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iTunes Match is up and running folks

tkdmart's picture

I've paid my £21.99 and am in the process of being 'matched'

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what is it?

Pray tell, what is this iTunes match of which you speak?

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Curtis from Ohio | 15 December 2011 - 11:51pm

Is it something that will help me...

find a woman who likes Supertramp?

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Patrick Crowther | 15 December 2011 - 11:54pm

More likely to find you a tramp...

... who likes Superwoman.

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Billybob Dylan | 16 December 2011 - 12:02am

You have about as much chance of finding a woman

who likes Supertramp as I ever had of finding a woman who likes Emerson Lake and Palmer. However I have now been married for 23 years and have never even suggested to my wife that she listen to ELP.

We do however share a liking for The Band, Ry Cooder, The HJH and a whole lot of other music.

Some things just have to be enjoyed, consumed or otherwise appreciated in private with - er, oneself

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Mousey | 16 December 2011 - 10:17am

I've got one of those

IE A woman who likes ELP more than I do. She made me go to see them in Victoria Park last year.

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Martin Simmonds | 16 December 2011 - 10:22am

Me too fella!

Currently playing vinyl while it sets itself up though :-)

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grac | 16 December 2011 - 12:06am

I don't really get...

...despite being fully wrapped up in the iTunes world, how this is better for me.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding it, but it apparently downloads the tracks you choose to listen to direct to my device. If this is the case, how is that different from loading up my iPhone and then choosing what to leave off when I want something new. Once the device is full I can't download anything new until I free up some space, either way. Am I getting this ?

Also, as the cloud-stored tracks are 256k files, and downloaded at that bit-rate, I'll get LESS music on my iPhone than I do now as I store music in iTunes at 320k but transfer it to my phone at 128k.

Am I missing some wow advantages to this ?

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ainsley009 | 16 December 2011 - 12:32am
Martin Simmonds | 16 December 2011 - 10:07am

Server crash.

Signed up this morning. It's doing its thing in the background, uploading 2000 or so songs that it couldn't match.

Trouble is, since I did it, my Apple ID has stopped working. I can't log into my iTunes account. I can't activate Match on any of my iDevices. I can't use the App Store.

Having calmed down and searched Twitter and Google, it looks like this is a widespread server crash. Probably their authentication servers, since the actual Match process is still happening.

Still, absolute bush league shit.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1292403

So, in short, if you were considering Match, I wouldn't try doing it today.

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Bob | 16 December 2011 - 10:29am

So you pay for

Itunes to become even more annoying. Bargain.

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MrSib | 16 December 2011 - 10:22am

Don't understand.

I don't think it makes iTunes more annoying. How do you figure?

Don't get me wrong, I think the server outage is crap, but the service itself is a great principle.

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Bob | 16 December 2011 - 10:24am

I just hate Itunes

And the way it makes you play and store music the way it wants and not the way you want. Every time i turn it on it has to update. It takes an ages to sort music. It's really the most awful music software ever invented.
But then again i'm amazed how so many music lovers use ipods when they sound so flat and horrible when compared to other MP3 players.

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MrSib | 16 December 2011 - 10:44am

Fair enough.

I must have stupid ears, because my iPods have always sounded fine. But then, what do I know? I can't hear the difference between FLAC and 320 MP3 either (*whispers* because there isn't any).

I still don't follow how having your iTunes library in the cloud adds to the perceived annoyingness of the software, though. Fair enough if you don't like iTunes, plenty don't and I hear it's a proper pain in the arse on Windows. I just don't see why this feature makes it worse.

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Bob | 16 December 2011 - 11:46am

It's another annoying update that'll take far to long.

Any how this service is free on Google music or you could just sign up to Dropbox.

And Ipods really do sound shocking compared to creatives/Sony players. Really flat and life less.

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MrSib | 16 December 2011 - 11:53am

Alright.

*shrugs*

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Bob | 16 December 2011 - 12:02pm

I spent the best part of three months

uploading around 20k tracks to Google Music in the summer and then when I connected music manager a few weeks ago it has now decided that I am only entitled to 13k. Not sure why but it is a bit galling when I already pay for 80gb of Google storage to upload photos etc. onto Picasa.

