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From Bewitched to Bruegel: it's the podcast with a cast of thousands

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ImageThis week's particularly action-packed podcast features Mark Ellen and Rob Fitzpatrick batting back and forth your questions on the BBC, bands dressed as monks, what happens to record reviews when you no longer get hard copies of CDs and Joe Bonamassa's new, "slimmer image". Plus special guest appearances from Mike "Seventies" Johnson (left, with Rob) and his fearsome rock spelling quiz in which you are challenged to set down those particularly demanding - not to say daft - band names with every letter and umlaut in place. And that's not the end of our cavalcade of talent. "Magic" Alex Gold does a cameo to furnish details of A Word In Your Ear, our gig on April 28th in the pub across the road (tickets available here) and the CD that comes with the next issue.

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Marvellous stuff...

But can I say that it's perfectly acceptable as far as I'm concerned talking about Pieter Bruegel the Elder... he was one hell of an artist.

OK... the rock spelling test. I got 6/11. Not too shabby...

I got questions 2, 6, 8, 10 and 11 wrong. Bugger.

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Patrick Crowther | 5 March 2010 - 8:13pm

I also got six right

but got 5, 6, 9, 10 and 11 wrong.

While I'm here, might I be so bold as to suggest that the podcast was recorded after a liquid lunch? It was rather loud and enthusiastic.

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renkadima | 5 March 2010 - 10:03pm

I noticed that too....

...but no drink had been taken. I can only put it down to the fact that the room was a bit colder than usual and the cast of thousands meant you had to fight to be heard.

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David Hepworth | 6 March 2010 - 3:37pm

I started off well, but fell

I started off well, but fell away badly towards the end (got numbers 6, 9, 10 & 11 wrong). I must say the podcast title steered me the wrong way regarding "Bewitched", a group I've never heard of.

Saw number 1 twice - Bristol 1975-ish - very loud & Swansea football ground 1976, on the Who tour along with the wonderful Little Feat & Alex Harvey - a lovely sunny day filled with good sounds.

Saw number 2 in Croydon (Greyhound rooms? probably not the Fairfield Hall but can't remember) - in about 1972.

Haven't seen any of the others so feel justified in not getting the dash in number 11.

Keep the great podcasts coming - I listen to them while pottering around the garden.

ApisPet

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ApisPet | 5 March 2010 - 10:15pm

I got 10

hardly any flies on me then. Got me umlauts right and everything

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Nick Duvet | 5 March 2010 - 11:01pm

Only got one wrong.

That was number ten. Mainly because I spelt their name with just four letters!

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JQW | 6 March 2010 - 12:05am

Not clear

If numbers 8 and 11 were considered correct in the old or modern spellings. Got the old fashioned version of 8 right and the modern version of 11 right. Apart from those got another six right, was pleased to guess the first two correctly, disappointed I mis-spelled Lionel Rich Tea.

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phlanth | 6 March 2010 - 1:40am

I laughed like a drain

while listening to the segment on bands like Circulus and Good Habit, but I was strangely disappointed no-one made mention of former Highway Star Hitmaker Ritchie Blackmore, seem here giving it the full Hey Nonny Nonny with his merry band of wandering minstrels:

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MichaelC | 6 March 2010 - 3:17am

Nah nonny no

That's the Albanian entry to the Eurovision Song Contest. In 1987.

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Beany | 6 March 2010 - 9:45am

A positive 7...

...out of 11.

I added the spelling test to the bottom of my shopping list which was the only convenient piece of paper to hand. This has given rise to a new game in which I imagine that the band names are the names of groceries.

Number two in your spelling challenge is obviously a vacuum-packed smoked meat product of Eastern European origin. Number eight - a medicinal lotion available over the counter, whose purpose is to assist the removal of unwanted body hair.

I am a sad man-child.

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backwards7 | 6 March 2010 - 8:43am

Was there ever a podcast 126?

Or am I missing an in-joke?

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Mr Fade | 6 March 2010 - 11:11am

I was wondering

about that myself! Fraser?

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Gramsci | 10 March 2010 - 5:40am

Our mistake

There will be.

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Fraser Lewry | 10 March 2010 - 7:30am

8

Would have been 9 had it not been for those pesky umlauts.

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Seamus | 6 March 2010 - 12:47pm

7 out of 11

And I hung my head in shame.

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Lucas Hare | 6 March 2010 - 1:27pm
David Hepworth | 6 March 2010 - 3:39pm

Merely 5

… but in my defence I'd never knowingly heard of four of the acts.

I've seen Circulus, although for a while I was confusing them with Comus as I saw them both at the same festival.

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Dr Yang | 6 March 2010 - 9:37pm

Good Habit/Racing Cars

As I remember, the lead singer was Morty. The roadie was his brother, and his juggling skills were a feature of both bands' gigs.

