Entertainment For Lively Minds
Kate Mossman joins the pod to talk about album reviews - and tell a terrifying true story
Posted by David Hepworth on 9 March 2009 - 12:06pm.
In an effort to brighten up as much of your week as possible we're bringing you the weekly podcast bright and early on Monday morning. Kate Mossman talks to Mark Ellen and David Hepworth about the challenges of organising a reviews section and we look at what various magazines of yore said about classic albums at the time. Plus Kate talks about her trip to Portland, Oregon to talk to the Decemberists and tells a really scary story about what happened to somebody in the snow. You can subscribe to the podcasts here or stream the latest one below.










The Ellen Filter (Pat Pending)
Regular viewers cannot have failed to notice that each time Kate Mossman appears before us with her dainty thoughts and wisdom, some fellow seems to feel obliged to heave into view, determined to share the spotlight.
As a result of months of research and testing, I have devised what we scientists are now calling, "The Ellen Filter".
This split screen technique was discovered by using the very latest in cardboard technology, and will be on sale in all leading Woolworth stores within the next week.
Retailing at £19.99, and with a free 'Ulsterspeak translator' included, this will be an essential part of your podcast/website/twitter/facebook/magazine/LastFm experience.
Someone else in the picture? Not an 80s punk band.
Scanned the picture several times and not noticed anyone else.
Perhaps I'm just too disappointed because I misheard David Hepworth saying Kate had gone to Portland to interview The Descendents, only to discover the band is actually the Decemberists...
I invested in a proprietary add-on...
that turns the Blue Shirt of Death™ a different, randomly generated, colour. Today, for example, it was a striking paisley pattern in leaf green and egg-yolk yellow, which was nicely set off by Mossman's geranium red to create a rather satisfying Rastafari effect.
By the way, where can I get one of those figurines of Amy Winehouse doing her trademark "Please Miss Can I Go To The Toilet?" hem-tugging dance? Was it perhaps a promotional item that the Word office was once given with a view to encouraging a favourable review?
In defence of Barry Gray
Dear Mr Ellen, far from being just the composer of Torchy the Battery Boy here's a great example of his work from the 1960's series 'UFO'. Your Art Director is obviously a man of impeccable taste!
other stuff
Didnt he do "Thunderbirds" aswell? Maybe all of the Gerry Anderson stuff?
As far as "crushes" go (see below)i had the biggest one imaginable on Gabrielle Drake.Purple wig and all..Nick's sister,of course.
Leitmotifs
He certainly did-see
for a big-band treatment ...
Delighted to see this at Wikipedia:
"Gray's music is characterised by the use of brass and percussion sections, and made extensive use of leitmotifs, for example themes for the individual machines in Thunderbirds or the eponymous title character in Joe 90, who was accompanied onscreen by a wordless representation of the character's name. The ensembles required for Gray's scoring in series such as Thunderbirds and Stingray dwarfed those of most contemporary television shows; even the orchestra employed for the first supermarionation series, Supercar, comprised some forty instrumentalists."
which I guess allows the pub-quiz question, "what does Thunderbirds have in common with Wagner ...? "
Review cliches
I'm getting very bored of the following two, both of which were regularly employed in reviews of the last Springsteen album:
1. "Phil Spector wall of sound" as a shortcut to describe anything vaguely upbeat with lots of instruments.
2. "Beach Boys harmonies" to describe anything with, well, harmonies.
Warning: either of the above may be used in tandem with what your friendly neighbourhood reviewer may refer to as "catchy (or infectious) hooks". These people must be stopped at all costs.
"perfect pop"
Over-used, and nearly always refers to something that actually isn't perfect pop at all - more likely something indie with jangling guitars & feedback, rather than hook-laden, massively catchy, highly produced music for the mass-market.
"Cerebral"
Extremely over-used recently. Reads "what I am reviewing is clever, and so am I!".
Apologies if this appears in the podcast, just downloading it now...
Post-bop...
... bloody annoying, virtually meaningless term that litters jazz reviews.
Almost forgot
"Widescreen" being used to describe epic, cinematic songs.
Good one
Totally ill-fitting too, you can watch any old tosh in widescreen if you want.
Sorry, but...
* a free copy of the new CD from Delta Spirit, described within The Word as "widescreen Americana, rootsy and soulful, with a driving R&B undertow straight out of 1970".
I think I have a crush on
I think I have a crush on Kate. I hope I won´t be tracked down and shot, because I mean no harm. I like long walks and deep philosophic discussions based on the writings of Kirkegaard.
