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It's the first annual Word Reader Awards ceremony
Posted by The Word on 25 October 2010 - 3:31pm.
We're thrilled to be able to announce that the first annual Word Reader Awards ceremony will take place on Friday 26th November 2010.
It goes without saying that we'd like you to attend - after all, you might win something! Because unlike those publications who hand out gaudy baubles to the any passing stars who happen to turn up at their annual gatherings, our awards will be won by our readers, to recognize the contributions they've made to the website and magazine throughout the year.
Venue: Upstairs at The Compass, 58 Penton Street, London N1 9PZ.
Watch this space for further details.










Okay then...
NORTH - WEST MASSIVE ASSEMBLE!
Who wants to go and how do we want to get there? Coachload? Individual train tickets?
Thanks Grant
We realise that hosting this event in London means serious expenditure and commitment for anyone who doesn't live in the capital and wishes to attend, but we'd love to see members of any of the Northern Massives at the event, and I'm sure the locals will make you feel welcome.
Suffice to say, this is the first event of its kind we've hosting, so London was really the only option - our caution extends to using a pub located not more than 200 metres from the office.
Damn
I'm washing my hair that night.
Sod it. Put me down for the minibus/stretched limo. I'll get a dogsitter.
Unfortunately The Squeezers are not made of money
so although I understand that everything* in the Wordiverse revolves around that London,we are forever going to be second class denizens.Which kind of pisses me off.Have a good time y'all.
*With the exception of Fraser.
It would be great if the event was a bit further north...
but I guess it's a fact of life that it wouldn't fill a venue outside of London. I wonder whether there's any way northern non-attendees could take part? I'm sure I could set up a video link from Ashby de la Zouch.
If you book now
you'll find even first class is £30 return or thereabouts.
Thirty quid?
When I were a lad, you could 'ave a bloody great Ball in house in t'country and a coach 'n' four fer every booger there fer thirty quid an' still 'ave change fer t'coachmans' tips. Aaah, young people terday etc.
The trouble with that is
the last train oop North is a preposterously early 9.30pm (Dicky Branson & Railtrack clearly made a deal with hotels in the Euston Area) by which time I dare say things will just be getting going and Chrissy Hynde's special vegetarian Foie Gras won't have been served yet.
Perhaps the NW Massive can appear by Video Link-up! Will confer with t'Northern Massive via Grant to discuss the options.
Count me in!
Geography means that a minibus probably isn't an option, but I find the Branson Express a dependable steed - with handy stops at Lancaster and Warrington.
And the winner is...
Captain Underpants...!
Alas
The smoke of burning boats lies thick upon Camp Underpants tonight.
But thanks, Retro. I'll nominate you for the Frank Sinatra Most Comebacks Award
If there's an award for...
...either killing threads stone dead or rushing breathlessly into a discussion that's been dead for days with a rubbish pun, can I nominate myself?
B7
Swept the board...etc
Will there be an award...
for most double-posts, I wonder ? I'm surely a front runner.
I think you'll find...
that I'm the front runner
I think you'll find...
that I'm the front runner
If I come down for this...
my wife's going to think I'm having an affair. She already doesn't believe I'm coming down to see the Divine Comedy. Could someone from Word HQ write me a note?
The Word
A magazine, a podcast, a bit on the side.
A foolproof plan _and_ an
A foolproof plan _and_ an airtight alibi.
Deer Missus Wonderfull
We are all serius jernalists what lives in the smoke, and it wood be grate if yore husband could come to are party, ah, awarrds seremony that is cummin up soon. pleeze alloww him to attned,a s he mite just win something. Or at least have adrink with, er, no. there is no alcohool involved. Miss mussman isn't goin to be ther either. No tia marea alloud. It will be serius and very sober, i promis you.
Your,s Davi Hopworth
Sorre abowt the spellin, I yousually yuse the spellcheck, but this is sent frum my blockberry, on witch I cantt get it too werk.
Dear David...
Thanks for the note. For some strange reason she is even more suspicious. She now thinks I'm having an affair with an illiterate alcoholic.
Thanks for trying.
Yours in absentia
Handsome
I'm definitely not going to be able to make it
My wife has always loved singing, but had a terrible singing voice. I read somewhere that almost everyone can be trained to sing to a reasonable standard, so, three years' ago, I bought her some singing lessons as a Christmas present. She has improved to such an extent that she is singing in her first concert on 26 November. This concert is only in a village hall near Burton, but for my wife this is a big deal. It goes without saying that my life would not be worth living if I chose to hang out with my Word chums rather than support my wife at a major milestone in her life.
If any of the East Midlands Massive are stuck for something to do on 26 November, and have a penchant for light opera and Songs from the Shows, let me know and I'll give you the address.
And the award for
going beyond the call of duty goes to........Handsome.P.Wonderful!
What would the categories be?
I shall be pleased to accept the Apple fanboi award
The boxset is amazing, Ravi Shankar, Mary Hopkin, The King of Fuh ...what? ... oh ... I see.
As you were
I keep threatening...
... to come to a Word Massive occasion, so - cost permitting - I'll see what I can do.
Is it going to be an all-ticket event? I don't want to book a train ticket now and find I can't actually get in.
