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Is Francis Rossi the least boring rock star ever?

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I caught Francis Rossi on Radio Four's Saturday Live the other day. They took him back to his old primary school. He was very good. He didn't say anything wildly memorable or witty but he entered into the spirit of the thing and reacted like a normal human being rather than in the way he felt a rock legend ought to.

It struck me that I've heard Francis Rossi interviewed hundreds of times over the years and he's never been boring. This makes him exceptional. Most rock stars, however interesting they are as artists, have very little to say on any subject other than themselves, their new album and a book they once read. They don't take part in a conversation. They deliver a monologue. In any other sphere of life this would mark them out as bores.

Who else can always be relied upon to just muck in and keep the bright red beach ball of conversation in the air?

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A Few

Janelle Monae and Julian Cope spring to mind straight way

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BigJimBob | 21 September 2011 - 8:59am

Cope

His autobiographies remain my favourite rock reads, even though I've only ever heard two of his tracks (Reward & World Shut Your Mouth).

That's a sign of an interesting bloke.

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Spartacus Mills | 21 September 2011 - 9:00am

If you'd like to hear more

Jehovakill & Peggy Suicide are excellent.

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Cobweb Steve | 21 September 2011 - 11:21am

They tripped me out, those books.

Half way through my copy, the words all appeared upsidedown and back to front.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 21 September 2011 - 12:23pm

Ha!

Genuine LOL, as the kids say.

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Spartacus Mills | 21 September 2011 - 12:25pm

Having interviewed him

I would say yes. He - and Rick - were hilarious from before they even sat down to when we were saying our goodbyes.

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Rob Fitzpatrick | 22 September 2011 - 5:52pm

Rossi

Yeah, he and Parfitt always strike me as good blokes. Don't take themselves seriously, like a laugh, grateful for where they are...etc

Not a rock star, but I'd nominate Wolves manager Mick McCarthy as another non-boring man. Good sense of humour, and refreshingly free of cant.

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Spartacus Mills | 21 September 2011 - 9:01am

Presumably by "cant"...

... you mean Joey Barton.

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Formbyman | 21 September 2011 - 11:27am

They do seem alright

but i think they take themselves incredibly seriously, see the whole suing Radio 1 for not playing the worst record ever made "Fun,Fun,Fun".

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Sour Crout | 21 September 2011 - 12:29pm

Yeah but

I think that passed and they got over themselves a bit. I suppose if you'd been hammered for being talentless for so long you'd be a bit chippy. Now they're more like an institution they can relax a bit more, I think

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illuminatus | 21 September 2011 - 5:19pm

Quo are past masters at PR

Look how many times they manage to keep themselves in the papers by either planting newsworthy stories or pulling stunts like Rock Til You Drop, playing on ships etc etc. I'm sure the R1 thing was just one of these.

Glad to see they've got over the Fun Fun Fun thing though. Watched their recent televised concert from Montreaux and it was the nearest thing I've seen to Proper Quo in a while. Even played oldies like "Softer Ride".

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poolhallrichard | 22 September 2011 - 12:10pm

Get along

to their current live show. They tour all the time and are one of the best (and loudest) shows around. Loads of old stuff, no frills just 'heads down, no nonsense, mindless boogie'.

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niallb | 22 September 2011 - 12:37pm

And....they have Roy Wood playing with them on this tour...

Going to see them at the Bournemouth Centre. Looking forward to it immensely.

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Six Dog | 22 September 2011 - 12:46pm

He's a top bloke

is Rossi.

Funnily enough I was watching the Quo documentary Rock On... And On recently and he was very guarded and defensive in that. Possibly because he sensed the interviewer was looking to set him up for a traditional "Own up, Quo are crap, aren't they?" piss-take.

Someone else who always gives a great interview is Rick Wakeman. A very funny man, his tales of life on the road as the only meat-eating boozer in Yes are legendary.

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mojoworking | 21 September 2011 - 9:06am

From what I've heard of him

Nick Lowe's generally good value

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BonzoDog | 21 September 2011 - 9:06am

David Crosby

Get David Crosby going on any subject and you get good value. Particularly politics!

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Twangothan | 21 September 2011 - 9:29am

Andy

Partridge.

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eddie g | 21 September 2011 - 9:32am

Colin M

[tips titfer]

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Moose the Mooche | 21 September 2011 - 10:13pm

As always

Waits

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badger_king | 21 September 2011 - 10:03am

Waits

I have been a fan of TW since for ever but I have to say I have never heard him utter anything other than cryptic rubbish designed to bolster his own image. Entertaining, yes, but hardly a conversation.

