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"I've already got one, thanks"
Posted by Handsome.P.Wonderful on 15 October 2010 - 11:06am.
I've just been listening to the new Antony & the Johnsons album on Spotify and it occurs to me that I don't need to listen to AATJ ever again, because I've already got one of their (his) albums. The same applies to Björk, Badly Drawn Boy, Ron Sexsmith and Gorillaz. I have one album of each of these artists and I really don't feel any more of their music would make my life significantly better.
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Bah!
I thought this was going to be a thread about lying to Big Issue vendors.
Me too
..or maybe The Wedding Present. Fair point, mind.
But if you only had, say, Ron Sexsmith's debut album
You'd miss out on the pleasure of
Strawberry Blonde
Whatever It Takes
Seem to Recall
Gold In Them Hills
Former Glory
and much, much more.
I'm not saying you need the complete works of RS (though no doubt others would), but it's not a case of 'heard one, heard 'em all'. Retriever and Cobblestone Runway are worth having IMHO, at least.
That's EXACTLY what I was going to post
Cobblestone Runway and Other Songs are my favourite RS albums, FWIW.
Cobblestone Runway was the one that got me hooked.
Even as a non-believer I find the track God Loves Everyone deeply moving.
Sebastian, below - I probably feel the same way about Ron as you do about RT, but even then I find his albums need a few listens to bed in.
I wonder if this has something to do with being there from the beginning. Ron's fifth album was my entry point, and I've worked backwards (and forwards) from there.
On the other hand if I'd followed him from his debut then four albums on I might've found myself thinking, 'Still ploughing the same old furrow then...'
Started at the Beginning
From the self titled album although IIRC there was an earlier import from Canada.
After Whereabouts it was a case of "well that's nice but time to move on to something else".
Cobblestone Runway
I think it was on the release of this particular album that I reached my own decision that I really didn't have to own everything by an artist I admired. Other Songs and Wherabouts were both excellent and sufficient. An occasional track aside I haven't heard much to challenge this approach.
Since then I now do the same with most other artists who I like but can't imagine I'm missing much by not having their latest - Kate Rusby (mentioned later in this thread),Steve Earle, Natalie Merchant and Show of Hands spring to mind.
Exceptions to the rule - RT, Wilco and Joe Pernice.
To anyone but the committed fan,
can't most bands can be summed up with 1 or 2 essential albums? Maybe the question should be: which artists have more 3 or more essential albums in their canon? Aside the obvious acts (Bowie, Beatles, Dylan etc), I suspect it's not that many.
Of the 80-odd Zappa albums
at least half are good enough to interest even the casual listener and there are maybe 10-15 five star albums among them.
Pink Floyd
Are another:
Piper
Meddle
DSoTM
Wish you were here
Animals
The Wall
All different, all essential to "get" the sense of the band
This is exactly the argument
This is exactly the argument my brother made to me when I came home with "Meat Is Murder". As far as he was concerned, since we had their first album we "had The Smiths"*.
It was only then I noticed the pattern that had emerged in his record buying; "Tin Drum" for the Japan sound, "Lexicon Of Love" for the ABC sound, "High Land, Hard Rain" for the Aztec Camera sound, "Treasure" for the Cocteau Twins sound...
Two things here
1. IMHO his four albums are the finest by those artists. You need to keep up a very high hit rate of career best LPs to pursue this policy.
2. In the case of very many artists he is correct. Like Mr P Wonderful I think Antony and Gorillaz keep minikng the same seam.
Other artists even make a virtue of this (We had "Back In Black" and "Ace Of Spades" too)
Dexy's would be a favourite band of mine from this time. One of the things that makes them special is how each of their albums is very different while nonetheless maintaining their essential "dexysness". Plus there are only three to collect.
*I realise as their first LP is called "The Smiths" this sentence is ambiguous, I can't help it that it was with this band he chose to make his case.
And I thought it was going to be
the sort of thing a rude Frenchman might say to King Arthur when asked the whereabouts of the Holy Grail.
But I do think the OP makes a good point. There are many artists who either never improve on an earlier album, or who keep on making the same album over and over.
it's all about the songs
I sort of get what the OP is saying, and indeed mojo directly above. To me, though, it comes down to the songs. If a songwriter keeps writing Bloody Good Songs, I'll still want to hear them, even if the sound isn't radically different to what's gone before. I don't listen to Ron Sexsmith for anything other than his voice singing his songs. If you'd stopped after his first two albums (which are wonderful), you'd have missed out on Retriever, which is just as great if not better. If you'd thought, after enjoying Gillian Welch's first album, that you didn't need to hear any more (not that I'm knocking that view), you'd have denied yourself the pleasure of the truly magnificent Time (The Revelator). And so it goes.
Of course, there are plenty of performers who only have one or two albums worth of good songs, and there's clearly not much point in continuing to buy their stuff after that.
Costello
I'm a fan, a big fan of the 77-86 period, and I have a few of the later albums too, but I can almost create a Costello album in my head now and not be too surprised when I hear the real thing.
Lambchop
While I would argue that every home should have at least two, Nixon and Is a Woman, and I'd be tempted to add Aw C'Mon/No ou C'mon, any more than that and it's likely you'll be driven to hating them by the sheer saminess of them all.
But their earlier albums
But their earlier albums (How I Quit Smoking, Thriller etc) have a more distinctly countryish vibe as opposed to the later slightly more soul/lounge feel of those mentioned above. Plus you'd miss out on their best song IMO (fan video warning):
Anyway, I don't really mind bands sounding the same as long as they don't sound too much like anyone else.
Kate Rusby
I rather feel this way about my Kate Rusby albums. "Hourglass" sounds very much like "Sleepless", which sounds very much like "Little Lights", which sounds very much like "Undernesth the Stars". I stopped buying them after that.
Much as I love her
I agree. This is the best example so far. There is little difference between any of her albums, although they are of consistently high quality. Even from song to song you can get a bit lost sometimes, as her voice doesn't vary much (as beautiful as it is).
Keep on keepin' on
We moan about how everything sounds the same, and then when someone comes along who sounds like nobody else, we complain if they don't do it again by the next album.
It's all rather strange. The requirement to constantly "explore" and "progress" is only ever applied to pop and rock. Nobody complains that Eliades Ochoa on Afrocubismo sounds exactly like he sounded on Buena Vista and every other recording he's made over his 50-year career. Yet we tut at Antony Hegarty because he's "going nowhere" after only three albums.
We treat musicians like fashion designers. As long as their latest collection is different from what was in last season, they're OK. Whether it's any good or not is then only a secondary consideration.
But watching
an artist or especially a band grow is the real pleasure, The Beatles up to Abbey road, Led Zep up to Physical Graffiti, The Stones up to Exile etc. After thatthe releases become superfluous. It's much harder for modern bands to achieve this though & is usually all over by the scond album.
"The Beatles up to Abbey Road"
In effect their entire career. Let It Be being recorded before but released after Abbey Road.