I like the concept of Match but anything which forces me to use ITunes for Windoze more than I need to is a worry.

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GunsOfBrixton | 16 December 2011 - 12:39pm

How do you know

Have you tried it?

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Leedsboy | 16 December 2011 - 3:18pm

Usually wise

To leave these things to settle down for a few days before diving in. The Apple UK site is barely advertising the service and the servers must be struggling to keep up with all the early adopters.
It'll probably be like this throughout the weekend. I'll leave it for a few days.

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Martin Simmonds | 16 December 2011 - 10:28am

Is it much different

from something like Audiogalaxy?

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jimmyshoes01 | 16 December 2011 - 10:40am

Update.

The Apple ID outage appears to be fixed. My iPhone is now accessing the cloud perfectly.

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Bob | 16 December 2011 - 11:48am

But It Is Limited To A Max 25,000 Songs In Your iTunes Library

A bit of bugger for people of a certain age who have more than the limit!

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mikeo | 16 December 2011 - 12:34pm

So when it says

"iTunes Match stores your entire music library in iCloud...", that is factually incorrect for those with more than 25k songs. How do these companies get away with this?

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GunsOfBrixton | 16 December 2011 - 12:44pm

More info.

I just read on MacWorld that it won't actually let you sign up if you have more than 25k tracks in your iTunes library.

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GunsOfBrixton | 16 December 2011 - 2:19pm

seems

like all these cloud things are restricted to small storage - i'll stick to backing up on external hard drives until they let larger libraries in.

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mdavies27 | 16 December 2011 - 1:03pm

External/Portable hard drives are so big and so cheap these days

that I genuinely can't see the point of services like iTunes Match.

My entire music library still fits on a 1TB disk on my server. This is Time Machined onto a second 1TB drive and, if I need to take it with me anywhere, I sync it with a portable 'Passport' disk which fits in my pocket.

If any of these disks fails, they cost less than a tank of petrol to replace.

What would I gain from going 'cloud'?

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stimpy | 16 December 2011 - 2:43pm

I back up everything in the cloud

It's cheap, I don't lose anything if my flat is burgled/burnt down/carried away by a tornado, and I can access my files from anywhere, at any time, from any device, without having to carry a disc around. This suits me.

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Fraser Lewry | 16 December 2011 - 2:49pm

What he said ^

The idea of having all my stuff on a local disk, regardless of how portable, has made me very nervous for some time. I won't have more than 25,000 tracks in my collection for at least another 10 years. So iTunes Match suits me down to the ground.

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Bob | 16 December 2011 - 3:04pm

I'm with you in general

although I can think of one extreme example where somebody would gain from going cloud.

Last year, my parents' TV aerial was hit by lightning. It fried practically everything, and required most of the rather old electric wiring in their house to be redone.

Computer gone. External hard drive (which was connected) gone.

Mind you, given that their house narrowly escaped being burned down, my Dad was less fussed about losing rips of his own CDs than we're considering. (And he's not a downloader, so he has a physical disc copy of everything on his mp3 player.)

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Wardour | 16 December 2011 - 5:37pm

I'm still chuckling...

...at the idea that 25,000 songs is "small".

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Bob | 16 December 2011 - 3:11pm

Assuming

that each song is 4 minutes long and that you listen to each track once only. And you listen to music for 3 hours a day. It would only take you 556 days to get through 25,000 songs. Assuming that you don't buy any more that is. Or listen to a song twice. That's probably not what I'd call small.

Of course, if Colin H had 25,000 songs, it would take 2,224 days based upon each song being 12 minutes long on average.

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Leedsboy | 16 December 2011 - 3:25pm

regardless

of what is constued as small, why place a limit at all and as gunsofbrixton says, the header is misleading.

If you have gone to the trouble of putting all your cd's onto itunes and end up with more than 25,000 songs why would apple exclude such a small group of customers.

