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Is Francis Rossi the least boring rock star ever?
I caught Francis Rossi on Radio Four's Saturday Live the other day. They took him back to his old primary school. He was very good. He didn't say anything wildly memorable or witty but he entered into the spirit of the thing and reacted like a normal human being rather than in the way he felt a rock legend ought to.
It struck me that I've heard Francis Rossi interviewed hundreds of times over the years and he's never been boring. This makes him exceptional. Most rock stars, however interesting they are as artists, have very little to say on any subject other than themselves, their new album and a book they once read. They don't take part in a conversation. They deliver a monologue. In any other sphere of life this would mark them out as bores.
Who else can always be relied upon to just muck in and keep the bright red beach ball of conversation in the air?
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A Few
Janelle Monae and Julian Cope spring to mind straight way
Cope
His autobiographies remain my favourite rock reads, even though I've only ever heard two of his tracks (Reward & World Shut Your Mouth).
That's a sign of an interesting bloke.
If you'd like to hear more
Jehovakill & Peggy Suicide are excellent.
They tripped me out, those books.
Half way through my copy, the words all appeared upsidedown and back to front.
Ha!
Genuine LOL, as the kids say.
Having interviewed him
I would say yes. He - and Rick - were hilarious from before they even sat down to when we were saying our goodbyes.
Rossi
Yeah, he and Parfitt always strike me as good blokes. Don't take themselves seriously, like a laugh, grateful for where they are...etc
Not a rock star, but I'd nominate Wolves manager Mick McCarthy as another non-boring man. Good sense of humour, and refreshingly free of cant.
Presumably by "cant"...
... you mean Joey Barton.
They do seem alright
but i think they take themselves incredibly seriously, see the whole suing Radio 1 for not playing the worst record ever made "Fun,Fun,Fun".
Yeah but
I think that passed and they got over themselves a bit. I suppose if you'd been hammered for being talentless for so long you'd be a bit chippy. Now they're more like an institution they can relax a bit more, I think
Quo are past masters at PR
Look how many times they manage to keep themselves in the papers by either planting newsworthy stories or pulling stunts like Rock Til You Drop, playing on ships etc etc. I'm sure the R1 thing was just one of these.
Glad to see they've got over the Fun Fun Fun thing though. Watched their recent televised concert from Montreaux and it was the nearest thing I've seen to Proper Quo in a while. Even played oldies like "Softer Ride".
Get along
to their current live show. They tour all the time and are one of the best (and loudest) shows around. Loads of old stuff, no frills just 'heads down, no nonsense, mindless boogie'.
And....they have Roy Wood playing with them on this tour...
Going to see them at the Bournemouth Centre. Looking forward to it immensely.
He's a top bloke
is Rossi.
Funnily enough I was watching the Quo documentary Rock On... And On recently and he was very guarded and defensive in that. Possibly because he sensed the interviewer was looking to set him up for a traditional "Own up, Quo are crap, aren't they?" piss-take.
Someone else who always gives a great interview is Rick Wakeman. A very funny man, his tales of life on the road as the only meat-eating boozer in Yes are legendary.
From what I've heard of him
Nick Lowe's generally good value
David Crosby
Get David Crosby going on any subject and you get good value. Particularly politics!
Andy
Partridge.
Colin M
[tips titfer]
As always
Waits
Waits
I have been a fan of TW since for ever but I have to say I have never heard him utter anything other than cryptic rubbish designed to bolster his own image. Entertaining, yes, but hardly a conversation.
Bill Drummond
Always challenging.
you beat me to it
.. Bill Drummond was the first person who jumped to mind. I'd recommend his book '45' to anyone who hasn't yet read it
Rick Wakeman generally holds his own...
... on a wide variety of subjects.
On a different level perhaps, Brian Eno seems to engage. I suppose he suffers a bit from "smartest man in the room" syndrome but he certainly goes beyond "new album, last book I read" when he talks.
Noel Gallagher very often engages as well. He was brilliant with Russell Brand on the radio and, I suspect, would be the perfect foil on something like Talksport.
Let us also never forget Neil Tennant.
Another nod for Noel G.
Another nod for Noel G.
Whatever you think of his music (and I happen to rather like it) you can't deny he gives good mic.
I'd love to hear him on the podcast.
