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"I'm Good" and other annoying contemporary phrases.

Richard Raftery's picture

Suddenly 'I'm Good' seems to be the automatic response when someone is asked how they are doing. I am always tempted to respond by saying that I wasn't really interested in where they placed themselves on some personal moral spectrum but instead I just wince. Am I alone? What else is similarly annoying?

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Oh dear

you can't say you're good now?

What are you supposed to say? Every other nationality when asked how they are says they're good. It's short, to-the-point and positive so it doesn't bother me at all. If you don't want people to say they're good, then don't ask them how they are.

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Simon Ford | 21 August 2009 - 11:45am

I'm fine

how about I am fine, spiffing or on top form ?

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andrewdavidlong | 21 August 2009 - 11:56am

"Very well thank you. How are you?"

Or the acceptable short version: "Fine thanks, you?"

Even "Not too bad"....even, even... "Not three bad"

"I'm good" gets my goat.

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kb | 21 August 2009 - 12:14pm

Not Spanish

Saying "estoy bueno" means "I'm eminently shaggable."

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Archie Valparaiso | 21 August 2009 - 1:04pm

and I'm sure you are...

; )

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Gauntlet | 21 August 2009 - 1:14pm

Can I get...

As in "can I get a coffee?". Yes, you can. Wouldn't you rather the person behind the counter got it for you though?

I blame Friends.

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Mark Bell | 21 August 2009 - 11:46am

Are you psychic?

I was thinking the very same thing yesterday in connection with another "annoying phrases" thread - the journalist cliche one, I think. Yes, it's another bloody Americanism adopted by the metropolitan media glitterati which has been foisted on the rest of us as the accepted lingua franca. Makes me seethe...

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Black Type | 21 August 2009 - 11:52am

Innit?


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Sheev | 21 August 2009 - 11:58am

I am liking this

I hate the use of 'I am liking......' Grrrrh. What's wrong with 'I like' ? And I equally detest adding not on the end of a sentence such as 'I like doing this not' whereas you should say 'I dont like this'.

Worst of all worlds is 'I am liking this not'.....

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andrewdavidlong | 21 August 2009 - 11:59am

Even worse...

"I am so loving Xxxxxxx right now"

Hanging's too good, rassun fassun...

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Jon | 21 August 2009 - 12:34pm

And in a similar vein...

"I was like"

What's wrong with "I said"?

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Paul Waring | 21 August 2009 - 12:07pm

Being called 'mate'

by people I've just met.

It's happened to me just now. A guy has come into my office and introduced himself. All well and good. A few pleasantries were exchanged and then he signs off with "See you around mate".

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Ahh_Bisto | 21 August 2009 - 12:08pm

Don't go to Australia, then

You're an instant "mate" over there.

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Austin | 22 August 2009 - 6:59pm

Or Essex

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Gatz | 22 August 2009 - 8:22pm

what's annoying?

The recent upsurge in linguistic pedantry and general verbal intolerance. Why does everyone always go on about the way other people talk and spell all the time?

So what's annoying? People constantly banging on about the fact the "indifferent" had gradually changed its meaning or complaining about other people saying "can I get"(funny how thousands of cups of coffee are ordered with no problem every day this way) that’s what's annoying.

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Chris G | 21 August 2009 - 12:15pm

It's *Change*

Chris.
They don't like change.

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ChaosandMorphine | 21 August 2009 - 2:42pm

R.e 'Can I Get' - I think you missed the point.

It's not that the phrase is hard to understand, I'm sure it works perfectly; it's just the fact that British people are gradually beginning to sound more and more like they are appearing in a U.S. sitcom.

This annoys me for some reason—I think it's because I consider our language and dialects to be a big part of our nation's identity, and I'm proud of that. So when I hear someone with an otherwise distinctively English speaking voice using phrases that they picked up from an American television programme, it grates.

It's probably totally irrational, but that was the subject of the discussion, so I posted it; I think you're probably reading the wrong topic if linguistic pedantry annoys you...

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Mark Bell | 21 August 2009 - 4:06pm

what I'm really saying

is language changes (especially english) all the time getting angry about it is self defeating. Which era of english would you like to preserve?
I personally think alot of this "faux rage" about language is just a form of social acceptable snobbery.

