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In Search Of Delayed Bass Syndrome

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Nick Lowe told me that he learned all about mastering records from "December 63" by the Four Seasons. It doesn't have that many instruments on it but nevertheless it punches through the radio like very few records do because it is perfectly arranged. I twittered about this yesterday and Gary Parkinson pointed out that it is also a great example of what he calls Delayed Bass Syndrome. I confess I'd never thought of this myself but he's absolutely right. Until the bass comes in the record hasn't really started and it's the resolution of the tension that makes it so satisfying. And it arrives at a very interesting point, in the middle of a vocal line. I'm sure there are bass players out there who can come up with other well-known examples.

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Honky Tonk Women

Bass comes in for the chorus. Comes out again for the next verse too. Delayed Bass syndrome X2.

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DanP | 11 October 2009 - 11:06am

Lawks, you're right



Never noticed.

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David Hepworth | 11 October 2009 - 12:01pm

That is

a very good bass-line, not that I know much about bass-lines. I actually bought the latest Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons Best Of the other day; because I felt I should own a copy and not just borrow my Dad's every so often.

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Tom | 11 October 2009 - 11:07am

Ian Gomm


I wonder if Nick and Ian discussed this while in Brinsley Schwarz? Bass really lifts the song when it kicks in at 24 seconds.

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Dixie Flyer | 11 October 2009 - 11:09am

It's only a brief wait

and as guitar player, I love the intro to The Waterboys' 'Fisherman's Blues'. A great opening acoustic rhythm base with delicate mandolin strokes, the fiddle hovering, and then swooping down as the bass guitar kicks in like an adrenalin shot, with great sturdy pulses, making the song jump to life with a wallop and you're off.

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RobertC | 11 October 2009 - 11:16am

Alright Now

goes on for a bit before the bass kicks in in the chorus - wasn't it written by the bass player?

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Macca99 | 11 October 2009 - 12:08pm

It was indeed

He knew less is always more.

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David Hepworth | 11 October 2009 - 12:09pm

and he was about 12

when he did it

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Sheev | 11 October 2009 - 4:56pm

Lola

The Kinks' Lola has a delayed bass part also - if memory serves it comes in as Ray is spelling out COLA.

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garyt | 11 October 2009 - 2:46pm

Aphex Twin

Ageispolis on 'Selected Ambient Works I'. I remember hearing this for the first time. When the subsonic bass finally kicked in, my speakers nearly imploded.

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Slotbadger | 11 October 2009 - 2:52pm

Subsonic bass

How do you know it's kicked in? :-)

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stimpy | 11 October 2009 - 8:03pm

Mm. Good point! Well, it was

Mm. Good point! Well, it was when the house sank a few feet in its foundations and the cat began levitating that I could tell.

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Slotbadger | 12 October 2009 - 2:23am

Ooo, good speakers! :-)

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stimpy | 12 October 2009 - 2:33pm

Our House - Madness

I know they don't wait *that* long, but the 'awoowoo' slide up the neck kicks serious bottom. Best enjoyed on the twelve inch version where a cautious increase in volume as you're not quite sure where the bass is can catch you and your sub-woofers totally and delightfully unprepared.

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skirky | 11 October 2009 - 3:40pm

Smoke on The Water

Working from dulled memory here, but I think Smoke On The Water really lifts when the bass enters. The song almost sounds like it speeds up, but that is probably just the listener's heart beat.

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kb | 11 October 2009 - 4:27pm

December '63 is unusual

In that the bass carries the instrumental melody line and is consequently pushed much further forward in the mix. I've been trying to think of other examples of this. Black Cherry's Play That Funky Music probably is one.

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Lenny Law | 11 October 2009 - 4:52pm

Clean-Up Woman - Betty Wright

A record of unalloyed genius - exhibits early onset Delayed Bass Syndrome

http://open.spotify.com/track/4iFIR2kpNw8yvmZr1o4SJP

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Sheev | 11 October 2009 - 4:59pm

'Baba O'Riley' by The Who...

The Ox only joins the action 1 minute 16 seconds in...


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Patrick Crowther | 11 October 2009 - 5:03pm

When Doves Cry - Prince

Bass never arrives at all, beat that.

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Pat Carty | 11 October 2009 - 5:40pm

I've always thought that...

It would benefit from the arrival of a bit of bass.
But then, I'm not a tiny purple genius...

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Adman | 11 October 2009 - 6:52pm

Paisley

Park.

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DanP | 11 October 2009 - 7:51pm

Stupidly Happy

by the legend that is XTC. A wonderful 1.22 before Colin Moulding comes in to make it an even more wonderful 6.07.
If I knew how to, I would post a youtube clip for your delectation

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stinglikeabee | 11 October 2009 - 5:58pm

Allow me


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nicktf | 11 October 2009 - 6:26pm

Diamonds Are Forever

It's not that there's a total absence of bass in the first 1:24 of Shirley Bassey's 'Diamonds Are Forever', but it's at this point that everything else drops out, and the bass heralds a gear change:

Shirley Bassey – Diamonds Are Forever: http://open.spotify.com/track/78hUEhIJAIMIckpzmXGHsj

I absolutely love this!

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Nick Orton | 11 October 2009 - 7:29pm

As usual, David Bowie is etc

And when the bleedin bass does bother to turn up - it's only like the best bleedin bass riff ever.

Eh? Wot is it? "Secret Life of Arabia" - 'course

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Sheev | 11 October 2009 - 7:31pm

Jealous Guy

When Klaus Voorman's full-fat bass slots into the melody, in the second verse. What a brilliant bassist he was.

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Slotbadger | 12 October 2009 - 2:29am

Nutbush City Limits - Ike and Tina Turner

The bass comes in at about 00.36, after the first verse and chorus.

Brilliant arrangement by, presumably, ike.


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Mousey | 12 October 2009 - 3:26am

"All Right Now" by Free..

..repeats the Honky Tonk" trick, but I love the way the bass just falls out of the sky in this.

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shane pacey | 12 October 2009 - 5:51am

Great Version

Never heard this version before - think I like it more than Kim Weston's attempt

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the mvps | 12 October 2009 - 6:52am
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