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League or Union

nebraska1982's picture

One of the things I like about the Massive is that we are a broad church, encompassing many opinions on a variety of topics... So, as we approach the launch of the new Super League season this weekend (yes, I can't believe you didn't know either...) I have to ask...

Which do you prefer..?

Rugby League...


or Rugby Union..?


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League.

Although union is slowly catching up with it at the top level. You can watch lower division or amateur league and marvel at the pace and handling skills, but having witnessed Richmond v London Scottish a few years ago, it was like a fight where a ball sometimes bounced around amongst a pile of bodies.

Much more fun to play too, especially as a forward.

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Richie B | 28 January 2010 - 6:20pm

Warrington resident..

League and proud of it!

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Grant | 28 January 2010 - 6:22pm

Bradford man...

... marooned in Brighton, but otherwise sharing your sentiment!

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nebraska1982 | 28 January 2010 - 7:33pm

Bradford here too

League all the way.

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badartdog | 28 January 2010 - 10:01pm

wired

but are you proud of kerry katona

rugby union/league=egg chasers

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junkiecosmonaut | 28 January 2010 - 8:28pm

Love them both

I'm half-Welsh, half-Wigan. I liked union more as a kid, especially as Wales and Orrell were doing so well, but I'm more likely to watch a league game now.

While a big, fast forward who can pass in the tackle is regarded with awe in union, they are commonplace in league. Union is now blighted by too many penalties in the scrum and ruck and too much kicking. League is less fragmented and is a more flowing game,

I also feel league gets a raw deal in the press - American football is starting to get more coverage in some papers, when there's a faster, more skilful (unpadded) game on their doorstep.

Union has one advantage, I think. A good union try seems to be a lot more complex than a good league one - there are more people to beat, more players involved and more ground covered.

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Olthwaite | 28 January 2010 - 6:41pm

League players are better but union is a better game

It's like war conducted by other means. Like war it's all about momentum and chaos and plans going wrong. Those moments of pure throbbing pandemonium are what I love.

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David Hepworth | 28 January 2010 - 6:47pm

Union

Chess with mud.

Loved it since schooldays, played it till my ankles gave out. A game of patience and persistence, with moments of sublime glory.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 28 January 2010 - 7:14pm

Union

Different skill sets among the players, unlike league, where everyone does pretty much the same thing ALL THE TIME.

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Hippo | 28 January 2010 - 7:20pm

I was born in South Wales

So I HAVE to say Union. Actually, as a kid I played in the same team as Phil Ford (one of the few GB league players to be part of a team the beat the Aussies in OZ). He wasn't that good at the time, but I often played against David Bishop (a couple of Welsh Union caps) and he was good then.

I was crap though - classic lumbering 2nd row.

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BigJimBob | 28 January 2010 - 7:57pm

League - The Greatest Game....

...ever - but unfortunately run by the biggest load of pillocks ever assembled.

I am always amazed by the bias given by the daily press to Union. usual top see full 4 page section on the other game, yet RL gets 3 or paragraphs hiden away in some obscure corner.

The greatest ever player ? Only one in contention I'm afraid:-

The mighty John Woods - sadly I can't find any video footage.

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the mvps | 28 January 2010 - 8:08pm

You may well be right...

I was lucky enough to be a ball boy at Odsal for the few years John Woods played for Northern and so got a regular close up view of him in action... a wee bit past his best but, my God, he used to glide across the grass, glide......

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nebraska1982 | 28 January 2010 - 8:10pm

League for me

(i follow the pie eaters)
There's too much kicking in Union,
don't know where the ball is half the time
and it looks like the referee is the only
one who knows the rules.
League is easier for a thicko like me to follow.

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heathwilliams | 28 January 2010 - 8:14pm

Union

I have not played either but as a TV spectator I prefer Union.

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Uncle Wheaty | 28 January 2010 - 9:25pm

Union

growing up in Ireland, I was unaware there even was another form of rugby!

