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Know any uncontroversial trade secrets?

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Been listening to Danny Baker's 5Live podcast on my way in and they revealed that during TV coverage of horse racing, the sound of the hoof beats is a sound effect. It makes sense. They couldn't possibly have a sound recordist following the horses round the course holding a microphone at ground level. So for the majority of races the thundering hooves are a sound effect which is played in under the action. It doesn't matter of course but it's nonetheless interesting.

There are lots of uncontroversial trade secrets in other areas, I'm sure. Little dodges and short cuts that exist in every trade. Some of them are staring you in the face and yet you don't recognise them. I have friends who have never got over finding out that Jools Holland's New Year's Show is pre-recorded. Here's another. The hair and make-up credits in fashion magazines mention products that the professionals wouldn't dream of using. Many live performers use an autocue for their song lyrics.

Got any trade secrets - from any area - you'd care to contribute?

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Plenty of Swing

In a similar vein the world of golf broadcasting also used to use sound effects although now sound guys do wander the course with radio microphones that feed real golf noises back to the sound desk in the OB truck.

Before such luxuries were available sound was provided by the sound assistant playing in golf samples in time with the action on screen. This is slightly trickier than horses where the action and associated noise is quite predictable. I witnessed on a number of occasions the poor guy hitting the "whoosh + ball hit" key expecting the player to make the stroke when in fact he was just going in for one more practice swing that only required a "whoosh".

I'm not sure the viewers really noticed it any more than they noticed the "countryside and birdsong" loop that bubbled away underneath it all.

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rich.photog | 15 April 2010 - 11:10am

Televised Darts

The crowd reaction is done afterwards. When the competition's over for the evening the TV director comes out and says "I need you to all lean forward on your seats, concentrating on the board, and when I move my arm, jump up and punch the air." or "This time, but your hands on your head and shout Nooooo!" or "Now wave your pint of John Smith's about, with the logo towards the camera."

Of course he gets heckled mercilessly while he's doing this, so after ten minutes he's sighing "oh, all right then! SIMON SAYS clap your hands above your heads..."

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Captain Underpants | 15 April 2010 - 7:22pm

Bessie

"Bessie"-the old car owned by the third Doctor John Pertwee, wasn't an old car at all. I believe it was quite a new car but designed to look old and had a petrol engine in it.
Also, I'm sure a lot of the clapping on Steve Wright's "Big Show" isn't love at all. Not great examples, but the best I can think of.

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David Wright | 15 April 2010 - 11:16am

Dave Wright In The Afternoon

That should have read "Live" not "Love"!

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David Wright | 15 April 2010 - 11:19am

prefered the original

to be honest,dave.

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Sour Crout | 15 April 2010 - 1:52pm

In a similar vein

The original Batmobile in the US TV series had a top speed of only 40mph

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robram | 15 April 2010 - 5:13pm

Most of Steve Wright's stuff is pre-recorded

He wants it to be Just So. It's why loads of records aren't announced.

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Lenny Law | 15 April 2010 - 5:47pm

new

Ah,thats why ,Lenny. I always wondered why he never said what the record was. I have stopped listening to him now anyway.

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paintyface | 15 April 2010 - 6:54pm

Is that why we keep hearing

"Love the show Steve"? It's like it's an endless loop,

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Thomas the Rhymer | 15 April 2010 - 7:20pm

Steve Wright show.

WHOLE thing pre-recorded. Fact.

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Chris | 17 April 2010 - 6:43am

A few spring to mind...

In a similar way to natural gas having the smell added to make it detectable, mobile phone voice signals have a tiny amount of white noise added, because otherwise when you stopped talking it would go to absolute silence (because it's a digital signal), making the person at the other end think they've been cut-off. Initial trials without the white noise had people constantly asking each other "Hello?? Are you still there??"

I was strangely disillusioned when I found out that the "Sale" stock in record shops (most shops, actually) is specially bought-in (sometimes even specially made), and not just the unsold stock from the back of the store.

Good restaurant food tastes so good mostly because they add far more salt, butter, cream and sugar than you ever would at home for yourself.

Hardly any X-Factor auditionees (less than 1 in 50) get to perform in front of the star judges.

And similar to the original post, the midweek lottery draw is held in an empty studio, the audience applause is added on top.

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Metal Mickey | 15 April 2010 - 11:22am

On restaurants

When waiting staff ask if 'everything is alright' it's not because they are keen for you to enjoy your food (though they probably are); it's so that you can't compain about it later when you get the bill.

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Gatz | 15 April 2010 - 12:06pm

And

they wait until you have stuffed loads of food in your gob so you can only nod.

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Beany | 15 April 2010 - 2:06pm

Not true...

Worked in the trade for 25 years ( since my band didn't make it - and I wonder how many of the Massive can say that. Quite a few, I suspect) and it's never been used to arse-cover, always to catch problems early and show interest)

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ainsley009 | 15 April 2010 - 7:54pm

CD Sales

Too true. All encompassing returns deals ensure that very little stock has to be cleared out. Record companies often supply discounted stock to repromote an album. Recently, the shop with a dog were doing GaGa for £4 pushing it back up to number one. This also boosted sales of the expanded version of the album, which oddly are counted together for chart listings. The vast majority of items in Next sales have only been on sale in a couple of branches previous to discounting. It's hardly some huge con though, just a subtle exploitation of Trading Standards laws to boost footfall at traditionally quiet times of the year. Ultimately, it is up to the consumer to decide if the price is right.

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fedoraboy | 15 April 2010 - 12:32pm

Sale!

I thought the recent 'Best of the Decade' promotion would've been more appropriately titled 'Overstocks of the Decade'.

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Tom | 15 April 2010 - 9:44pm

Ever the cynic...

Ever the cynic...

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fedoraboy | 16 April 2010 - 5:41pm

I saw some god-awful Rufus Hound clip show last week

where not only did the audience applause seem to be added on top, but he also turned to acknowledge different sections of said 'audience' ("Thank you! Oh, thank you!")

Also when you call someone from your mobile, the first 'brr, brr' you hear isn't the sound of their phone ringing. For the first couple of seconds you haven't even connected yet, but the sound plays anyway to make you think you have.

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Joe Robert | 15 April 2010 - 1:02pm

the terrible truth in the pensions industry...

1. people on below median salaries can't really afford decent pensions (what with the cost of living and price of houses)

2. it's not profitable to provide bitty little pensions for them anyway, as the pension company's cut of someone putting a few quid a month into a scheme is paltry

3. people on decent earnings with private provision should be okay, public sector workers with an occupational pension plus state pension should keep heads above water, but there are going to be lots and lots of very poor old people (low paid private sector staff) in the decades to come

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Glenbervie | 15 April 2010 - 11:26am

The wasabi you get it sushi restaurants

is usually ordinary european horseradish paste with added food colouring as the original japanese root is too expensive and not as easy to mass produce.

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Chris G | 15 April 2010 - 11:44am

And...

The crispy seaweed is usually deep fried cabbage.

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clivetemple | 15 April 2010 - 11:46am

or broccoli leaves

.

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Cobweb Steve | 15 April 2010 - 8:21pm

In Japan, they sell Wasabi-flavoured Kitkats

and they're revolting.

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stimpy | 15 April 2010 - 9:03pm

Just as

the recent "extreme" wasabi-flavoured Pringles. Just not-a-lot hot. Unlike the simply lovely wasabi-coated peanuts that take your breath away.

