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Lay off Aretha

meretrician's picture

Sp... Sp... splutter splutter! Listening to the recent word podcast I was deeply disappointed to hear Mark Ellen and David Hepworth make disparaging remarks about Aretha Franklin's appearance at the Obama inauguration. Firstly, I am amazed by how far you missed the point. Like Rev. Joseph Lowery who gave the final prayer, and who co-founded the Southern Christian Leadership Conference with Martin Luther King Jr, Aretha's presence at this event has massive historical resonance. The songs that Aretha recorded with Atlantic in the 60s which coincided with the protests and violence of the emerging civil rights movement were very important, and to see her standing there in her funny hat singing at the inauguration of a black president was very poigniant because of that context, regardless of song choice, which was always going to be shit and not in her hands, or the present quality of her vocal chords. That does not matter, she is Aretha, the quality of her early work is beyond compare, (and remember she wrote and arranged and played piano on loads of those tunes) and for that alone she deserves ongoing respect until forever. Nothing bad should ever be said about Aretha and particularily not by old white men who profess an interest in the pop music that she and people like her invented. Surely anyone that knows anything about popular music knows at least that? Think!

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Funy hat?!?

How dare you?

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Fraser Lewry | 28 January 2009 - 3:09pm
Archie Valparaiso | 28 January 2009 - 7:56pm

Not again........

Read all the other bloody strands, please, before the usual garbage about value being placed on previous significance rather than current worth. It is what is that is, not what was. Thats called meritocracy. With an i.
Better a fond memory, with an evidence base of decency, than an embarrassing requirement to explain to younger people who she was. Sure, have her there, but please, don't shatter all our memories by having her thinking she's still got it. Muhammed Ali doesn't do boxing any more; he can't. I'm sorry, it seems neither any more can Aretha sing, at least in that setting or under such pressure.
Sorry to rant, but nobody is too holy to attract fair comment and criticism. That way idolatry lies.

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Retropath2 | 28 January 2009 - 3:21pm

Anyone else...

...who 'nothing bad should ever be said about'? By anyone?

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Philip Bryer | 28 January 2009 - 3:17pm

Elbow?

I was chastised in these pages for lumping them in with the Keane/Coldplay/Snow Patrol evil axis once...

I've trod very carefully since then!

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Retro Man | 28 January 2009 - 3:25pm

Can I say

That Wire TV prog is rubbish.

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Doug B | 28 January 2009 - 3:28pm

Prog

is brilliant

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Twangothan | 28 January 2009 - 3:32pm

I kind of agree

I think your reaction is a little dogmatic and is in danger of erring towards idolatry - however, I too was a little annoyed listening to those comments on the podcast. OK, fair enough she's not the great singer she was but her appearance there was symbolically stirring and if anyone in the history of popular music deserves our respect and admiration it's Aretha Franklin. OK, no-one's untouchable but I think a little more respect for their elders was in order from our favourite podcasters.

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Niks | 28 January 2009 - 3:34pm

Respect for sure

Just don't have her spell it out!

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Retropath2 | 28 January 2009 - 4:04pm

Am I alone

in thinking this post is the music blog equivalent of Poe's Law?

Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing.

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Fraser M | 28 January 2009 - 4:12pm

Possibly.

I'd check but I think its (up) your fundament rather than mine.
(Grr, it's aggressive Retro day)

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Retropath2 | 28 January 2009 - 5:24pm

Is this...

a wind up?

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Patrick Crowther | 28 January 2009 - 5:06pm

But she wasn't very good

was she? Not ever, just at the Obama gig. And if we pretended that she was good because we respect her history, doesn't that make us like the idiots who thought the emperors new clothes were the height of fashion?

The hat was a talking point surely?

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Leedsboy | 28 January 2009 - 5:24pm

She's still Aretha

and she fitted with the occassion. Same went for seeing the 89 year old Pete Seeger "sing" the Woody Guthrie "This Land is Your Land with Bruce Springsteen at an Obama concert.


He may not be able to hold a note but he was there in 1963 when MLK made his speech and the resonances of history are just too great in those circumstances and if your cynicism cannot get over that I pity you.

Nice to see Pete restore the "radical verses" as well.

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Gramsci | 28 January 2009 - 6:14pm

Is it not possible...

to appreciate any historical significance of the performance and admit that her turn wasn't the best? The two shouldn't be mutually exclusive - I was standing on the Mall in DC when Aretha sang, and her moment in the spotlight was greeted with bewilderment by a good number of people in the crowd who knew precisely who she was, but were visibly disappointed by the wayward nature of her singing.

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Fraser Lewry | 28 January 2009 - 6:28pm

No, it's different.

Pete could never sing for toffee. Now, to admit that you do have a point, when Aretha is 90 plus, yeah, bring her down. Even a croak will bring great adulation, perhaps erasing forever the disappointment of 30 years earlier..........
The stripling 60 year old Pete Seeger, as uncool as Peter Paul and Mary at that time, I'll wager, at Jimmy Carters inauguration would probably not been right for equivalent reasons as we are decrying Aretha

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Retropath2 | 28 January 2009 - 6:41pm

At least Aretha Franklin

still sounds a little bit like Aretha Franklin. Pete Seeger sounds like he has spent the last 20 years perfecting the voice of Homer Simpson's dad.

