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I've just ordered Venom's 'Welcome to Hell' from Amazon

Patrick Crowther's picture

Holly and ivy, my arse. It shall be all pentangles and goat fornication chez Crowther this Satanmas!

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Sing-a-long with Satan...

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Patrick Crowther | 17 December 2010 - 6:48pm

That's a great album.

I bought that when it first came out along with the first Raven album, also on Neat Records. Excellent rocking, Geordie style.

I'm sure they called themselves 'sport rock' or something similar.

EDIT: Aaah, Athletic Rock, thank you Google. There's a sub-genre of one!

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Lard | 17 December 2010 - 7:52pm

I think Venom were a truly innovative band

No, really, I do. They were about the only band from that generation that really tried to do something new with what Black Sabbath had started, rather than simply emulate it.

Sure, they couldn't play that well, and they got less interesting the more ambitious they got, but their first two albums were great fun.

In John Tucker's book about the NWOBHM, "Suzie Smiled", the author tells how the manager of his local HMV actually refused to sell him a copy of Welcome to Hell after playing the first two tracks. You don't get that with iTunes.

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Calum MacBeath | 17 December 2010 - 11:18pm

Be careful

If you mention NWOBHM here your cards are marked!

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Uncle Wheaty | 17 December 2010 - 11:34pm

Thanks! I'll bear that in mind

NWOBHM! NWOBHM! NWOBHM!

*listens to Angel Witch*

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Calum MacBeath | 18 December 2010 - 8:42am

You probably need this

to refer to when writing your Christmas cards then, Patrick.

The ABCs of Heavy Metal:

(From here)

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drakeygirl | 17 December 2010 - 7:04pm

That is ace...

Perfect for goat boy when he arrives!

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Patrick Crowther | 17 December 2010 - 7:11pm

I reckon I can identify 14 of the bands on that,

can anyone beat that before I post my answers?

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stimpy | 18 December 2010 - 7:56pm

I got nine

But I've got a pretty limited Heavy Metal knowledge, which just goes to show how iconic some of the bands' fonts/logos are...

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drakeygirl | 18 December 2010 - 8:13pm

Hmmm...

...might be sticking my neck out here but I think 19. Or 20.

(Got a bit confused and started using fingers to count. Sign of a genuine metalhead perhaps.)

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Specs_Beard | 18 December 2010 - 9:37pm

3...

...and proud of it.Not my cup of tea at all, I'm afraid

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ainsley009 | 18 December 2010 - 10:27pm

Stuck on 14

Please anybody .. Help - What/Who are they?
(I recognise the C, but am buggered if I can remember wwhere its from!)

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Rigid Digit | 18 December 2010 - 9:45pm

Is C

Ver 'DC?

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Bob | 18 December 2010 - 9:48pm

Course it is! What a silly bunt

Right, thats 15 now
Just off to consult HM section of vinyl collection (some of the records in there are so Heavy, I have had to get special reinforced shelves)

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Rigid Digit | 18 December 2010 - 9:57pm

Ok, I've got...

B = Black Sabbath
C= AC/DC
D = Dio
E = Diamond Head?
H = Van Halen
K = Kiss
M = Metallica
O = Motörhead
Q = Queen
R = Iron Maiden
W = Whitesnake
Z = Blzzard Of Ozz

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stimpy | 18 December 2010 - 9:57pm

E is from

Megadeth, I think.
And the U is from Mötley Crüe.

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drakeygirl | 18 December 2010 - 9:59pm

13.

B = Sabbath
C = AC/DC
E = Megadeth
H = Aerosmith
I = Deicide
M = Metallica
ö = Mötörhead
P = Pantera
Q = Queen
R = Maiden
Ü = Mötley Crüe
W = Whitesnake
Y = Slayer

Or vat's wot I reckon.

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Bob | 18 December 2010 - 10:00pm

Bugger.

Van Halen, not Aerosmith. Although Aerosmith do have the winged thing going on too.

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Bob | 18 December 2010 - 10:02pm

It's pretty obvious that everyone's snowed in tonight.

Isn't it.
*drums fingers, waits excitedly for Specs_Beard to post his answers*

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drakeygirl | 18 December 2010 - 10:08pm

Of course!

