it's a bit silly, and I like the fact she's all made up and looking a bit 80s.
And Billybob Dylan, if that's your definition of 'Chubby' you need to fix the screen resolution on your monitor, load an image of Posh Spice to calibrate it properly.
Anyway, I didn't say Kate was chubby. Kate looks great. I said she looks a bit like a chubby Siouxsie. Look at those eyes! It's Creatures-era Siouxsie! And Siouxsie was in those days, well, scrawny, and the photo looked to me, at first glance, like a jowly Siouxsie.
It's just like describing myself as a slightly leaner Nick Frost.
I was just making a lame joke about Chubby Checking.
If the word chubby appears anywhere on the Word site I leap into action, like some kind of spambot.
Although spam's a bit fatty, so I must be a leanmeatbot.
Can't be 100% sure, but is it alternating the covers of the two albums that are being partly re-recorded/'revisited' on the 'Director's Cut' record? 'Sensual World' and 'Red Shoes', I think - one really looks like a head and shoulders photo of KB, the other could be the red ballet shoe in a circle.
To me her music has occasionally been very interesting, but on the whole of the "Hello Clouds, Hello Sky" teen bedroom romantic variety. She is though, undeniably one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.
This combination of occasionally interesting twee and utter gorgeousness is the root of her extraordinary popularity these days. To a generation of men between the ages of 35 and 60 she is an idealised version of that most idealised of woman they will ever meet - their first true love.
She's come to represent all thats most fragrant, mysterious, sexy, and just different in the species known as "women" that you get to know in a huge sensual rush when you cross that line. For most of us in that catchment group she will always be the nymph in the pink T shirt who seems unaware ( and uninterested) that every man in her vicinity is drawn like magnets to her chest line.
On one level I think she always knew that a large part of her popularity rested on this idealised identification of her. It may even have explained her Garboesque retreat from public viewing. Much easier to go with the teenage image then watch the evolving woman.
And now she's gotten old.....
Blue girls come in every size, some are wise and some otherwise.
Sorry Bern, this post really annoys me, in particular this phrase: "On one level I think she always knew that a large part of her popularity rested on this idealised identification of her." This is nonsense from stem to stern. Surely her popularity rests on her brilliance and uniqueness as an artist. She's made some of the most compelling and original music of the last 33 years, and done it on her own terms. She's been an innovator in more ways than one, incorporating disparate folks musics from around the world into the very fabric of her songwriting as well as on the recordings of those songs; pioneering the use of the Fairlight; making highly idiosyncratic videos; and doing a tour which was, from all accounts, as much of a one-off as she is.
As for "Hello clouds, hello sky", that's just laughable. Perhaps you haven't paid that much attention to her songs. As DogFacedBoy points out below, from the word go her songs touched on subject matter darker than many who affect to dabble in the Dark Side. Lest we forget, the title song of her first album is about a girl who, having been impregnated by her brother, is about to kill herself. Twee enough? How about Army Dreamers? Breathing? The Morning Fog?
Is Kate Bush beautiful? Yes, of course she is. But so was Wendy James, absolutely stunning. And nobody gives a tinker's cuss about her music now. I think there's a reason for that.
And not to these ears I'm afraid. She's always had a huge critical "Free pass" due to her looks to my mind. She's been good, but no more than,say, David Sylvian. Only diffo being Sylvian isn't as good looking as her (Well, not now anyway...)
I think she's brilliant. One of the most influential artists ever and a fantastic songwriter. The fact that she's not bunging out album after album speaks volumes about her.
Sorry, but that is about the daftest post I have ever read (and that includes the piffle I normally write). David Sylvian, not fit to pluck her eyebrows.
'Breathing' for example from the viewpoint of an unborn child as a nuclear war occurs.
We've lost our chance
we're the first and last
After the blast
Chips of Plutonium
Are twinkling in every lung.
Not exactly lightweight. As an attractive woman she used her looks to further he career. When asked about those famous leotard shots she bristled at the idea that they were somehow forced upon her.
A woman can use her attractiveness as can yer average boyband bozo. Accept that in Kate's case there is so much more substance. Not just a pretty face and all that
And it sounds as if your gathering in the saloon as I type. But it won't change my mind. In mitigation a couple of things I should say..
1) I've got every album she's ever produced.
2) Some of them are exceedingly good.
3) I am in no way a strenuous critic of her work
It's interesting and enjoyable in parts, but so is the work of any number of her contemparies - Gary Numan, Midge Ure, Souxsie etc. But then so are UB40.I just don't buy her as some major musical force.
In many ways she parallels the Clash - a lot of middle aged men in opinion forming environments lionise them as some sort of legendary "rebels" (when they were nothing of the sort...) cos they represented that to their teenage selves. I think Kate has the same sort of position for different reasons.
