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Lay off Aretha
Sp... Sp... splutter splutter! Listening to the recent word podcast I was deeply disappointed to hear Mark Ellen and David Hepworth make disparaging remarks about Aretha Franklin's appearance at the Obama inauguration. Firstly, I am amazed by how far you missed the point. Like Rev. Joseph Lowery who gave the final prayer, and who co-founded the Southern Christian Leadership Conference with Martin Luther King Jr, Aretha's presence at this event has massive historical resonance. The songs that Aretha recorded with Atlantic in the 60s which coincided with the protests and violence of the emerging civil rights movement were very important, and to see her standing there in her funny hat singing at the inauguration of a black president was very poigniant because of that context, regardless of song choice, which was always going to be shit and not in her hands, or the present quality of her vocal chords. That does not matter, she is Aretha, the quality of her early work is beyond compare, (and remember she wrote and arranged and played piano on loads of those tunes) and for that alone she deserves ongoing respect until forever. Nothing bad should ever be said about Aretha and particularily not by old white men who profess an interest in the pop music that she and people like her invented. Surely anyone that knows anything about popular music knows at least that? Think!
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Funy hat?!?
How dare you?
All together now: "Chain, chain, chain..."
Not again........
Read all the other bloody strands, please, before the usual garbage about value being placed on previous significance rather than current worth. It is what is that is, not what was. Thats called meritocracy. With an i.
Better a fond memory, with an evidence base of decency, than an embarrassing requirement to explain to younger people who she was. Sure, have her there, but please, don't shatter all our memories by having her thinking she's still got it. Muhammed Ali doesn't do boxing any more; he can't. I'm sorry, it seems neither any more can Aretha sing, at least in that setting or under such pressure.
Sorry to rant, but nobody is too holy to attract fair comment and criticism. That way idolatry lies.
Anyone else...
...who 'nothing bad should ever be said about'? By anyone?
Elbow?
I was chastised in these pages for lumping them in with the Keane/Coldplay/Snow Patrol evil axis once...
I've trod very carefully since then!
Can I say
That Wire TV prog is rubbish.
Prog
is brilliant
I kind of agree
I think your reaction is a little dogmatic and is in danger of erring towards idolatry - however, I too was a little annoyed listening to those comments on the podcast. OK, fair enough she's not the great singer she was but her appearance there was symbolically stirring and if anyone in the history of popular music deserves our respect and admiration it's Aretha Franklin. OK, no-one's untouchable but I think a little more respect for their elders was in order from our favourite podcasters.
Respect for sure
Just don't have her spell it out!
Am I alone
in thinking this post is the music blog equivalent of Poe's Law?
Possibly.
I'd check but I think its (up) your fundament rather than mine.
(Grr, it's aggressive Retro day)
Is this...
a wind up?
But she wasn't very good
was she? Not ever, just at the Obama gig. And if we pretended that she was good because we respect her history, doesn't that make us like the idiots who thought the emperors new clothes were the height of fashion?
The hat was a talking point surely?
She's still Aretha
and she fitted with the occassion. Same went for seeing the 89 year old Pete Seeger "sing" the Woody Guthrie "This Land is Your Land with Bruce Springsteen at an Obama concert.
He may not be able to hold a note but he was there in 1963 when MLK made his speech and the resonances of history are just too great in those circumstances and if your cynicism cannot get over that I pity you.
Nice to see Pete restore the "radical verses" as well.
Is it not possible...
to appreciate any historical significance of the performance and admit that her turn wasn't the best? The two shouldn't be mutually exclusive - I was standing on the Mall in DC when Aretha sang, and her moment in the spotlight was greeted with bewilderment by a good number of people in the crowd who knew precisely who she was, but were visibly disappointed by the wayward nature of her singing.
No, it's different.
Pete could never sing for toffee. Now, to admit that you do have a point, when Aretha is 90 plus, yeah, bring her down. Even a croak will bring great adulation, perhaps erasing forever the disappointment of 30 years earlier..........
The stripling 60 year old Pete Seeger, as uncool as Peter Paul and Mary at that time, I'll wager, at Jimmy Carters inauguration would probably not been right for equivalent reasons as we are decrying Aretha
At least Aretha Franklin
still sounds a little bit like Aretha Franklin. Pete Seeger sounds like he has spent the last 20 years perfecting the voice of Homer Simpson's dad.