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Beany | 15 April 2010 - 11:12pm

I can remember picking up a

Strawberries & Cream sandwich in a shop after a big night in Roppongi.

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GunsOfBrixton | 16 April 2010 - 7:05pm

Kit-kats

The wasabi kit-kats are not as bad as the soy sauce ones.

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James | 18 April 2010 - 11:48am

Kit kats are so popular in Japan

They bring out limited edition flavours and some that are only available in certain cities

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Beany | 18 April 2010 - 12:08pm

The very wonderful J-List site

delivers Japanese snacks. They currently have the following flavours of Kitkat available:

Strawberry
Ginger Ale
Green Tea

http://www.jbox.com/SEARCHES/japan_kit_kat/

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stimpy | 18 April 2010 - 1:46pm

and the green tea Kitkats

Are fabulous!

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Heathcliff Masala | 30 April 2010 - 9:00pm

"Raw" fish in Sushi

served in Japan will previously have been deep-frozen to have killed off the various forms of parasites and suchlike at various forms of their lifecycle that all truly wild creatures harbour.

I was surprised to see a certain well-known TV chef in this country using freshly-caught mackerel for sushi served up on the boat from which they had just been caught. While not necessarily dangerous I probably wouldn't do it myself, from experience of preparing fish for table that I've caught myself.

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DLM | 16 April 2010 - 10:59am

Adverts

All glasses of red wine in adverts have two bubbles, these are glass bubbles dropped into the wine for effect.

Playtex girdle adverts from the 60s used shots of little boys waists because they were flatter than womens waists giving the impression that the girdle worked better.

The pips in strawberry jam used to be artificial and made of wood.

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clivetemple | 15 April 2010 - 11:45am

In North Korea

Ice cream is made largely from mashed potato. It's actually quite nice.

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Fraser Lewry | 15 April 2010 - 11:49am

you mean

it's a very cold macaroon bar without the coconut-choc covering?

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Glenbervie | 15 April 2010 - 2:43pm

Like McDonalds Shakes

Which are predominantly made from Potato Starch-I believe they are actually vegan. Which is also why they are called "Shakes" and not "Milkshakes"

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Richie B | 15 April 2010 - 2:50pm

Urban Myth

This is one of many urban myths related to McDonalds ingredients. The reason they're not called milkshakes is because they're not ice cream based - and most people in the US expect something made with ice cream when they order a milkshake (in the UK, they are called milkshakes). As a former employee of the chain, I can vouch for the fact that the main ingredient is indeed milk - I used to drink it straight from the box.

More of this kind of thing at Snopes.

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Fraser Lewry | 15 April 2010 - 3:13pm

Oh dear...

...I was told this by a Vegan whose guilty pleasure was the odd McDonalds shake.

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Richie B | 15 April 2010 - 3:23pm

Dear

Oh dear.

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Fraser Lewry | 15 April 2010 - 3:27pm

He knew all along...

and was just trying to justify his love of McDonalds milkshakes to you. :-)

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stimpy | 15 April 2010 - 4:22pm

She didn't you know...

...she's one of those really worthy types. Erm, don't know whether I should spill the beans, or the milk, so to speak. Like a mushroom with two choices I am in a morel dilemma.

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Richie B | 15 April 2010 - 4:58pm

for a long time the only other

flavour of Walker's crisps other than ready salted that were Vegan friendly were beef and onion.

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Chris G | 15 April 2010 - 5:40pm

Stanley Baxter

Venerable Scottish comedian Stanley Baxter is involved in a similar story. His mother was very Kelvinside, and in the days after the war, with rationing still in full effect, her tea parties would always be enlivened by the extremely scarce food - mashed bananas in little triangular sandwiches.

Not actual banana, though : boiled turnip with a generous dosage of banana essence.

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el hombre malo | 15 April 2010 - 2:57pm

Probably not surprising ones

Garage forecourts make the great majority of their profits from confectionery etc, not petrol (as the mark-up is so tiny).

Pepsi/Coke/etc taste challenges always work in favouur of the advertised drink because that one is kept in the fridge whereas the rival is left in the sun for a few hours first.

Guys selling football paraphernalia at matches will alternate which teams they sell for: a guy I used to work with had two cases, one Rangers & one Celtic, and he would take the appropriate one to whoever was playing at home that Saturday. Before you ask, yes he did once open up the wrong case one day: didn't make that mistake again.

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Douglas | 15 April 2010 - 11:54am

Malcolm Gladwell has something to add...

Mr Gladwell talks, in his book "Blink", about the Pepsi vs Coke Taste Challenges and how Coke consistently loses them.

Pepsi is sweeter than Coke. So, for someone taking a quick swig of Pepsi and a comparison swig of Coke, the sip of Pepsi might seem to taste better (because it's sweeter) than a sip of Coke.

Further tests show that blind-test consumers actually find a full glass of Coke more palatable than a full glass of Pepsi, but of course the taste challenge, neatly and misleadingly, doesn't account for that.

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Hannah | 15 April 2010 - 3:39pm

Forecourts

you sure about that? It's true that the margin on confectionery is much better than on petrol, but at the volume they sell I imagine their profit mostly come from fuel.

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Captain Underpants | 15 April 2010 - 5:50pm

I think it is

I did some work with Esso on their control systems, and the lead engineer jovially called his company "Britain's leading sweetshop". He assured me they made more money from Mars Bars than petrol.

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el hombre malo | 15 April 2010 - 5:58pm

I seem to recall reading quite recently that

the forecourt takes a profit of 2-3p per litre.

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stimpy | 15 April 2010 - 6:29pm

Multiplexes are not cinemas....

....they're giant drive-in confectionery stands. Because they have to pay such massive rentals for the films they show (most of which goes to the agent of the biggest star) they make most of their money on sweets. Which is why they sell it in such massive buckets and multiplexes have such a sickly smell.

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David Hepworth | 15 April 2010 - 12:16pm

Because pop corn is not as popular in france

as in UK & US mulitplexes are harder to sustain. One idea chains had was "croutons" as a replacement for corn as a cheap , easy to make and sell food to bulk out their profit margins, don't think it caught on.

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Chris G | 15 April 2010 - 12:42pm

Maybe this didn't help

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Lunaman | 15 April 2010 - 12:54pm

Buy your sweeties beforehand

The Vue in Leeds centre helpfully has a Sainsbury's nearby.

Or go to Hyde Park Picture House, where you can get a normal-sized cup of filter coffee (with complimentary biscuit) and a little tub of dairy ice cream (with spoon in the lid), for less than the cost of even the cheapest options at the multiplex.

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keefus | 21 April 2010 - 2:37pm

But make sure

they are concealed from eagle eyed staff who will either confiscate them or not allow you entry because they want you to buy their overpriced popcorn.

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Carl Parker | 26 April 2010 - 1:59pm

Harrier Jump Jets

I remember reading, although I'm not sure if it's true or not, that the computer systems on a Harrier Jump Jet are loaded from cassette, being 1980s vintage.

And in a similar vein, the computer systems that control the Victorian Line on London's Underground are over 40 years old and feature old punch cards.

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SimonL | 15 April 2010 - 12:20pm

There's more computing power in your iPhone

than there was on the Apollo Lunar Landing Module.

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Mark JF | 15 April 2010 - 3:13pm

Better than that...

Your calculator

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Mr.Giz | 15 April 2010 - 9:46pm

Better than that...

your credit card.

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Lando Cakes | 15 April 2010 - 11:08pm

It's not so long ago....