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Twangothan | 21 September 2011 - 12:17pm

Bill Drummond

Always challenging.

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clivetemple | 21 September 2011 - 10:07am

you beat me to it

.. Bill Drummond was the first person who jumped to mind. I'd recommend his book '45' to anyone who hasn't yet read it

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seanioio | 21 September 2011 - 1:52pm

Rick Wakeman generally holds his own...

... on a wide variety of subjects.

On a different level perhaps, Brian Eno seems to engage. I suppose he suffers a bit from "smartest man in the room" syndrome but he certainly goes beyond "new album, last book I read" when he talks.

Noel Gallagher very often engages as well. He was brilliant with Russell Brand on the radio and, I suspect, would be the perfect foil on something like Talksport.

Let us also never forget Neil Tennant.

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ganglesprocket | 21 September 2011 - 10:50am

Another nod for Noel G.

Another nod for Noel G.

Whatever you think of his music (and I happen to rather like it) you can't deny he gives good mic.

I'd love to hear him on the podcast.

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Greenback | 21 September 2011 - 7:27pm

Noel

Yes, he's a smashing raconteur. I'd much rather go and see him do a spoken word tour than play his new material, which is worrying in a way.

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Spartacus Mills | 21 September 2011 - 8:08pm

100% agree

Noel is ALWAYS entertaining and his opinions seem sincere whether controversial or mainstream. He is someone utterly comfortable in his skin - knows his weaknesses and is not falsely modest about his successes. Also, he always gives the impression that he is in a fortunate place and massively appreciates being there.

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kb | 22 September 2011 - 11:22am

Another vote here

very funny man - the three hour radio show he did on Radio 2 in for Dermot O' Leary (who was on X Factor duty) was great from start to finish.

The first line got me straight away - 'Dermot can't be with you today as he's busy lying to people who can't sing'

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Chimney Singing... | 22 September 2011 - 11:32am

Gah

I forgot about that. Hope there's a recording online somewhere.

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Spartacus Mills | 22 September 2011 - 11:37am

There is

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Chimney Singing... | 22 September 2011 - 11:42am

I can't see what you've posted...

...due to work internet filters! But that's very helpful, thanks. I'll listen to it tonight when I get in.

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Spartacus Mills | 22 September 2011 - 11:43am

more than holds his own

doesn't take himself too seriously and throws himself into whatever: heard him on Just A Minute and he reminded me how much it would improve my local pub if he dropped in occasionally

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Timmie The Dog | 23 September 2011 - 12:49pm

Morrissey

is never boring.

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eddie g | 21 September 2011 - 11:18am

I Wouldn't

agree with that

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Pat Carty | 21 September 2011 - 12:13pm

John Cooper Clarke

I have seen him interviewed by Peter Hook and I was captivated by him. The look, the anecdotes, the accent. Rivetting stuff.

Also from personal experience, Johnny Marr. When I met him at the Southbank Centre we chatted for about fifteen minutes and unfortunately I had to make MY excuses thanks to a restless FPO. How embarrassing. Top bloke though. We chatted mainly about Jon Savage as I had a copy of England's Dreaming in my hand (now signed by Johnny thanks to the FPO's eye liner pencil).

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jimmyshoes01 | 21 September 2011 - 11:30am

JCC's accent

is available from Halfords in 50ml cans. There's a Biohazard warning on the tin.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 21 September 2011 - 12:28pm

You can buy it in Halfords...

... in Salford.

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Billybob Dylan | 21 September 2011 - 3:02pm

In Salford Halfords

it's in 500 ml tins. Free disposable gloves and a little face mask.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 21 September 2011 - 7:49pm

from Radio 4

Peter Hook interviews JCC

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Sour Crout | 21 September 2011 - 12:41pm

I would walk over hot coals

just to hear Johnny Clarke say...

"SHARDS"

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Moose the Mooche | 21 September 2011 - 10:12pm

Gah! That's bugging me now...

Where was that story from??

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stimpy | 22 September 2011 - 11:49am

It was in the Graun

or the Indie, on a Saturday late in 2009. Can't remember who told the story.

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Moose the Mooche | 22 September 2011 - 1:00pm

"Beware - Shards".

Bruce Thomas - The Big Wheel.

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skirky | 22 September 2011 - 1:13pm

That's the one, thanks! :)

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stimpy | 22 September 2011 - 8:32pm

Christ!

I've got that book upstairs. Means I've read and enjoyed the same story in two completely different places, 15-odd years apart. That's what I call VFM!