Christ on a bike! No wonder she keeps herself to herself, if the appearance of one new pic can induce such heavy breathing on one hand and disrespect on the other.
I have to say his comments ring major bells with me. I always thought Ms Bush was someone whose music I ought to like more than I actually do.
Chunks of Hounds Of Love and Sensual World are really good (although the best bit on the former is of course Popol Vuh), but I was hugely disappointed by Aeriel - that song about a woman doing her washing? ( (c) Liam Gallagher). And it comes across precisely in the Hello Birds etc fashion, to my ears.
Each to their own of course, but in my view she's good without being great. Sorry.
benefits from a proper listen to the lyrics. There's a sinister subtext which may or may not be about murder and death. I dismissed it at first as well.
That's probably my favourite of her albums and I'm looking forward to hearing the new version, although the original was the soundtrack for many, er, intimate evenings with my ex. Whenever she put a CD on and I heard those church bells ringing I knew what would happen next. Still a great album though, despite the flashbacks I get.
I didn't like "The Red Shoes" at all, apart from "Moments of Pleasure", which was brilliant. As for "Aerial" I gave up - found the first disk very tedious indeed, and the second just didn't grab me at all. I actually don't think I've listened to all of it to be honest.
& her looks are the icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned (& I'm a bird an'all!). One of the many reasons why I've followed & loved her work since I was a teen is her artistic daring & her ongoing interest in dark, taboo subject matter.
Yes, her neck's thickened a bit but she's in her 50's ferchrissakes. I got a buzz from seeing her happy, hamming it up & all dressed up instead of the soft-focus, serious treatment.
It's always great to have her back. National Treasure etc etc.
not sure about her latest project though, since it covers albums which weren't my favourites,maybe I'll give it a go though Not sure it will reach the heights of The Hounds Of Love or Aerial.
The Sensual World is a cracking album but Red Shoes is bobbins so I'm looking forward to seeing what she can salvage from that. Just leave 'This Woman's Work' alone. Ta
The 'Directors Cut' is coming out on her own label 'Fish People'. In conjunction with EMI? I assume she's still with them despite all the upheavals. Maybe its over to Universal now for the reissues
...the original of "Deeper Understanding" was kind of autotuned in the chorus too. Having said that I do think the computer voice in the new version sounds pretty dreadful compared to the original.
I saw the picture in the OP and inwardly scoffed "there she is again, being all mysterious and enigmatic". But then I thought that it is probably impossible for Kate Bush to be anything else.
If it was a straightforward picture of her in the style of, say, Daniel O'Donnell - smiling and stroking a labrador - I would still wonder what it could possibly *mean*...
She's not just a great singer, but a great composer, arranger and producer. Just a piano and a mic would be a huge waste of all that talent (but I'd still be in the front row...)
From what I'm gathering here, Kate's gone back and re-worked her old albums, correct? Not always a good move; she re-recorded ‘Wuthering Heights’ for the Greatest Hits collection, and totally missed one high note on ‘Cathy’, which grates to this day. Sometimes just a polish up of the EQ from the studio masters is all that's needed, otherwise it can be an unmitigated disaster; Jimmy Page being allowed to remaster Zeppelin, for example. He should have just shipped them to Bob Ludwig and had done with it.
Back on topic, while I've got all Kate's albums, several original vinyl bought on day of release, like 'Kick Inside', I'm happy to admit 'The Dreaming' leaves a bit to be desired, and 'Red Shoes' has never worked it's way into my affections, but I really love 'Aerial', especially the second disc, particularly when Kate starts laughing. The girl's got a filthy laugh.
She's got a beautiful house in South Devon, too, but sadly wasn't in last time I called round.
critical hype was expended some time ago in the various media regarding Joanna Newsom. Lyrically very strong, agreed; melodically inventive; vocally accomplished, but however hard I try with 'Have One on Me' after about 20 minutes I'm thinking, put some Kate Bush on and listen to the real thing.
Anyway, I'm with the 'Kate: Genius' school of thought. Hounds of Love is the best album for sheer bravado and accomplishment, though the earlier albums may have been the more influential in the long run. TBH, which other solo singer songstress apart from Joni has had the influence and originality ...? Isn't even L Gaga a bit Kate Bushy?
The Auto-tune is as precisely as horrible as the snippets would suggest. Why in the name of fuck would you replace the Trio Bulgarka with Auto-tune..? I don't care how in keeping with the lyric it is to computerise the chorus, it sounds shite.
Otherwise, obviously redone main vocal and drum track, both perfectly acceptable, but not essential. Doubtless other tweaks too, but they didn't leap out.