....well, 12 years or so, that I was responsible for buying one whole terabyte of storage for a corporate computer system, which cost us AU$1M. It was a rack about 8 feet high and 4 feet wide with dozens of drives in it, power supplies, software and so on. Today I bought a 1TB disc for AU$110.

And here's one for the 'obscure facts' thread I can't be bothered to find.... I was told in a presentation some time back that if you recorded your entire life in sound at telephone quality, it would fit on a 200GB hard drive quite easily. Not sure you'd want it played back though. It came up because the presenter was talking about recording his interviews with the press using the little mic on his laptop to make sure he'd got proof of anything he said.

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Harold Holt | 24 April 2010 - 1:36pm

Night-time Radio

still getting over the crushing blow heard on a Word podcast that night-time radio shows are pre-recorded.

All those night shifts in the North Sea where I forged a special bond with someone sitting in a studio somewhere hundreds of miles away, lights dimmed, speaking in hushed tones to their fellow night-owls. There was a camaraderie in knowing that we, the few, were working through the night so the majority could go about their daily business, we were a special band and the radio presenters were our mutual friend who spoke to us all.

And it was all a fake.....

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Sid Williams | 15 April 2010 - 12:50pm

But of course!

Back in the mid-Noughties I appeared on a couple of said night-time radio shows, since a band I was in at the time attained a modicum of cult interest for a short while. One such show, mentioning no names, was recorded on a Tuesday afternoon for later tx on Saturday morning, on one of the big national networks. It was, though, done in one take, as live, with studio clocks changed and everything, thus giving the impression of a live event. I believe that the same show, which still goes out every Sat morning, is now pre-recorded in sections (presenter - trailer - band bit - trailer - presenter etc). Like it matters anyway. When J.Peel took a rare holiday from his Radio 1 job, back in the day, ISTR he would pre-record his shows and then give away the plot in suitably droll style: "I'm not here tonight and this is a tape, thus illustrating the magic of radio".

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PhilC | 15 April 2010 - 2:21pm

not a full on secret

but the "archers theme" has an intro before the classic tune that you never usually hear.


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Chris G | 15 April 2010 - 1:08pm

The old Grandstand theme tune

The old Grandstand theme tune has a weird middle bit featuring guitar histrionics.
It is also physically impossible to listen to without being seized by an urge to play "air kettle drum".
A "light orch" classic.

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Richard Lowe | 15 April 2010 - 1:54pm

How good is that?!

Listening to it again makes you realize just how brilliant it is.

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Patrick Crowther | 15 April 2010 - 4:32pm

While it's hardly a trade secret...

...it's almost certain that the "Grandstand" theme was the inspiration for this powerpop classic, consciously or otherwise...


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Pax Romana | 18 April 2010 - 3:45am

That's my funeral music sorted!

Great stuff

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uproar13 | 18 April 2010 - 9:09pm

As I remember it

They used to use those opening bars at the end of an episode when something particularly serious had happened. It was colloquially known as the "doom music". I thought it had gone missing when they switched to digital because it wan't recorded and nobody had the sheet music anymore (I may have misremembered this!).

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Thomas the Rhymer | 15 April 2010 - 7:29pm

Sometimes there's one big vat of paint

and it gets filled into half a dozen different liveried tins, which is then sold across three different lines, from 'high end' to 'budget'. Experienced car sprayers can tell by smell which ones these are.

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skirky | 15 April 2010 - 1:09pm

Confused...

If the paint is all the same, how can the sprayer tell it apart by smell?

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stimpy | 15 April 2010 - 4:31pm

Just to qualify that -

If the expensive high-end product smells the same as the dirt-cheap budget one, it's come out of the same original batch.

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skirky | 15 April 2010 - 4:52pm

I can confirm that this is indeed the truth

*cough* buy your tile paint from Wilko, it's out of the same batch as some other leading brands.

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heshofcheese | 15 April 2010 - 11:27pm

All Boys

Believe Anything

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Ahh_Bisto | 15 April 2010 - 1:25pm

Anything?

Only if Wendy Smith tells it to me

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BigJimBob | 15 April 2010 - 1:50pm

Why you need a better aerial to receive Freeview

During the switchover period, while both analogue and digital signals are sharing the same spectrum, the digital signal is transmitted at a lower power (17dB I believe) to reduce the conflict with analogue. Hence some people needed to change their antenna for another with higher gain. Then once the analogue signal is switched off, the power of the digital signal is raised to the intended level.

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Malc | 15 April 2010 - 1:30pm

Good info

It would have been good for the Digital Switchover people to have advised us of that prior to our August switchover last year.

And it would be even better if someone told them now, so that when you phone up to ask why no-one you know has had a decent signal for 9 months, they don't respond by suggesting that we all get a Sky dish.

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James Helford | 15 April 2010 - 1:45pm

Shiny shiny

Back in my advertising Art Direction days we had a "premium" car polish/care brand to look after.

When shooting the Aston Martins, Jags etc for the ads - they were always kept shiny with Pledge. It's anti-static properties are excellent, saving hours on the shoot.

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mattread | 15 April 2010 - 1:43pm

I'm aware of at least one car

that has been launched with the sills and various cavities filled with "No More Gaps" or some such gloop to prevent any chance of rattling and to reduce road noise when the journalists take it out.

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Mark JF | 15 April 2010 - 3:33pm

Jonathan Ross...

...is not real. He's a Spitting Image puppet made up to look like a talk-show host.

The opera singer in those annoying adverts isn't really an opera singer, but a below average actor who can jump about a bit.

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Baskerville Old Face | 15 April 2010 - 1:46pm

My Mrs briefly worked on the Wossy show...

If an interview is going badly and he is struggling, the cue to his team to find an an edit point and wind it up is when he says 'you are a good lookin fella/woman'.

watch out for it.

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D.Green | 15 April 2010 - 2:39pm

The actress

who plays Emily Bishop in Corrie has a little false bit put on the end of her nose to make it longer.

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Five-Centres | 15 April 2010 - 2:00pm

The train that goes over the bridge in the Corrie credits

is CGI'd. It's a studio set and there's no tram line up there.

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skirky | 15 April 2010 - 4:28pm

Gig merchandise

In all Arenas 12.5% of gig merchandise sales goes to the company doing the selling and 12.5% goes to the venue.

This is the reason why you will never see bands like Marillion & Runrig playing Arena venues. They are strong opponents of this split.

Also, concert promoters often refer to Westlife as Shelflife.

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Beany | 15 April 2010 - 2:27pm

spin off

This could probably be a completely new spin off thread called "What bands are otherwise known by" but your 'Shelflife' comment reminds me of when I worked with part of Jamie Cullum's record company where he was often referred to as Jamie Gollum.

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rich.photog | 15 April 2010 - 2:39pm

I don't wish

to be disloyal to my favourite band, but that's not the only reason Marillion don't play arenas, is it?

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Fraser M | 16 April 2010 - 12:36pm

Oh ye of little faith

Most arenas can fold themselves into smaller configurations but still insist on charging top whack on merchandise and bags of crisps. Funny enough all members of the National Arenas Association charge the same rate. ;-}

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Beany | 17 April 2010 - 9:28am

Does the Albert Hall not

Does the Albert Hall not count? Serious query. 'Cos I saw Runrig - on more than one occasion - at the RAH

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sitheref2409 | 18 April 2010 - 2:48am

Does now probably

They are fairly new members of the NAA

http://www.nationalarenasassociation.com/

Get together with this lot occasionally for a moan and a chinwag

http://www.concertpromotersassociation.co.uk/

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Beany | 18 April 2010 - 11:46am

Postmen....