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Chris G | 21 August 2009 - 4:38pm

I think what might stick in Marks craw...

although I can't speak for him, is that heretofore, when the English language is exported, it takes on nuances of the local turn of phrase and so on and evolves. Sometimes it's horrenduous, c.f. US HighSchool Valley Talk (with the exception of Buffy etc). I think the English language took a turn for the better (but I would say this) when it landed here in Ireland. Our turn of phrase in certain things is based upon the Irish language and whilst it jars to an English ear, I don't think it's offensive.

the REAL problem i suspect is that now, the English langage is now being transformed, but in its own 'manor'; in other words, where it was understandable, if not expected, that it'd get mangled out in the colonies(!) or wherever, it's a bit more frightening to hear it murdered in the Putney branch of Costa Coffee.

It is a shame. The changes used to be a lot slower to take effect; now all you need is one shite advert distributed over youtube and you've got a generation repeating it ad nauseum

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ivan | 21 August 2009 - 5:01pm

Oh, it is snobbery...

...you're totally right on that one Chris, I don't deny it :)

You're also right about the language changing, and I'm all for that; for instance when new words are invented to describe new things, or replace long winded phrases. Slang is fine, too, I have no problem with that. Incorporating words from foreign languages: also ok with me.

I think Ivan's right: it's the mindless, rapid adoption of catchphrases and mannerisms from telly programmes that irks me. It's when we replace a phrase like 'can I have' (which already works, and was arrived at through centuries of the evolution of the language), with 'can I get', something that means exactly the same thing, but isn't actually correct. In my opinion, that's going backwards.

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Mark Bell | 21 August 2009 - 6:10pm

I agree

and I blame youngsters. Interestingly, it is currently fashionable for teenagers in Harlem,Compton etc. to adopt white middle class Edwardian home counties accents and greet each other thus: ' What ho,homey. I say, that was a jooly spiffing cap you popped in that blighter's ass. What time can I expect you and your dear hoe round for crumpets ?'.

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RobertC | 22 August 2009 - 7:27am

O.M.G.

Everyone, but everyone, seems to use this phrase with Pavlovian predictability, no matter what the cause. (I'm saying 'everyone' but it might be just women, as I spend most of my time around them, in a professional capacity of course).

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Black Type | 21 August 2009 - 12:17pm

There are days when

I find everything that everyone says profoundly annoying.

Tuesdays usually.

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eddie g | 21 August 2009 - 12:24pm

Party as a verb

my god but that makes me mad

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Pat Carty | 21 August 2009 - 12:25pm

we've always turned nouns into verbs

"hoover" changing "to hoover". Also sometimes these things turn out to older than we think.

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Chris G | 21 August 2009 - 12:34pm

But I've fought

for my rights to do this!

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Ahh_Bisto | 21 August 2009 - 12:43pm

to hoover?

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Glenbervie | 25 August 2009 - 6:30pm

In answer to Pat

But I've fought for my rights to do this!

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Ahh_Bisto | 21 August 2009 - 12:44pm

did you

fight for your right to party?

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James Blast | 22 August 2009 - 3:43pm

Whoosh!

.........

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Black Type | 22 August 2009 - 4:20pm

Disinterested...

...does not mean the same as Uninterested. Grrrrrr....

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Richie B | 21 August 2009 - 12:34pm

"Take care"

Why on earth would a complete stranger, touching though it is, express a concern for my continuing wellbeing, whilst advising, it would appear, an element of caution.

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Sheev | 21 August 2009 - 12:35pm

so how would you like them to

respond anger, hostility, violence? One minute people are yanging on about the lack of manners nowdays and the next complaining when people are courteous WTF?

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Chris G | 21 August 2009 - 12:43pm

Like chillax?

Did it for the lulz? Feel me? Am I bothered though? Like so not?

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Sheev | 21 August 2009 - 12:53pm

I like "chillax"

particularly as it winds up so many people, I'm fairly sure nobody's ever said it wiht serious intent

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Chris G | 21 August 2009 - 12:58pm

I think people should just chillax

I quite like it as a word. If we just treat it as a new word and not see it as a concatenation of two other words then it's fine. New words are being invented all the time what's wrong with this one?

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JohnW | 21 August 2009 - 1:19pm

the first time

I was told to chillax was by my daughter - who was 6 at the time.

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Sheev | 21 August 2009 - 1:34pm

children can some times cut through adult

nonsense.
My niece didn't really understand the phrase "staycation" and has been telling people that they "staying vacate" this year genius!