Noel
Yes, he's a smashing raconteur. I'd much rather go and see him do a spoken word tour than play his new material, which is worrying in a way.
100% agree
Noel is ALWAYS entertaining and his opinions seem sincere whether controversial or mainstream. He is someone utterly comfortable in his skin - knows his weaknesses and is not falsely modest about his successes. Also, he always gives the impression that he is in a fortunate place and massively appreciates being there.
Another vote here
very funny man - the three hour radio show he did on Radio 2 in for Dermot O' Leary (who was on X Factor duty) was great from start to finish.
The first line got me straight away - 'Dermot can't be with you today as he's busy lying to people who can't sing'
Gah
I forgot about that. Hope there's a recording online somewhere.
There is
I can't see what you've posted...
...due to work internet filters! But that's very helpful, thanks. I'll listen to it tonight when I get in.
more than holds his own
doesn't take himself too seriously and throws himself into whatever: heard him on Just A Minute and he reminded me how much it would improve my local pub if he dropped in occasionally
Morrissey
is never boring.
I Wouldn't
agree with that
John Cooper Clarke
I have seen him interviewed by Peter Hook and I was captivated by him. The look, the anecdotes, the accent. Rivetting stuff.
Also from personal experience, Johnny Marr. When I met him at the Southbank Centre we chatted for about fifteen minutes and unfortunately I had to make MY excuses thanks to a restless FPO. How embarrassing. Top bloke though. We chatted mainly about Jon Savage as I had a copy of England's Dreaming in my hand (now signed by Johnny thanks to the FPO's eye liner pencil).
JCC's accent
is available from Halfords in 50ml cans. There's a Biohazard warning on the tin.
You can buy it in Halfords...
... in Salford.
In Salford Halfords
it's in 500 ml tins. Free disposable gloves and a little face mask.
from Radio 4
Peter Hook interviews JCC
I would walk over hot coals
just to hear Johnny Clarke say...
"SHARDS"
Gah! That's bugging me now...
Where was that story from??
It was in the Graun
or the Indie, on a Saturday late in 2009. Can't remember who told the story.
"Beware - Shards".
Bruce Thomas - The Big Wheel.
That's the one, thanks! :)
Christ!
I've got that book upstairs. Means I've read and enjoyed the same story in two completely different places, 15-odd years apart. That's what I call VFM!
The main things I remember about the Big Wheel are A) the van full of wellies, B) Pete Thomas attempting to "drink the rainbow" and C) Pete and Bruce trying repeatedly to get back on stage during "Shot With His Own Gun" and being foxed by its numerous false endings.
Frighteningly, owing to EC's notes on the CD reissues, that isn't even the funniest thing to have been written about the Attractions tours.
It also means that I've only ever heard JCC say "shards" IN MY HEAD. Imagination is a wonderful thing.
Boring?
I think Mr Rossi's position is safe........
Billy Bragg
Billy Bragg often enters interviews with a specific agenda (eg his Jail Guitar Doors project) but always seems quite willing to muck in and chat about anything. And has an opinion on everything, of course, which is no bad thing. He was a regular visitor to Simon Mayo's R5 show and always good value.
Joe Brown
always worth a listen,tells a fantastic story and having met him,is an absolute Gent.
Here he is with Danny Baker
I'll second....
.....Joe Brown.
Never really seen a full interview with him in the music press either.
He's always granted a half-page 'where are they now?' style feature rather than the real deal.
And remember this is the guy who headlined over The Beatles and toured with Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochran.....and is funny!
At the risk...
...of boring everyone, I'll third Joe Brown. Still great live and a great talker. I'd love to see an interview with him in Word.
I'll fourth him
I'd love to him him uncensored on the podcast. Please.
now that my friend
is a brilliant idea. have an up
Noel Gallagher
Noel Gallagher is very good. He's done a bit of radio in the last couple of years, I've really enjoyed it.
Basically, then, "What have the Romans ever
done for us" again... All rock stars are poor conversationalists except (insert long list of names here). I can't offer any names because I've never really been in a position to have a conversation with a rock star. I did once exchange a few words with Elvis Costello at a George Jones concert, though, and he was a very pleasant bloke.
Ian Anderson...
...is by far the most erudite rock star I've ever interviewed: witty, self-deprecating but also assured and capable of speaking at length in easily transcribable 'complete written sentences'.