G = Danzig
J = Judas Priest

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Bob | 18 December 2010 - 10:13pm

And is the V

Venom? Although it's not quite the usual one I recognise. Similar, though.

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Bob | 18 December 2010 - 10:15pm

Shit!

The N is Napalm Death.

I'm done. Spent. Exhausted. Metalled out. My iTunes is bleeding.

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Bob | 18 December 2010 - 10:28pm

Not sure that V is Venom.

Perhaps at this point I should say I don't actually HAVE the answers.
We are going to have to work this out for ourselves.
Hey, but it is still snowing where I am.

EDIT: Ooh - A is from Death.

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drakeygirl | 18 December 2010 - 10:30pm

Aargh! Sorry I'm late back

Most of the ones I'd got have already been posted now (understandably) but I also reckon...

F is from Cradle of Filth
V is from Voivod
X is from Exodus

L and S are driving me mad.

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Specs_Beard | 19 December 2010 - 2:11am

Phew...

S is from Sepultura, I think.

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Specs_Beard | 19 December 2010 - 2:13am

Well done, Sir.

So, I think these are the ones we've got. We're missing L and T.

A = Death
B = Black Sabbath
C = AC/DC
D = Dio
E = Megadeth
F = Cradle Of Filth
G = Danzig
H = Van Halen
I = Deicide
J = Judas Priest
K = Kiss
L =
M = Metallica
N = Napalm Death
O = Motorhead
P = Pantera
Q = Queen
R = Iron Maiden
S = Sepultura
T =
U = Motley Crue
V = Voivod
W = Whitesnake
X = Exodus
Y = Slayer
Z = Ozzy Osbourne

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drakeygirl | 19 December 2010 - 12:34pm

L

= Morbid Angel

Knew I'd seen it somewhere.

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Bob | 19 December 2010 - 5:34pm

T

= Anthrax

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James Blast | 19 December 2010 - 5:50pm

*sings, joyfully*

It had to be you,
It had to be you,
I wandered around,
And finally found,
Anthrax.

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drakeygirl | 19 December 2010 - 6:48pm

I feel like we're owed...

...some kind of group hug. Nice work!

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Bob | 19 December 2010 - 7:26pm

Naaaaah

let's sacrifice a goat! \m/

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James Blast | 19 December 2010 - 8:16pm
drakeygirl | 19 December 2010 - 9:06pm

Yay!

Well done! Morbid Angel! Anthrax! Thank God for that. Or Satan.

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Specs_Beard | 19 December 2010 - 11:26pm

Goat fornication

what exactly is that Patrick?

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Marky | 17 December 2010 - 7:22pm

Having sex with...

goats. A man of my years can't be too choosy.

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Patrick Crowther | 17 December 2010 - 7:26pm

One for the ladies...

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Patrick Crowther | 17 December 2010 - 7:24pm

So what's the point in this worshipping the Devil stuff?

Great shot. Pretty sure I saw an aging version of one of them working in Asda the other day. Arranging the cauliflowers.

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Marky | 17 December 2010 - 7:40pm

I suppose there's about as much point to it...

as all that worshiping God stuff. But the devil has all the best tunes! ;-)

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Patrick Crowther | 17 December 2010 - 7:42pm

Not denied

but Tesco has the best Cauliflowers.

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Marky | 17 December 2010 - 7:48pm

Can't see picture of Venom without being reminded of this

(Not entirely sure why though)

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Rigid Digit | 17 December 2010 - 8:01pm

Satan made me...

click on the up arrow of my own blog entry. He's a wicked one... and I love 'im!

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Patrick Crowther | 17 December 2010 - 7:34pm

I had this as an avatar on another forum

Photobucket

just thought you'd like to know

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James Blast | 17 December 2010 - 7:40pm

That is excellent...

Two questions...

1. Who is it?

2. What's a Fud?

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Patrick Crowther | 17 December 2010 - 7:43pm

Immortal

I think... Google says "yes"

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James Blast | 17 December 2010 - 10:05pm

*naive face*

I am utterly out of my depth with heavy metal. I know nothing about it. Always happy to learn. Any recommendations for a novice.