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Chris G | 21 August 2009 - 1:46pm

Good

That emphasises my point. She thought it was a normal word and used it. That's surely largely how the language grows.

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JohnW | 21 August 2009 - 2:03pm

All your language are...

... belong to us

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Glenbervie | 25 August 2009 - 6:32pm

Back in the day

Everyone uses this all of a sudden. Not so much annoying, as newly prevalent.

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Andrew Bradley | 21 August 2009 - 12:42pm

and perhaps

used with implied quotation marks?

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Glenbervie | 25 August 2009 - 6:32pm

Correct

Well said Andrew,really annoying especially on that Radio London advert with Gary Crowley.

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Sour Crout | 26 August 2009 - 4:29pm

Back in WHAT bloody day?

It's so imprecise. I'm not liking it - it bums me out when I'm good and trying to chillax.

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jonjump | 29 August 2009 - 1:04pm

Y'know....

THAT day. Tsk!

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Black Type | 29 August 2009 - 3:10pm

No

it was the one before that

Remember?

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Sheev | 29 August 2009 - 5:54pm

What's not to like?

I find this annoying because of the way you are simultaneously being challenged, but not really expected to answer. It's found in a lot of reviews.

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Melville | 21 August 2009 - 12:42pm

Yes,

but it's all good, no?

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Black Type | 21 August 2009 - 1:01pm

Much as I've contributed

to this thread, it's a bit Groundhog Day, isn't it? We seem to have these 'phraseology' rants every two weeks or so at present.

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Black Type | 21 August 2009 - 1:04pm

Hmm

So I went out for a drink and she became so rude and I was like so not happy with her. So I said to her to chill out and that I wasn't interested in her being so nasty to me. And so she said that she was good to go and that if I was so uninterested in how she felt that I should so not go with her. So I said 'I'm good' with that but that I wasn't uninterested just disinterested as she so knew what I meant. And she was like so "Well that's just so like you innit?' So I'm like 'Oh my god why are you so acting like such a be-atch'? And she so totally ignores me and says she just likes to party and if I don't wanna be with her that I should just like so go away. And I am thinking 'I am so not liking her right now' and that if she wants me to be her friend she should so not act this way. So then this guy comes up to me and says 'Can I buy you and your mate a drink, mate'? And I'm like so whatever about him so he goes over to the bar anyway and says to the barman 'Can I get a Stella and 2 Bacardi and cokes'? and I'm like so trying not to think about him. And then Stacy walks in she's like 'Hi how are you?' and I'm like 'I'm good' and then I look down and see my button's fallen off my blouse and I'm so no good when I sew.

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Ahh_Bisto | 21 August 2009 - 1:09pm

You'll appreciate this then.


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Gauntlet | 21 August 2009 - 1:16pm

Very True

Was in an internet Cafe once and some American girl bellowed out "That so did not not happen"
two questions
1) Did it Happen ?
2)Why do American tourist set their voice level to a Spinal Tap style 11. ?

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Sour Crout | 26 August 2009 - 4:32pm

alright mate?

unless your an australian i'll let you go

but i do tend to call women love, is this ok?

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junkiecosmonaut | 21 August 2009 - 1:14pm

"The Massive"

Sorry, but I find this cringeworthy and it seems to be used all the time on here. I don't care if it's supposed to be ironic either.

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Danny | 21 August 2009 - 1:14pm

Yes!

Thanks for that mate [I'm off to chillax - I'm good now]

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ChaosandMorphine | 21 August 2009 - 2:41pm

I've been calling for a change of name to 'The Word brethren'...

for a while now, but it doesn't seem to want to stick.

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Patrick Crowther | 21 August 2009 - 5:47pm

The Insightfull Collective - surely better?

Because collectivism will always be the way forward.

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Uncle Wheaty | 21 August 2009 - 10:40pm

Not bovvered

Saying "I'm good" is a concept that I'm vaguely aware of, possibly because I've seen or heard people on television saying it but I can't ever recall having heard it used "in real life". It's interesting that someone could hear it enough for it to get annoying because, unless you have a very low tolerance threshold, you would need to hear it an awful lot to get annoyed.

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JohnW | 21 August 2009 - 1:23pm

Hemen ("Duuuuude!")

Fit like? ("Man, how the hell are you?")

Nae bad min. Foo's yersel'? ("I'm good, real good. How are you?")