Hey!
back of the queue, mate, and take your neo-orthodoxism with you.
Well botlblonds, if that´s your real name
Sorry sir, but being that I wrote my comment when you were still in diapers I like to think that the queue starts right here. Cheers.
Forgive me
my feeble attempt at humour. I intrude, I apologise, I withdraw.
Don´t worry
You are forgiven. I´m almost as forgiving as Jesus, altough I don´t seem able to grow a beard. But I like sandals.
The Mossman Prophecy
I'm far to old to be admitting such a thing but so do I.
Is it just me or does the fact that she swears on the podcast add that extra something.......
Can we all threaten to unsubscribe unless she appears more regularly on the podcast?
Coming soon to a cinema near you
A summer 2010 release has been slated for Am I Imagining Things Or Did She Just Say Shite? - the working title of the new Richard Curtis-penned feelgood film currently being shot on location in Islington.
Although details of the storyline are still sketchy, the plot hinges on the desperate efforts of a young music journalist (Keira Knightley) to get her career back on track after she finds herself ensnared by a bizarre cabal of crusty old hacks.
Expect much mirth as she perplexes her editor (Stephen Fry) and publisher (Peter Sallis) by being the first person they have ever come into professional contact with who can drink them under the table while reciting the full lyrics of "I Want To Break Free".
You are....
Nicky Wire and I claim my £5
Anorak Corner
Love those pop shields
Revolution by the bed
I think Noel G may have come up with that brilliant pun before me, or something similar. I too keep a copy of Ian MacDonald's masterwork to hand on my bedside cabinet (Argos self-assembly - a drawer tends to come apart on a regular basis, must fix with wood glue) just in case that terrible moment occurs where I have just finished one novel and there are no more new books in the house as I failed to visit the library in time. I often dip in to it while waiting for the bathroom to become free, re-reading accounts of Timothy Leary and The Tibetan Book Of The Dead and how The Beatles changed the world forever. It is certainly a comfort thing.
'English Passengers' is a great read. Rather more challenging though, as modern fiction, is Laszlo Krasznahorkai's 'War & War', which comprises chapters of prose without punctuation, each one made of a vast, continuous sentence. You do need an alternative book to take a break with for that one. Though I thought it worth the work.
In a similar way to 'Revolution In The Head' I have a tatty old paperback 'NME Encyclopedia Of Rock' from 1978 I regularly go back to. It is extremely well written, and I think of it as an old friend. I once foolishly thought to attempt to keep it up to date by adding new acts from 1979, like Spizz Energi, which was a hopeless task, not helped by the fact that Spizz regularly changed their name, soon to become Athletico Spizz '80. Still, talking of reviews, interesting to note that the encyclopedia refers to Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here as being released to 'marked critical disappointment' whereas 'they returned themselves to favour with the far more positive Animals in 1977'. Not really the view held today. There's more of that kind of thing in there. Lavishly illustated, it rather strangely chooses to feature a frontispiece showing Roger Daltrey as a centaur from the cover of his album 'Ride A Rock Horse'. Not an image you would choose to give prominence in a rock encyclopedia now.
review of chinese democracy + sleeve notes
Best up-sum of the reviews of "Chinese Democracy" was the opening of Charlie Brooker's 2008 review Screenwipe..Charlie's voiceover.."The year will chiefly be remembered for three things,the election of Barack Obama, the implosion of the Global economy,and of course the release of "Guns N Roses"'Chinese Democracy" a bloke kicks back on a sofa with his i-pod,clicking and looking at it in disbelief and WTF? anger and incomprehension.
re "reviews" sounds like none of the podders present heard "sleeve Notes" http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00htmzr by Laura Barton.'twas on this saturday morning R4.Largely bemoaning the near eradication of the "sleeve note",as the "copy" got shrunk to impossibly eye-squintingly small size on the cd case. the shrink-wrapped CD with it's inner booklet,also putting the said "copy" out of reach of the browsing punter anyway.
Without wishing to sound like a creep...
I'd like to say I thoroughly enjoyed that podcast - I think it was the best yet. It made me want to quit my job and bang on the front door of Word Towers until you agreed to let me in and give me some sort of employment (I make a mean cuppa).
With regards to reviews, I think the rise of the Internet and, in particular, Wikipedia, has a large part to play. I would say that with a bit of research, it's possible to write a review of an artist and include the biography and review of previous work without having actually heard a note from their previous albums. In the world of amateur reviewing, people don't have access to every album going, so if I'm given the new Decemberists album to review, for example, and I haven't heard their previous work, do I go out and buy their back catalogue myself or do I do some research and write something a bit more non-committal?