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Freddie Owen | 6 March 2010 - 9:51pm

Racing Cars

I last saw them as pickup band for Bo Diddley around 1984. Bo was great. They weren't.

Spelling - 8/11. Helped by being interrupted while listening to the podcast and having half an hour to have a ponder on the specific weird spellings.

[Wrong umlaut layout in 2, schoolboy error in 3, shambles of 10.]

Good energetic podcast - obviously Letterman's temperature theory works!

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el hombre malo | 8 March 2010 - 1:45pm

I'm impressed with myself

a respectable 9/11. As seems to be the common trend, got numbers 2 and 10 wrong.

I miss the denim-clad rascallish Irish pop imps as mentioned in the spelling test. Just me? Ah, right so

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Joe R | 8 March 2010 - 3:26pm

Just for you Joe....

Keavey, my unrequited love....


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Six Dog | 8 March 2010 - 3:38pm

Hooray!

I was an avid reader of Smash Hits around this time, music of my youth and all that. I'll also admit to owning the first album.

*sigh* For a brief time in 1998, I thought they were the greatest group that had ever existed. Then, of course, came the "difficult second album", and I was in my teens by then, so the love affair ended, but I still hold a candle for them. Obviously, I was then into "real music" and all that rubbish didn't fit in with my blink-182 and Green Day CDs

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Joe R | 8 March 2010 - 4:05pm
Chimney Singing... | 10 March 2010 - 6:05pm

Just before their album came out...

I used to chat to the twins on a weekly basis. While waiting for (fleeting) stardom) they house-shared in the town I lived in, Egham, and worked in the local teeny Tescos on the checkouts! Honest!

Being of Irish extraction, seeing two identical Irish twins on the tills every week attracted the attention og me and my wife and banal conversation naturally ensued. Never mentioned any of their musical activities - or if they did I can't recall it. Of course, a couple of months later they were all over the telly and their house-share was being bombarded by hoards of screaming prepubsecend girl fans. So much so that they had to move out and seek refuge in a local posh hotel. Twas front page of all the local papers for many a week!

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Trevor_Raggatt | 12 March 2010 - 8:01am

Bah!

9/11, 2 and 10 stumped me (I'd forgotten it was "zee" not "si" and I got the umlauts wrong).

If I remember rightly, Shakespear's Sister were so called because they had their name made up in woodcuts and the artist missed out the "e" at the end, so they took that name so as not to hurt their friend's feelings. This is a memory retained since the Barry McIlheney Smash Hits years though (I was 12), so it could be all wrong.

Great podcast this week.

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John Allison | 8 March 2010 - 3:51pm

BBC Four on the spot

Paxman putting Thompson on the spot about BBC Four WAS funny and cringeworthy,but not a little cuntish at the same time. The "bought in film" that he referred to so dismissively was "The Lives of Others" NO LESS! A T.V premier ,i believe, for the Oscar-winning best foriegn language film of 2006! Utterly compelling,excoriatingly tense,never likely to appear on ITV..possibly on Channel Four,but fucked up thereby with ADVERTS!
Paxman's piss-take of BBC Four,with Kelvin ("the Sun wot won it") Mckenzie laughing in the background did none of us any favours in this context...The "Skippy" doc' was also the perfect,if incidental complement to the then current Collins and Herring podcast of their 6music show...fnar fnar
paxo

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chrismorrell | 8 March 2010 - 8:10pm

Indeed

and didn't the last two iPlayer recommendations from the Friday Word newsletter come from BBC4. After all one man's Skippy Night is another's Richard Thompson [no relation ...]... and after BBC4 comes Radio 3, which Kelvin might not be a big fan of either ...

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SpaceBoy | 8 March 2010 - 8:33pm

Well said.

Bit mystified that Paxo didn't go after BBC3 instead of BBC4, making me wonder if he actually knows what BBC4 is. Not that I'm a fan of Skippy particularly...

I supposet it's highly unlikely Paxo or Thompson have time to watch that much TV.

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Mr Fade | 8 March 2010 - 8:44pm

Ex fuckin zactly

That's right ..wrong target Newsnight... "Skippy" just provided a pair of severed paws with which to beat Thompson...It's BBC 3 that is the epitome of "doing what the commercial sector does anyway" ie: trite, purient,"i screwed my daughter's boyfriend" /"arse-swap" bollox" the clue was in the number Paxo... 4! ..like radio four!?
BBC Four,like 6music is,in fact largely the epitome of the "public service remit".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/consultations/departments/bbc/bbc-strategy...

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chrismorrell | 9 March 2010 - 12:04am

Paxo actually did the same schtick

with BBC a few years ago. Not sure of the circs then, but this was another BBC repeat.