No
We're hoping the room will accommodate all those who wish to attend.
Tardistastic
Will Amy Pond be there?
I hope there's a Golden Cleric award
Can we expect a red carpet?
and crush barriers?
Black tie
Guinea fowl, perspex trophies, loyal toast (Ladies and Gentlemen: The Crowther!), Michael McIntyre, carriages at two?
Ooh, that sounds fun
I'm not going to be able to make it though. Can you put me down for a strip of raffle tickets though please?
Yep the winners gets
a "tray of meat" plucked at random from Fraser's deep freeze. So the lucky winner can look forward to iguana cutlets, chamois loin and some lovely dugong kidneys!
Dugong Kidneys
TMFTL etc
Can you get Clare Grogan...
to present the awards? Failing that, I hear Mick Fleetwood and Sam Fox are free that evening.
I want Kylie for the floorshow
You said it was a big room, right ?
That sounds...
... like a mashup with Blue Monday
and indeed it was meant to be that version
---from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Kylie
I'm sure the Aspidistra awards will have a similarly memorable soundtrack ...
Surely...
...a Grogan-Ellen-Mossman triumverate would fill every seat and soothe every furrowed brow?
Oh Word people I am intrigued!
And indeed keen. I shall watch this space indeed.
The awards need a name
like The BAFTAs, The Oscars etc. Can I suggest "The Fuckwits".
How About The Justins Or The Curries ?
I'll get my coat
The Moon Sausages
Or 'The Bentos'
No, no
it has to be 'The hatstands'.
The Aspidistras surely?
"Look dear, I've been given an aspidistra"
Double post - apologies
Oops
Flogging an old joke
Surely 'Massive Member of the Year'?
But surely the Massive Member of the Year...
has to be Lenny Law. I mean, given that "having a Lenny" is common parlance on the board...
I don't believe we have -
or indeed want* - any evidence as to Lenny's massiveness...
*Please, Lenny, no!
Surely...
The Word Awards Thingie.
The TMFTLs
That's the tmmfuttles. Easy for me to say.
award names
Surely the Hora's
The HORA...
Hoary Old Reader Award.
The entertainment includes ...
Should there be need of a prize draw on the night may I suggest the use of a bag of harmonica's I think there maybe one the Belfast Child no longer uses
Who you
calling a hoar?
Sounds like I'm housebound that night.
Mrs L is working a late one so unless she can do a shift-swap with someone, I'm supervising the sprog.
Who's hosting things? Billy Crystal? Stephen Fry? Do we all have to send in videotaped teary acceptance speeches, just in case?
MC
There is one, and only one, candidate. STEP UP, EAMONN FORDE! (In a tux. And a pith helmet.)
in any kind of helmet
In just a helmet?
*swoons*
*passes smelling salts*
"Housebound"
Lenny - everything you write has a bloody euphemism for your favourite hobby in it.
Eh?
Since when has "Housebound" been used to describe macrame?
Gussie Fink-Nottle?
Bookings are down, understandably, since the Market Snodsbury debacle. But, hey, the guy could use a break.
I'll start penning my
"you black balling bastards!" loser's speech now
I nominate Carol From Luton...
...but seriously.... this is a fascinating and noble-hearted idea, all at Word. It really IS thinking outside the box. And it's amazing anybody takes those other magazine awards seriously ("And tonight's award for Mojo Cult Hero Icon Legend Contribution To Diamond Geezer Only Bloke We Could Get When All The A and B Listers Were Unable To Attend goes to.... er, er, who's that at table 7... er, weren't you once in Blossom Toes? No? Er, a legendary between-labels unrecorded line-up of Medecine Head? Er, yes, you, sir! It's for you!!!!"
I vote you give everything to Backwards and then just use the rest of the evening to have a bit of cameraderie and fun.
Living on another island with no passport and an anitpathy to plane travel I'll not be there. But I WILL try and armtwist Carol From Luton to represent us both. (Unless she's attending either an English Defence League rally or an Islamification Of Britain training camp - which according the Times today encompass between them more or less all the opportunities for getting out and meeting people in the Luton area.)
I nominate Carol From Luton...
...but seriously.... this is a fascinating and noble-hearted idea, all at Word. It really IS thinking outside the box. And it's amazing anybody takes those other magazine awards seriously ("And tonight's award for Mojo Cult Hero Icon Legend Contribution To Diamond Geezer Only Bloke We Could Get When All The A and B Listers Were Unable To Attend goes to.... er, er, who's that at table 7... er, weren't you once in Blossom Toes? No? Er, a legendary between-labels unrecorded line-up of Medecine Head? Er, yes, you, sir! It's for you!!!!"
I vote you give everything to Backwards and then just use the rest of the evening to have a bit of cameraderie and fun.
Living on another island with no passport and an anitpathy to plane travel I'll not be there. But I WILL try and armtwist Carol From Luton to represent us both. (Unless she's attending either an English Defence League rally or an Islamification Of Britain training camp - which according the Times today encompass between them more or less all the opportunities for getting out and meeting people in the Luton area.)
I'm in.
If only because you're going to need burly chaps to hoist B7 aloft and carry him, whooping, through the streets of Islington. Aren't you Word types nice?
If I come all the way over from Sweden for this ceremony,
do I get some form of special prize like, oh, a Mars bar or a one-minute shopping spree in Fopp?