Have to sign the Official Secrets Act...

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Six Dog | 15 April 2010 - 2:32pm

Official Secrets Act

I was once told by a lawyer that this Act applies to public servants whether they sign it or not, as it is a law. In the same way that, say, the law on burglary applies to everyone- you don't have to sign a piece of paper to acknowledge it.

She said that civil servants are made to sign it as a reminder that it exists (or a gentle threat).

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Melville | 15 April 2010 - 3:01pm

It applies to everyone, whether you sign it or not.

Those who sign it are made to do so such that they can't use a defence that they didn't know it applied to them or hadn't read it.

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stimpy | 15 April 2010 - 4:45pm

I knew this...

...but I've always been confused by it. Ignorance is never a defence, legally, is it? So why the belt-and-braces?

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Bob | 15 April 2010 - 4:47pm

it can be

...sometimes.

Having proof that someone was aware that their actions were wrong greatly strengthens a case.

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styrofoam plates | 15 April 2010 - 10:13pm

I do know that Microsoft

forces every employee worldwide through a mind-numbingly stupid series of training sessions once a year, along the lines of 'do you think it's ok to accept money or goods to influence your purchasing decisions?', exactly because someone, somewhere in the world once successfully used a defense that they 'didn't know bribery was against company policy'. So now no-one can use that defense because everyone has had to successfully answer the question with a 'no', or HR jump all over you.

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Harold Holt | 16 April 2010 - 2:05am

Corporate ethics training

is becoming widespread despite the obvious oxymoron overtones (now there's a band name). It's not so much HR jumping on you (I would say that, I work in HR), it's nervous audit committees - the board members that answer to shareholders on matters of risk and compliance - taking the belt and braces approach mentioned above just in case someone taking - or indeed giving - a bung attempts the "no one told me this was wrong" defence.

And it's not as if instances don't arise - just in the year to date colleagues of mine have been asked to make a "donation" to a charity sponsored by a local government official in return for making a local licensing issue go away, whilst in another country an employee was jailed after blowing the whistle on his bribe taking boss (we did get him back out).

The "no one told" me defence still appears occasionally. A fairly senior manager once told me he couldn't see the problem with downloading adult material onto his work computer as no one had ever told him otherwise. I pointed out that we'd never told him not to drive his company car on the pavement either, but it seemed a reasonable unspoken expectation. He switched tack and said that he had no choice as his wife would have objected if he'd downloaded the stuff at home. Well, if only he'd told us that at the start ....

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fortuneight | 16 April 2010 - 9:39am

Gorgeous food photography?

Only possible with hairspray. Preservative and shiny.

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Roast Potato | 15 April 2010 - 3:02pm

Sorry to disappoint

but the hooves are very much real, David. Combination of sequenced mics at the side of the course and the one on the Range Rover you see hurtling along with the leaders on the inside of the track. Danny's just being a scamp - file alongside his 13th sign of the zodiac 'fact'.

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Chris | 15 April 2010 - 3:03pm

Maybe Danny's fact was once correct

but, unbeknown to him, has been overtaken by technology?

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Mark JF | 15 April 2010 - 3:27pm

I worked in racing

I worked in racing broadcasting for a while and certainly saw no evidence of adding in an effects track

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tim tunes | 19 April 2010 - 3:53pm

87% of statistics

are made up.

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Mark JF | 15 April 2010 - 3:14pm

Sonny Crockett's Ferrari in Miami Vice

was actually a kit car. Ferrari hated the fact that it was quite well known this was a kit replica and eventually gave them a genuine car to use, which the film crew supplemented with a kit car for the more risky stunts.

I believe the Audi in Life On Mars ("Fire up the Quattro!") is genuine.

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Mark JF | 15 April 2010 - 3:34pm

Although it bugs me how a DCI

could afford an Audi Quattro in 1981.

The list price was approx 4 times the cost of a Ford Escort - that equates to about £75,000 today.

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stimpy | 15 April 2010 - 5:04pm

The Ferrari California

used in Ferris Beuller's day off was a fake too and look you can buy it
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/32438/ferris-bueller-ferrari-250gt-aucti...

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Chris G | 15 April 2010 - 5:43pm

The Ferraris in the Top Gear stadium show

were reputed to be kit cars when they were down here a year or so back. It were all over 't press.

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Harold Holt | 16 April 2010 - 1:40pm

Cadbury's chocolate

was originally made in the late 1800s with milk that was just about to go off (no refrigeration in those days). To maintain the distinctive "Cadbury flavour", it now has blue cheese flavouring added. Check out for yourself next time you eat a bar of Dairy Milk.

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Humphrey Plugg | 15 April 2010 - 3:40pm

Not sure about Cadbury

however it's certainly true about US chocolate, which is one reason why the likes of Hershey bars taste vile to the European palate. It (propionic acid, I think) also used to be added to Mars' M&Ms in order to give them that authentic sour milk taste - not sure if that is still done.

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Lando Cakes | 15 April 2010 - 5:18pm

More Chocolate Facts

2 stick Kit Kats taste different to 4 stick Kit Kats because they are made in different factories.

Walls Feasts are made of whipped bits of broken Magnums and other chocolate ice creams that have fallen on the floor in the factory (while still in their wrappers obviously)

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simonperrins | 15 April 2010 - 8:38pm

When I were a lad

Many of the cheap supermarket soaps were made in the Imperial Leather factory where I worked and contained all the gubbins swept off the floor - not in their wrappers either.

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Beany | 15 April 2010 - 11:16pm

Yet more chocolate facts

Do you remember that tantalising crunch you used to hear when red-lipped beauties bit into choc-ices on tv ads?

That was the sound of old 78rpm records being snapped in half, that was...

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Pax Romana | 18 April 2010 - 3:24am

The steam rising from hot food in adverts...

... comes not from the food, but from a tampon that's been soaked in water and has just come out of the microwave.

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Reno Dakota | 15 April 2010 - 3:41pm

Farmers used to add stuff to chicken feed

to make the egg yolks more yellowy

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latenitetellyvision | 15 April 2010 - 3:55pm

A&E

When you visit A&E, the reason you're kept waiting in the waiting room with that problem you've had for a few weeks is that it's not an emergency and we have ambulances with strokes and people hit by cars coming in the back.

The clue is in the name: accident, emergency.

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DrJ | 15 April 2010 - 4:13pm

Teachers...

...play games while invigilating exams, much in the same manner as in the Armstrong And Miller sketches.

The best is Invigilation Tag, which is like a traditional game of tag, but conducted at a stately, thoughtful walking pace. It's deeply strategic, and bloody hilarious. I can never do it without getting the giggles.

Also good is Uggo Bingo, where you stand next to the most facially challenged child in the hall for the benefit and amusement of your colleagues.

Who says working with children stunts your emotional development?

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Bob | 15 April 2010 - 4:50pm

Brilliant

Makes me want to do teacher training.

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Fraser Lewry | 15 April 2010 - 4:58pm

I did teacher training

But they didn't teach me that. A serious shortcoming. Had they taught me that they may have kept me in the profession long enough to properly qualify.

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Fazackerly | 15 April 2010 - 5:18pm

I'll raise it...