Shame about his band. ;-)
Have an up from me Bob...
...I just KNEW someone would say that, and they did!
Cheeky young sweep
Have an up from me too, then listen to "Dharma for one" until bed time.
Surely you go too far, Twang!
...let compassion be our watchword!
Tough love, Colin
Tough love. They'll thank us for it one day.
Shame on you Sir
Dharma For One is wonderful. Someday the sun won't shine for you!
So, off the top of my head, James Brown,
Captain Sensible, John Lennon, David Bowie, Dave Lee Roth, Little Richard, Iggy, Jarvis and Prince are all more boring than Francis Rossi? Shurely shome mishtake?
I love Prince...
I will gladly pay out large sums of f-olding money to hear him play, I will defend his shonky quality control and turn a blind eye to his occasionally rotten attitude to fans. Hell, I liked 'The Rainbow Children'...
...but he's exactly the self-absorbed, monosyllabic, fun-free interviewee that the OP desctibes.
You need to check out
some of the more recent TV interviews floating about on Youtube. I think he's lightened up and become more relaxed about being interviewed over the last few years, although he still retains an innate shyness.
Sense Of Humour
Verging on the pisstake and so dry it's almost not there. But watch him being interviewed for those moments when his eyes twinkle so bright you could see them from space. I think there's a lot of people who come across as being difficult in interviews are actually taking the piss somewhat. Still wouldn't want to interview some of them though.
On the other hand, having worked in various studios a lot of the boring monosyllabic interviewees are quite often exactly the same in person behind closed doors.
I think the truth is that...
...Francis Rossi is good at being 'Francis Rossi, in the same way as Michael Caine is good at being 'Michael Caine'. There are certain people who can seem to embody, simultaneously, both an ongoing creative entity and a loveable self-parody/caricature of themselves - there's two examples. It means they'll never be short of an interview opportunity or willing audioence.
Despite his image...
...Marilyn Manson often comes across as erudite, learned and with some very well-thought-out opinions on many subjects.
He spoke particularly well during Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine regarding censorship and the way music was blamed for so many of society's ills.
On the subject of interviewees, but not necessarily musicians, last night we saw a repeat of Donald Sutherland on Graham Norton's show. DS rarely gives a dull interview - he seems to have been everywhere and done everything, and always leaves an impression like the slightly mad uncle you always wished you had, if only for the sheer number of anecdotes you could tell about him.
John Lydon
If you get him on a good day, and give him the right subject: Intelligent, articulaute, opinianated & engaged
Jerry Garcia
Incredibly well-read character who remained completely grounded and was, allegedly never boring.
Whatever you think of his music, his self-deprecation put Paul Morley to shame, can't be too bad eh?
Lemmy and Ted Nugent
Never heard the Lemster give a bad interview. He always cracks some dry humour or comes out with some straightforward, matter of fact common sense about the music, the business, drugs, women or anything else for that matter. Like this one.
and Ted Nugent, whom I've seen live a few times, is always good value and a touch crazy in an affable way. He is course the darling of the right wing US talk shows where he is given free rein against all things liberal, Obama, gun restrictions etc. Piers Morgan gave him a good run for his money a while ago and I called it a score draw. But my favourite sequence is this one: Ted on the subject of weapons ownership and the 2nd amendment.
Noddy Holder
Always used to enjoy his stuff with Radcliffe & Maconie.
Wreckless Eric
He's bonkers and I don't really like any of his music very much. But he's hilairious, a real one-off.
Luke Haines and Cathal Coughlan
and another nod for Billy B and Noel G.
Marilyn Manson
Whilst he's a bit of a knob, I've seen a couple of great interviews with him. Very thoughtful. He comes over very well in Bowling For Columbine.
Was going to say MM.
Mentioned this on this here blog before in years past but I had the pleasure (and it really was) of a random meeting with MM in The Savoy Bar ten or so years back when I was on a job trying to engage with a ropey Premier League footballer and arrange a sponsorship deal with a certain brand of football boot.
He chatted away for ages. Some mundane family stuff, then getting really animated talking about Depeche Mode and Marc Almond's canon (remember him being particularly fond of Last Night in Sodom and the Mamba's stuff). Exploded my preconceptions completely though I have heard before and since that he is an utter arse to his crew and band.