The main things I remember about the Big Wheel are A) the van full of wellies, B) Pete Thomas attempting to "drink the rainbow" and C) Pete and Bruce trying repeatedly to get back on stage during "Shot With His Own Gun" and being foxed by its numerous false endings.

Frighteningly, owing to EC's notes on the CD reissues, that isn't even the funniest thing to have been written about the Attractions tours.

It also means that I've only ever heard JCC say "shards" IN MY HEAD. Imagination is a wonderful thing.

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Moose the Mooche | 23 September 2011 - 1:19pm

Boring?

I think Mr Rossi's position is safe........

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Dave Amitri | 21 September 2011 - 11:39am

Billy Bragg

Billy Bragg often enters interviews with a specific agenda (eg his Jail Guitar Doors project) but always seems quite willing to muck in and chat about anything. And has an opinion on everything, of course, which is no bad thing. He was a regular visitor to Simon Mayo's R5 show and always good value.

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Lying Doggo | 21 September 2011 - 12:16pm

Joe Brown

always worth a listen,tells a fantastic story and having met him,is an absolute Gent.
Here he is with Danny Baker

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Sour Crout | 21 September 2011 - 12:34pm

I'll second....

.....Joe Brown.

Never really seen a full interview with him in the music press either.
He's always granted a half-page 'where are they now?' style feature rather than the real deal.
And remember this is the guy who headlined over The Beatles and toured with Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochran.....and is funny!

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ranger | 21 September 2011 - 12:41pm

At the risk...

...of boring everyone, I'll third Joe Brown. Still great live and a great talker. I'd love to see an interview with him in Word.

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JoLean | 21 September 2011 - 2:57pm

I'll fourth him

I'd love to him him uncensored on the podcast. Please.

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Lunaman | 21 September 2011 - 7:01pm

now that my friend

is a brilliant idea. have an up

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Sour Crout | 21 September 2011 - 8:54pm

Noel Gallagher

Noel Gallagher is very good. He's done a bit of radio in the last couple of years, I've really enjoyed it.

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kidpresentable | 21 September 2011 - 12:36pm

Basically, then, "What have the Romans ever

done for us" again... All rock stars are poor conversationalists except (insert long list of names here). I can't offer any names because I've never really been in a position to have a conversation with a rock star. I did once exchange a few words with Elvis Costello at a George Jones concert, though, and he was a very pleasant bloke.

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Mark JF | 21 September 2011 - 12:46pm

Ian Anderson...

...is by far the most erudite rock star I've ever interviewed: witty, self-deprecating but also assured and capable of speaking at length in easily transcribable 'complete written sentences'.

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Colin H | 21 September 2011 - 1:57pm

Shame about his band. ;-)

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Bob | 21 September 2011 - 2:40pm

Have an up from me Bob...

...I just KNEW someone would say that, and they did!

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Colin H | 21 September 2011 - 2:47pm

Cheeky young sweep

Have an up from me too, then listen to "Dharma for one" until bed time.

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Twangothan | 21 September 2011 - 2:54pm

Surely you go too far, Twang!

...let compassion be our watchword!

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Colin H | 21 September 2011 - 3:13pm

Tough love, Colin

Tough love. They'll thank us for it one day.

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Twangothan | 21 September 2011 - 3:41pm

Shame on you Sir

Dharma For One is wonderful. Someday the sun won't shine for you!

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geacher53 | 21 September 2011 - 7:44pm

So, off the top of my head, James Brown,

Captain Sensible, John Lennon, David Bowie, Dave Lee Roth, Little Richard, Iggy, Jarvis and Prince are all more boring than Francis Rossi? Shurely shome mishtake?

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Mr Fade | 21 September 2011 - 2:14pm

I love Prince...

I will gladly pay out large sums of f-olding money to hear him play, I will defend his shonky quality control and turn a blind eye to his occasionally rotten attitude to fans. Hell, I liked 'The Rainbow Children'...

...but he's exactly the self-absorbed, monosyllabic, fun-free interviewee that the OP desctibes.

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sam and janet e... | 21 September 2011 - 7:35pm

You need to check out

some of the more recent TV interviews floating about on Youtube. I think he's lightened up and become more relaxed about being interviewed over the last few years, although he still retains an innate shyness.

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Black Type | 21 September 2011 - 10:58pm

Sense Of Humour

Verging on the pisstake and so dry it's almost not there. But watch him being interviewed for those moments when his eyes twinkle so bright you could see them from space. I think there's a lot of people who come across as being difficult in interviews are actually taking the piss somewhat. Still wouldn't want to interview some of them though.

On the other hand, having worked in various studios a lot of the boring monosyllabic interviewees are quite often exactly the same in person behind closed doors.

