Is It Live ?
Posted by paul beard on 28 February 2008 - 11:46am.
Now i will come on here and Defend Danny Baker to the Death but he keeps playing this annoying song and i can't figure out if it's supposed to be live or it's Recorded Live with family and friends who know all the words and just make it sound false.
Now fake Live recordings are not new,Thinking of Gram Parsons "Medley Live from Northern Quebec:", but can't think of any others. Some help please
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It's Kendel Carson doing "I Like Trucks" and we had it on the CD with our August issue. If you subscribed you'd have a copy.
I think
I'm the only Word reader who likes this song. At least, that's how it feels.
Also
It's a very difficult song to express admiration for, because you have to say "I like "I Like Trucks"". Like Nick Hornby said about "About A Boy". I don't have a stutter, honest.
I love it!
I'm with you all the way Lucas. It's one of the best things ever from a Word CD. Shall we form a gang?
Count me in too.
This one goes in my "Great Choruses To Shout Drunkenly When You've Had A Few" list alongside gems like Mary Gauthier's splendid "I Drink".
Now there's an idea for a thread of its own; great choruses for over-sauced yelling.
I Drink!
You're right - gang members must also like that one.
Lucas...
... you are not alone.
Wo-hoo
I have friends!
Now, I Drink...how can anyone not like that? A lesson in how to write a song.
Mrs Path....
....thought it a bit maudlin. I love it and her new Joe Henry produced LP.
Can I just say...
...I like everything Joe Henry is anywhere near? Have you got "Civilians"? Masterpiece.
Yes Sir
It's great, but I feel his strength is more a producer than a writer. His songs sound good, but Solomon Burke and Mary Gaulthier produced by him sound good but seem better actual songs.
Yes i'm new
And i travel 10 km every month to buy Word.I don't live in The UK. Also don't want a copy of this song. Sorry Lucas,it is rubbish.
But what about the other "Fake" live recordings. Seem to remember Reading That Cliff's first album was a "fake" live recording.
Orgasm...
... by John's Children is a fake live album. The cheering/screaming is lifted from The Beatles "Hard Day's Night" film. Elton John's "Benny and the Jets" is also fake, the cheering coming from a live Faces album.
The Sound of the Crowd
The crowd noise on "Diamond Dogs" is from "Coast to Coast: Overture and Beginners", the live Faces album. I think Benny and the Jets is noise from previous Elton John gigs(?)
An obvious one - on the Beatles' "Love", crowd noise is dubbed onto the start of the studio version of "I Wanna Hold Your Hand".
And a more obscure one that I like: Gallon Drunk's version of "Solitaire". After the first line is sung, it has a ripple of applause from what sounds like a small, slightly seedy basement bar.
Metal
Then there's the live albums where the producer felt in necessary to add more crowd noise. Kiss' Alive II was spiced up by some old Superbowl crowd recordings, while Cheap Trick's Live at Budokan was similarly 'boosted'.
It's not rubbish
Fairport Convention: In Real Time
Live audience sound allegedly added from a live John Martyn record.......
Lets hope you don't need added applause tomorrow night, fellas!!!
Sandy Denny, Gold Dust, was at least live, but so old were the tapes, they say, that "new" backing vocals were added for this to be released, long after Ms Denny herself was dead.
Fairport gave the game away
with 'In Reel Time' when they released a video of the Cropredy 87 set (where the picture for the cover was taken). Although the songs on the album were the same it was immediately obvious that the performances weren't.
How about this?
What about the novelty Northern Soul hit "Footsie", by Wigan's Chosen Few? In the middle of the kazoo-blowing mania there was a chant that sounded a bit like a big crowd going "Footsie....Footsie....". Actually it was a sample of the crowd at the 1966 F.A. Cup Final who were chanting "Wednesday....Wednesday...."
Or so the story goes...
Other fakes
Isn't there a Yardbirds album, supposedly live but a studio recording with a bullfight crowd dubbed on? The 'Beach Boys Party' album wasn't out on a beach with the barbeque popping merrily away, but a studio effort with a few mates. And the cheers from XTC's 'The Loving' are the roar that greeted John Lennon's last ever live performance, at Madison Square Garden guesting with Elton John.
Has no one mentioned Farmer John?
This has got to be the winner...
The Band
Not so 'Live At Watkins Glen' - pretty much a totally fabricated live album. Some studio tracks with overdubbed crowd noise and a few live tracks from other shows dressed up as the 'best available surviving tape'. Still sounds pretty good though.
Oh yes
I'd forgotten about this. Shocking con of an album. Consisted largely of tracks that had just been made available on a rather pricey box set; and the 2000 remasters revealed that two were studio tracks from the Moondog Matinee sessions - and there was me marvelling how tight they sounded live - and a few were outtakes from Rock Of Ages. Criminal.
Neil Young's
Rockin in the free world doesnt sound as if it actually live but i could be wrong.
I like
I like trucks too. Just a thought but if every town had a pub where the conversations were as good as they are on here we could all go and live real lives...and get merry!
Joe Henry
Joe Henry's "Civilians" is rightly championed by David Hepworth but Henry's back catalogue is a treasure trove of great albums too. "Trampoline" from 1996, his first move away from the Americana sound that dominates his early albums, is absolutely wonderful: great songs, great setting and it still sounds wonderful today. His third album ("Short Man's Room") is still one of my all time favourites: Joe Henry and the Jayhawks recorded live in the offices of a record company in Minneapolis. The sessions were initially supposed to be just demos, but the results were so good it was released, with some additional production. I've written this before, but if you're looking for a soundtrack to the short stories of Raymond Carver look no further than "Short Man's Room". It's wonderful.
Thin Lizzy - Live and Dangerous
One of my favourite albums but Live?
By most accounts the original live concert tapes were polished, buffed, re-recorded and adapted so that this album is properly a studio album with a live audience backing track.