I live in Stockholm mate and I tell you what
I will if you will.
This could be brilliant or it could be an absolute train wreck, I almost think I need to see it live.
Here's a travel tip.
If you come from Sweden, don't whatever you do travel Ryan Air (if that is even an option), as I can assure you that it would only take a 30 second shopping spree in Fopp for your return Ryan Air baggage allowance charges to exceed the retail value of your loot, even if it had been purchased in Iceland with a Nigerian Credit Card.
I speak as a man who's wife is currently ensconced in The Emerald Isle, courtesy of Mr O'Lairy, and she is expecting nothing but grief on her return to these shores (as usual), should she have purchased anything more than a new pair of delicate earrings.
Count me in!
Oooooh sounds ace
I said...
I'd pluck up the courage for the next meet, so will try and brave this one.
Is there any chance you could get Jarvis Cocker to wave his arse around at some point?
Or at least arrange a glass of something to be thrown over John Prescott?
HURRAH!
See you there JoLean!
(and while I'm here, may I point you in this direction for another future meet-up...)
I'd love to be there
but I have managed to Bilko my way to 2 London meetups this year and this is a meet too far.
Hope you all have a great time
Will there be a "Reader's Award"?
Like the PFA Players' Player of the Year?
Reader of the Year, as chosen by the Readers? "I'll cherish this award above all the others. It means a lot to have been chosen by my peers. They know what goes into earning this kind of achievement" - it would be a great acceptance speech.
But, but
How eggsactly do you define the best reader?
Would it be the one who reads The Word quickest? Or who understands every big word? How about a reading-aloud-competition-in-the-best-plummy-voice reader.
Surely we could only vote for the best blogger. And don't call me...
I'm free that night
and would love to come along and see as many of you as possible.
Looking forward to 'I'd like to thank my producer' speeches from Captain Hannah Backwards-Idiot.
I shall not be able to attend
But I will be sending my fridge.
I wish I was there .
Sadly that night I return to the stage ( after what many may feel has been a far too brief absence of 5 years ) to compere a gig . I hope everyone has a great time and I will raise a toast to a great bunch of bods .
Maybe Fraser could book it here....
I'm up for it.
What a grand idea
I shall be pressing my tux in anticipation.
Can you get Chris Moyles to host*
Then tell him you've sent his paycheck to BBC Payroll.
And don't send it.
Just for a laugh, like.
*I really don't mean this.
Sounds Great
impossible for me but have a great night one and all
Without wishing to put a dampener on it...
If it is the same venue as that used for True Stories, which I think it is, it not just seriously small, it is tiny. So before making your plans and booking stuff, you might wish to consider whether more than coachload of readers can even fit in the venue....and that's a small coach
Up to 150 people
according to the website.
Sadly I won't be one of the 150 - it's a bitch of a journey from Sydney.
For the benefit of
foreigners, ex-pats and northeners, I do hope there will be a podcast of this spectacle at least ?
Tremendous idea
I have contacts at Sanatogen if you are in need of a sponsor.
Would love to be there
But Toronto is far away.
(slyly checks late Nov flights to Heathrow and remembers dangerously ill distant relative to have alibi for wife)
Unfortunately I can't be there with you
Can I send a video instead?
I'd like to thank...
...God...
and everyone else connected with my album Muthafugging Gangsta Drive-by Niggaz With A Very Poor Attitude Indeed.
Know am sayin'?
Best International Act
If like the Brits etc, there's a presentation via live video link to the best international act, please can we request it's not handed over by Bonio......
Would love to be there, but a little far to come. Have fun.
Sycophancy alert
Can I just say that I can think of no other magazine that is this involved with its readers. Regularly turning up at Reader meets, the True Stories evenings, specially arranged gigs, setting B7's Britpop poem to a narration by Steve Lamacq...plus the small matter of podcasts, specially compiled CDs and, I hear, a magazine too. If it ever comes to voting for National Treasures I think The Hep, Lord Ellen, La Mossie and Big Frase all qualify.
I'll almost certainly be away on biz but wish you all a fabulous evening
So...
What will the categories be? Or is that to be revealed at a later date?
What a brilliant idea
Living as I do in Sydney Australia I cannot possibly attend but I wish you all well for a wonderful night.
One day I will visit the Northern Hemisphere again, and on that occasion I will definitely ensure there is a Massive Meet-Up somewhere before I book my flights.
Best regards to all of youse
If my award
is presented to me by the managing director of the bottled water company who are sponsoring it rather than Keith Richards or Frank Black I will be nothing less than miffed.
...and the award for the most
blatant abuse of the Popular Tag Cloud will be presented this year by James Warren of Stackridge and Qasi Pimple Smith of Aspidistra hatstand.
early design ideas for awards just in...
But, but...
I've already written my aspidistra-based, multi-award winner's speech
Upstairs?
UPSTAIRS? Wot about wheelchair access then? Aah, gotcha.
A Solitary Voice (or so it appears)...
Can I counsel against this. I bow to no-one in my appreciation of the Wordplex (collective noun for all things Word)but one of the reasons I like being here so much is that (generally) it manages to steer clear of self-indulgence, whether it's the mag itself, podcast or Massive.