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SimonL | 22 September 2011 - 1:11pm

I think the truth is that...

...Francis Rossi is good at being 'Francis Rossi, in the same way as Michael Caine is good at being 'Michael Caine'. There are certain people who can seem to embody, simultaneously, both an ongoing creative entity and a loveable self-parody/caricature of themselves - there's two examples. It means they'll never be short of an interview opportunity or willing audioence.

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Colin H | 21 September 2011 - 2:38pm

Despite his image...

...Marilyn Manson often comes across as erudite, learned and with some very well-thought-out opinions on many subjects.

He spoke particularly well during Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine regarding censorship and the way music was blamed for so many of society's ills.

On the subject of interviewees, but not necessarily musicians, last night we saw a repeat of Donald Sutherland on Graham Norton's show. DS rarely gives a dull interview - he seems to have been everywhere and done everything, and always leaves an impression like the slightly mad uncle you always wished you had, if only for the sheer number of anecdotes you could tell about him.

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MrLovegrove | 21 September 2011 - 5:12pm

John Lydon

If you get him on a good day, and give him the right subject: Intelligent, articulaute, opinianated & engaged

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Rigid Digit | 21 September 2011 - 7:44pm

Jerry Garcia

Incredibly well-read character who remained completely grounded and was, allegedly never boring.

Whatever you think of his music, his self-deprecation put Paul Morley to shame, can't be too bad eh?

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James EB | 21 September 2011 - 7:53pm

Lemmy and Ted Nugent

Never heard the Lemster give a bad interview. He always cracks some dry humour or comes out with some straightforward, matter of fact common sense about the music, the business, drugs, women or anything else for that matter. Like this one.

and Ted Nugent, whom I've seen live a few times, is always good value and a touch crazy in an affable way. He is course the darling of the right wing US talk shows where he is given free rein against all things liberal, Obama, gun restrictions etc. Piers Morgan gave him a good run for his money a while ago and I called it a score draw. But my favourite sequence is this one: Ted on the subject of weapons ownership and the 2nd amendment.

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rocker43 | 21 September 2011 - 8:45pm

Noddy Holder

Always used to enjoy his stuff with Radcliffe & Maconie.

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Red Umpire | 21 September 2011 - 8:53pm

Wreckless Eric

He's bonkers and I don't really like any of his music very much. But he's hilairious, a real one-off.

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Moose the Mooche | 21 September 2011 - 10:10pm

Luke Haines and Cathal Coughlan

and another nod for Billy B and Noel G.

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badartdog | 21 September 2011 - 10:31pm

Marilyn Manson

Whilst he's a bit of a knob, I've seen a couple of great interviews with him. Very thoughtful. He comes over very well in Bowling For Columbine.

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Lenny Law | 21 September 2011 - 10:43pm

Was going to say MM.

Mentioned this on this here blog before in years past but I had the pleasure (and it really was) of a random meeting with MM in The Savoy Bar ten or so years back when I was on a job trying to engage with a ropey Premier League footballer and arrange a sponsorship deal with a certain brand of football boot.

He chatted away for ages. Some mundane family stuff, then getting really animated talking about Depeche Mode and Marc Almond's canon (remember him being particularly fond of Last Night in Sodom and the Mamba's stuff). Exploded my preconceptions completely though I have heard before and since that he is an utter arse to his crew and band.

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Six Dog | 22 September 2011 - 11:37am

Obvious, but the beatles

Obvious, but the beatles came across well. Wynton Marselles (ok a jazzer and I know I have probably spelled his name wrong) always engages.

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woodface | 21 September 2011 - 10:57pm

I'd say

Shane MacGowan would be interesting and entertaining if only you could understand him, plus ex-communard Richard Coles (the rev) is a very good presenter on Radio 4 on Saturday, interested in the guests and with a fair bit to say himself.

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Francis Barry-Walsh | 21 September 2011 - 11:39pm

Shane MacGowan

is great when interviewed - I find him really engaging & despite sometimes contradicting himself 3 times in a sentence - he is a fascinating interviewee.

A Drink With Shane MacGowan is an essential read for any music fan. It is just him and his partner Victoria Mary Clarke talking to each other as an informal interview. There are some moments where he doesnt come across as a particularly nice person but you feel like it is him talking & not a caricature - I am sure is the case for a lot of interviews.

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seanioio | 22 September 2011 - 1:05pm

Don't laugh but

George Michael always gives good interview, even though interviewers always mine the same boring seam with him. He is open and candid and it appears that it is not like it is part of his showbusiness-self.