A'right. ("Excellent!")

Aye. ("Excellent!")

Aye aye 'en. ("Okay dude, gotta split...")

Aye. ("Later!")

[Translation courtesy of Grampian Television Language Tools]

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Glenbervie | 25 August 2009 - 6:40pm

Is that a typical

conversation in the chipper while waiting for the deep fried mars bar? Dialect is much better than these horrible trans-atlanticisms!

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Fiction Romantic | 27 August 2009 - 9:10pm

Guys, guys...

I hate this when applied to men and women simultaneously, mostly in a workplace scenario. Blokes are guys surely? Women are chicks. Bite on that one.

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chabsy | 21 August 2009 - 1:43pm

If blokes are guys...

women must be dolls?!

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Black Type | 21 August 2009 - 1:50pm

I went to college in Limerick and was amazed

to hear girls from the area say 'I was out on the piss with the lads over the weekend' and this meant 'out with the girls'. The word lads was *completely* non gender specific.

I think the language could do with a one word less-formal-than-ladies-and-gentlemen term. "Folks" doesn't do it for me, but if there's a good 'un out there, do let me hear!

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ivan | 21 August 2009 - 3:56pm

back in Chaucerian England

'girl' was apparently gender non-specific and was used for young people of both sexes.

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illuminatus | 21 August 2009 - 4:15pm

And 800metre runners

I apologise. But it was there, and I couldnt resist.

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Molesworth | 21 August 2009 - 4:37pm

Feel free

knock yourself out :)

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illuminatus | 22 August 2009 - 10:30pm

"Give it up for..."

aka "a round of applause", and " Big up" - no idea what this means.

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billyous | 21 August 2009 - 1:54pm

you need to get a little

westwood in your life!

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Chris G | 21 August 2009 - 2:03pm

Americanisms.

Period. Also, Bless ( simpering,horrible,lazy). The Australian inflection rise at the end of sentence. Down time. R n R. Me time. ( what the fuck do you call your life then ! ).

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RobertC | 21 August 2009 - 2:23pm

what even

rock and roll, jazz, soul, blues, gospel, country & western....

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Chris G | 21 August 2009 - 2:27pm

Apart

from those.

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RobertC | 21 August 2009 - 2:42pm

Bragging rights

'Bragging rights'.
Normally a radio and TV, rather than printed media, phrase.
Never used before 2007, used about 35,000 times since.
Look for a local derby this weekend.
West Ham v. Tottenham or Fulham v. Chelsea seem to fit the bill.
Whoever wins will definitely, 100% certain, be described as having won the 'local bragging rights'.
If it's a draw, the 'bragging rights have been shared'!
Even more ridiculous because local derbies in the Sky age have lost much of their previous importance anyway.
Frankly, who would Chelsea fans prefer to beat this season.......Fulham or Barcelona?

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ranger | 21 August 2009 - 2:25pm

'A watching brief'...

...I've been having some pretty cathartic spleen-venting with my employers' HR people recently and part of the catharthis is realising that you're actually dealing with people who seem, incredibly, to have come straight out of some kind of management-speak crap-talking comedy show.

My employers' Training Officer resigned her post a few years back because there was literally nothing for her to do - they'd lost a few million down an accounting black hole (which was only increasing in magnitude with the accumulating bills of each new firm of auditors brought in to 'look into it') and put a moritorium on any more training. In fact, a moritorium on hope all round.

Lambasting the HR supremo on this (among other things) I was amazed, staggered and exasperated in equal measure when he said that although there was no training whatsoever, he was 'keeping a watching brief on it'.

Which I assume means that those of us whose careers are being institutionally crippled by the thing can now rest easy because a benign eye is 'keeping a watching brief' on the utter inertia. Is there any other way to interpret this insult to plain-English than as a phrase monumentally bereft of meaning?

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Colin H | 21 August 2009 - 3:26pm

Sounds familiar...

You don't work in Local Government or the Civil Service do you?

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man.of.soup | 21 August 2009 - 9:22pm

Very close, Soupmeister...

...regional Education Board... I kid you not: having exhausted any possibility of the hulking great machine having the capacity to make a sensible incentivising individual decision involving job evaluation, modest honorarium or extra time off I was told, really, 'but Colin - there's a lot of kudos in [continuing doing all this extra work you've been doing for free this past three years, which is clearly making you unhappy and unwell, but hey...]'