Start down this track and we run the risk of everything becoming more about the participants and less about the content, which I for one don't want to see happen.
I think its great the way the Word engages with the readership so by all means have a party, drop in more on the local gatherings etc, but awards for the readership ? A slippery slope.
I wouldn't worry too much..
I suspect that editorial tongues will be firmy in cheeks as regards the whole thing.
I wonder if Colin Paterson will be outside interviewing everyone as they go in? Will Myleene Klass be there to pass comment on the fashions? Will there be a number of after-show parties?
And who...
will get to carry Lily Allen to her cab?
That'll be
me
I don't expect it to be a popular viewpoint...
...(but I'm no troll) and I should probably have held back until there is more info so I'll reserve any further comments until the thing is done. I'm sure you're right about the tongue placement, but that in itself isn't always enough.
I love the Word because the knowledge and wit involved is difficult to find anywhere else and it's a joy for subjects to be illuminated and expanded by the readership. What I don't enjoy, however, is those, albeit rare, occasions when threads become self-indulgent and self-referential.
I'm just nervous about something that seems as if it would encourage the latter.
Shall we put you down as a
"maybe" then?
Tell you what
Lighten up with your "slippery slopes", eh?
Although it's a distance
which is a bit of a pain for those of us not blessed with a residence in our capital, it's a bit of love given back to those of us who've cared enough to do stuff independently, but under the aegis of the magazine.
I say "Thank You" and I'll try to get there.
Good advice
I always try to relax when I'm on a slippery slope as it makes the impact at the bottom easy to take
The Slippery Slopes?
Now that's the award name sorted!
TMFTL
etc
I have clearly missed this one. What is TMFTL?
Three more...
...from them later.
latest bleedin Word abbreviation innit?
if you see a phrase in preceding post which is suggestive of a band's name as in The Slippery Slopes above then you add "three more from them later" hence TMFTL
qv HJH, FPO, HORA etc
Self indulgent gits
TMFTL
Here's a thought from the political thread
"I don't think it's the topics that people don't like. I think it's the abuse. I know I spray my opinions around and have been known to be cutting from time to time but I like to think I draw the line at outright abuse".
I'm not suggesting for a second that your post has degenerated into abuse Mr. H, but it's a bit uncalled for isn't it? Maybe talking of slippery slopes is taking this thing a bit seriously, maybe not.
But given that all that's being expressed is a worry that the poster loves this place and all the Word's works and has politely voiced a concern that this latest foray might foster the same kind of in crowd elitism that has buggered up so many other internet forums and mailing lists, I'm not sure he deserves the equivalent of "Shut up at the back of the class" from the headmaster.
Hey, it could be worse
Compared with "get a life" and "get over yourself", experts have found "lighten up" to lie 14.3 light years this side of acceptable.
Still, although "slippery slope" wasn't perhaps the best way to make the point (how about "thin end of the wedge" - would that do the job?), I do think I know what was meant by it. And I also know that he's not alone in shifting uneasily in his seat when things get to be more about the who than the what.
That's why my initial reaction when I saw this, er, initiative announced was "Oh, dear. Bad move." Then I rethunked and saw it for what I'm now confident it is: just a bit of giving-summat-back fun. (Remember fun? It's that slippery stuff that's been a bit in short supply around here of late.)
Posting here is not a competition. Nor is Massive membership going to be controlled by the handing-out of a limited number of shiny badges. We already know - not only from the quiver-busting corpulence of certain arrow collections, but also from the letters page and the A Night In/Out With... section of the mag - who the MVPs around here are. Over time, the cream will rise to the top and all that. I very much doubt that an ironico-postmodern awards ceremony in the back of a boozer, organised in order to - as the man said - lighten things up as the nights draw inexorably in, is likely to change, alter, modify, limit or otherwise precondition the flexibility of that natural process.
So, have a jolly smashing time, those who can go. The Cadiz-Islington Express is in the sidings for some much needed chintz-upholstery refurbishment that week, I note with regret. Otherwise I'd be there like a shot. Of Tia Maria, tequila... I'm not fussy.
Chintz-Uphostery Refurbishment...
TMFTL
Oh... well...
this is awkward... I just assumed, you know, that you'd, um, been given your shiny badge. It doesn't matter, honestly, it's just that... well... oh, is that the time? Must dash...
Valparaiso
Look, if anyone's needed to nip over and give Archie his award via the live satellite link up, I'll do it for expenses only
What have I started?
We do lots of things. A magazine, a CD, podcasts, a website, events, all manner of tomfoolery. One thing is adundantly clear: not everyone likes all of them. That's fine. We don't expect them to. But what makes me cross.....not that's wrong.....what irritates me....no, that's not it either.....what ticks me off....still not right but you get what I mean - is when people say that something they don't care for somehow spoils the bit they do.
When people refer to "slippery slopes" or start any post with the expression "Hmmm" (I've noticed this becoming the digital equivalent of "tut") I get far more upset than I should. Maybe because doing this kind of thing is less media than social. If I invited you to party and you didn't want to come then I'd expect you to come up with a diplomatic reason for refusing (washing your hair or something). I wouldn't expect a letter suggesting I shouldn't be bothering with parties while my garden is still in such a state.