Incidentally, I do write reviews and have do write 300 words on the new Prodigy album this week; I'll do my best to include the phrase "uncompromising doo-wop harmonies".
Cracking podcast
I may even listen to this one again.
excellent podcast this week.
Can I add a Cliche to be put out to grass (!) , In your book section we had the inclusion of the deathly phrase "powerful meditation on...". Which I think is short hand for if the books about "a Family" incest or if its about politics "corruption & incest". It's a hopeless phrase as isn't meditation a wordless consideration of a subject or in some beliefs a clearing of the mind to pass beyond things like family and politics.
When it comes down to it "powerful meditation" means it's a thick dense book with few laughs that is strangely unenlightening if you can be bothered to get to the end.
Obsessive recidivism
I’ve used the expression ‘sun-dappled’ to describe a Saint Etienne song. In my defence I was not informed that it had joined “like _____ on acid” and “impossibly beautiful” on the reviewers blacklist. I think there should be a grace period in which amateur scribes, working in print fanzines and on the internet, are allowed limited usage of professional critics’ cast-off descriptive shorthand.
Like a lot of the regulars on this site, I’ve had a go at writing reviews for the WORD online music store. These short pieces of journalism are made to look very easy by the witty and urbane stable of in-house and freelance staff employed by the magazine. Anyone who has ever attempted to write one will know that trying to articulate the contents of an album in 100 words or less is actually very difficult. I usually end up with something three times over the word limit and strewn with random punctuation. There follows a tedious editorial process, in which I drag ponderous, run-on sentences around a word document, wondering which in a string of blurted-out hyperboles I can possibly dispense with.
My big music obsession, unlikely to ever be matched again in my lifetime, was with a spoken word album called Prison, which the poet Steven Jesse Bernstein recorded shortly before committing suicide. It spoke to me in a way that no other album has, before or since. Bernstein’s voice was like the cowed whine of a dog that had been beaten its entire life and was about to be brutally put down. Decades of pent-up rage, bile and self-hatred spilled out of him. Moments of unintended slapstick were like watching a man who had justifiably reached the end of his tether, attempting to storm out of a room with the last of his dignity, only to find himself struggling to open the door.
I was fascinated by Prison. For many years I listened to it practically everyday, usually first thing after I got up. I am convinced that it did me lasting psychological damage.
I have no desire to return to Bernstein’s final recorded words. The album was such an integral part of my life that re-listening to it would be like revisiting the person that I was back then.
Recently I did go back to another album from my youth - Bloodletting by Concrete Blonde. It’s a record whose every note, every drumbeat and vocal nuance, I have committed to memory. The reason I hardly ever play it is that there seems to be little point. A few weeks ago I overcame my cynicism and put it on. It was great. The impression that music leaves on you is never as good as the reality of hearing it.
That'll be "Miss Mossman" to you, young man
I think you'll find "Ms" didn't become common currency until well into the Seventies; in 1964 it still meant "manuscript". (Christ, am I really that old?)
Minor quibbles apart, this is indeed a sterling effort from Mr Seven - as we have only come to expect from this eminent Essex-based electrical diarist. It is with a great sense of anticipation that we await his every outing.
Great minds and all that
and to echo your comments re B7, it is surely only the consistently high quality of his contributions that makes an aberration such as the one highlighted to be worthy of comment.
Ms? In 1964?
I am sure in those gentler times the young lady would have been a 'Miss', irrespective of her actual marital status or, indeed, her own personal preference.
I will be stepping down...
...as treasurer of the Southend-on-Sea Grammarian Society. I do so in the hope that my basic schoolboy error will not be allowed to reflect upon the good people of my home town, whose pronunciation and use of the Queen's English is among the finest in the British Empire.
I also failed to take into account that, up until 1977, the Melody Maker was written in Latin. For this historical oversight I offer my sincerest apologies.
Exemplary use...
of the definite article before "Melody Maker" there. The boy's larnin'.
He is, but
That 'up until' will get some tuts from the back row of the GramSoc.
I am another
who finds a new piece by the Essex scallywag, Mr Seven, a great joy.
He has the air of a fellow who has both seen life, and is still discovering it.
On the subject of album reviews
Not being averse to foisting my opinion on the rest of the world via the review feature on amazon I usually try and stick (but often fail) to three simple rules which work when I read a review.