An Aretha Franklin fan writes:
I bought Aretha Franklin's great records when they came out. Long before she was in the history books. Long before anybody knew that she had massive resonance. Long before everybody had her nicely tidied away as cultural icon.
And when Martin Luther King made his famous speech at the Lincoln Memorial in 1963 Aretha was peddling MOR records for Columbia and nowhere in evidence. Indeed the musicians who stood on the platform that day were the none-more-white Bob Dylan and Peter, Paul & Mary. And don't forget this was in the days when, as Bob Dylan pointed out, not everyone thought that there was a strong case for racial equality and you could get your head broken for suggesting there was.
I think white men have just as much right to criticise her as anyone. Many of those records on which her reputation is founded, that most people bought twenty years after the fact on the Best of Atlantic Tunes That Have Been On A Levi's Commercial were:
a) produced by white men
b) written by white men
c) played by white men
What infuriated me the morning after the Inauguration was listening on the radio and reading in the papers lots of approving mooing about Aretha's performance from the massed bands of the Cultural Significance Brigade who wouldn't know great music if it was taking place in their front room.
It would have had more significance if
Mavis Staples was there alongside her.
GMTA
I don't criticise her at all
I criticise whoever decided to invite her, who I suspect signed her up without having heard her sing anything at all since "Who's Zooming Who".
And I agree with DH that if she was only invited because of what she's supposed to represent by simply being there rather than what was she was likely to deliver with a microphone in her hand, then Mavis Staples would have been a better choice. Her voice is shot to hell these days too, but at least her pop was, like Rev. Lowery, a close associate of MLK.
But if all they wanted was a big-name black female singer, why didn't they just go with Beyoncé or Alicia Keys and be done with it?
Aretha Franklin is indeed beyond criticism...
as this fine performance of Mariah Carey's uplifting song 'Hero' proves.
Surely nobody
is beyond criticism?
Sorry, my attempt at humour didn't translate...
I was being facetious. The clip is shite, the song is shite.
I love Aretha Franklin's great records so much, but to suggest that one cannot be critical of her is frankly ludicrous.
Well
I couldn't tell if you were being serious or not but I quite enjoyed the clip
Just a quick taste of vintage..
Aretha and uncle Ray.
(reassuringly, the dress sense has not improved)
Er...
Sorry. I do think that there are some people whose laurels are so great that they can do an awful lot of resting, but obviously no one is beyond criticism. I wrote in a bit of heat, and I do apologise for the old white men bit, I have no idea where that came from. However I feel perhaps it was not a moment for music criticism. That mimed string thing was dreadful. But the moment superceded that and it represented hope and we can all use a bit of that surely.
Couldn't agree more
However I feel perhaps it was not a moment for music criticism
Of course Aretha hasn't been fabulous for years, Duh! of course Pete was never a great singer but.....
The point is that these people like the event have a broader cultural significance beyond music.
Don't worry
We all feel better now. Better out than in.
Hark the heraldane... Jells sing.
Those alarmed by Aretha's rather unfortunate pause for breath in the middle of the word "country" might have seen it coming. Here she is doing the same thing while murd... reinterpreting a classic Christmas carol on her most recent album:
Yes, that was actually released.
Never mind Jerry Wexler - the late W.A. Nutter (LRAM, LLCM), my old school choirmaster, would have hurled a board rubber at her Very Large Grey Bow for trying to get away with that. He was so "they're words, boys, not just notes" in his approach that he even had us sing "God rest ye merry - GASP! - gentlemen" because there was apparently a comma in the lyric, essential in order to settle any doubts as to whether the gentlemen in question might, in fact, be drunk. And now, at last, I think I see his point. Losing your range as you age (hi, Mavis!) is one thing; abandoning all sense of metric decorum and meaningful interpretation is quite another.
(A serious question that's just dawned on me: Could it be that Aretha's obesity has now reached the point where the effort required for her to expand her ribcage - combined, I suspect, with a lifetime of gaspers - means she can no longer sing continuously for more than three seconds without an emergency replenishment of oxygen?)
Excellent point, Archie
I shall now rethink my whole position on the over-melismatic histrionics that people try to pass off as Great Singing. It may actually be a product of the parallel decline in the importance accorded to punctuation.
You can't like everyone and everything. Indeed, why should you?
If she was rubbish so be it. It doesn't make it any less meaningful that she was there.