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Hannah | 17 December 2010 - 7:54pm

How about

Metallica - Master Of Puppets
Iron Maiden - Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf

Three of my heavy favourites. Welcome to hell, Hannah! :)

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Ola Claesson | 17 December 2010 - 8:02pm

Nah

Seventh Son is a pile of Prog Rock. Number of the Beast is many times better
Black Sabbath - the 1st self titled album
AC/DC - Highway to Hell

Deceptively crude of course, but if you don't get them, your soul has to be oddly dead in some way. Just so y'know ;-)

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Marky | 17 December 2010 - 8:15pm

A few from me too.

AC/DC - Highway to Hell
AC/DC - Back In Black*
Iron Maiden - Number Of The Beast
Iron Maiden - Killers
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Pantera - Vulgar Display Of Power
Deftones - White Pony
Metallica - Metallica ("black" album)*
Metallica - Kill 'Em All
Slayer - Reign In Blood
Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger*

I tend to like concise metal. Maiden, Metallica and Slayer have all had their widdly, silly periods, but the albums above are all pretty short, brutal and viscerally ace.

I've asterisked the most beginner-friendly ones.

Oh, and here are two tracks from a hugely fun metal project I did a couple of years ago. Tee hee.


01 Draw by westcountrytouristboard


02 Wip by westcountrytouristboard

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Bob | 17 December 2010 - 9:10pm

Killers

No. Buy the debut album instead.

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Uncle Wheaty | 17 December 2010 - 9:46pm

I like the debut a lot.

But I loooove Killers. I always wonder where Maiden might have gone if Paul Di'Anno had stayed in the band. Not anywhere near Powerslave, I would venture to suggest.

That said, I much prefer Bruce on almost every level. It's just interesting to speculate.

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Bob | 17 December 2010 - 9:55pm

DiAnno was a great vcalist

I cannot imagine him singing the Number of the Beast songs which is what Harris was leading them towards.

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Uncle Wheaty | 17 December 2010 - 10:11pm

When Bruce

sings "I'm a Wrathchild" I always hear "I'm a Rothschild"...

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spt | 19 December 2010 - 1:46pm

A pile of Prog Rock maybe

But surely not more so than Children Of The Damned, 22 Acacia Avenue and the mighty Hallowed Be Thy Name.

Also I do find it hard to totally embrace an album containing Invaders and Gangland both. They kind of kill the flow of the album for me. Run To The Hills is overfamiliar of course, but I won´t use it against them.

Beast is officially their classic album, but I would go for Piece Of Mind, Seventh Son or A Matter Of Life And Death any day of the week.

Yours truly,

The New Number One

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Ola Claesson | 17 December 2010 - 11:06pm

I don't know any Metallic or Iron Maiden

but I really like QOTSA's No-one Knows. Very very very very much.

I shall explore some more...

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Hannah | 17 December 2010 - 10:29pm

No One Knows is the song that got me hooked on QOTSA

And it´s on Songs For The Deaf. That band is great for making people discover heavy music if they are usually not keen on heavy metal. Bless Josh Homme and his melodies.

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Ola Claesson | 17 December 2010 - 10:58pm

Perhaps not so much the band but the song

No One Knows, pretty well their only undeniable classic in my humble opinion. Other than that I always had a soft spot for Era Vulgaris, from the otherwise boring album of the same name. Very effective and brutal change of rhythm in there somewhere that they should have made more of.

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Marky | 18 December 2010 - 1:17am

Welcome, my child... (shuts door with a creaking sound)

Heh heh heh heh! Sooo, you are interested in learning the dark arts of metal are ye?! Good! Good! Newcomers are always welcome! The land of metal is vast and unknowable, but the traveller who gives her heart to the horny horned one without reservation will be guided along the leather-studded path of riffs to reach the palace of wisdom...

Hannah... if you like silly songs about Satan, hell, demons etc etc then heavy metal may be for you. Venom is one of the more ludicrous examples, but they are actually extremely good at what they do. Today may not be the day for your indoctrination into the Church of Metal, but one day a friendly goat shall come-a-beckoning in your dreams and that shall be the chosen moment. From then onwards you shall be strangely attracted to men with bad moustaches wielding battle axes. And your life will be all the better for it...