The "awards" are an extension of a string of events started not by the magazine but by the readers themselves. We're delighted that some of them like doing it. We're equally happy if other people don't feel it.
And don't take anything I say here seriously. That particular comment was a gentle piece of joshery rather than a withering putdown. Imagine me smiling while I said it.
I think your garden looks lovely
Mr H. But you might want to put a fence round the pond. Some of the older Massive aren't as steady ojn their feet as they used to be.
Fair enough old fruit
I just thought the lighten up crack was a bit harsh. I suppose I'd better lighten up, get over it and get a life, in no particular order. :)
Just one observation I would make as somebody who has to moderate a similar forum in a different sphere - when I turn up and make a comment, because of my role on there, most readers do take it a bit more seriously and tend to take offence at stuff I don't mean to be taken that way. I think that because of who you are David, it's the same here. A wisecrack from one person is one thing, but because you are part of The Word heirarchy, whether intentional or not, if you say something, people give it a bit more weight. Apologies for doing exactly the same thing myself.
Of course, they might take offence at what I say in that other forum because I'm a fuckwit, but that's by the by...
Hmm
I often put "Hmm" in the subject field. Mainly because I can rarely think of anything else to put there, but also because I feel it sounds like you're giving the previous post some thought (As in 'Hmm...interesting'). Now I see that it can be miscontrued I'll have to go back to the drawing board.
Hmmm
I too use Hmmmm and I think I use it generally to mean "eerr, not so sure about that old bean" or similar. It doesn't mean "tut" to me or "interesting" particularly but I can see it is open to misinterpretation. It's a bit like emails, you have to be quite careful about how you say things as much is carried by intonation etc in speech which is lost in text.
Surely a 'tut hmmmm' is more of a 'hmph'?
Perhaps said in consort with a vigorous tapping out of ones pipe (and, no Lenny, that's not a euphamism)
Cash equivalent
That was the one which really got my goat when I was an HR manager*. Whenever the company I worked for put on a free Christmas party or a company anniversary celebration (hey, Mud were live, doing Tiger Feet - WNTL?) we got the grumpy squad who always demanded that we offer them the money instead.
(*There, I've admitted it, much as HR are despised in some sections of the Massive. In my defence, I went into an HR department from a technical job, initially to "sort out those idiots" - only to find that they had some perfectly good HR policies which were systematically screwed up by incompetent line managers.)
I know your pain
Or those who refuse to come to the Xmas party because 'they don't agree with organised fun'.
Then there's the awkward squad who seem to think they have somehow failed if they have to spend a moment of their free time with anyone they work with.
There are some shocking killjoys about.
Deffo not a shocking killjoy
just shockingly poor.Which is sodding annoying as one feels excluded by not being able to afford the entrance fee.Hey ho,what the fu*k.I genuinely hope you spoilt rich kids have a spiffing good time :-)
Er...
What does that mean exactly? Because we live in London we are spoilt rich kids? Don't be absurd. You don't know anything about my life.
BTW, my comment wasn't aimed at you, I was replying to the previous poster's Christmas party post.
EDIT: Just noticed your smiley thing. But you know...
Just a misjudged attempt at humour buddy
Touchy much.No offence meant.I honestly hope all who attend enjoy themselves.
That'd be me, you mean...
Yes, it's true that everyone I've ever had to deal with in HR has been either a moron, a jobsworth or actively malign. So much so that I'm looking for a new path into self-employment specifically so that I never have any aspect of my life in hock to any of these bastards ever again. But there's always going to be exceptions to what looks like the norm, and I've no doubt you were one of those Milly. The very fact that you're on this forum says as much :-)
As I've met our Milly
I can confirm that she is a very lovely lady indeed.
Aw, thank you
I was resisting the urge to re-justify my career choices, as I do realise there are some dreadful self-important HR eejits out there, and Colin H has obviously been badly treated by some of them.
But it's nice to know I'm not always tarred with the same brush. Trouble is, I jumped out of the frying pan into the fire by becoming a careers adviser, similarly vilified in popular opinion - masochist or what?!
BTW - with the majority of the Massive being in the same situation as us (too far from London and not swimming in cash), as an online community, why don't we organise a Virtual Charabanc, so we can all take part? Haven't figured out yet what that means, but I like the concept. Maybe that should be my next blog post...
"careers adviser, similarly vilified in popular opinion"
Not at all Milly, not at all! I went in despair to one during the summer - at a voluntary sector agency - and I got some very useful advice from someone who obviously cared about what she was doing, all the more remarkable because I got the distinct impression from her that her own job was looking as if it might become insecure.
Everybody needs somebody, etc. Sometimes a humane attitude is at least 50% of all that'ds necessary to resolve a situation in itself. Ditching any inkling of humanity, I'm afraid, seems to be a requirement of becoming a HR person at the large public sector Gormenghast at which I work. No sign of escaping it yet, alas, but once I've succeeded at demonstrating through formal process how they've (a) ignored the law and (b) ignored their own procedures, I'll take great pleasure in sending them an invoice for my solicitor's fees. A low-end employee shouldn't have to go to such lengths to be treated fairly.