When I moved to England and saw some TV coverage of league my first thought was "why are their strips so clean?" I guess the muddy grappling which seems the least appealing part of union is actually the most engaging part for me, and even though league moves faster and stops less often I find it paradoxically boring.

The 6 nations and rugby World Cup are the only sport I ever watch, probably because Ireland never do well in anything else!

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Pete Kavanagh | 28 January 2010 - 9:42pm

League v Union

If the choice is between Gary Puckett & the Union Gap and the Human League I'd go with the DYWMB hitmakers every time.

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tonyg | 28 January 2010 - 10:19pm

k'tish

boom, and may I say, boom

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BigJimBob | 28 January 2010 - 10:50pm

Curiously..

There's a coat over here with a "tonyg" label in it. Possibly forgotten in the headlong rush to the exit.

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Lenny Law | 29 January 2010 - 12:02am

Union

...though following Bath is becoming a little painful, and I'm now rather too far from the Rec to voice my support

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nicktf | 28 January 2010 - 10:52pm

League every time.

Union can be an exhilarating watch but too often descends into a battle amongst the forwards and constant kicking by the backs.

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Salty | 28 January 2010 - 11:20pm

I'd rather watch Union

Can't stand all that 6 tackles stop-start stuff in league.

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Johan | 28 January 2010 - 11:41pm

Union.

I find league a little monodimensional. But twenty years ago when I was a student in Manchester in the glory days of the Wigan / Widnes struggles.. I'd have had to think long and hard.

Anyone remember the first cross-code encounter in 1996?

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Lenny Law | 29 January 2010 - 12:10am

From a wee lad...

I'm southern and went to a public school, played rugby (union) for seven years, so it's no contest. I can appreciate the skill and strength of League players, but, as others have said, Union has far, far more variety. Of course, in the old days, players of all sizes and shapes could play Union. Hardly the case these days, when the average wing seems to be bigger than Bill Beaumont. It's always heartening when a (relative) shrimp like Shane Williams gets through the mass of bulked up beef and brings something different to the game.

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Theo Zoffrok | 29 January 2010 - 12:13am

Union

for style and stategy. Plus the local leaguies appear to be a bunch of psychopathic drunks.

But as a pom living in Oz, I'd just point out that it appears that League is really only played in it's home the north of England and NSW (and that's primarily Sydney), with the odd very small franchise pockets elsewhere (Melbourne, Brisbane, NZ, France etc), so I just don't see it surviving long term. Since Union went pro it seems like half the stories in the press are about players being poached between the codes, mostly toward Union (at least round here).

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Harold Holt | 29 January 2010 - 12:50am

Union

I guess it was what I was brought up with. Never got into League - always found it too stop / start.

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chrisf | 29 January 2010 - 7:42am

Union

I've always thought that League works well as an intro to the sport of Rugby but after watching it for while it is just so dull. How many tries are scored in League after a grubber kick which bounces right for the players charging onto it and how many are missed because it bounces wrong.

As someone has pointed out above, Union is basically chess with mud and yes, it is incredibly complex but this is what I like about it. I've been watching the game since I was a kid in the 1970s and I love it as much now as I ever have, perhaps more so.

The sport does have a problem now that South Africa have illustrated that teams can win without attempting to spend any time passing but something will happen to sort this out, perhaps with a law change. Union is a great great sport and I love it more than any other (and I say this as someone who spent most of his time watching football for 25 years).

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UtrechtSimon | 29 January 2010 - 8:03am

Commentator wise League shades it for me

Even though Bill McClaren (RIP) was a wonderful commentator, League has Ray French.


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milkybarnick | 29 January 2010 - 9:17am

Brought up Union, now League ...

... and I haven't even moved to the North.

Union these days seems all about kicking for position. If I want to watch a ball being punted from one end of the pitch to another, I'll go and watch Stoke play football.

League is 80 minutes of non-stop action.

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stopgostop | 29 January 2010 - 10:14am
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