I explained concisely that I couldn't eat kudos and left them looking for some other mug. Which they'll not find. Wonder what they'll do then?

If there's an overwhelming argument for never having offspring, certainly if you live in the UK, it's this: they will inevitably end up in our education system. Would you wish it on them? Really...? It's not getting any better, and it looks to me like it's getting a lot worse.

There's probably a whole other thread in this if anyone fancies starting it... but it might be too depresing.

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Colin H | 21 August 2009 - 11:42pm

"Good luck with that"

...said ironically. I'm guilty of it myself, but it's now annoying me.

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Five-Centres | 21 August 2009 - 3:40pm

Speak to the Face

'cos the Hand Ain't Listening!

(think that's correct?)

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Stuart Graham | 21 August 2009 - 3:42pm

That can't be right -

The Face went out of business aaaaages ago

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Glenbervie | 25 August 2009 - 6:44pm

so nobody round here

is going to post any sentence that contains: acronyms, cliches, "americanisms", jargon, por spelling, less than perfect grammar and no word or phrase not present in the Coronation special edition of the Radio Times?

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Chris G | 21 August 2009 - 3:53pm

"Moving forward"

Your face will be moving forward to my fist if I hear that one more time.

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bricameron | 21 August 2009 - 4:31pm

This is just getting silly

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Chris G | 21 August 2009 - 4:40pm

" I don't do ... mornings/failure/football etc etc."

They're not for 'doing' in the first place. This kind of thing has got to be stopped.

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Richard Raftery | 21 August 2009 - 4:46pm

I don't do "don't doings"

...

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Glenbervie | 25 August 2009 - 6:45pm

Grumpy Old Men

I happened to be watching GOM least night on some dodgy satellite channel and one of them was ranting about the Australian interrogative inflection that the young seem to intone at the end of each sentence. I don't like it either. Actually this thread is a bit Grumpy Old Men isn't it?

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Bruised Mike | 21 August 2009 - 5:11pm

Stephen Fry

Stephen Fry's relatively recent podcast on (the English ) language says everything I'd like to say on this topic far more eloquently than I could, of course. His views may surprise you...

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Red Umpire | 21 August 2009 - 6:31pm

is this a podcast or his Fry's English delight

series which i think is only on I player?

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Chris G | 21 August 2009 - 6:38pm

It's a podcast

and so can still be downloaded, Chris.

The Fry's English Delight is only available on iPlayer. Episode 1 has already been taken down, but Episode 2 is available here until next Tue, 25 Aug. Epsiode 3 is broadcast that day at 0900 (BST).

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Red Umpire | 21 August 2009 - 6:45pm

cool

I heard this week's FED and it was on this exact subject "speaking Proper", will now track down his latest erratic podcast.

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Chris G | 21 August 2009 - 6:51pm

No need to track it down Chris

Just click on the link in my post.

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Red Umpire | 21 August 2009 - 7:12pm

the mysterious disappearing object pronoun

As in,

"Do you want to come with?"

It drives me up the flipping.

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LuxExterior | 21 August 2009 - 6:42pm

I suspect

that phrase shows a hint of German influence on American English - it's a word for word translation of "Willst du mitkommen?"

I'm not saying it's right, but tout comprendre, c'est tout pardonner...

NB Damn fine user name, Lux.

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nigelthebald | 21 August 2009 - 9:16pm

"the go to person.."

should be gone

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markunderwood | 21 August 2009 - 8:49pm

In a sad computer geekery turn

I would go with the estimable, late Edsger Djikstra who, in 1968, opined that the use of 'go to' was to be considered harmful.

Computer scientists amongst you may find that faintly amusing. For others, move along; nothing to see here...

Sorry

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illuminatus | 22 August 2009 - 10:38pm

Did that make him

the "Go sub" person?

Apologies if that joke is a bit basic.

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milkybarnick | 24 August 2009 - 12:24pm

the person to whom we go?

...

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Glenbervie | 25 August 2009 - 6:46pm

Yeah...

...tends to be enough for me.

Not yeah-yeah-yeah, said very quickly.

Can seemingly increase to yeah x 4 or even yeah x 5 if extremely keen to concur.

A lot of "big asks" around these days too. Said by big arses.

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Resting Place | 21 August 2009 - 9:30pm

How annoying

is that?

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Stan Halen | 21 August 2009 - 10:51pm

Wordsworths

Amazing, brilliant, ace, cool, peachy,awesome - all overused.

