Are you not watching the snooker?

I haven't listened to last weeks podcast yet.

...is a deliberately awful, fake live album by gloom rockers - Type O Negative, styled to resemble a bootleg recording, with the band playing to a hostile, but completely fictional audience.

The album opens with a 15 minute song titled: I Know You're F***ing Someone Else - actually a retitled version of a song called Unsuccessfully Coping With The Natural Beauty of Infidelity, which appeared on the band's debut album.

Pay? For music?? Never!
The following quote was printed last week on the wonderful "spEak You're bRanes" blog.
If you don't know it, it's a funny yet disturbing collection of the stupidest comments from the "Have Your Say" section of the BBC News website:

I have never bought a record, tape or a DVD/CD in my life. I have had a few bought for me but I refuse to give these so-called pop stars/singers any of my money. There is the radio for listening to music and that is as far as I take it.

I know of people who spend £40-£50 per month on music - quite frankly they are such sad people.

I have never even been to a music concert nor downloaded any music on the web. My money is for ME and not for others to live like lords on it.

Bob Jackson, Newport

As is pointed out in the blog, you also don't want to be lining the pockets of those fat cat farmers by buying food, now do you?

http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/

Not albums as such but on the same subject...

. Oasis/ I Am the Walrus -
surely one of the best Beatles covers of recentish years, it bears the legend 'Recorded live at the Glasgow Cathouse' in the brackets on the sleeve but was actually recorded before some delegates at a SONY music conference in Japan. The crowd noise was from the Faces 'A Nod's As Good As A Wink...' which leads on to..
. David Bowie/ Diamond Dogs -
i'm sure everyone knows the intro to this isn't live. again the noise is taken from that same Faces album.
. KLF's White Room -
none of the live tracks were live and the crowd reactions are all filtched from Ratle and Hum.
. Prince Sign O The Times (Movie) -
recorded on a soundstage and not actually taken from a real concert at all so the story goes.

I guess most 'live' albums are overdubbed and the like. Unless it states otherwise.

On the Gram Parsons album Grievous Angel the medley of Cash On The Barrelhead / Hickory Wind, supposedly live from North Quebec is another studio performance with audience overdub.
Back in the mid 70's Man put out a live album with Quicksilver's John Cippolina as a guest guitarist titled Maximum Darkness. However it turns out that Cippolina's guitar work wasn't very good and Micky Jones dubbed over him in the studio.
I'm not sure whether Take It Back on Cream's Disraeli Gears is truly live. Does anyone know one way or another?

Bonnie Raitt performed the solo in Angels when Robbie Williams appeared on Later...

but in this shop where they'll do you a copy of an out-of-print book, where is the data held? Do they have some sort of computer system with all the text on it?

The 13th Floor elevator Live is the first time I came across the live/not live dichotomy. As an impressionable Pebbles-obssessed 15 yr old it was hard work to get hold of any Elevators stuff in the early 80s, so when I found a copy of the aforementioned I was chuffed to bits. Imagine my surprise on finding it appeared to be an 8 track of the legendary first album played in a filing cabinet while a Kenwood mixer churned away on top. Did I rail against 'the Man' by drinking the best part of a bottle of Merrydown Silver after that or what?

Re. Eamonn's comment about buying the DVD vs seeing the movie - I have to disagree that 'owning' a film is better. As time goes by and becomes more precious, I for one simply can't be faffed with watching movies at home and I'd *much* rather go to the cinema. Better sound, no distractions and much more enjoyable.

I've now stopped buying films having lost count of the DVDs I've bought thinking "ooh, I'll watch that, well worth a few quid" only to find months later that I still hadn't found a 2 hour window to watch them. It's could be a lifestage thing - I loved watching films at home when I was a teenager/twenthysomething with little to do; now I'm fortysomething and fairly busy, I'd much rather do almost anything else with my time at home than watch a film. So, Cinema yes, DVD no...

... if I really, really want to see a new film I go to the cinema. Otherwise I wait for the dvd.

As regards "distractions" watching a dvd, just turn everything off.

I don't actually give a wet slap what happened to Darts and Mud per se (one assumes they are on an endless comeback tour with the Manhattan Transfer and Showaddywaddy) but I WAS wondering what happended to the CONCEPT of bands like Mud and Darts. Is anyone not taking themselves seriously these days?

This might have been mentioned already, but if so I didn't notice:
All Peel's Festive Fifties (as many tracks as possible) since '76 in Spotify form:
http://www.drownedinsound.com/news/4136745

The 1983 live Japan album Oil On Canvas (typically effete title for a live Japan album) is so beautifully and note-perfectly played, and the audience so almost totally mixed out, it surely qualifies for the most pointless live album of all time. I really love it, but it's pointless.

Can I gather support for the notion that Eamonn Forde is too interesting? While listening to his latest sage insights into the industry on public transport yesterday I had to keep stopping the podcast and rewinding it when the train noise drowned him out. This is most inconvenient. (Not that other podcast contributors aren't interesting, it's just that you can usually lose 30 seconds to background noise and pick up the conversation when it has died down. Not when EF is riffing.)

Surely the point in the Podcast was that "girls don't do solos" - absurdist nonsense. Of course Bonnie Raitt plays solos - it's just that they are compact, tasteful, elegant, appropriate to the song, using a gorgeous, lightly compressed "singing" slide tone that approaches the mighty Lowell George in subtlety.....

They are, however, still solos.

Les Gray - the singer died in 2004 - throat cancer I think. The drummer Dave Mount killed himself in 2006. Guitarist Rob Davis did actually join Darts for a while and is now a very successful songwriter - co-wrote that Spiller/Sophie Ellis Bextor hit Groovejet. Ray Stiles - the bassist plays with the Hollies or did last I heard.