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mdavies27 | 16 December 2011 - 5:27pm

Probably

to make sure that they can size the storage and system requirements. I would expect the restriction to disappear over time but it makes sense to have one at the start. It's typical Apple - put in a control that is actually fairly sensible and then move on from there.

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Leedsboy | 16 December 2011 - 5:36pm

Particularly annoyed

that the 25000 limit is prohibitive. Sure, upload the last 25000 or something, but just to say 24999 yes, 25001 no is a bit silly.

Any workarounds that anyone knows of?

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jockblue | 16 December 2011 - 5:59pm
tonyg | 16 December 2011 - 10:05pm

Option Key

Thanks tonyg.

Any idea where on a PC I'd find the equivalent of an "option" key it refers to? Is it a Control Key in PCSpeak?

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jockblue | 16 December 2011 - 11:03pm

Highlight the Itunes icon

hold down the Shift key and press enter. Keep the Shift key down until the iTunes library option comes up.

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GunsOfBrixton | 17 December 2011 - 5:33pm

i'm sure there will be a few niggles

but to give it some perspective, I bought two rather splendid albums on vinyl from Piccadilly Records in Manchester yesterday morning for around £25.

Yesterday evening I paid a roughly similar amount for the ability to stream any track from my entire home iTunes library to my iPhone for a whole year.

I sat in a Starbucks today, opened up iTunes, and listened to an obscure track that was not there 24 hours earlier. Just because I could.

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tkdmart | 16 December 2011 - 6:52pm

How is this going for everyone?

I'm with Martin, as above, in that I normally leave a week or so for the early adopters to overwhelm the servers. I'm now about to hit 'go', assured that my miniscule iTunes library of 19,000 songs will pose no problems. Is anyone up and running? Happy enough? Used it "in the field", and what sort of results?

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Dadwardo | 19 December 2011 - 12:29am

Up and running

I only notionally heeded my own advice and kicked the process off on Saturday. Once it took the money it kicked itself into action. Eight hours later it was still on stage 2 of 3. I wondered how one could tell if it was working or not.

I use apple TV at home and so I logged onto that to see if anything had happened. Sure enough, the iCloud tab gave me a link to my music collection. Some of the tracks were greyed out, which were tracks it either couldn't find or tracks that it thought were duplicates.

My Mac was still chugging away in the front room and I left it on overnight to continue to do whatever it was doing.

Next morning, it was still chugging away on step 2 of 3 so I decided to interrupt with a reboot just in case.

Bottom line is that I think it’s completed the process. It's not very good at explaining what has happened, or indeed what you need to do with those icons that appear alongside rogue tracks that it has identified.

It’s difficult to tell what benefit it has actually created for me. Aside from being able to stream my music via Apple TV (without having to have my mac running) I've yet to see what benefit it has given (other than a back up). I didn’t have too many tracks that needed "legitimising" and I haven't studied it enough to see if the tracks I had encoded under the low bit rates back when ITunes first began have been upscaled as promised.

I enabled my iPhone to work with iMatch but I'm not sure that anything has happened as a result!

More investigations are needed clearly.

Anyone else found any benefits or worked out what happened next?

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Martin Simmonds | 19 December 2011 - 10:14am

Works fine - just slow at the beginning - one query

OK first things first, we are an Apple house so no idea how the dark side works. I started the process when the option first appeared in my iTunes menu.

I'm at 21000 or thereabouts, the iMatch found around 18000 in iTunes but then slogged for what seemed like days to get the rest up, probably a mix of early adopter crowd at the server, random crashes and my slow upload speed.

What is sexy is the way stuff magically appears everywhere - phone/pad/appletv/macbook etc. My free 12 days of Christmas presents from iTunes just pop up for download automatically. No need to carry old iPod everywhere, if the desperate need for a particular song occurs just download onto whatever device (probably the phone) is to hand.

My friends insist that I can't possibly need 21K of songs to carry but like others on this thread my 50 years of music collection makes the 21K a sample.

The query, what does Apple have against Dave Mason? iMatch won't accept Only You Know and I Know off Alone Together, I can understand the lack of match but why won't it upload - it isn't a duplicate.

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doctor.nacko | 30 December 2011 - 9:45am
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