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iPod and MP3 musings

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My three year old iPod Nano, 2 gig, recently died. It originally cost me £100 or thereabouts, so I thought it was probably worth my while to buy a proper iPod Classic, which set me back about another £50 and gave me 120 gigs.

Firstly, the sound was noticeably better, fuller and brighter and louder (I'm using the same headphones I used with the Nano). It was almost like having my ears syringed. Stereo images were sharper, instruments came out clearer. So far so good.

And then there is that 120 gigs. I filled it. And still didn't have enough room for my full MP3 library, never mind all the cds and vinyl I haven't converted. But that still means I have 22000 songs in my pocket. Two months of continuous listening, never hearing the same song twice. Why do I need this much music? Simple answer is probably I don't. I'm never going to listen to it all. Never. There simply aren't enough hours in the day when I could. So what do I want with it all?

It's not even that it covers a particularly wide selection either. About 50 gigs of it is soul and reggae from the 60s and 70s. It does mean I have a pretty good soul and reggae personal radio show going on when I want to. But even all of that I can't get through.

Do you remember the days when you only owned a few albums? And knew everyone of them inside and out. Sometimes, despite being blown away by technology, I do think things were better then!

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Must Admit

Back in the seventies when I had an average sized (300 ish) record collection I could have named every track and hummed along to every nuance of them.Now,30 years later having a ridiculously large sized collection I have probably only played 75% of them more than a couple of times.Perhaps nowadays less is more.

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Doug B | 19 June 2009 - 2:01pm

When we were younger

not only could we name the order of the LP but who wrote the song and who played on it. Now I don't even know the name of the tracks on the cd anymore. I suppose we're all overloaded with media now because of technology and affluence and therefore, simply don't have the time to take it all in. We try to do everything and end up finishing nothing.

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Pinmonkey | 19 June 2009 - 9:30pm

This is all true

but how many of us are prepared to batten down the hatches and say enough is enough? I'm adding at a rate of 20 tracks a day, on average, week in week out, weeding out a few, it's true. And let alone recognise, there are probably songs I barely hear twice, however much I liked 'em at rip.
I could always stop reading this blog, this magazine, all the others and stop, stuck in now.
Don't want to.
There you have it.

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Retropath2 | 19 June 2009 - 2:12pm

I'm with you

except for the weeding bit.

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Molesworth | 19 June 2009 - 2:25pm

Nothing

brings this home more than when you hear a track on the radio & think I must get that & find you already have. Happened to me the other day with a Michelle Shocked song. I love having my 180g ipod on shuffle in the car & playing guess the artist, doubt I get more than 75%.

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pedr0 | 19 June 2009 - 2:13pm

I agree

When I have my ipod classic on shuffle in the car just about every third track I don't recognise. I end up scrolling up and down to recognise an artist and then guess who it was based on the letter of the alphabet the artist I recognise starts with.

Always throws me though as first names are used to list the tracks alphabetically!

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Uncle Wheaty | 19 June 2009 - 2:22pm

... pulling over

...to the side of the road first, of course.

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Steerpike | 19 June 2009 - 3:10pm

I can do it via the steering wheel

So I am legal!

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Uncle Wheaty | 19 June 2009 - 4:49pm

Of course....

You can tell the iPod to sort based on the artists last name - at least with more recent iPod models anyway. It does mean manually telling iTunes how to sort each and every artist, but it can be done.

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JQW | 19 June 2009 - 3:16pm

one of the reasons why ..

..i lived for many a year in bliss with my 500Mb mp3 player.
it meant i kept to within a working limit and forced me to listen to albums more than once.
unfortunately, the beast got poorly earlier this year, and my wife got me a 2Gb replacement.
which even now, feels way too much space.
however, i am finding old habits die so i rarely put more than a couple of albums on it.
less is more.

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ireallylovemusic | 19 June 2009 - 4:49pm

Suspended

I currently have 3,781 tracks sitting in a folder on iTunes which I have entitled "Suspended" as there's just no room for them on my 80GB Classic. I'm loathe to remove stuff I've only heard once, as most of the best music I find can take a while to grow on you, but what can you do.

If Apple don't come up with a model with a minimum of 250GB this year, I think I'll sue...

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KDH | 19 June 2009 - 7:34pm

Does anyone know

If it's possible to sync a random selection of tracks to fill available space? So if you've got 150GB of music, iTunes will sync a random 80GB?

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Fraser Lewry | 19 June 2009 - 7:36pm

yes, in the playlist options you can select what limits size

Create a dynamic playlist, where playlist is Music, and tick the option limit to 80 (drop down)Gb selected by (dropdown) Random.

That will just pick 80GB at random from everything you have.

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el hombre malo | 19 June 2009 - 7:51pm

Nice one

Thanks

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Fraser Lewry | 19 June 2009 - 8:27pm

It's a shame they don't have a...

"Just fill all the empty space with random tracks" option that kicks in once it's sync'ed your playlists

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stimpy | 19 June 2009 - 10:00pm

"just the moon ? no stars ??"

Garn!

you'll need to calculate it yourself - you won't know what space you have unless you do a 2 phase refresh.

so - have a "Poly Filler" playlist where you set the size.

Sync your ipod without "Poly Filler".

Check the amount of free space.

Set "Poly Filler" to be the right size.

Add that to the playlists you sync to your ipod.

Re-sync

(off-topic - did you get the rest of your photos fixed - Mott have disappeared?)

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el hombre malo | 19 June 2009 - 10:06pm

Pfft...

I've already written an Applescript to do *that* automatically :-)

I was suggesting it was an option within iTunes itself

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stimpy | 19 June 2009 - 10:08pm

how many people would use that function ?