Good luck with your battle
You do seem to have had a particularly horrendous experience with HR. Sometimes you find that people end up in HR because they were a disaster as line managers and are shuffled into HR "where they can't do so much damage"(!) or they love the posturing of union negotiations (I've seen a union official and HR manager shouting at each other across a table, then take time out and sit outside chatting like old mates over a cup of tea, before going back to continue the charade). Just sometimes, you get HR people who want to make a difference to the way people are treated during their working lives.
Re. the careers adviser reputation:
I'm just used to the regular newspaper articles where some artsy/media type damns all careers advisers because their school careers adviser (who was probably a geography teacher who'd been on a 1 day course) wasn't able to predict the job said artsy-type would end up in. Guess what? We can't predict the future or match people to the right job. Listening, asking the right questions to get people to think and pointing out how the job market works are more our stock in trade. Glad you found a good 'un!
OK, this is strictly between you and me right
But I work in HR too. There, I've said it. I didn't intend to have a career there, it just happened. A long time ago.
My experience has been that some are good (including me, obviously) and some are bad. A few have been downright awful. But not that diferent to any other profession really. And no shortage of occasions where people have thought they could treat HR people like dirt, just becasue they were in HR. But also not that dissimilar to the behaviour sometimes encountered by anyone who deals with "the public" at large - front line customer services staff, doctors, nurses etc etc
The shame of it is that the bad'uns in HR can blight other peoples lives and careers. I've been advising a friend of the GLW who has been bullied and also subjected to racial discrimination. The HR response has been pathetic. And so the employment tribunal courts beckon. It could have been fixed but now everyone loses.
I was sorry to read about Colin's experiences too. Unfortunately if they won't listen, it leaves you little option but to get lawyers involved. I hope you get a result.
Thanks Milly, thanks Fortune!
I'm sorry I always I always seem to get back to griping about my job angst on here - and its certainly off-topic for this thread! - but I do appreciate your empathy! And I'm sure you're right: aside from my own experience, I'm sure there must - of course - be decent people in HR depts the world over. All I can speak for, alas, is my own experience which has been very negative and has involved a number of individuals in the HR dept being an impediment to progress. To me, the system is broken and they've basically lost - because I WILL be leaving, one way or another - a very conscientious employee of 9 years standing with a near-perfect absence record and a lot of atributes useful in the workplace.
I drove in today to quietly collect my belongings - an adventure that went awary when my boss noticed me and then my car wouldn't start. I need to go back later with jump leads. God has a sense of humour, doesn't he? But said boss really is a human being and is doing everything she can to 'move things forward' while I'm off. I was off on stress for 2 months, came back for two days, now I'm 'suspended on sick leave' (for the good of my health) which is an interesting concept. I'm being persuaded to agree to 'informal meetings' in parallel with the formal grievance I've lodged. Those informal meetings (plural) would be towards the goal of getting a job description signed - with a man who promised to have it signed by mid June. And here we are in November. It beggars belief that more than one meeting could conceivably be required to discuss any amendments & clarifications required in the thing. But this is the public sector, and people spend whole careers wasting time on behalf of themselves, their employers and everyone who might be depending on them for something. It's a joke. Can you imagine if the not-signing guy had been in charge of the Conservative/Lib Dem coalition agreement? By now, he'd just about have managed to introduce everyone to each other and maybe ordered in some croissants...
HR eejits
In my experience, people are people, no matter where they are from, or what they do for a living.
I realise that I am stating the obvious, but no job, region, or political leaning has a monopoly on Eejits or "good eggs"
(Unless of course they dont read "The Word" - but they should be pitied, not scorned)
I can't come.
I'm washing Lucas Hare.
I, on the other hand...
...hope to make it. Sorry if I sound a bit vague, but I'm in rehearsals at the moment for a play and only ever really find out the day before what times we work until. Fingers crossed.
Have to say I agree
I think the point was posted with some care and acknowledgement that it might be a minority view. The uncharitable nature of a couple of the replies has been dissapointing.
But I think Archie's post sums up things pretty well and mirrors my reactions. I understand why The Word want to engage and include their readers as much as possible.
Quite
I think the original point was made carefully and politely (more 'eek' than 'NO!') and like Archie, my initial thoughts were similar, but the thread changed my mind.
You don't
have to come
I think it's a fine idea. Readers love to feel loved.
Isn't it just a bit of fun...?
A good night out, a few beers, a chance to chat to like-minded souls, swap CDs, have a few more beers, maybe make some new friends...
If that's a slippery slope - I'm all for it, see you at the bottom!
and pole dancing Eskimos
or some such
And for some of us
its the only time we get to meet other human beings
Are you sure
you're talking about the same gig?
But, prey tell, what exactly are...
... these "human beings" of which you speak?
Well genetically altered humans
not usually scene outside the Dr Who set
Alright
the only chance we get to have a cheeky fondle
Now
you're talking, chihuahua-chops
Speak for yourself!
Oh.. you probably meant to add the suffix "..of other people."
I'm in
Can't wait!
I might have to scarper for Euston at some point
but I must admit I am also tempted.
For Roy Levy
Sorry mate.... the winner of the most double, and indeed triple posts goes to myself... Hold the world record I do!
For Roy Levy
Sorry mate.... the winner of the most double, and indeed triple posts goes to myself... Hold the world record I do!
For Roy Levy
Sorry mate.... the winner of the most double, and indeed triple posts goes to myself... Hold the world record I do!