Here it is:
EDIT: The above link is not the short mix I heard on R2, but a longer version with a completely different ending and much better for it. The auto-tune/vocoder effect is still horrid though.
This is the wrong time of year to listen to this.Should be October.Is that the over-rated boring Steve Gadd playing his trademark shuffle? he stole it btw (fifty-ways) from the soundtrack to 'The Longest Day'
'I feel complately lost without my little black box' is something a lot of people can relate to. 'I turn to my computer as a friend' etc
But the modem\fax screech is soooo 90's. Katie. You got BT Infinity yeah? The vocal is still strong but the autotune is flippin hideous, like a kids TV show from the 80's version of 'the future'. The new arrangment and rhythm patterns are very 'Ariel' in tone
I'll still buy the album no doubt. But not until after a quick pre-purchase listen
Kate Bush releases her new single, a brand new version of “Deeper Understanding”, on Tuesday April 5. The single is released digitally and had its first play this morning, Monday April 4 on Radio 2. A new short film to accompany the track will be premiered in a few weeks. It’s directed by Kate and stars Robbie Coltrane, Frances Barber and Noel Fielding – and Kate’s son Albert plays the role of the computer programme. He is also featured in the song, singing as the computer programme.
Kate’s new album “Director’s Cut” is released on May 16, the first album to be released on her own label, Fish People, which will be distributed by EMI. The track-listing for the album, which sees her revisit and, in some cases, re-record tracks from two of her classic albums is:
FLOWER OF THE MOUNTAIN (a new version of the song originally titled ‘The Sensual World’)
SONG OF SOLOMON
DEEPER UNDERSTANDING
LILY
RED SHOES
THIS WOMAN’S WORK
MOMENTS OF PLEASURE
NEVER BE MINE
TOP OF THE CITY
AND SO IS LOVE
RUBBERBAND GIRL
Kate says: “Originally when I wrote the song ‘The Sensual World’ I had used text from the end of ‘Ulysses’ by James Joyce, put to a piece of music I had written. When I asked for permission to use the text I was refused, which was disappointing. I then wrote my own lyrics for the song although I felt that the original idea had been more interesting. Well, I’m not James Joyce am I? When I came to work on this project I thought I would ask for permission again and this time they said yes. It is now re-titled ‘Flower Of the Mountain’ and I am delighted that I have had the chance to fulfill the original concept”.
All the lead vocals and drums on “Director’s Cut” are new performances, some of the tracks featuring guests including Steve Gadd, Danny Thompson and, on backing vocals, Mica Paris. Three songs have been completely re-recorded, one of which is “This Woman’s Work”.
Kate adds: “For some time I have felt that I wanted to revisit tracks from these two albums and that they could benefit from having new life breathed into them. Lots of work had gone into the two original albums and now these songs have another layer of work woven into their fabric. I think of this as a new album”.
Kate Bush is currently working on her new album of brand new material.
but according to Amazon there is also a box set release of 3 discs. No indication of the tracks as yet. Anybody have a clue?
Stop press: “Director’s Cut” will be released in the following formats: Digital Album, Standard CD in a case-bound book, Deluxe CD (three disc package, including Director’s Cut, The Sensual World and re-mastered The Red Shoes) in a case-bound book and two-disc vinyl."
was recently given a deluxe vinyl edition by Mobile Fidelity\Steve Hoffman from the masters so I'm guessing the remastering was done then. So maybe its a rights issue thing? although as I understand it the Kick Inside \ Hounds Of Love & TSW are all due deluxe remastered versions this year
Well I am a 40 yr old male and I actually got into Kate Bush quite late just after 'Sensual World' came out and I then got everything from before and since. Sensual World is probably my favourite KB LP so I am a little worried about the new versions but I am looking forward to it as anything new from her is welcome. I loved 'Aerial' - thought it was very atmospheric and very very beautiful in places (the person who mentioned 'the washing machine song' - you are spot on) That track and The Coral Room are awe inspiring. I have only heard the new single once (Deeper Understanding) and yes her son is the new 'computer' and yes his part is completely different to the original but if she had not changed anything we would all moan. Have just seen the track listing and I do worry that nothing coulod improve 'This Woman's Work', 'Top of the City' & 'Moments of Pleasure' but i look forward to listening to how she has tinkered with them. Just glad she has not changed 'Rocket's Tail' which is probably my favourite track ever of hers
Nobody is confusing the two. I suspect the effect being used is either Autotune, or the Melodyne Software which can be used to correct vocal pitch but can also be used to re-tune vocals to whatever notes you enter into it which creates that strangely robotic, alien vocal sound. This was plastered all over George Michael's 'True Faith'. At least on the KB tune it is just used on the chorus and it is deliberately used to create a robotic, computerised sound. It's not being used to artificially 'correct' the vocal, it's being used an effect. The common gripe with Autotune or Melodyne is not that it is 'cheating' or trying to fix vocals, it's just that it is dreadfully hackneyed and over-used effect so for Ms Bush to be using it is a bit of a let down, given that she is renowned for innovation and not following fashion or musical trends.
