what an absolute shower they are. I'll probably sound like a horrible snob, but to my mind, Kasabian fans are the kind of people who think the wittiest man in the world is Tim Lovejoy

where I switched over to the football. I can forgive all the little girls in their dressing-up-box finery, but this was thoroughly depressing.

That's possibly the limpest rock song ever. I'm on Fiiiiiahhh! And I've got some flames to prove it!

Kids are predisposed towards assuming that latest means best when it comes to music, but you have to feel sorry for the generation growing up with this as their yardstick. What a shit time to be young.

last night, and am at work so cannot see clip you've posted, but I reckon Kasabian are developing quite nicely thank you, and their latest 'West Ryder...', is their best yet, a pleasing mixture of rock and psychedelia. They are apparently a cracking live act as well.

once saying in an interview that one of the reasons they were breaking up was that their albums were dying a death while the likes of Kasabian were doing really well.

The Brits this year have proved that I am now officially middle aged. I have only one song by anyone who actually won anything (Bonkers by Dizzee Rascal if you're interested). I have nothing by Kasabian, Lady Gaga, Lilly Allen, Robbie Williams, Florence and the Machine, JLS or any of the others. I've heard tunes by all of them, just never actual bought one.

I do think I care about music and am open to new things. But the evidence really is against me. And I'm only 35!

Kids are predisposed towards assuming that latest means best when it comes to music.

I'm not sure that they are any more. The ones I come across like all sorts of things but they tend to be the first ones to tell you that the current stuff isn't as "authentic" as the old stuff.

..of Give Out But Don't Give Up era Primal Scream. I thought that record was great when it came out in my mid twenties, now it just looks and sounds like comical Rock n Roll posturing and I can't believe I fell for it. If I was 26 now I'd love Kasabian and think it was uncool to have a mortgage. It's just where you're at I guess.

..what I should have cited is Primal Scream's entire career.

Who's this Serger chappie at 3'20"? I only saw Noel Fielding had done a Jarvis and jumped on stage to swipe the mike.

Not sure about his new look goatee though.

Was that Freddie Flintoff on lead vocal and does Jimmy Tarbuck know he's missing a jacket?

Years ago I would go and see a band like Genesis or Pink Floyd and spend most of the gig going "Woooow" at the amaaazing lights and flying porkers. But then something changed in me (possibly at the same time as I started to develop rogue ear hair) and I started to long for entertainment that was presented in a more down-to-earth fashion. Rock n' roll needs to find a new visual language; the old one has become a bunch of meaningless cliches.

This always get cranked up in the car when it comes on the radio. They'll have a crackin' greatest hits album in a few years time.
'A shit time to be young' ? When you can have instant access to your favourite songs and listen to them whenever you want, plus see your favourite bands live, a different one every day of the week it's seems AND you can watch their new video on your phone/home computer /telly as and when you want to, PLUS you have the whole of recorded history to explore and enjoy! Yeah, you're right, it sounds shit.

Coming into work this morning, the consensus was that Kasabian were really good last night. I was the only one to say I thought they were rubbish, and I'm the youngest in the office.

As pointed out on the Live Brits thread elsewhere, Kasabian are a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of rock n' roll. In theory, they do everything right, but they're so devoid of charm, invention, spirit and ideas that it's disheartening. They're also really laddish - it's all "come on, let's 'ave it, lads, we're WELL mad for it".

Anyway, none of this means it's a bad time to be young and a fan of music. As pointed out in the mag before, the best time to be young is always now. While the music of 2010 isn't exactly stellar, there are some diamonds out there, plus there's the entire history of recorded music to catch up on, accessible 24/7 at the click of a few buttons. Sure, being young now means "you weren't there, man", but new music just means music that's new to you.

(EDIT: It appears the same point was made above as I was typing this. Great minds C&M, great minds)

Sorry, bit of a tangent there. Anyway, in summary, Kasabian are fucking dreadful.

of the Pet Shop Boys in that woman's front room would have been good.

are always going to split opinion. They're that kind of band. The fact that they can do this instead of provoking nothing more but quiet antipathy speaks volumes though.

For what it's worth, aside from 'Where Did All The Love Go', Kasabian - for me - died when Chris Karloff left. He is the Izzy Stradlin of Leicester.

... and I bought 'Give Out...' when I was 14 and thought it was pish. Except 'Funky Jam'. And R**ks. Of course.

Because I find the skinny bloke very amusing. There's something about his NME-targeted look that clashes with the fact he's from Leicester.

It's a fun enough song, not really my cup of tea but it feels like a massive hit.