For Roy Levy
Sorry mate.... the winner of the most double, and indeed triple posts goes to myself... Hold the world record I do!
For Roy Levy
Sorry mate.... the winner of the most double, and indeed triple posts goes to myself... Hold the world record I do!
Now you're just showing off
It would be rude not to.
I look forward to seeing you all.
Twitter running commentary?
No chance of schlepping down to that there London for me, but if a video link is out of the question, could we at least have a Twitter hashtag?
Twitter Hashtag?
Saw them in The Appllo, supporting Hawkwind... TMFTL...
If Patrick gets to pick up
"The Thread That Will Not Die Award' reserve the front row me and Crazy Horslips Otherwise I'll wait ... I assume next year they will be held in Belfast?
That monstrosity - thankfully - originated over a year ago...
and therefore shouldn't qualify for any kind of award whatsoever. And, come to think of it, it shouldn't qualify for an award even if it had been started last week. Remember folks - complete bollocks should never be rewarded.
Belfast will have to wait, sorry
It´s in Växjö next year. Because who doesn´t want to wake up in a city that´s always asleep?
alas
Even though the aussie dollar continues to appreciate, discounting of return flights Melbourne to London has not reached the level where a trip is even remotely economically viable.
I look forward to hearing how it goes.
I'm in...
...is that the pub that used to be the Salmon & Compasses? I had an altercation with a baritone saxophone in there once.
Will have to pass
its a long way from Aberdeen on a Friday.
Sounds like a great event though.
Enjoy.
I am genuinely surprised at how grumpy some people
have got about a party!
When i first saw this I just thought it was just another nice jolly idea for the Word especially as it came out the the same day as the Q's awards . I didn't even imagine there'd be even any actually awards it would be just a semi formal get together. I can understand the annoyance of people further a field but a small magazine is hardly the worst offender in this.
Lastly I'd like to commend all at Word towers for their believe in free speech. I can't imagine many media companies even overtly liberal leaning ones allowing people to doubt their motives or those of their advertisers openly on their website (as has happened here recently). You won't see many letters in vogue saying Chanel or D &G are any anything less than wonderful.
I'll probably be called a suck up or worse but lets not lose sight of it only being a party.
Sorry didn't mean too be grumpy.
It's not annoyance,It's frustration.I love the Word,have done since the very first issue.I hold the Massive in the highest esteem and I sincerely hope the evening is enjoyed by all who attend.The only way I can think of to explain the frustrating part of this is,imagine if the football team you've given your heart and soul to played all their games four hundred miles from where you live and you could NEVER see them play.I do think the idea of a knees up is a grand one only wish....Oh well.
One day they'll invent teleporters.
Then we can have Word meet ups every week, that everyone can get to, and it'll be ace.
I spend more of my waking time daydreaming about owning a teleporter than is strictly healthy. Most people I love live a looooong way away.
(PS I realise that, sadly, scientists are unlikely to invent teleporters at any point during our lifetimes, I am just a ridiculous optimist)
Pay me no mind Hannah.
Just a lonely old git in a slump.Have a good time.XX
As soon as they invent teleporters
I'm going to buy you one for your birthday! :-D
One day I'm determined we'll figure out a way to do a North West Massive / London Massive meet. xx
How about a translocation podule?
According to this southern softie, they've been around for years:
(Apologies to anyone who can't see embedded choobs - I couldn't work out how to paste just the link without it creating another embedded video.)
In fact we *can* now do a sort of teleportation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation
but unfortunately it's no use even for sending subatomic particles (just information) ...so even someone as small as Kylie will have to stay put.
Many was the wet evening I used to dream of teleportation as I walked down Hythe Pier as a kid ... Alfred Bester's "Tiger, Tiger"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stars_My_Destination
was thus a very appealing book ...
As an exiled Cestrian
I'll fly a (metaphorical) flag on your behalf.
Thank you Hannah and Carl.
Hope you and everyone else,even touchy old Five Centres have a ball.
Touchy?
Me?
*flounces out*
Grumpy?
Me?
*Where the fu*k have the rest of those pigging dwarves gone,hey ho*
There was a teleporter discussion on Facebook
Which degenerated into speculation over whether or not people could take their work tools into the teleporter with them or if they had to go in the hold, how long the check in time would be, which terminal the teleporter would be sited at etc. It was all joyously silly. The conclusion was we could live with the small issues as long as Ryan Air didn't operate it.
On a different note, surely one of the Mac fanbois could webcast this important event?
I reacall a business rival of O'Leary's observing
that if he ran space tourism, they'd take you to the far side of the Moon, and charge you for the Oxygen ...
They wouldn't take you that far
but just out of the existing atmosphere. They'd charge from there onwards.
I think if I wanted to "just" clear
the atmosphere I'd hitch along with Branson ;-)
http://www.virgingalactic.com/
Well, judging from the
photos and stories posted after the Northern meet-ups Pencilsqueezer, I'm sure I'm not the only one who wished they could afford to travel up to join in!
It would be great (but naiive of me maybe) to wish for some sort of halfway "official" gathering one day, Manchester or Birmingham say along with Scottish and Irish dates, better still a Word World Tour!