Sorry Woodface, but have to disagree with you on this one, I'm with Bernkastel-Kues. Not only is David up there with Kate but I'd say that in terms of being an important presence on the musical landscape he went floating past her years ago. I used to adore Kate's music, but Red Shoes was patchy to say the least, Ariel was bloated and dated and the one track I've heard from the new one doesn't inspire me with confidence either. Her muse (whoever/whatever it was) sadly seems to have left her after the wonderful The Sensual World, which was released in 1989. She was a dynamic, thrilling, important artist for eleven years 78-89; unfortunately she's been a largely irrelevant, unengaged and usually inactive one for the last 22 years.
Compare that with Sylvian's constant questing (though admittedly not always successful) musical adventures incorporating a range of styles from hard rock through to the classical avant-garde via dream-pop and electronica/glitch in that time via albums such as Rain Tree Crow, The First Day (with Fripp) Dead Bees on a Cake, Blemish, Nine Horses' Snow Borne Sorrow and the upcoming Died in the Wool, the cover of which reminds us that no-one has eyebrows to match David's!
Although his standing is not always fully appreciated by the UK media, who seem to struggle to get over the image he adopted as a twenty year old, he is thankfully appreciated elsewhere, as highlighted by his being named the Artist in Residence at this year's Punkt Festival in Norway, arguably the world's most intriguing music and arts festival: http://www.davidsylvian.com/news/david_sylvian_is_confirmed_as_artist_in...
And if you want an indication of undeniable musical evolution/questioning over more than thirty years this provides it:
By contrast, Kate sadly got stuck on one sound and has seemed incapable/unwilling to move on which for fans like me is a real pity.
Incidentally, David and Kate were born a few miles from each other - Beckenham/Bexleyheath - and within a few months of each other in 1958 and also used to occasionally hang out together in the late 80s.
and I didn't realise they were the same age and from the same area, I tend to forget Bush started her career so young.
David Sylvian reminds me of Scott Walker, both were Teen idols and both have gone off in directions far beyond 'Top of the Pops' although Scott Walker probably further out than Sylvian.
I think the difference with Kate Bush is that she's still essentially working within the realm of 'grown up' commercial pop music, and she seems comfortable with that. I don't think she's ever had designs on being on the front cover of Wire Magazine, I think she'd much rather be on the front of The Word, Q or Mojo.
Perhaps we can distinguish these two artists by their choice of collaborators.
Shame
She didn't lose the slap.
On first glimpse...
... she looks like a chubby Siouxsie Sioux.
I like this
it's a bit silly, and I like the fact she's all made up and looking a bit 80s.
And Billybob Dylan, if that's your definition of 'Chubby' you need to fix the screen resolution on your monitor, load an image of Posh Spice to calibrate it properly.
As the site's official
Chubby Checker, I've checked and she's not chubby.
Ah, yes, but no, but
there's a definitional difference between simply 'chubby' and being "a chubby Siouxsie Sioux".
Definitional Difference
TMFTL
Ooh! Did I hit a nerve?
I didn't mean to cause any offense.
Anyway, I didn't say Kate was chubby. Kate looks great. I said she looks a bit like a chubby Siouxsie. Look at those eyes! It's Creatures-era Siouxsie! And Siouxsie was in those days, well, scrawny, and the photo looked to me, at first glance, like a jowly Siouxsie.
It's just like describing myself as a slightly leaner Nick Frost.
Nah, course not!
I was just making a lame joke about Chubby Checking.
If the word chubby appears anywhere on the Word site I leap into action, like some kind of spambot.
Although spam's a bit fatty, so I must be a leanmeatbot.
I shall stick with "jowly" from now on...
... and then only when referring to La Sioux!!
Kate Bush...
the only woman alive who can make fingerless gloves sexy.
Oh come on
She looks like a scary bag lady.
And I'd keep well away while she has those scissors in her hand.
Scary bag lady
Is there any other sort ?
(And yes, I am serious, the few I have seen terrified me)
I Thought
she had attempted a manicure with the scissors and got carried away.
Bag Lady
That film strip looks odd...
It appears to be alternating frames of a Coke bottle on it's side and a Coca-Cola logo.