Bandersnatch, capercaillie, skua, auk - birds that rarely get dropped into conversation.

Linguistic hates: Going forward, target-setting, politically correct, nanny state, the public has a right to know, clamping, freedom of information, data protection, no walking, no smoking, no spitting, no parking, no skateboarding, no cycling, no tipping, no fishing, no loitering, administration fee, handling charge, postage and packing, all our lines are busy, downsizing, quantatitive easing, credit crunch, and the 35 year old sale at Allied Carpets!

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Baskerville Old Face | 22 August 2009 - 12:15am

Must End Soon!

I can't help with most of those things but it's looking likely that the Allied Carpets sale is due to end soon!

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JohnW | 22 August 2009 - 6:18am

Scrimshaw

... which would have made that movie a lot better (The Scrimshaw Redemption: The whales are back, they're armed and they're *angry*)

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Glenbervie | 25 August 2009 - 6:48pm

"She's in a bad place right now."

And where might that be, precisely?

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Richard Raftery | 22 August 2009 - 1:57pm

Wolverhampton.

Wolverhampton.

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RobertC | 22 August 2009 - 4:08pm

Fantastic

Walsall is even worse.

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Andrew Bradley | 22 August 2009 - 4:39pm

Nowhere in peace time

is worse than Wolverhampton

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Molesworth | 23 August 2009 - 7:10am

Helmand

Province?

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Black Type | 22 August 2009 - 2:46pm

is this an anti war thing

I'm confused?

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Chris G | 22 August 2009 - 4:06pm

In answer to

Mr Raftery's comment two places above.

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Black Type | 22 August 2009 - 4:24pm

yes in deed

probably even worse than the worst excesses of the West midlands

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Chris G | 22 August 2009 - 5:22pm

'Syoo'

Said very quickly by teenage shop assistant. Sometimes I ask them to repeat what they just said. They then say "Oh, er, I was just saying see you later...".

Then after a reciprocal pleasantry I pop my monocle back in and stride decisively out of the shop. Teenage shop assistant no doubt shares a discreet "wanker" gesture with colleague, quite rightly.

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Austin | 22 August 2009 - 7:18pm

My bad

is very bad. It is intensely annoying and becoming more and more commonplace.
I think soon I shall be replying "Your bad what, exactly?"

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Carl Parker | 22 August 2009 - 8:15pm

I disagree

We need more Buffyisms to become common parlance. It's no big.

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Black Type | 23 August 2009 - 12:09am

Buffy

Is that where it came from? I've never watched it. If that's the way they speak I'm glad that I never bothered.

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Carl Parker | 23 August 2009 - 6:50am

You're glad?

You never bothered? I mean, rilly? You can mean that?

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Glenbervie | 25 August 2009 - 6:49pm

Perhaps we need to substitute

new phrases like "Have a nice day" with old/ancient ones like "You're in the groove Jackson." Perhaps even "Dullsville daddyo" could be revived. It could be amusing, although I suspect some would think it a "diabolical liberty".

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Richard Raftery | 22 August 2009 - 11:45pm

Daddy-O

Couldn't agree more.
There has to be a place for 'Daddy-O' in 2009.
Preferably with 'You're the most' and 'Let's rock this joint' surrounding it.

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ranger | 23 August 2009 - 6:57am

so we should all speak

like a cross between Baloo (from the Disney's Jungle Book), cliff richard in Espresso Bongo & the Beatniks in Tony Hanncock's "The rebel" excellent count me in!

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Chris G | 23 August 2009 - 8:10am

Mmmmmmm....

Solid Gone!

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JohnW | 23 August 2009 - 8:25am

Straight out the fridge

Dad!

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James Blast | 23 August 2009 - 3:29pm

Groovy Man ?

That's Far Out...

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Excitable Boy | 27 August 2009 - 4:15pm

Beat me Daddy

eight to the bar!

Tight, tight... just dig it.

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James Blast | 27 August 2009 - 6:52pm

People saying 'no' at the end of sentences

I think they've picked it up from Gordon Ramsey but it is a loathsome affectation, no?

EDIT - see also 'de nos jours'. What's wrong with 'of our time'?

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Chimney Singing... | 24 August 2009 - 1:23pm

Hello?

Spoken in the questioning, sneery tones of one who feels you're not quite with it, or has just said something already obvious to the rest of the room.