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Patrick Crowther | 17 December 2010 - 8:16pm

CRIKEY!

Wow, that's a lot of homework I have to do! Thank you so much for your recommendations, I shall get listening and report back.

*makes devil's fingers at you all* (is that the correct etiquette?)

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Hannah | 17 December 2010 - 10:30pm

Etiquette...

You see, you've got the hang of it already!

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Patrick Crowther | 17 December 2010 - 10:35pm

Take it easy.

Nothing more curiously fascinating than a female who will admit to appreciating Hard Rock Hannah.

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Marky | 18 December 2010 - 1:30am

How about....

Two from the greatest metal vocalist EVER:

Black Sabbath - Heaven And Hell
Dio - Holy Diver

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Ruff-Diamond | 18 December 2010 - 7:08pm

You can add Stargazer to that list as well

RJDs finest moment.

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stimpy | 18 December 2010 - 8:40pm

I have a soft spot for Rainbow´s first album

Man On The Silver Mountain, Catch The Rainbow and The Temple Of The King are great songs. Great Dio song titles as well!

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Ola Claesson | 19 December 2010 - 1:11pm

Dio...

And we'll fly in the sky
Don't know why
Time to die

Dragons and rings
Demons and kings
Towers of rainbows
The never ending
Toll of the bell

etc etc

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Patrick Crowther | 19 December 2010 - 7:10pm

Where is

Uncle Wheaty ? Thought he'd be all over this like a satanic moth to a flame.
Beginning to get worried about you,Patrick .What next,Tygers of Pan Tang ?
The Japanese import of "Spellbound" is a steal at 28 pounds-99 pence (Spanish keyboard)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spellbound-Tygers-Pan-Tang/dp/B000P0I6YM/ref=ntt...

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Sour Crout | 17 December 2010 - 9:06pm

I can no longer deny...

the metal inside of me.

Nah, Manowar next.

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Patrick Crowther | 17 December 2010 - 9:13pm

I am here now!

Just buy Back in Black and if you like that come back for more...

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Uncle Wheaty | 17 December 2010 - 9:51pm

Yir aw meringue!

Thee Rolls Royce of heavy metal goes like this:
Megadeth
Megadeth
MEGADETH
MEGADETH

and also:
any Black Sabbath before Never Say Die
any Black Sabbath after Never Say Die especially the one with Ian Gillan Born Again
Napalm Death Scum and Utopia Banished
Judas Priest Sin After Sin then just about everything after
Metallica Ride the Lightning to ... and Justice
Anthrax Fistful of Metal to Among the Living
Slayer Reign in Blood and Seasons in the Abyss
Venom Prime Evil
Voivod Killing Technology, Dimension Hatross and Angel Rat
Ministry Psalm 69
Testament The Ritual
Nuclear Assault Survive! and Handle with Care
Sepultura Arise and Chaos AD
Paradise Lost Draconian Times their best album although One Second needs mentioning
ye prolly need some Type O Negative too, start with October Rust, Origin of the Feces is an acquired taste

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James Blast | 17 December 2010 - 10:38pm

Not forgetting...

Get Voivod's Rrroooaaarrr if you can find a copy. It's selling for a premium on Amazon at the moment, but you may wish to avail yourself of a copy over at Mediafire or Rapidshare. Until the nice chaps at Noise Records decide to reissue it, of course.

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kinkywolfgang | 18 December 2010 - 7:52pm

Didn't Mike Read once play Venom on his Radio 1 Breakfast show?

I believe Tommy Vance played a Venom track on The Friday Rock Show and jokingly bet Read £100 to the charity of his choice to play the rather extreme tune on his breakfast show. Read heard this and actually obliged. Mind you this was just after Read had made a twat of himself with the whole Frankie Goes To Hollywood ban, so was probably desperate not to seem a square

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Ricardo | 17 December 2010 - 10:50pm

Warhead

Yup, the song was "Warhead". Vance had played the single on the Friday Rock Show, enthusing that every now and again he heard a song that he felt was going to change how metal went and this was one of them. He then he made the dare to Read to play the song on the Breakfast show. The thing is, given then number of bands, from Slayer onwards, who subsequently cited Venom as a major influence, Vance was right.