[Narrows eyes]
Can't be 100% sure, but is it alternating the covers of the two albums that are being partly re-recorded/'revisited' on the 'Director's Cut' record? 'Sensual World' and 'Red Shoes', I think - one really looks like a head and shoulders photo of KB, the other could be the red ballet shoe in a circle.
Back to looking at Kate now, thanks.
D'oh!
Of course it is.
As you were
She's looking a bit old
I'm not sure I would have recognised her unless you'd said who she was. I thought it was Millicent Martin.
Always good to have her back though.
To be fair, she *is* a bit old now...
although she's still 8 years younger than me.
A lot of make-up and Photoshop
going on there. Unless she's been living in a dark cave for the last 20 years.
And here in a nutshell is my problem with Ms Bush..
To me her music has occasionally been very interesting, but on the whole of the "Hello Clouds, Hello Sky" teen bedroom romantic variety. She is though, undeniably one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.
This combination of occasionally interesting twee and utter gorgeousness is the root of her extraordinary popularity these days. To a generation of men between the ages of 35 and 60 she is an idealised version of that most idealised of woman they will ever meet - their first true love.
She's come to represent all thats most fragrant, mysterious, sexy, and just different in the species known as "women" that you get to know in a huge sensual rush when you cross that line. For most of us in that catchment group she will always be the nymph in the pink T shirt who seems unaware ( and uninterested) that every man in her vicinity is drawn like magnets to her chest line.
On one level I think she always knew that a large part of her popularity rested on this idealised identification of her. It may even have explained her Garboesque retreat from public viewing. Much easier to go with the teenage image then watch the evolving woman.
And now she's gotten old.....
Blue girls come in every size, some are wise and some otherwise.
Grrr
Sorry Bern, this post really annoys me, in particular this phrase: "On one level I think she always knew that a large part of her popularity rested on this idealised identification of her." This is nonsense from stem to stern. Surely her popularity rests on her brilliance and uniqueness as an artist. She's made some of the most compelling and original music of the last 33 years, and done it on her own terms. She's been an innovator in more ways than one, incorporating disparate folks musics from around the world into the very fabric of her songwriting as well as on the recordings of those songs; pioneering the use of the Fairlight; making highly idiosyncratic videos; and doing a tour which was, from all accounts, as much of a one-off as she is.
As for "Hello clouds, hello sky", that's just laughable. Perhaps you haven't paid that much attention to her songs. As DogFacedBoy points out below, from the word go her songs touched on subject matter darker than many who affect to dabble in the Dark Side. Lest we forget, the title song of her first album is about a girl who, having been impregnated by her brother, is about to kill herself. Twee enough? How about Army Dreamers? Breathing? The Morning Fog?
Is Kate Bush beautiful? Yes, of course she is. But so was Wendy James, absolutely stunning. And nobody gives a tinker's cuss about her music now. I think there's a reason for that.
Nope. I just like
the music. It's all in the chord changes. She could look like Mark e smith for all I care.
A chubby...
... Mark E. Smith?
Edward Scissorhands' mum?
"but on the whole of the "Hello Clouds, Hello Sky"
teen bedroom romantic variety"
You clearly ahven't been paying attention. Even 'The Man With The Child In His Eyes' which she wrote at 14 is way past girlish attitude to love.
All in the ear of the beholder...
And not to these ears I'm afraid. She's always had a huge critical "Free pass" due to her looks to my mind. She's been good, but no more than,say, David Sylvian. Only diffo being Sylvian isn't as good looking as her (Well, not now anyway...)
Tosh
I think she's brilliant. One of the most influential artists ever and a fantastic songwriter. The fact that she's not bunging out album after album speaks volumes about her.
I love her, always have.
Sorry, but that is about the
Sorry, but that is about the daftest post I have ever read (and that includes the piffle I normally write). David Sylvian, not fit to pluck her eyebrows.
And it was about Steve Blacknell!
Yes, him from the TV show "Knock Your Block Off". Shocking.
No
its in the lyrics.
'Breathing' for example from the viewpoint of an unborn child as a nuclear war occurs.
We've lost our chance
we're the first and last
After the blast
Chips of Plutonium
Are twinkling in every lung.
Not exactly lightweight. As an attractive woman she used her looks to further he career. When asked about those famous leotard shots she bristled at the idea that they were somehow forced upon her.
A woman can use her attractiveness as can yer average boyband bozo. Accept that in Kate's case there is so much more substance. Not just a pretty face and all that
Yes
I still would ...
Sorry boys, I anticipated a hanging posse for this
And it sounds as if your gathering in the saloon as I type. But it won't change my mind. In mitigation a couple of things I should say..
1) I've got every album she's ever produced.
2) Some of them are exceedingly good.