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badartdog | 9 March 2010 - 1:24pm

Re: the discussion about

Re: the discussion about companies no longer sending out hard copies - I heard Lauren Laverne mention the other day that record companies now refer to release dates instead as 'impact' dates - which seems to me another one of these hideous, meaningless phrases!

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Paul Cunningham | 8 March 2010 - 11:29pm

A crash of symbols

In several cases you seem to be conflating correct spelling, which should be encouraged, with mere typographical conceits, which certainly shouldn't.

First, Mark and Seventies don't need to "impose [their] own conventions" on the K.D. Lang issue. It was addressed many years ago in typical that's-that-settled-then style by the mighty Bill Walsh, who gets to decide on such things for the Washington Post.

Your credit card may say VISA, your athletic shoes may say NIKE or adidas, but this is just because the companies chose an all-caps or all-lowercase presentation for the brand names. That doesn't mean you write the words that way, any more than you would write WEBSTER'S NEW UNIVERSAL UNABRIDGED DICTIONARY just because that's what it says on the spine.

And the same goes for Wham's screamer. "Wham!" may be what it said on the tin (although inside the tin it didn't, as it happens), but this looks so irredeemably lame

Who was George Michael's bandmate in Wham!?

that you half-expect it to be followed by LOLZ ROFLMAO!!!!!! :DDDDD.

Menswear's "@" sign, Motorhead's umlaut (also ignored on the actual record labels), ABBA's mirrored "B", AC/DC's lightning-flash slash... in every case it's not a spelling issue at all but just a daft bit of business in a logo.

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Archie Valparaiso | 9 March 2010 - 12:37pm

If only life were that simple...

Walsh claims...

before "k.d. lang" there was "e.e. cummings." But, as most good dictionaries (in the latter case) and New York Times style (in both cases) recognize, these are logos. The names are K.D. Lang and E.E. Cummings.

Of course, a quick Google reveals that the New York Times appear quite happy to spell "lang" two different ways - indeed, Walsh should probably have a word with some of his own staff. And cummings is spelt both ways at the NYT too. Meanwhile The Times spell Motorhead both with umlauts and without, and the BBC do the same with the Wham screamer. Even the record label featured the ! from time to time - just as Motorhead's umlauts weren't entirely ignored (they're here, on their first single, for instance).

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Fraser Lewry | 9 March 2010 - 3:04pm

See!

Turn your back for a second and the Forces of Evil maraud all over your style sheet!

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Archie Valparaiso | 9 March 2010 - 5:27pm

I'm with Walsh

It's up to a publication whether it indulges, say, adidas its case preferences but if you're writing a sentence that starts with the brand name, then, regardless of house style, it's "Adidas have announced half-yearly profits of..." otherwise the brand-marketeers who knocked up the logo on the back of a napkin in 10 minutes of a multi-bottle lunch have won. And that way lies anarchy. Or do I mean An@rchy? Or an Archie…?

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Stan Halen | 10 March 2010 - 3:23am

If you're going to get picky

it's 'Adidas has'

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IanP | 11 March 2010 - 8:31pm

Has/have

It all depends on aforementioned house style. For instance, I favour "judgment" but wouldn't criticise "judgement".

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Stan Halen | 12 March 2010 - 3:58am

Cripes

It's the Pedants' Revolt!

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David Hepworth | 10 March 2010 - 11:39pm

Who led the Pedants Revolt?

Which Tyler.

(I heard this joke some years ago on, of course, Radio Four.)

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another Iain | 12 March 2010 - 1:33pm

Just listened ...

... very enjoyable.

However, some clarification about the Lennon commercial. It is not his voice, it is an actor (who sounds like he comes from Manchester), dubbed badly on to the Lennon film.

The whole thing is diabolical.

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dai | 11 March 2010 - 7:23pm

The most suprising thing is that

The spelling of B*Witched, according to the podcast on which the thread is based, has been mispelled in the thread title!

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art vanderlay | 12 March 2010 - 1:49pm

I presumed it was deliberate

to throw spelling quiz competitors off the scent.

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another Iain | 12 March 2010 - 1:52pm

Excuse me but ...

A quick round of applause for Seventies Mike's beard, surely?

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Andrew_Collins | 15 March 2010 - 7:26am

And Rob Fitzpatrick's rather belated audition for the part of...

Barry the Hatchet, a villain in The Sweeney.

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Patrick Crowther | 15 March 2010 - 9:52am

Re: the death of the promo CD

Aren't they free of packaging in most cases?

I think you are doing Circulus a disservice by ridiculing their garb without saluting the accompanying medieval space rock:

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clarker | 30 March 2010 - 10:52am
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