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Calum MacBeath | 17 December 2010 - 11:11pm

Alan Freeman

played 'Speed King' by Deep Purple when he was standing in for Simon Bates doing the 'Golden Hour'. He had meant to play the A-side (Black Night) but I like to think the metal devil in Fluff did it accidentally on purpose.

Imagine: "So, pop pickers, what year did Bread want to Make It With You? And then there was..."

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Nick Duvet | 18 December 2010 - 8:38pm

"holly and ivy my arse"

is that, like, an order or (at least) a request?

You could at least have said 'please'.

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ivan | 18 December 2010 - 12:07am

Metal, lovely metal

A new band called Ghost are quite fun in a Satany kind of way.

Also: love riffs, love Kylesa. Two drummers. Can't go wrong.

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Specs_Beard | 18 December 2010 - 1:44am

You'll be lucky to get it for Christmas

Been hearing today about the Post Office backlog : enormous, even before the newest bout of snow. I am still waiting for two items dispatched ages ago, allegedly.

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Doods | 18 December 2010 - 7:21pm

Yes...

but my postie has wings.

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Patrick Crowther | 18 December 2010 - 7:49pm

Is it in yet ?

Has postie been ?

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Doods | 22 December 2010 - 10:29pm

Not yet...

I've had a bad day post-wise today. I made a book of my photographs online, ordered it from the USA and the company I used sent me someone else's order. Cheers for that...

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Patrick Crowther | 22 December 2010 - 11:14pm

I really like 'Gallhammer'

They're an all girl black metal band from Japan. At the Onset of the Age of Despair (below) sounds like it's being sung by a zombie.

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backwards7 | 18 December 2010 - 7:32pm

That's a great album

I love 'em.

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Grant | 18 December 2010 - 8:49pm

Welcome To Hell

An excellent record, streets ahead of what passes for Heavy Metal nowadays. Venom were amazing - an absolute wall of noise. My personal favourite: -

In The Dead Of The Night http://open.spotify.com/track/0ILRUIwxngJRXt5WBmHSiU

Meanwhile, who remembers their duet with Warhead on the album Pure Filth? This takes a lot of beating. Warning: halfway through, they all start swearing - enough to put Pete 'n' Dud to shame. Maybe they'd all been down the pub beforehand.

Not safe for anywhere.

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kinkywolfgang | 18 December 2010 - 7:46pm

I got 17

to the waaaay back up above Alphabet question and kinkywolfgang I own Voivod's Rrröööaaarrr , it seriously needs remastering

Solid Gold! to see another fan of the Vod

RIP Piggy a really great guitar player

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James Blast | 19 December 2010 - 1:49am

All those years ago

Back in my record shop days, it was considered that Rrröööaaarrr was the biggest racket that we had in the store. More so than Metallica, Napalm Death, Extreme Noise Terror and all of that cal. We had what were possibly the world's biggest domestic loudspeakers bolted to the wall (Wharfedale Airedale SPs - each one about the size of a domestic refrigerator) driven by a really powerful JVC amplifier. A touch of Venom followed by a soupçon of Voivod and it was like World War 3½* in there. Mmmm!

Warning: danger of structural damage

* Medium-obscure reference for all fans of bad music. Anybody? Anybody?

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kinkywolfgang | 19 December 2010 - 11:39am

Google says

William R. Strickland?

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James Blast | 19 December 2010 - 5:22pm

...Is Only The Name.

For those who are unaware of Mr Strickland...legend has it that he used to make his songs up on the spot. His 1969 Deram album William R. Strickland...Is Only The Name may just be the worst album ever made. Much of side 2 is taken up by a long musical-cum narrative entitled World War 3½. It has to be heard to believed. And the whole album is just him belting out the most unimaginable tosh, accompanying himself on the guitar.

It's on CD. Or it's at Rapidshare. Get some!

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kinkywolfgang | 19 December 2010 - 6:35pm

If Geoff Barton

were to read this thread, he would have but one thing to say:

WOOOARGH!!

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Ruff-Diamond | 19 December 2010 - 7:04pm
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