it wasn't out of place. Personally, I thought the discordant textures of the Portishead track added resonance to the fragmentation and fractured nature of the spoken verse.
Sheila Hancock: My Life In Verse
I enjoyed the very moving programme with Sheila Hancock talking about the poetry that helped her after the death of her husband, John Thaw. She explored the poetry's connection with landscape and memory.
Hancock is such a wonderful personality - so open, warm and witty. I hope she doesn't just become known as John Thaw's widow.
Hullo clouds
hullo trees...
sorry
I believe
that's one of his lesser-known works.
Saw the Robert Webb programme
Thought it was the most excellent and moving piece of television I've seen all year. And he's also provided one of the funniest moments with his Flashdance routine.
Toilets
When i was bookselling I knew a Faber rep who had been with the company so long that he remembered when TS Eliot had an office in their Russell Square headquarters. He told me that the sign on his door simply read 'Thomas Stearns'; I suggested that it had read 'TSEliot' until that unfortunate incident with the dislexic proof reader.
They showed the sign in the film...
...it did say "Thomas Stearns".
I missed that
Thanks for that David. I must have missed that bit. I'm glad to have my old rep's memories confirmed (not that I would ever doubt the word of a rep, of course).
I've just noticed my spelling of 'dyslexic' above, the result of fat fingers rather than an attempt at a joke.
See previous tv discussion podcast...
I've been put off most of the "poetry season" by the fact that some of the programmes seemed to involve celebrities - I don't need the presence of Robert Webb (although I like him as a comic actor) to validate a discussion of poetry. Next week - God help us - it's Cerys Matthews on Dylan Thomas and no doubt it can't be long before we get Susan Boyle on Robbie Burns.
You needn't worry.
Webb was rather excellent exploring Eliot, and I have no doubt that Cerys has a brain too. It is television, and it is on a mainstream channel at an mainstream time of night. Be glad that they have found intelligent 'celebrities' to present it, for the alternative would have been a 4 a.m. slot on BBC Four, or nothing at all, I fear.
I bet you anything....
....that the Eliot film was cut and then somebody suggested that the audience might need its hand holding at the beginning. That's why it started with that entirely spurious quote from Bob Dylan's "Desolation Row" as if to say, 'don't run away, this links with popular culture, wait a moment, you'll see.'
It was half an hour too long, as is nearly everything on TV. I can't stop thinking about the fact that he wrote "The Waste Land" while working every day at Lloyd's Bank. So much for going professional.
Re: the Robert Webb programme. I couldn't help thinking when he was interviewing Clive James that the latter would have made a better presenter because he would have started by knowing a lot about the subject.
Unfortunately i missed Arena
But enjoyed the Robert Webb programme. I also feel that Clive James would have been a fabulous presenter - perhaps on a programme of his own. A great poet - i was hoping for a little more of this in the recent issue.