They are a rock band in the noughties where instant success is demanded and time to grow not allowed. Despite that they have produced 3 successful albums and gathered a large live following and produce a great live show. They are on the Brits, why not, and they played a song they have written and performed it with a panache and a air of showmanship that was only bettered by Lady Gaga on the night.
Really, what would you have them do? What is so wrong that you can't even recognise their relevance to another generation? Please explain because if you can't even acknowledge Kasabians place in the world you might as well shut the door put on your latest box set and remain rooted in 1970 something when David Bowie sung songs about space dressed as a spaceman and was called a genius. (I have no problem with David Bowie by the way just the hypocrisy)

They have the component parts of a good rock band, but something holds them back. They do have good tunes (Fast Fuse as shown below is a favourite of mine), and I sort of feel they are a band you could get behind – but they just stay as better than the average.

Remember reading a review of ”West Pauper…” and it was pointed out that one of the band saw the album as a narrative, and the other as just a collection of songs. Think that sums up why they won’t achieve greatness.

And I like Tim Lovejoy. That's him off Something For The Weekend, isn't it?

I quite like Kasabian.

My wife and I were both students in 95-98 so we are lovers of the Britpop bands, though we don't really keep up with these modern young bands and my wife doesn't have a clue who Kasabian are!

They are the only youthful band I really keep up with. The live performances are generally electrifying and the lead singer (don't know his name) has a great rock n' roll swagger akin to a youthful Liam Gallagher. Kasabian entertain me and there's nowt wrong with that!

to say. That's their only problem. Aside from that they're okay. Ish.

I like some of their stuff but there's always a nagging suspicion that they do what they do painting-by-numbers style. I've never been able to shake this off.

Well I think Kasabian are a dull old bunch. But a friend of mine met them at a press shindig and said they were very nice boys. I do however like Tim Lovejoy and I am a regular viewer of Something for the Weekend.

setting up for a lunchtime spot in Fopp in Nottingham. Made a fearful racket tuning up (if that's what bands do these days) so me, Mrs Preston 74 and junior in the pram beat a hasty retreat thus costing Fopp fifty quid or so which I probably spent in Selectadisc instead.
Brits, Awards - how meaningless have they become? Like the endless plethora of "Other team's coach's Man Of The Match" baubles that no nine-year-olds' footy match can be staged without dishing out a dozen or so of.
After the 60's when the NME had a Poll Winners' Party, say in the 70's, did anyone ever actually get a little plastic trophy for "Best Guitarist" etc, did anyone furthermore give a flying one?
One wonders whether, say, Rod, Tetsu and all the Faces have a little bloke with a guitar on a plinth for topping the "Thanks For The Live Album But You Needn't Have Bothered.." category with "Overtures and Beginners"
Far too much store set by these things
Oasis best album of last 30 years? Really? First one I've thought of off the top of my head - "Imperial Bedroom" - have Oasis ever really made a better album than that?

How many Kasabian fans actually know where they got their name from?

My housemate - quote 'best live band on the planet' *cough* *cough* didnt.

Loved the line about Jimmy Tarbuck missing a jacket

I notice that their first cd now competes for space with Travis, Killers and the last 4 Oasis albums in the pound section of my local 2nd hand record shop

Says it all really - music for indie kids who buy their cds in supermarkets, taken in by the lavish advertisments, a few listens and they realise its actually pretty crap, 2 singles and a load of filler.

See also Razorshite, Keane, Kooks, Fratellis etc etc

... of four blokes doing an impression of a rock band.

with the feeling of waiting for something to start.

Nothing, for me, did. They had the riff, the drums and the hook. But none of them lit anything. Nothing about them sparked.

Rock music seems very flat these days and bands like Kasabian aren't doing enough to kick it. I don't wish to be negative about them - I want to like them. I enjoy that 'sound' but ultimately they just do not pull on anything inside me.

..since 1970, and I can put my hand on my heart and say that this is quite the dullest thing I've seen since the last British rock band I saw.
There hasn't been a truly great British band since The Smiths..been a couple of good ones mind.

Serge banging on about how fanatstic they are takes the shine off.
Stop telling me how good you are.
The truly great bands do not tell you how good they are. They don't need to.

I've always found them too derivative and uninspired. Have they had an original thought or tune? That said, they are much better live than they sound in the studio and I probably would've liked them 15 years ago as a Britpop band. Nowadays my favourite bands are The Felice Brothers, Conor Oberst and all things Americana. On a more general point, the Brits has never said nothing to me about my life!

"1)The stage prop for 'Fire'? Some Fire"

Well, what would you have used?

They're just uninspired to the nth degree. I also strongly suspect of them being thick as two short planks. - nobody with any intelligence could write lyrics that pathetic. They're the musical equivalent of Scott Mills, completely lacking in wit, detail or anything whatsoever to say, and I don't care how good their live show is: if the music is this turgid and laddish, who cares how effectively they prance around a stage?

While I realise there are intelligent, clued-up people who like them, I don't understand it. They strike me as being for people who would like their friends to think of them as having credible taste, but buy two records a year, from the supermarket. Although I should clarify that buying two records a year, from the supermarket, doesn't make you a bad person unless you also have delusions of taste and like your mates to think of you as being all "indie". THEN you're a bad person. ;)