I know it's all about the costs but to help they could feature local bands supporting The Love Trousers and sell merchandise like signed Captain's Underpants.
Is there a Midlands Massive
or am I it (until I lose weight anyway)?
I'm a Midlands Massive member (if you'll pardon the expression)
but have ventured down on the train for the London meet-ups. If you can get a cheap train ticket, the London dos are thoroughly recommended.
KC
The venue is idea as it's only 5 mins walk from Kings Cross
I hope to God...
I'm not as late to the venue on the evening as I am to this thread.
I'll be there.
You lot are great so it will be nice to see you again.
I'm there, but will
try to handbrake the visits to the bar, after reeling home sideways from The Pugwash gig..
Award name how about some random captcha phrase.
Speaking of which I had these pop up on my blog - both genuine..
haha, excellent
The verification on this page used to be solving simple arithmetic. Then it changed to character recognition. Guess people were getting the sums wrong.
It was character recognition first,
(similar to Mondo's example), which personally I had a lot of trouble reading (I have eye trouble).
Then it changed to simple arithmetic, easier to read, but the number of spam posts went up sharply.
Then it changed to its present form.
(that's my non-technical and non-insider summing up, I'm sure Fraser would give you a more involved / interesting explanation!)
Splendid!
C'mon, a Skype or iChat hook up for those of us as can't travel is perfectly feasible.
Count me in, I'll even comb my hair.
beard hair that is as I'm starting to resemble a Gentle Giant album cover
and...
don't forget to plait your nose hair and put a bow in your ear hair ;-)
Blimey!
Have we met or was it just your old 'wonky' eye? :D
Word Buffet
Sadly I will be at Fibbers in York watching the James Taylor Quartet, think I would rather be in London that night though. Hope it all goes well and readers bring their food for the interval. Sounds a wonderful evening, hopefully there will be some pictures of the event on the site or magazine for those who can't make it?
The after party
will be great if we all get our webshite aligned.
'Fibbers'
is that for real (as our colonial chums say)?
Sounds delightfully 70s, like 'Mr Kyps' etc.
No Fib
Yes, Fibbers is indeed real, one of York's best little venues after The Duchess.
sounds good
If I'm not at work that day I might try and get there.
But if I am I'll finish at 7 (in Andover) and am guessing I won't have enough time to journey smokewards.
Count me in
obviously
If we say here that we're not attending
does someone from the magazine ring up and say "Sir, I think it would be worth your while if you did, hint, hint"?
I hope to be there too
Any excuse really.
Good luck with it ...
Unlikely to be present, sadly ... distance certainly a problem ... Anyway, I'm sure it will go well so, to all attending, have a good time and cheers!
Any news on this night out yet?
Is it still going ahead? Do we have a voting form to fill-in? Any special guest presenters and do I have to wear my tuxedo?
... and what about
video link ups, any movement there?
Readers' Award
Shouldn't we be voting for something? Best article? Best Word contributor? Best Thread? or something? We could have a quick poll to get a short list then vote for them.
Patience, young fellow
All will be revealed shortly.
Unruly
You know what an unruly lot we are. Nature doesn't like a vacuum etc. I propose an award for Most Charming Webmaster.
That's
Best Online Sycophant sewn up, Twang...
:-)
Webmaster
That sounds a bit too Doctor Who, doesn't it? I think I preferred it when he was Old Lewry the caretaker, armed with his dustpan to sweep up the discarded sweet wrappers and his trusty rusty can of Jeyes fluid to mop up any sick.
Mopping up sick (early 60s)
The rural Suffolk method was for the caretaker to bring a shovel-full of ashes from the boiler to soak it up.
Disinfectant may well have been used once the resultant heap was cleared away, but it's the ashes I remember. (And for some inexplicable reason I was thinking about this earlier in the week...)
Nowadays
In public venues this task is carried out by trained first aiders in latex gloves blasting the offensive puke with some magic potion that turns it into a solid for removal to a safe utensil. Wonder if I can get a grant to prove that boiler ash was best. Mmmm.
what strange tangents
What strange tangents we fly off on around here.
I seem to recall caretakers (in brown coats) using Jeyes Fluid-soaked sawdust to soak up the dived carrots when I was a young shaver.
Sadly I must withdraw.
Family do, so I've got to pull out.
Oh, and especially for Gauntlet: "withdraw", "do", "pull out".
Oh boo
what a shame Bobear I was looking forward to discussing amps and sring gauges. BTW, fancy a Word musos jam session? We could stick the results on YouTube for the Massive to post ascerbic comments about. There are enough of us to have a good bash.
Boo ...
...is right. And that sounds like a plan!
double boo
OK, here's my best Gauntlet effort...
I was really looking forward to "fiddling" with your "iPad".
Shame! But see you in Jan. xx
Shame
I was going to talk to you about the Hold Steady track I liked by mistake...
Any parking tips
from the designated driver of the Massive.
Left hand
down, I said LEFT hand down!
Reginald Molehusband...
isn't on Youtube so this will have to suffice as advice.
Stick My Award In The Post.
Second-class will be fine.
Great big hairy balls
I can't make it on the 26th now.
Drat and double drat. Was really looking forward to seeing you all again.
Have a fantastic evening all.
"I was never any good
at math"
Ron Decline