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It was thirty years ago...

Skuds's picture

...that Kraftwerk got to No. 1 in the UK with The Model and I have been spending a lot of time listening to a huge pile of 6 Music shows celebrating this.

The various shows feature and endless parade of music people like Daniel Miller, Andy McCluskey, Afrika Bambaata or Stephen Morris sharing stories about how they first heard das fab fier and how they are the most influential band ever. It all sounded very hyperbolic but after having heard so many tracks in such a short time I can't really disagree.

I've got all the CD albums, the concert DVD, some of the remix singles, used to have some of it on vinyl and count myself privileged to have seen them play but even so I had forgotten just how bloody good they are.

The only low point was hearing a track from one of the early albums, loving it, and finding out that you just can't get them on CD or even stream them on Spotify.

So is all the Kraftwerk hype really justified? Surely it is worth a celebration anyway.

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They're magnificent

as are the great British public for putting 'Autobahn' in the charts a few years earlier.

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ianess | 8 February 2012 - 12:29am

Totally justified adulation

Undeniably influential and great.

After 40-odd years though, I now find the four-stationary-blokes-behind-laptops schtick a bit old. They have done it for so long that Kraftwerk now *must* be like that because it's their act.

Kraftwerk seem to be as creatively trapped as Wee Jimmy Krankie and no new music since 2003 means that they're happy to plod along with the live show. It's a living.

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Austin | 8 February 2012 - 2:08am

Saw this thread and

thought it was about me, as it's my 30th birthday today.

Alas, no.

Carry on!

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Nick | 8 February 2012 - 2:21am

Happy Birthday!

Or maybe I should say "Alles gute zum Geburtstag!"

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Hawkfall | 8 February 2012 - 9:59am

From me too Nick..

you young whippersnapper (in Massive terms), happy birthday.

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Declan | 8 February 2012 - 11:02am

I particularly liked

Jarvis Cocker's show with Kraftwerk covers, other electronic music and archive clips. the one of David Kid jensen interveiweing Rallf (I think) when the MOdel got to No.1 was hilarious.

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DogFacedBoy | 8 February 2012 - 2:30am

Car crash

I thought the Jensen/Hutter interview was a bit of a car crash, but no less brilliant for that.

Good show - the audio essay at the end made me search out The New Creation on Spotify because I had never heard such a bonkers song.

Hope it is not heretical or anything, but I am getting increasingly tired of JC's ever so arch presentation style and love of his own voice. Its like he thinks of himself as the 21st-Century Gerald Harper or something.

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Skuds | 8 February 2012 - 9:25pm

Well

he did send me some roses and a bottle of champagne

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DogFacedBoy | 10 February 2012 - 11:23pm

The two most influential bands of all time?

The Beatles and Kraftwerk. Kraftwerk's contribution to how popular music sounds - and is created - cannot be overstated. And I facking love the Beatles.

I've seen Kraftwerk about 30 times, all over the place. Oslo in a tiny club where I almost got kicked out for taking photos; Coachella in 100-degree heat at 9pm; in the middle of a working steelmill in Krakow; at the Velodrome in Manchester where the British Olympic cycling team appeared and cycled around the track during Tour De France and Ralf was more animated than I ever saw before - he smirked, even; 8pm and midnight at the disused, gargantuan VW powerstation (Kraftwerk, geddit?!) at the VW Autostadt in Wolfsburg, where the second half had the visuals in 3-D for the first time; and at Brixton Academy, again at 8pm and midnight, where I had the wrong ticket on me (a spare for the Glasgow show a few days earlier that looked identical) and had to ask a stranger to get his mate's proper ticket for me so I could stop hanging around in the foyer. They even called me in between shows to ask if I wanted anything from McDonalds, then delivered me a Happy Meal that I consumed during the second outing for The Man Machine that evening. Lovely boys.

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pocket.calculator | 8 February 2012 - 3:29am

You've seen them 30 times?

That's funny, with your name I had you down as a Sabbath fan.