3) I am in no way a strenuous critic of her work
It's interesting and enjoyable in parts, but so is the work of any number of her contemparies - Gary Numan, Midge Ure, Souxsie etc. But then so are UB40.I just don't buy her as some major musical force.
In many ways she parallels the Clash - a lot of middle aged men in opinion forming environments lionise them as some sort of legendary "rebels" (when they were nothing of the sort...) cos they represented that to their teenage selves. I think Kate has the same sort of position for different reasons.
Erm
I know at least one woman who likes her as well, and amazing she also posts on this list which apparently consists entirely of middle aged men.
KB
Christ on a bike! No wonder she keeps herself to herself, if the appearance of one new pic can induce such heavy breathing on one hand and disrespect on the other.
I'm not disrespectful, I like her...
Just not to the extent everyone else seems to...
Just so that Mr Cues doesn't feel isolated
I have to say his comments ring major bells with me. I always thought Ms Bush was someone whose music I ought to like more than I actually do.
Chunks of Hounds Of Love and Sensual World are really good (although the best bit on the former is of course Popol Vuh), but I was hugely disappointed by Aeriel - that song about a woman doing her washing? ( (c) Liam Gallagher). And it comes across precisely in the Hello Birds etc fashion, to my ears.
Each to their own of course, but in my view she's good without being great. Sorry.
Huzzah!
I feel slightly vindicated now. It's not just me. Thank you Douglas.
Me too...
She's done some interesting stuff but has never really clicked with me.
I'm Spartacus
I'm with the dissenters on this, much as I love some of Kate's work.
I don't really see her as a great artist.
And I've given it a chance, but her recent work all sounds rather arid and studio-bound to me.
The song about doing the washing
benefits from a proper listen to the lyrics. There's a sinister subtext which may or may not be about murder and death. I dismissed it at first as well.
Fair comment
I shall go away and investigate now!
Sensual World
That's probably my favourite of her albums and I'm looking forward to hearing the new version, although the original was the soundtrack for many, er, intimate evenings with my ex. Whenever she put a CD on and I heard those church bells ringing I knew what would happen next. Still a great album though, despite the flashbacks I get.
I didn't like "The Red Shoes" at all, apart from "Moments of Pleasure", which was brilliant. As for "Aerial" I gave up - found the first disk very tedious indeed, and the second just didn't grab me at all. I actually don't think I've listened to all of it to be honest.
She's unlike any other artist,
& her looks are the icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned (& I'm a bird an'all!). One of the many reasons why I've followed & loved her work since I was a teen is her artistic daring & her ongoing interest in dark, taboo subject matter.
Yes, her neck's thickened a bit but she's in her 50's ferchrissakes. I got a buzz from seeing her happy, hamming it up & all dressed up instead of the soft-focus, serious treatment.
It's always great to have her back. National Treasure etc etc.
Kate Is Fantastic
not sure about her latest project though, since it covers albums which weren't my favourites,maybe I'll give it a go though Not sure it will reach the heights of The Hounds Of Love or Aerial.
This from Universal
and Music Matters. I wonder if she will be releasing the "new/old stuff" through them.
View it large. S'lovely.
I heard a brief clip of one of the new old tracks
and the dreaded "autotune" can clearly be heard.
The Sensual World is a cracking album but Red Shoes is bobbins so I'm looking forward to seeing what she can salvage from that. Just leave 'This Woman's Work' alone. Ta
The 'Directors Cut' is coming out on her own label 'Fish People'. In conjunction with EMI? I assume she's still with them despite all the upheavals. Maybe its over to Universal now for the reissues
To be fair...
...the original of "Deeper Understanding" was kind of autotuned in the chorus too. Having said that I do think the computer voice in the new version sounds pretty dreadful compared to the original.
The girl can't help it
I saw the picture in the OP and inwardly scoffed "there she is again, being all mysterious and enigmatic". But then I thought that it is probably impossible for Kate Bush to be anything else.
If it was a straightforward picture of her in the style of, say, Daniel O'Donnell - smiling and stroking a labrador - I would still wonder what it could possibly *mean*...
Kate Bush, David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen...
... I am fairly indifferent to all three of these. I like some of their stuff but that's it.
I own no Richard Thomson albums.
Perhaps I should change my user name to "pariah" during the next amnesty?
Ah.. now don't get me started on David Bowie...
Or I really will get upset.
Diane Keaton called
she wants her wardrobe back.
Music's Stanley Kubrick
Or in this case Sergei Eisenstein
And if you think she's all about 'hello birds, hello sky' you've not seen her burn up the stage like this:
To be fair,
this is 33 years old - I don't think she'd be doing it now, and frankly I wouldn't want her to. A piano and a mic would be just fine.