Obvious, but the beatles
Obvious, but the beatles came across well. Wynton Marselles (ok a jazzer and I know I have probably spelled his name wrong) always engages.
I'd say
Shane MacGowan would be interesting and entertaining if only you could understand him, plus ex-communard Richard Coles (the rev) is a very good presenter on Radio 4 on Saturday, interested in the guests and with a fair bit to say himself.
Shane MacGowan
is great when interviewed - I find him really engaging & despite sometimes contradicting himself 3 times in a sentence - he is a fascinating interviewee.
A Drink With Shane MacGowan is an essential read for any music fan. It is just him and his partner Victoria Mary Clarke talking to each other as an informal interview. There are some moments where he doesnt come across as a particularly nice person but you feel like it is him talking & not a caricature - I am sure is the case for a lot of interviews.
Don't laugh but
George Michael always gives good interview, even though interviewers always mine the same boring seam with him. He is open and candid and it appears that it is not like it is part of his showbusiness-self.
Ups also for Elton, Green G, Partridge, Wakeman, Tennant, B George, Noel, Tilbrook, Oakey, McCluskey.
Even on this day of mourning, I have to admit to Michael Stipe being a disappointment on the interview front.
Boy George and George Michael
Showing that everyone mellows with age and becomes more comfortable in their own skin.
Btw, has anyone seen Boy George recently. He looks absolutely fantastic and in the peak of health.
Mark E. Smith
His interviews are never boring. They're either hilarious or toe-curlingly confrontational.
Pete Townshend
Can be a very thoughtful, articulate and comprehensive interviewee, although he is often asked the same set of questions. Robert Wyatt is also clearly a very intelligent and self-deprecating chap (if not your conventional 'rock star') which comes across in all the interviews I have read.
The slight reservation I have with listening to Rossi is the severe 'blokeishness' of many of the interviews, but hey-that not's him, it's me.
Georgie Fame
The entire history of British pop/rock/jazz (alternative version).
Love him or loathe him
Nicky Wire. Always comes over as a nice bloke in interviews, despite being fairly outspoken.
Agree
I don't like MSPs music at all, but Nicky Wire is always great value. I also liked the fact that when he was this dress-wearing rebellious out-there guy, he loved nothing more than listening to FiveLive football and was a brilliant player in his day captaining his country.
Eh?
Nicky Wire captained Wales? Did he?
U16s or summat
Nicky Wire
Yeah, he captained Wales schoolboys and was tipped to be the Welsh Franz Beckenbaur, but a knee injury put paid to his career. In a field where Joey Barton is regarded as some sort of outspoken intellectual, I'd imagine the Wire would've caused quite a stir.
Brilliant cricketer too, apparently.
Macca
Many doubts about his later music - though he is what 70 odd now - and he's obviously got his interview strategies and war stories all worked out but all the same - he seems approachable and thoughtful
Like Keith Richard....
.....always far more vibrant when asked about the 50s and rock 'n' roll (in Keith's case, the blues) than when asked about Sgt. Pepper's, Abbey Road etc.
Around the time of 'Run Devil Run' he gave some wonderful interviews because I think he was just more engaged with the subject.
Rossi and Parfitt
for decades I have mixed these two guys up, and somehow I never get it right.
I always believe that this is Rick Parfitt:
and this is Francis Rossi
surely I've got it right this time, haven't I? Mrs duco01 has been taking the piss out of me for decades because of this...
Nah
Guy at the top is Alan Lancaster and the guy at the bottom is John "Stumpy" Pepys
Madonna.
There's a fun packed, off the record, off piste giggle-a-thon 20 minutes of any journo's life right there and I won't hear of any dissent!
Ok
she's all yours.
Adele
She's just lovely. At interviews.
Rick Wakeman...
A living, walking HORA.
Johnny Marr
always comes over as interesting when discussing music/guitar. On other topics I have no idea how he would fare.
Is there a preponderance of 'Mancs'/Northerners in this list?
Rod Argent is interesting.
Marr
Nobody admires Johnny Marr more than me, but as an interviewee I find him terribly dull. A bit like Keef Richards, in that he's so obsessed with the guitar that he bores me to death. Still, he had Mozzer to take care of the press!
There was an insinuation in Viz this month..
Regarding certain unsavoury Quoular habits. Involving hotel balconies, passers-by and group onanism.