1. "Fans of x or y should enjoy this". This is especially useful for lesser known acts as it gives a (very) rough idea of the sound/sentiments expressed therein
2. "This follows similar lines/is a departure from, previous albums like l or m" more pertinent to longer established acts and again can give us a rough idea of what it sounds like. Whilst agreeing that albums should be reviewed solely on their merits it is pointless to ignore previous output. having said that albums deemed "poor" compared to previous output may still be "good" compared to prevalent trends at the time of release. This should also be reflected in any review.
3. What has the individual reviewer previously liked and/or disliked both by this artist and by others.
There is no point in adverts for albums saying " Q - 4* review" or "The best album ever - The Word" Magazines don't review albums, people do so it is helpful to see where individual reviewers are coming from.
On top of all this, whilst I don't agree with the "star" system per se, it can help when comparing reviews by individuals as mentioned above.
P.S I am all in favour of the three month in review, perhaps it should be a feature of the mag or maybe the e mail newsletter.
Cheers
Excellent
That was certainly one of the best podcasts yet.
I'm not missing that bloke (Matt Hall?) who used to say "yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah" all the time.
Wasn't that. . .
Mark Ellen, cranking up to speed before saying "Yellow Submarine"?
I liked him
and his tales of going to live in the countryside. Who twiddles the knobs these days ?
I have an overwhelming urge
to send Matt a link to the 'yeah, yeah, yeah' comment. However, I also miss his cheery 'off mike' contributions.
Fraser is more taciturn, and does less twiddling. In addition he allows the placement of microphone stands in sugar bowls. This is rather outré.
Enjoyed Mr Hall's Imput
I always enjoyed Matt Hall's imput into the Podcast, it would be nice if he still appeared as an occasional guest. I'm more than happy with the way your line-up rotates from week-to-week though.
You fickle lot!
Honestly, the glimpse of a well turned ankle accompanied by language that would make a docker blush, and you're all acting like 14 year old school boys. Were it not perfectly understandable it would be pathetic.
PS - Listening to podcast while reading this, and la Mossman has just said 'yeah, yeah, yeah.' Around ten minutes in. She's bit my style. Not that I'm feeling spurned, or owt.
Something about
a lady with a working mans mouth.
Mr Lewry not twiddles the knobs I believe?
Mind Your Language
It was indeed a marvellous podcast but the language, ooh I say, please cut it out people. I was going to send a stiff e-mail of complaint but decided to send this one instead.
Reviewers only lisen to a new album once or twice...
... and we're meant to be depending on these guys for guidance!
P.S Enjoyable podcast yet again.
Near miss
I was out posting a birthday card earlier this afternoon. To accompany me on my walk I thought I'd take along my iPod to listen to the latest mutterings from Messers Hepworth and Ellen along with Ms Mossman.
On returning from the post box I have to cross a wide and busy road with a 40mph speed limit. While crossing the road - which I did in a bit of a stupid place, I'll admit - a car came haring round the corner. I had to run to get out of it's way. "Phew" I thought to myself "I could have died there". It was only then that the thought occured to me that the last sound I would have heard in my final deathly moments would have been a Mark Ellen anecdote.
I don't know whether that would have been a comfort or not...
The Springsteen stereo story ...
made me feel that Stanley Kubrick's desire to control every aspect of his films' screenings didn't seem so mad ...
Firm shoeings
I well recall Word's own David Quantick delivering the boot to the Flaming Lips' "Soft Bulletin" in Q Magazine with two desultory stars. This review arrived just before the critical consensus was in and, although I liked that record, it was nice to read something uncoloured by expectation. And David's reviews are usually funny.
The most overused cliché applied in reviews is the following formula: [ALBUM X] by [OBSCURE ARTIST A] is like [WELL KNOWN ARTIST B] and [WELL KNOWN ARTIST C] "bouncing on a bed together"/"assaulting the north face of the Eiger together"/"riding a flying horse into the sun together"/other unwieldy simile. Whenever I see this device, I want to cry.
Having read tens of thousands of album reviews I am wordblind to blank criticism, all I want to know is: is it good? You might as well go for a Danny Baker-style tour de force of language in the 148 words you have left and make the world a little brighter.
PS More K-Mo in the pod!
Re: K-Mo
Seconded!
Reviews-irk
My irk with album reviews is when you will read the same points wherever the review appears. Presumably an artist-biog or a press release stating something that is already known by the fans of the artist or irrelevant to people new to the artist.
EGs
Morrissey's last album - recorded in Rome where he now lives.
All Charlatans album reviews mention comebacks from band tragedies.
Mercury Rev mentions of Catskill Mountains.
etc