No, no, no, no
She's not just a great singer, but a great composer, arranger and producer. Just a piano and a mic would be a huge waste of all that talent (but I'd still be in the front row...)
Listen:
Is messing with original stuff wise, tho'?
From what I'm gathering here, Kate's gone back and re-worked her old albums, correct? Not always a good move; she re-recorded ‘Wuthering Heights’ for the Greatest Hits collection, and totally missed one high note on ‘Cathy’, which grates to this day. Sometimes just a polish up of the EQ from the studio masters is all that's needed, otherwise it can be an unmitigated disaster; Jimmy Page being allowed to remaster Zeppelin, for example. He should have just shipped them to Bob Ludwig and had done with it.
Back on topic, while I've got all Kate's albums, several original vinyl bought on day of release, like 'Kick Inside', I'm happy to admit 'The Dreaming' leaves a bit to be desired, and 'Red Shoes' has never worked it's way into my affections, but I really love 'Aerial', especially the second disc, particularly when Kate starts laughing. The girl's got a filthy laugh.
She's got a beautiful house in South Devon, too, but sadly wasn't in last time I called round.
She did something after
"Wuthering Heights"? Blimey, who knew?
An awful lot of
critical hype was expended some time ago in the various media regarding Joanna Newsom. Lyrically very strong, agreed; melodically inventive; vocally accomplished, but however hard I try with 'Have One on Me' after about 20 minutes I'm thinking, put some Kate Bush on and listen to the real thing.
Anyway, I'm with the 'Kate: Genius' school of thought. Hounds of Love is the best album for sheer bravado and accomplishment, though the earlier albums may have been the more influential in the long run. TBH, which other solo singer songstress apart from Joni has had the influence and originality ...? Isn't even L Gaga a bit Kate Bushy?
Just heard the 'new' one
The Auto-tune is as precisely as horrible as the snippets would suggest. Why in the name of fuck would you replace the Trio Bulgarka with Auto-tune..? I don't care how in keeping with the lyric it is to computerise the chorus, it sounds shite.
Otherwise, obviously redone main vocal and drum track, both perfectly acceptable, but not essential. Doubtless other tweaks too, but they didn't leap out.
Here it is:
EDIT: The above link is not the short mix I heard on R2, but a longer version with a completely different ending and much better for it. The auto-tune/vocoder effect is still horrid though.
Agreed, plus...
This is the wrong time of year to listen to this.Should be October.Is that the over-rated boring Steve Gadd playing his trademark shuffle? he stole it btw (fifty-ways) from the soundtrack to 'The Longest Day'
I love KB put this is pointless & backward.
"over-rated boring Steve Gadd"
I'm not even going to dignify this with a response.
...
D'oh!
Maybe
It's a grower
Lyrics very dated now.
I dunno
'I feel complately lost without my little black box' is something a lot of people can relate to. 'I turn to my computer as a friend' etc
But the modem\fax screech is soooo 90's. Katie. You got BT Infinity yeah? The vocal is still strong but the autotune is flippin hideous, like a kids TV show from the 80's version of 'the future'. The new arrangment and rhythm patterns are very 'Ariel' in tone
I'll still buy the album no doubt. But not until after a quick pre-purchase listen
The inimical Catherine
Kate Bush Ltd: "Dividing the nation since 1978"
Her press release
The best thing about this press release
is the last sentence...
That's all very well
but according to Amazon there is also a box set release of 3 discs. No indication of the tracks as yet. Anybody have a clue?
Stop press: “Director’s Cut” will be released in the following formats: Digital Album, Standard CD in a case-bound book, Deluxe CD (three disc package, including Director’s Cut, The Sensual World and re-mastered The Red Shoes) in a case-bound book and two-disc vinyl."
New photograph. Too big to show on here, too little time to reduce it.
http://www.katebushnews.com/wp-content/uploads/KB2A.jpg
I don't understand these things
Quite excited about the special edition (although the vinyl may have to be used as my new Kate Bush frisbees)...
But why re-master Red Shoes and not Sensual World? Because it doesn't need it? Don't most old(-ish) albums benefit from a brush-up.
Help please, someone technical.
The Sensual World
was recently given a deluxe vinyl edition by Mobile Fidelity\Steve Hoffman from the masters so I'm guessing the remastering was done then. So maybe its a rights issue thing? although as I understand it the Kick Inside \ Hounds Of Love & TSW are all due deluxe remastered versions this year
Really? Fantastic!
New issues of Kick Inside and Hounds of Love too? [Starts coming over a bit unnecessary.]
That pic
Nigella's let herself go, hasn't she?
.