...next time I meet any teacher training bods. Frankly, I'm horrified that people are being prepared for the classroom without a thorough grounding in puerile time-assassination techniques.

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Bob | 15 April 2010 - 7:31pm

The TV series 'Teachers' included an episode

where Kurt and Brian played 'paper war' whilst invigilating - who could hand out their pile of extra paper first...

1
stimpy | 15 April 2010 - 5:11pm

Ha!

Amateurs!

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Bob | 15 April 2010 - 5:15pm

Teachers

Fill in the last six appointments on Parents Evening, with favourite footballing surnames.

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stevieblunder | 16 April 2010 - 11:13am

We also play parents' evening bingo

One gets a grid of 9 things to say or do throughout the evening. It's lots of fun.

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matthew | 16 April 2010 - 5:43pm

It extends to schools ministers

A recent one sought to enliven the mind-numbing tedium of GCSE results day press interviews (the same old questions you've had for the last x years asked by third stringers - who aren't on their hols in August - from every national and local radio and TV station in the country) by lobbing in song titles.

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spt | 17 April 2010 - 9:14pm

Cows don't look like cows on film,

so they have to use horses painted to look like cows. When they want to film a horse they tape a load of cats together.

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ChaosandMorphine | 15 April 2010 - 5:17pm

Lots of supermarket brand cereals

are made by Nestlé.
But Kelloggs only make Kelloggs.

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ChaosandMorphine | 15 April 2010 - 5:20pm

The Great Wall Of China

is only visible from space.

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ChaosandMorphine | 15 April 2010 - 5:21pm

Have you got that the right way round?

I thought space was only visible from The Great Wall of China.

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Mark JF | 15 April 2010 - 7:41pm

The Data Protection Act...

...goes out of the window when certain large banks use offshoring/outsourcing.

You wouldn't believe the number of *known* bugs that end up in shrinkwrapped software. You, dear customer, are the beta tester.

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nicktf | 15 April 2010 - 5:21pm

All the actors who have played Doctor Who

have to have been to medical school.

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ChaosandMorphine | 15 April 2010 - 5:23pm

This includes the short lived Paul McGann

who has a famous french half brother Renault McGann

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Chris G | 15 April 2010 - 6:08pm

Every Indian Restaurant Menu in Britain.....

...has got 'Recommended for Beginners' next to the Korma.

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Pilleus Jr | 15 April 2010 - 5:46pm

I don't know if it's because

I've just been listening to a Radio 4 programme about Islam, Christianity and Secularism, but I read that as

"Recommended for Beginners" next to the Koran

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Humphrey Plugg | 15 April 2010 - 6:38pm

McDonalds...

...aren't in the burger business, but real estate - the burgers are merely a means for their franchisees to make the rent payments to the clown.

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nicktf | 15 April 2010 - 6:07pm

Possibly a lie

but I was told in an Economics O Level class that Heinz make every baked bean consumed in the UK.

All those other brands or supermarket own makes are simply made to different recpies (ie cheaper) by Heinz.

As I say, possibly bollocks.

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Beezer | 15 April 2010 - 6:14pm

I do know from canning factory experience...

... that many different brands of baked beans are made from the same beans with the same sauce, but diluted according to the price of the brand, e.g. Heinz = lots of beans, 100% sauce, next down the line = slightly less beans per can, slightly-watered down sauce, and so on.

In a reverse scenario, the reason you can't buy Wall's beefburgers (as opposed to every other kind of meat product) is because they are exclusive suppliers to Wimpy and have been for decades.

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Metal Mickey | 16 April 2010 - 8:23am

One Korean company

makes all the microwave ovens in the world. Can't say who but it's name rhymes with ham hung

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simon kumar | 16 April 2010 - 2:42pm

Four companies

make all the flat tv screens.

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ChaosandMorphine | 16 April 2010 - 3:20pm

Let me guess...

Ekco, DER, Rediffusion, Radio Rentals?

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stimpy | 17 April 2010 - 11:03am

Microwave Ovens

Er...not entirely accurate. Most microwaves are made or assembled in factories in South China (the Pearl River Delta). There is one factory in that location that produces 46% of the world's microwave ovens.

There are also factories in that region that make over 90% of the world's sex toys.

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Baskerville Old Face | 17 April 2010 - 12:09am

Much to my horror...

I learnt recently that the animals on Animal Magic didn't really speak but were in fact voiced by Johnny Morris.

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Patrick Crowther | 15 April 2010 - 6:38pm

worse than that

Johnny M wasn't even a zoo keeper

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Chris G | 15 April 2010 - 6:54pm

I think the Beeb

should apologise for this gross deception. I feel my entire life has been built on a lie and I am now unable to trust anything broadcast... (cont'd page 94).

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Mark JF | 16 April 2010 - 7:52am

Let me pre-empt this by saying...

... that this is not standard practice. I don't want to start "I knew all hi-fi was a con" type debate, but someone I know (who shall remain nameless) was once the sales manager for a manufacturer (who shall also remain nameless) of amplifiers, CD players, etc., and their sales at the time of his hiring were not very good. Their best selling amp had been around for a few years so "Mike" decided it was time for an update, get some reviews on a new Mark II model and generate some sales.

Unfortunately, the company didn't have any money for a complete re-design, so Mike got them to make a new face-plate from slightly thicker aluminium with a slightly altered design on the front and they'd call it the new model.

They sent it out to reviewers and it got rave reviews, sold quite well and basically saved the company.

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Billybob Dylan | 15 April 2010 - 7:00pm

It happened in computing too.

The same kind of tricks have happened in the computer industry.

Back in the 1990s I worked for a place that resold expensive computer systems. There were two models of the basic server, the only real difference was that one ran at a slightly faster speed than the other.

The really expensive components were the memory boards, which had to bought from the manufacturer. The ones for the faster system cost around four times that of the slower one, and yet they looked identical. Indeed they were - the only difference was that an undocumented small switch on the board switched a board from one type to the other.

The same system would also only work with the manufacturer's own hard drives, which again cost about 4 times the price of normal ones. These were actually just standard off-the shelf drives; the manufacturer just charged for formatting them!

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JQW | 15 April 2010 - 9:20pm

I remember that

one chip maker back in the 80's only made one chip, and introduced micro-code additions to slow it down so they could have a range of models/price points. They no longer make chips, having switched to boxing Intel gear many moons ago.

I also seem to recall reading a long time ago that Intel generally produce only one kind of chip in any given line, and the speed a chip is capable of varies due to manufacturing variance, so when they test them they are figuring out not only whether it works, but also whether it's going to be 2GHz, 3GHz, 3.3GHz etc. May be different these days.

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Harold Holt | 16 April 2010 - 2:21am

Yep

I remember that very fact from the early 90s: CPUs rolling off the production line which didn't quite make the top grade were simply rebadged and sold as a lesser model, designed to be used in slower/more basic computers. Easy really. Would not surprise me if this was still the case.

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PhilC | 16 April 2010 - 2:13pm

Before then..

In the days of the 8-bit microcomputers, some manufacturers saved money by fitting their machines with reject memory chips. As long as half of the chip worked fine it could still be used if wired up correctly. I'm certain that one of Tandy's machines did this.

Even before then Clive Sinclair did something similar with transistors. He bought vast quantities of rejects, tested them, and sold the ones that worked for up to eight times the cost price, depending on how well they worked.

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JQW | 16 April 2010 - 11:11pm

Was that…

… McCain's?