Ups also for Elton, Green G, Partridge, Wakeman, Tennant, B George, Noel, Tilbrook, Oakey, McCluskey.

Even on this day of mourning, I have to admit to Michael Stipe being a disappointment on the interview front.

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kb | 22 September 2011 - 11:36am

Boy George and George Michael

Showing that everyone mellows with age and becomes more comfortable in their own skin.

Btw, has anyone seen Boy George recently. He looks absolutely fantastic and in the peak of health.

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Six Dog | 22 September 2011 - 11:39am

Mark E. Smith

His interviews are never boring. They're either hilarious or toe-curlingly confrontational.

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Spartacus Mills | 22 September 2011 - 11:38am

Pete Townshend

Can be a very thoughtful, articulate and comprehensive interviewee, although he is often asked the same set of questions. Robert Wyatt is also clearly a very intelligent and self-deprecating chap (if not your conventional 'rock star') which comes across in all the interviews I have read.

The slight reservation I have with listening to Rossi is the severe 'blokeishness' of many of the interviews, but hey-that not's him, it's me.

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pessoa | 22 September 2011 - 12:23pm

Georgie Fame

The entire history of British pop/rock/jazz (alternative version).

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Jorrox | 22 September 2011 - 12:28pm

Love him or loathe him

Nicky Wire. Always comes over as a nice bloke in interviews, despite being fairly outspoken.

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milkybarnick | 22 September 2011 - 12:38pm

Agree

I don't like MSPs music at all, but Nicky Wire is always great value. I also liked the fact that when he was this dress-wearing rebellious out-there guy, he loved nothing more than listening to FiveLive football and was a brilliant player in his day captaining his country.

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kb | 22 September 2011 - 2:11pm

Eh?

Nicky Wire captained Wales? Did he?

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JoLean | 22 September 2011 - 2:22pm

U16s or summat

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kb | 22 September 2011 - 6:21pm

Nicky Wire

Yeah, he captained Wales schoolboys and was tipped to be the Welsh Franz Beckenbaur, but a knee injury put paid to his career. In a field where Joey Barton is regarded as some sort of outspoken intellectual, I'd imagine the Wire would've caused quite a stir.

Brilliant cricketer too, apparently.

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Spartacus Mills | 22 September 2011 - 9:54pm

Macca

Many doubts about his later music - though he is what 70 odd now - and he's obviously got his interview strategies and war stories all worked out but all the same - he seems approachable and thoughtful

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FakeGeordie | 22 September 2011 - 1:24pm

Like Keith Richard....

.....always far more vibrant when asked about the 50s and rock 'n' roll (in Keith's case, the blues) than when asked about Sgt. Pepper's, Abbey Road etc.
Around the time of 'Run Devil Run' he gave some wonderful interviews because I think he was just more engaged with the subject.

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ranger | 22 September 2011 - 7:17pm

Rossi and Parfitt

for decades I have mixed these two guys up, and somehow I never get it right.
I always believe that this is Rick Parfitt:

and this is Francis Rossi

surely I've got it right this time, haven't I? Mrs duco01 has been taking the piss out of me for decades because of this...

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duco01 | 22 September 2011 - 1:35pm

Nah

Guy at the top is Alan Lancaster and the guy at the bottom is John "Stumpy" Pepys

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Six Dog | 22 September 2011 - 4:13pm

Madonna.

There's a fun packed, off the record, off piste giggle-a-thon 20 minutes of any journo's life right there and I won't hear of any dissent!

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Six Dog | 22 September 2011 - 4:11pm

Ok

she's all yours.

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illuminatus | 22 September 2011 - 5:33pm

Adele

She's just lovely. At interviews.

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ChaileyJem | 22 September 2011 - 4:34pm

Rick Wakeman...

A living, walking HORA.

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Patrick Crowther | 22 September 2011 - 5:14pm

Johnny Marr

always comes over as interesting when discussing music/guitar. On other topics I have no idea how he would fare.

Is there a preponderance of 'Mancs'/Northerners in this list?

Rod Argent is interesting.

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Badlands | 22 September 2011 - 5:27pm

Marr

Nobody admires Johnny Marr more than me, but as an interviewee I find him terribly dull. A bit like Keef Richards, in that he's so obsessed with the guitar that he bores me to death. Still, he had Mozzer to take care of the press!

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Spartacus Mills | 22 September 2011 - 9:56pm

There was an insinuation in Viz this month..

Regarding certain unsavoury Quoular habits. Involving hotel balconies, passers-by and group onanism.

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Lenny Law | 22 September 2011 - 10:23pm
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