When
she asked if they could "pass the hairbrush"' she obviously dropped an H.
Yeah well
You know what? I still, very definitely, would.
She wouldn't, but I can dream...
There's none as bitchy
as the Word Massive men. Couldn't she have got rid of those grey hairs too?
some very strange posts
Well I am a 40 yr old male and I actually got into Kate Bush quite late just after 'Sensual World' came out and I then got everything from before and since. Sensual World is probably my favourite KB LP so I am a little worried about the new versions but I am looking forward to it as anything new from her is welcome. I loved 'Aerial' - thought it was very atmospheric and very very beautiful in places (the person who mentioned 'the washing machine song' - you are spot on) That track and The Coral Room are awe inspiring. I have only heard the new single once (Deeper Understanding) and yes her son is the new 'computer' and yes his part is completely different to the original but if she had not changed anything we would all moan. Have just seen the track listing and I do worry that nothing coulod improve 'This Woman's Work', 'Top of the City' & 'Moments of Pleasure' but i look forward to listening to how she has tinkered with them. Just glad she has not changed 'Rocket's Tail' which is probably my favourite track ever of hers
oh and...
since when has a vocoder been autotune???????????????????????????????
Since never.
Nobody is confusing the two. I suspect the effect being used is either Autotune, or the Melodyne Software which can be used to correct vocal pitch but can also be used to re-tune vocals to whatever notes you enter into it which creates that strangely robotic, alien vocal sound. This was plastered all over George Michael's 'True Faith'. At least on the KB tune it is just used on the chorus and it is deliberately used to create a robotic, computerised sound. It's not being used to artificially 'correct' the vocal, it's being used an effect. The common gripe with Autotune or Melodyne is not that it is 'cheating' or trying to fix vocals, it's just that it is dreadfully hackneyed and over-used effect so for Ms Bush to be using it is a bit of a let down, given that she is renowned for innovation and not following fashion or musical trends.
Sylvian vs Bush
Sorry Woodface, but have to disagree with you on this one, I'm with Bernkastel-Kues. Not only is David up there with Kate but I'd say that in terms of being an important presence on the musical landscape he went floating past her years ago. I used to adore Kate's music, but Red Shoes was patchy to say the least, Ariel was bloated and dated and the one track I've heard from the new one doesn't inspire me with confidence either. Her muse (whoever/whatever it was) sadly seems to have left her after the wonderful The Sensual World, which was released in 1989. She was a dynamic, thrilling, important artist for eleven years 78-89; unfortunately she's been a largely irrelevant, unengaged and usually inactive one for the last 22 years.
Compare that with Sylvian's constant questing (though admittedly not always successful) musical adventures incorporating a range of styles from hard rock through to the classical avant-garde via dream-pop and electronica/glitch in that time via albums such as Rain Tree Crow, The First Day (with Fripp) Dead Bees on a Cake, Blemish, Nine Horses' Snow Borne Sorrow and the upcoming Died in the Wool, the cover of which reminds us that no-one has eyebrows to match David's!
Although his standing is not always fully appreciated by the UK media, who seem to struggle to get over the image he adopted as a twenty year old, he is thankfully appreciated elsewhere, as highlighted by his being named the Artist in Residence at this year's Punkt Festival in Norway, arguably the world's most intriguing music and arts festival:
http://www.davidsylvian.com/news/david_sylvian_is_confirmed_as_artist_in...
And if you want an indication of undeniable musical evolution/questioning over more than thirty years this provides it:
By contrast, Kate sadly got stuck on one sound and has seemed incapable/unwilling to move on which for fans like me is a real pity.
Incidentally, David and Kate were born a few miles from each other - Beckenham/Bexleyheath - and within a few months of each other in 1958 and also used to occasionally hang out together in the late 80s.
That's an interesting comparison
and I didn't realise they were the same age and from the same area, I tend to forget Bush started her career so young.
David Sylvian reminds me of Scott Walker, both were Teen idols and both have gone off in directions far beyond 'Top of the Pops' although Scott Walker probably further out than Sylvian.
I think the difference with Kate Bush is that she's still essentially working within the realm of 'grown up' commercial pop music, and she seems comfortable with that. I don't think she's ever had designs on being on the front cover of Wire Magazine, I think she'd much rather be on the front of The Word, Q or Mojo.
Perhaps we can distinguish these two artists by their choice of collaborators.
Sylvian - Ryuichi Sakamoto, Robert Fripp, Fennesz
Bush - Prince, Rolf Harris, Lenny Henry
You're a brave man Kevin...
to go out on a limb like that for Sylvo.You're more than likely to be pilloried by the mob around here.
Oh I dunno... I always thought he had a nice voice
and this clip has always sounded good to me.