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David Rothon | 16 April 2010 - 4:00pm

Reminds me of this

From the B3ta.com Question Of The Week, on the subject of "Cheap Tat":

"Years ago I bought an Amstrad Stacking Hi-Fi system. . And as is my wont, I stripped it down because I was fascinated with the "Noise Reduction" button. If you pressed it, a wee red light came on. But to my untrained ear, I couldn't make out the slightest change in the sound. So I had a look.

Turns out that the noise reduction button had one function and one function only. It turned on the LED. It wasn't connected to anything else - just a simple on/off switch for the LED."

(http://www.b3ta.com/questions/cheaptat/post113004)

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Cadabra | 16 April 2010 - 11:42pm

Shhhhh..

Linn, Musical Fidelity and all the other high-end lads found this out a long time ago...

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Lenny Law | 17 April 2010 - 12:50am

new

All dog and cat food has to be fit for human consumption in the EU. So someone's job is eating it to ensure it passes the right regulations.

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paintyface | 15 April 2010 - 7:20pm

An ex-FPO of mine worked for Spillers pet foods

in the 1980s and their graduate trainees spent some time at their development centre during which time they were presented with the company's products at dinner.

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stimpy | 15 April 2010 - 8:02pm

Sounds competitive

Did they Winalot?

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Baskerville Old Face | 15 April 2010 - 9:56pm

"How does the dog food taste, Malcolm?"

"Rough!"

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Billybob Dylan | 15 April 2010 - 8:09pm

Bruce Forsythe

had plastic surgery to move his mouth 3 inches up his chin in 1953 because his agent told him he needed a gimmick.

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Cobweb Steve | 15 April 2010 - 8:31pm

Roger Waters and David Gilmour...

... are actually best mates and only maintain the charade for their own amusement - and to avoid having to pay the other £10 - on a bet over who would crack first.

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Formbyman | 15 April 2010 - 9:21pm

That thing dentists do..

When they make you sit in the waiting room for ten minutes to "let the anaesthetic take.."

A properly given local anaesthetic is working at full clatter after two minutes.

The dentist is just sending you out so he can have a quick look at the Word blog on his lappie. Possibly.

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Lenny Law | 15 April 2010 - 11:33pm

Bastard!

Is he one of those dentists that asks you if you want the more expensive procedure while he's poking around in your gobhole? As you are unable to speak he takes the nargh argh sound to mean a yes.

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Beany | 15 April 2010 - 11:43pm

Beany..

The "He" to whom you refer is me.

No I don't.

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Lenny Law | 16 April 2010 - 12:03am

Psst. Knew that

but I would have known if you were treating me 'cos you would have been playing decent sounds in the background instead of crappy Radio Smooth FM.

The "he" I referred to was my ex-dentist who was trained by Sir Larry from Marathon Man.

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Beany | 16 April 2010 - 12:21am

Anaesthetics

are for wimps. Let the dentist drill.

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Mark JF | 16 April 2010 - 7:55am

oh no

last autumn went for root canal treatment in a rear molar - big injection, lips numb, here we go ...

what i was told *afterwards* was like secondary school chemistry ... that infections in the root can be acid/alkali (can't remember which) but the anaesthetic can be alkali/acid (ditto) - the upshot being that the PH of the infection cancels out the anaesthetic which then doesn't work properly ... la dentista drilled into my unanaesthetised root canal and it was *very sore indeed* ... she waited a minute or two for me to collect myself, and for "the anaesthetic to work" then tried again ... again, it was *very sore indeed* and i started to gain some insight into the business end of Marathon Man... then she sent me home and said we'll try again next week ...

so i am happy to be a wimp ... bring on the mouth-freeze

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Glenbervie | 16 April 2010 - 10:35am

Trade secret..

That's what we tell people if we've missed with the injection..

Acute inflammation, particularly localised abscess formation, causes the soft tissues to become more acidic. This prevents the local anaesthetic from doing the chemical stuff it needs to to work.

However..

This is only true if you are using infiltration anaesthesia - injecting next to the tooth, usually used in the upper jaw or the front ten teeth in the lower jaw and is only really relevant for extractions. Root canal work in these areas is normally painless.

Conduction anaesthesia uses an injection around a nerve trunk at the back of the mouth, distant from the source of infection. This nails the lower molars. In a lower molar which is going potty, for reasons which would take too long to explain, you often need a lot of anaesthetic in a lot of strange places to properly deaden the bugger. It is often easier, if your LA technique is a bit shaky, to stick a dressing into said tooth and send the patient away to let the chemicals do their work prior to trying again later.

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Lenny Law | 16 April 2010 - 7:40pm

Okay...

... can we stop with the dentist stuff now please? I can feel my lower right 10 tingling. Or something. Anyway, you're scaring me.

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Susie Baby | 16 April 2010 - 8:00pm

When you're contemplating an extraction

do you ever feel the urge to ask "Do you want the tooth or something beautiful?". Or not?.

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skirky | 4 May 2010 - 3:07pm

Not yet.

But I fancy I might..

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Lenny Law | 4 May 2010 - 4:41pm

Perhaps if you need cheering up...

... when you're feeling down in the mouth (boom-tschhh!)

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Metal Mickey | 5 May 2010 - 9:34am

Just yesterday

I had a conversation about how there was a dentist who appears to spend a lot of time in this here blog and I wondered if he had a waiting room full of extremely pissed off toothache sufferers. Now I know. This is just the kind of thing that is sending this once great nation to hell in a handcart. Oh well, back to work. Now, where was I?

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Fazackerly | 16 April 2010 - 9:20am

Your estate agent is probably earning less than you think

if they work for a corporate company. If their name is on the letterhead it may well be better. But otherwise, think lower end of retail.

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Cornwall Guy | 16 April 2010 - 1:07am

"Let's split the difference"

Used by estate agents, car salesmen etc.

You want to pay X amount.
They want you to pay X + 20%

After a brief silence, they may say - "tell you what, I'm prepared to split the difference to X + 10%, fair enough?" (gestures to shake hands).

That is a reasonable-sounding way to agree a price and many people will do so because disagreeing makes them appear to be unreasonable.

However, they have framed the perameters of reasonableness, not you.

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Austin | 16 April 2010 - 2:38am

And the bottom line

is that if he can sell your house for the full asking price of, say, £200k on a 1.5% commission he gets £3,000. If he can persuade you to accept an offer of £185,000 then you're down £15k but he's only down £225 because he's going to collect £2,775.

So if you reject the offer and badger him to do more work to sell it at the top price, he's got to work hard and advertise more for an extra couple of hundred quid. Ask yourself whether he's working for you or whether he's more interested in finding a buyer who will generate him some revenue.

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Mark JF | 16 April 2010 - 8:04am

I used this logic with Mrs Mickey for our last house move

Our estate agent was pressurising us to take a reduced offer, the FPO was panicking, but on demonstrating how little the cut would affect the agent's commission, she was happy to reject, make him work harder, and it all came out OK.

That's why you should never say to your estate agent, "OK, between you and me, we'll ask for X but will accept Y", as all they'll hear is the Y number (unless you're happy with Y of course!)

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Metal Mickey | 16 April 2010 - 8:28am

My point was that...

he isn't going to get £3000 if he works for a corporate estate agent. He is more likely to get £165 or half that if a colleague brought the house to the market.

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Cornwall Guy | 16 April 2010 - 4:39pm

He will have targets, though

He will be expected to bring in X amount over a year/half-year/quarter to qualify for a bonus etc. There is nothing wrong with that - that's business. So the corporate agent too will be relatively happy with 2,700 rather than 3,000, even though the vendor has settled for thousands less themselves.