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Hawkfall | 8 February 2012 - 8:32am

Respect totally due

Kraftwerk are like Elvis, The Beatles, The Pistols... they fundamentally changed the landscape, and the aftershocks are still with us. As a top-20 taping 12 year-old, Autobahn was the first track that made me go "wow, what's this??" and I love them to this day.

They've disowned the first albums for years, but have apparently been remixing them for their first (official) CD release soon... so in Kraftwerk time, that's maybe 2015? They're far from essential listening, but are an interesting missing link between krautrock and what Kraftwerk eventually became from Autobahn onwards.

And it's worth reminding ourselves that when The Model reached number 1, it was already 4 years old, a nice example of how ahead of their time they were... actually, the Trans-Europe Express album still sounds ahead of its time.

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Metal Mickey | 8 February 2012 - 7:30am

Undoubtedly influential

but I haven't played a full album by them for years, and that's as a fan of long standing.

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emaol | 8 February 2012 - 9:24am

Oddly enough...

... I had Computer Love on from beginning to end three nights ago. I sat there with a wee whiskey, warmed to my very cockles and thinking that I didn't give a monkeys if it was their last truly great thing, it's just so completely perfect that I'm glad that it exists.

Anyway here's The Model, but IN GERMAN!!!!!!

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ganglesprocket | 8 February 2012 - 10:05am

Deutsch

The 'big five' LPs are all better in German, in my opinion, with slightly different mixes that kind of throw you if you're used to hearing the English versions.

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pocket.calculator | 8 February 2012 - 8:03pm

As a young fan in the

As a young fan in the mid-70's, I remember seeing an article about Kraftwerk in the Daily Record. It had a full glossy colour picture of their replica dummies alongside their pride and joy, the electronic rhythmn computer - all dials and switches & sliders. The article was about how they intended in future to design dummies they could send out on tour while they stayed at home. (A technique Simon Cowell would perfect a few short decades later, albeit with musically less-interesting results.)

I was so inspired by the article that I immediately went away and made my own 'rhythmn computer' out of a cardboard box and some old knobs borrowed from my dad's reel-to-reel tape recorder.

I can report that unsurprisingly it didn't work. But something about the waves of warm radioactive bakelite emanating from the Daily Record that day made me think it might.

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Charlie Mingles | 8 February 2012 - 11:12am

Been a fan for about.. Ooh.. 33 years..

Great was the kudos at school when The Model hit #1.

I think they're a band who have improved with the years, although the high point remains Computerworld to my ears. I also prefer most of the updated versions inThe Mix.

As for the unavailable early stuff, I had it all on vinyl.

No-one's missing much. Godawful racket. Imagine a Stylophone in a tumble-dryer whilst someone noodles in the background, somewhat atonally, on a variety of flutes.

Were / are they that influential? Not, I suspect, to the degree that people think. The bands which came after would probably still have existed. Were they pioneers? Absolutely. And for that alone, they should be lauded.

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Lenny Law | 8 February 2012 - 3:52pm

Glad its not just me then

I have a terrible memory of personal events so all those I Love xxx shows don't always strike a chord, but I was amazed how many of the reminiscences of Kraftwerk were so similar to mine.

Yes I remember being amazed by the Tomorrow's World appearance

Yes I remember being stunned by hearing Autobahn for the first time on Radio Luxembourg

And I totally remember hearing Showroom Dummies for the first time and having a vivid mental image of the Autons from Doctor Who

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Skuds | 8 February 2012 - 9:34pm

They're in this week's 'Smash Hits'

Page 30/31 of the Smash Hits from 30 years ago 'this week'

http://www.likepunkneverhappened.blogspot.com/

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Lemon Kitten | 10 February 2012 - 11:16pm

Back in 1975...

Plummy-voiced 'Tomorrow's World' chap gamely gets down with the band in their "laboratory in Dusseldorf'

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Slotbadger | 10 February 2012 - 11:38pm
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