I have colleagues who can't understand why I have a 120Gb ipod because they can't fill a 16Gb one.

"how do you know what you have?"

answer - I don't, but I like having loads of music, old and new.

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el hombre malo | 19 June 2009 - 10:12pm

Two?

Me and you :-)

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stimpy | 20 June 2009 - 1:46pm

My old 20 does that automatically

It says there isn't room, do I want a selection. My newer 80 doesn't. I too wait for a revival of the 160 or bigger, as a 120 would be full in weeks, with 24,446 songs in residence. I make do with temporary genre fixes. This week I will be jazz etc. Dance was a short but enjoyable week, easy listening shorter still.

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Retropath2 | 20 June 2009 - 4:10pm

but, presumably, that's a selection

from the playlists you've set to auto-sync?

It's useful to be able to sync all my selected playlists then, when it's put all my chosen tracks/podcasts n the iPod, it then fils up the empty space with random tracks from the library which aren't on my playlists (if that all makes sense)

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stimpy | 21 June 2009 - 12:11pm

I tend not to have playlists

Apart from the selections for the nano (the so-called Mrs Path jogpod) and the tiddler, name forgot, and the selection currently "chosen" for the 5 and the genre chosen for the 20. The auto sync is then only selected to pick up which is applicable.

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Retropath2 | 21 June 2009 - 12:57pm

It can be music overload but.....

your ears are always open to new stuff.

When I first started collecting, I was like the others on here. I knew every word to every album and then you could only listen at home.

I'd not say they were better days, you relied on the radio and reviews and how many album duffers did we buy through the years on the strength of a killer single?

I think those early albums always stay with you, becoming a comforter and reminder of what got you started, but I wouldn't change now for then.

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anythingcanhappen | 20 June 2009 - 9:39am

old folks

I do love it when you guys relive the seventies. It almost makes me yearn for a time before I was born. Pretty good going.

I have a 160GB (though this only takes up to 147GB) and have filled that. I'm trying to get through everything before the end of the year. It is possible, you just need to listen to a lot of music.

The number of albums I know inside and out, is, granted, probably less than when you were young-ens. But that doesn't mean I like the rest less, just that I have a very wide taste.

And that's not a bad thing is it?

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badger_king | 21 June 2009 - 2:20pm

This thread seems to confirm

This thread seems to confirm my theory that the principal activity of the music fan these days is not listening to music but curating their collection. I love modern technology for giving access to such a broad musical spectrum but I miss the joy of being able to sing along to every track on an album. Swings and roundabouts, innit?

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AdamRob | 21 June 2009 - 10:08pm

I've had that feeling before, too

There are times where it seems all my energy and time goes on getting more stuff rather than listening to stuff I already have : that "record fair" feeling of "if I don't buy it now I'll never see it again".

The amount of music under my roof would have been unimaginable to me 30 years ago.

Right, back to listening to the stockpile!

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el hombre malo | 21 June 2009 - 10:27pm

Ditto

and every time you need more space, it couldn't possibly involve reducing the collection.

You don't really need that do you love? etc etc.

If it weren't for the ipod, I wouldn't listen to half of it, but I'd never get rid of it.

Then again, the spawn would probably sell it all on a car boot for a tenner when I snuff it.

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anythingcanhappen | 21 June 2009 - 10:43pm

spotify/music magpie

i've been purging my collection
maybe 4000 cds binned or sent to music magpie
and with spotify (and more shelf space) i haven't bought music in months
but i'm probably hearing more than ever

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richard anothermusic | 21 June 2009 - 11:18pm

music magpie

I had a look at it and at the prices they were offering would have bought the CDs back again, eg The Van Der Graaf Generator Box for £4? GTFOOH.

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Neil Jung | 22 June 2009 - 2:23pm

Obsessive, retentive and infatuated by the new

Being all of the above, I acquire far more new music than I can reasonably listen to and have heaps of stuff on my Mac/iPod that I may have listened once, if at all.

This used to actually bother me, until I realised that it's not hurting anyone, is a cheaper hobby than smoking, and means I will dig up the occasional gem more often than if I was more picky.

I do make an effort every now and then to go back to something that didn't grab me straight away to see if my opinion has changed and I often rediscover good stuff that way - Howling Bells, Interpol, Fleet Foxes and Woodpigeon are all recent(ish) examples of that. And sometimes my wife will like something I've downloaded a lot more than me (The Decemberists, for instance), so then I can at least take solace from the fact that someone in the household is getting value from my whim purchases.

I do think that Spotify (or a similar service) might break my acquisition habit, but as long as I am seconded to New Zealand, I'll have to wait to find out!

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Merv | 22 June 2009 - 4:46am

Thank you!

"This used to actually bother me, until I realised that it's not hurting anyone, is a cheaper hobby than smoking, and means I will dig up the occasional gem more often than if I was more picky."

No objections to me stealing this quote and using it in justification to the GLW / kids on regular occasions is there?!

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Molesworth | 22 June 2009 - 9:01am

acquisitions

I like Dials_mavis' view of curating my collection. As I did a history degree, I can now see why I have such a vast musical library - it is my museum effectively.

I also like collecting the entire works of artists I like, as sometimes you discover some absolute gems that you wouldn't necessarily have come across otherwise.

For example:-

Fatboy Slim - Praise You (Mike D And Adrock Remix)
Radiohead - Gagging Order
Oasis - Falling Down (The Prodigy Version)
mum - The Amateur Show
Mos Def - Ms. Fat Booty (DJ Kim Morrison Remix)

Tracks I really love, but without having gone that extra mile and getting stuff I hadn't heard of an artist I would never have discovered.

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badger_king | 22 June 2009 - 2:17pm
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