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Austin | 16 April 2010 - 9:41pm

Preparation H anyone?

A photographer told me that models (or at least their make-up artists) use haemorrhoid cream to get rid of puffy eyes.

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Brookster | 16 April 2010 - 9:03am

toothpaste

Was supposedly used at skinflick shoots, in pre-Viagra days, in order to stop loss of (shall we say) erectile splendour at crucial moments. No information is available as to choice of flavour but one would imagine probably not menthol.

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PhilC | 16 April 2010 - 2:26pm

Vicks Chloraseptic?

I believe the local anaesthetic action of Vicks Chloraseptic throat spray has some helpful properties in this area.
Same properties as some authorities attribute to cocaine.

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KingTim | 16 April 2010 - 4:32pm

It's good for

quiffs, too

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IanP | 17 April 2010 - 7:31pm

One for the teenagers

Nookie Bear doesn't actually support Crystal Palace.
Roger de Courcey just said he was a Palace fan for the inherent comedic value.
Indeed when he isn't attached to Roger's right arm, Nookie likes nothing better than cheering on Dagenham & Redbridge.

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ranger | 16 April 2010 - 9:37am

Are Palace "inherently comic"

as a displaced Northerner living in London for almost 20 years I'm still amused by the natives local football rivalries as they are all clearly rubbish. But I've never seen Palace as a "comedy" team just your average run of the mill team with the odd glory year in the past. A comedy team would be Spurs possibly for pretending to be contenders every season or Chelsea just in general. Of course real comedy teams are the likes of Leeds and any team from Sheffield.

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Chris G | 16 April 2010 - 10:09am

Oh yeah?

Try saying Accrington Stanley without doing it the voice of the scouse child from the milk advert.

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Beany | 16 April 2010 - 11:41am

Trainspotting...

Palace are derided by other South London football teams as "Nigels", but I think this is wearing off. Don't forget that they were hilariously entitled "The Team of the Eighties", whereas in retrospect of course, perhaps Liverpool were slightly more deserving. Living in the Norwood area, I have learnt that Palace fans take themselves very seriously indeed.

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Richie B | 16 April 2010 - 11:41am

It is complicated

here's my reading of the state of play
Arsenal hate Spurs (but hate Man U more)
Spurs hate Arsenal and West Ham
Everyone's scared of Millwall who have a cross river thing with West Ham and don't care for Palace much either
QPR,Fulham and Brentford don't get on (but who know's what goes on in west london it's a strange place).
Nobody is that fussed about Charlton
Palace bizarrely are sworn enemies of Brighton.
All of football hates Chelsea

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Chris G | 16 April 2010 - 2:06pm

Just about covers it...

...except my experience of living in Greenwich for five years means I can add the following...

Charlton/Millwall can be a bit tasty.

The Millwall/West Ham thing stems from a dockyard strike many moons ago.

Millwall fans used to go to Fisher to throw coins at non-league players if they weren't playing at home.

And Fulham really hate Chelsea.

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Richie B | 16 April 2010 - 2:50pm

Dockyard Strike

The dockyard strike story is total myth. It has various versions but usually has it in the General trike Millwall supporters carried on working! Hence the term General Strike I suppose. Also - what, they ALL went to work because they supported Millwall? Believe me these two clubs don't need any bogus history to just LOATHE each other.

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Gooseboot | 16 April 2010 - 6:49pm

I've also heard a rumour

that it's not a real bear.

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ChaosandMorphine | 17 April 2010 - 6:45am

Mobile phones

The reason you can't use your mobile on aeroplanes has nothing to do with the safety of the plane.When you are 40 000 feet in the air your phone signal will be received by many, many cell towers, rather than the one or two when you are on the ground. With numerous people in the air at any time, this would be a huge load on the cell network.

A related, and slightly more obvious fact: the reason they ask you to turn off all electronic equipment during take-off and landing has nothing to do with the navigation suystems on the plane. They don't want you to be distracted during the two times you are most likely to be involved in an incident and need to follow instructions.

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Podicle | 16 April 2010 - 11:28am

Similar in hospitals

'Please turn off your mobile phone' signs which say they will interfere with sensitive equipment are not true. I have worked for various equipment manufacturers for years and can report that all their engineers leave their phones on, as indeed do doctors (who, incidentally, have probably not read your notes).

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logan | 16 April 2010 - 3:04pm

Roughly the same...

...thing applies to the ban on using mobile phones in petrol stations.

Many years ago, when mobile phones had enormous batteries, it might just have been possible for them to create enough of a spark to ignite petrol vapour. Now the risk is non-existent, but they've kept the ban because they don't want dickheads yammering away on their mobiles while messing around with highly flammable liquids.

Apparently, much the most common cause of fires in petrol stations is motorists driving onto the forecourt with their car already on fire.

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Inky Fingers | 16 April 2010 - 10:04pm

Only in America

This was another one dealt with by Mythbusters. The most likely reason for fire is indeed a mobile phone, but it's a mobile retrieved from the car while you're filling up. It works like this... you get out of your car and naturally touch something to ground/discharge yourself before safely shoving the nozzle into the tank. You click the little thingy that allows you to leave your car filling up unattended when your phone rings. You reach into the car to get it and charge yourself up again. This time you don't discharge yourself until you next grab the nozzle again and that's a bad time and place to cause a spark! Of course, none of this applies in he UK because the nozzles don't have that little thingy to allow you to fill up unattended!

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JohnW | 2 May 2010 - 2:26am

Blind Date

I worked at LWT for a while in the 1980s and when the couple chose the envelope at the end of Blind Date that would determine the exotic location where they would be going on their holiday it was not really a choice at all. The cards inside were all the same. After all, you couldn't leave flights, crew bookings and hotels to the last minute and some drongo's shaky hand could you? Cilla acted surprised though...

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Gooseboot | 16 April 2010 - 6:56pm

Everybody on this message board

Is an actor employed by Development Hell.

Except for you. Yes, YOU.

You are the subject of a Truman Show style social media experiment.

You must escape. NOW.

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Nick | 17 April 2010 - 5:40am

Two things

The brace position you are shown in case of a plane crash is not to save your life but to protect your teeth so your body can be identified by dental records.

and...

Toliet Duck contains hardly any duck at all.

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Neil Dyson | 17 April 2010 - 8:25am
Paolo Meccano | 17 April 2010 - 10:06am

What absolute rubbish....

...didn't mention Toilet Duck once!

Oh, and by the way, Natasha Kaplinski is 6 foot 2 inch tall.

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Neil Dyson | 17 April 2010 - 10:31am

Try Peking Toilet Duck...

it's delicious.

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Patrick Crowther | 17 April 2010 - 10:36am

You know those oxygen masks

on an airplane that drop down when there's cabin depressurization? they only last for 10 minutes. If the pilot can't get you down below 8000 feet in 5 minutes you're fucked. Mind you, the pilot's got about an hours worth. Me brother told me that, and he's a pilot. or maybe he was trying to screw me up. as usual.

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chabsy | 18 April 2010 - 3:06am

Footballers

Writhing around on the floor in agony are never hurt. When they are really hurt they lie there very still.

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Twangothan | 17 April 2010 - 1:24pm

to be fair ...