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Simon Ford | 28 January 2009 - 7:01pm

An Aretha Franklin fan writes:

I bought Aretha Franklin's great records when they came out. Long before she was in the history books. Long before anybody knew that she had massive resonance. Long before everybody had her nicely tidied away as cultural icon.

And when Martin Luther King made his famous speech at the Lincoln Memorial in 1963 Aretha was peddling MOR records for Columbia and nowhere in evidence. Indeed the musicians who stood on the platform that day were the none-more-white Bob Dylan and Peter, Paul & Mary. And don't forget this was in the days when, as Bob Dylan pointed out, not everyone thought that there was a strong case for racial equality and you could get your head broken for suggesting there was.

I think white men have just as much right to criticise her as anyone. Many of those records on which her reputation is founded, that most people bought twenty years after the fact on the Best of Atlantic Tunes That Have Been On A Levi's Commercial were:
a) produced by white men
b) written by white men
c) played by white men

What infuriated me the morning after the Inauguration was listening on the radio and reading in the papers lots of approving mooing about Aretha's performance from the massed bands of the Cultural Significance Brigade who wouldn't know great music if it was taking place in their front room.

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David Hepworth | 28 January 2009 - 6:53pm

It would have had more significance if

Mavis Staples was there alongside her.

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Simon Ford | 28 January 2009 - 7:04pm

GMTA

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Archie Valparaiso | 28 January 2009 - 7:09pm

I don't criticise her at all

I criticise whoever decided to invite her, who I suspect signed her up without having heard her sing anything at all since "Who's Zooming Who".

And I agree with DH that if she was only invited because of what she's supposed to represent by simply being there rather than what was she was likely to deliver with a microphone in her hand, then Mavis Staples would have been a better choice. Her voice is shot to hell these days too, but at least her pop was, like Rev. Lowery, a close associate of MLK.

But if all they wanted was a big-name black female singer, why didn't they just go with Beyoncé or Alicia Keys and be done with it?

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Archie Valparaiso | 28 January 2009 - 7:09pm

Aretha Franklin is indeed beyond criticism...

as this fine performance of Mariah Carey's uplifting song 'Hero' proves.


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Patrick Crowther | 28 January 2009 - 7:12pm

Surely nobody

is beyond criticism?

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eddie g | 28 January 2009 - 9:54pm

Sorry, my attempt at humour didn't translate...

I was being facetious. The clip is shite, the song is shite.

I love Aretha Franklin's great records so much, but to suggest that one cannot be critical of her is frankly ludicrous.

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Patrick Crowther | 28 January 2009 - 10:04pm

Well

I couldn't tell if you were being serious or not but I quite enjoyed the clip

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Niks | 28 January 2009 - 10:06pm

Just a quick taste of vintage..

Aretha and uncle Ray.
(reassuringly, the dress sense has not improved)

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shane pacey | 28 January 2009 - 11:23pm

Er...

Sorry. I do think that there are some people whose laurels are so great that they can do an awful lot of resting, but obviously no one is beyond criticism. I wrote in a bit of heat, and I do apologise for the old white men bit, I have no idea where that came from. However I feel perhaps it was not a moment for music criticism. That mimed string thing was dreadful. But the moment superceded that and it represented hope and we can all use a bit of that surely.

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meretrician | 29 January 2009 - 1:13am

Couldn't agree more

However I feel perhaps it was not a moment for music criticism

Of course Aretha hasn't been fabulous for years, Duh! of course Pete was never a great singer but.....

The point is that these people like the event have a broader cultural significance beyond music.

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Gramsci | 29 January 2009 - 11:33am

Don't worry

We all feel better now. Better out than in.

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David Hepworth | 29 January 2009 - 11:06am

Hark the heraldane... Jells sing.

Those alarmed by Aretha's rather unfortunate pause for breath in the middle of the word "country" might have seen it coming. Here she is doing the same thing while murd... reinterpreting a classic Christmas carol on her most recent album:


Yes, that was actually released.

Never mind Jerry Wexler - the late W.A. Nutter (LRAM, LLCM), my old school choirmaster, would have hurled a board rubber at her Very Large Grey Bow for trying to get away with that. He was so "they're words, boys, not just notes" in his approach that he even had us sing "God rest ye merry - GASP! - gentlemen" because there was apparently a comma in the lyric, essential in order to settle any doubts as to whether the gentlemen in question might, in fact, be drunk. And now, at last, I think I see his point. Losing your range as you age (hi, Mavis!) is one thing; abandoning all sense of metric decorum and meaningful interpretation is quite another.

(A serious question that's just dawned on me: Could it be that Aretha's obesity has now reached the point where the effort required for her to expand her ribcage - combined, I suspect, with a lifetime of gaspers - means she can no longer sing continuously for more than three seconds without an emergency replenishment of oxygen?)

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Archie Valparaiso | 29 January 2009 - 12:51pm

Excellent point, Archie

I shall now rethink my whole position on the over-melismatic histrionics that people try to pass off as Great Singing. It may actually be a product of the parallel decline in the importance accorded to punctuation.

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David Hepworth | 29 January 2009 - 1:25pm

You can't like everyone and everything. Indeed, why should you?

If she was rubbish so be it. It doesn't make it any less meaningful that she was there.

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Five-Centres | 29 January 2009 - 2:28pm
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