... and speaking as an ex rubbish intra-mural footballer at uni then a casual footballer until i was around 30 or so, the writhing depends on the injury

slide in for a tackle, miss, then have the left back's knee connect with your head and you just lie inert in frosty grass thinking "ow ow ow ow ow" ... charge along the wing, then try and turn inside the defender, catch your studs on the grass, twist your knee and come very close to snapping your anterior cruciate (the Gazza injury) and you roll around screaming thinking that you're about to spew because of the pain ...

if John Terry catches you late, twice, and he gets sent off, you just giggle of course

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Glenbervie | 17 April 2010 - 8:21pm

The buttons

on Keith Michell's costumes for the 1970 BBC TV series "The Six Wives Of Henry VIII" were made from Rowntrees Fruit Gums.

Never order fish in a restaurant on a Monday.

Restauranteurs will often swill a cardomom seed around a cup of instant coffee to make it taste "fresher" than it really is.

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Pax Romana | 18 April 2010 - 4:08am

Restaurant fish..

Dover sole is so popular in the restaurant trade because it is one of the few fish which improves with age (up to a point..)

Spanking-fresh dover sole is pretty tasteless. Keep it for a few days and the flavour delvelops. Unlike most other fish which goes off very rapidly.

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Lenny Law | 18 April 2010 - 9:16pm

It's cruel world

that we live in

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uproar13 | 18 April 2010 - 9:11pm

Cartographers...

...like to sign their work.

Take a look at the Ordnance Survey Landranger (1:50000) map of the Isle of Wight. Down at the southern tip of the island is St Catherine's Point. About a mile up the coast to the north-west, just above the word Blackgang, is a cliff. Written in the cliff markings is the word 'Bill'.

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Inky Fingers | 19 April 2010 - 8:38pm

Talking of Ordnance Survey maps...

... they all have small but deliberate mistakes in them, so they can tell (and prove) if anyone copies them without permission.

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Metal Mickey | 20 April 2010 - 7:49am
stimpy | 20 April 2010 - 9:12am

It was acceptable in the 80s...

During the first home computers boom, I worked in a well known high street electronics chain. Lets call it Dockgreens, for the sake of argument.

In the final trading hours of Christmas Eve, in a desperate attempt to make pre-Christmas target, it was said that some unscrupulous sales staff were known to re-sell faulty Commodore 64s and the like as new to unsuspecting consumers, knowing that the item would not be returned until after the deadline had been passed, thereby not affecting their loadsamoney bonuses. Shocking, just shocking.

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DougieJ | 20 April 2010 - 11:05pm

Football referees refer to Neil Warnock as 'Colin'

Clue: think of his full name as an anagram

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Handsome.P.Wonderful | 21 April 2010 - 5:03pm

Trust me on this

It's not just because of the anagram!

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Neil Dyson | 22 April 2010 - 10:34am

dont get it

need another clue....how many words

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Sid Williams | 24 April 2010 - 7:02pm

Think of it this way...

take "Neil Warnock" and then take away the letters c o l i n, then solve the anagram from the remaining 6 letters.

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Hannah | 24 April 2010 - 7:20pm

thanks Hannah

I'm guessing it's not Newark.

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Sid Williams | 25 April 2010 - 10:04am

I remember the genuine edition of Countdown

where those letters came up, together with an H and an S. One contestant said he'd managed to find a word with 7 letters: there was a palpable sense of relief in Richard's voice when the contestant announced his word "hawkers".

Perhaps there's an uncontroversial trade secret in there somewhere: do they edit the possible combinations of letters? And what about car number plates? Does someone have to go through all the rude permutations?

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Douglas | 25 April 2010 - 11:19am

There is a Countdown outtake I have seen

Where both contestants come up with WANKERS as their longest word. Richard Whiteley's darting eyes and clear discomfort are a joy to behold, as is the tittering audience. Yet the best moment is when the second contestant, having come up with the same word, shrugs and says "looks like we're a pair of wankers". Off-camera a voice says "No!" and Carol Vorderman laughs like a drain.

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Austin | 25 April 2010 - 10:42pm

I suppose...

...somebody must go through the possible combinations of number plate letters to avoid anyone driving around with a car labelled BUM, for example.

How effective this is depends on the extent of that person's vocabulary. Round here, there was a number plate, even used on police cars, reading FUD.

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Inky Fingers | 2 May 2010 - 8:19am

IIRR

the DVLA refused to issue any plates with 666 in the numerals.

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Dr.Pill | 2 May 2010 - 10:23am

True story

I bought a new Opel Monza in the early 80s that had 666 in the registration number. My dear old mum warned me that it would be bad luck and I, of course, scoffed at her.

Less than a month later, driving back down a foggy A3 from a gig at the Hammersmith Odeon, I was involved in a multi-car pileup and totalled the car, ending up (albeit briefly) in hospital myself.

To her credit, my dear old mum didn't give me a huge "I told you so" but I *knew* what she was thinking.

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stimpy | 2 May 2010 - 11:27am

I saw a car with a BUM plate the other day.

Most impressed, I was.

I want one.

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Lenny Law | 2 May 2010 - 8:59pm

Motorcycle racer Steve Parrish had PEN15

and, I gather, Sir Clifford of Richard has MOV 1T

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stimpy | 2 May 2010 - 10:24pm

"Mmmm ...

... this is fun!"

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Douglas | 9 May 2010 - 4:53pm

"Upscale" burger joints...

usually have chili con carne on the menu, because they've found it to be the optimal solution for all your getting-rid-of-stinking-to-high-heaven-burger-mince needs.

Spice liberally (bayleaf-a-go-go performs best at masking the smell, researchers have found) and serve.

Yum, and indeed, mee. (Yes, I was once that chef.)

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Archie Valparaiso | 22 April 2010 - 9:57am

Someone further up..

Made the point about restaurant food tasting better because of the hellacious amounts of butter, cream and salt they add during cooking. One of the reasons restaurant steaks taste nicer relates to Archie's comments above.

Basically, they're pretty much going off when cooked. When I worked in a butchery as a Saturday job, the butchers would only take home a steak for their own consumption when it was very dark, had a greenish sheen on the surface and smelled a bit funny. They would trim off the obvious manky bits on the exterior and have it screamingly rare. The ageing tenderises the beef and adds flavour. Don't try this with mince, though, or if you do, cook it very well.

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Lenny Law | 25 April 2010 - 10:56pm

Good steak always benefits from being aged for a couple of weeks

Didn't Sainsbury start selling 'Jamie Oliver apporved 28-day aged steak' a couple of years back and pull it fairly quickly once it became apparent that it wasn't going to be a big seller?

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stimpy | 26 April 2010 - 12:59pm

Lots of supermarkets are coming round to it.

Th realisation that bright red meat isn't ready. In the states, they make a huge palaver about dry-ageing their beef. It would be even better if they made the effort to let the steers roam around fields and eat grass rather than jamming them into feedlots in Chicago and stuffing them with maize.

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Lenny Law | 26 April 2010 - 10:45pm

Thanks to this thread

I just had to have steak for supper.

Mmmmmmmmmm, delicious rare steak.

*growl*

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Hannah | 26 April 2010 - 11:31pm

Anthony Worral Thompson's

restaurants (Notting Grill, Barnes Grill etc.) made a big song and dance about ageing meat. And I rather liked them. However, for Recession-related reasons, he had to close them down. Certainly game needs to be well-hung before it's cooked (hem, hem).

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Rufus T Firefly | 26 April 2010 - 1:26pm
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