'Like, "Hello?" Like we didn't know that?'

Cannot stand it. Always makes me take a deep breath to calm down. Once I've done that I lamp the sarky twat.

Oh, the kids today. I can remember when this was all fields.

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Beezer | 24 August 2009 - 12:42pm

One of my pet hates too

Even more annoying when accompanied by a gesture such as upturned hands or worst of all the mouth agape.

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Carl Parker | 24 August 2009 - 5:16pm

"Hello?"

"Well, duh..." :)

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illuminatus | 25 August 2009 - 8:58pm

" I SOURCED it via the internet"

Pthhhhyukkkk!

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Richard Raftery | 26 August 2009 - 9:11am

Come in for your free eye exam...

Why? Am I studying to be an ophthalmologist? When did we stop having eye tests at the opticians? More importantly, when did we start using language used by the unfeasibly good looking staff of that ER? I blame George Clooney.

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cathtrish | 26 August 2009 - 10:32am

But is is an examination

In the dim distant past an eye test was just that, a series of tasks undertaken by the patient to determine whether or not they needed their vision corrected. These days it involves the same tests (albeit a bit higher tech) followed what seems like a quite detailed physical examination of the eyes by the optician. This makes the phrase "eye examination" far more sensible than "eye test".

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JohnW | 26 August 2009 - 11:26am

I agree

that 'examination' is the more accurate description of the modern procedure. I'm taking umbrage with shortening it to 'exam' (in this very specific context) a la American hospital dramas. It seems to me that we are using the term with reference to American English over British English. Bloody yanks etc...

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cathtrish | 27 August 2009 - 8:26am

Know the roots

That's probably a fairer rant but as I don't watch any American hospital/medical dramas, my only exposure to the term is on signs outside shops here so it seems perfectly reasonable to me. It's interesting that sometimes what annoys people is entirely dependent on knowledge of the roots of a phrase or word. This isn't the only case in this thread. I suspect that if we had all studied Latin at school there would be even more complaints about poorly/wrongly derived words.

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JohnW | 27 August 2009 - 12:29pm

At the end of the day..........

Do I not like that!

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ianaces | 26 August 2009 - 10:48am

Cheer Up You Old Fogies!

life's too short to spend it whining to people you don't know.
(but is that what i am doing now? ironic maybe?)

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freddieofarrell | 26 August 2009 - 11:16am

Don't you mean

Chillax guys, it's all good?

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Gatz | 26 August 2009 - 1:00pm

Definitely should have said that.

Take a chill pill why don't you?

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freddieofarrell | 26 August 2009 - 3:28pm

(are) (you) alright there (mate)?

As asked by shop assistants... as if I've escaped from the local mental asylum and need care in the community.

What was so wrong with "Can I help you, Sir?"

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Neil Jung | 26 August 2009 - 4:04pm

Virgin media

Taking a tangent from that, I hate getting e-mails from Virgin Media that start "Hi Carl" and end "Yours Richard".
We have a business relationship. Branson is no friend of mine. I pay him good money for an average service where the customer service staff are graduates of the Norman Wisdom Business School. I think the marketing idiot that thought up this personalised idea should be flogged.
If they want to put things in Branson's name I want it to start "Dear Mr Parker" and end "Yours sincerely, Richard Branson".

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Carl Parker | 26 August 2009 - 8:51pm

And another tangent...

...I recently received a letter from the Virgin Media marketing department, informing me that I had opted not to receive any communications from the Virgin Media marketing department, and therefore they were a bit limited in what they could send me.

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Mark Bell | 27 August 2009 - 4:02pm

Cheeky tykes

'We'd love to tell you about all the crud we want you to buy but you've said we can't. Some of the things we can't tell you about include...'

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Captain Underpants | 27 August 2009 - 4:23pm

It would be worth the stamp

just to write back to them to say:

"Yes, that was the whole point of opting out in the first place, you dweebs. Now, go away."

I might choose to word it slightly more forcefully.

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illuminatus | 28 August 2009 - 10:48am

End of

.

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Retro Man | 28 August 2009 - 9:31am

Ah....Bless! ( again )

I keep on hearing it. God's teeth, it's like being surrounded by scholl wearing hairy legged lank haired chamomile engorged christ harpies. And the picures of their bloody offspring on mobiles. So you can pro-create.So what.
Bugger off.

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RobertC | 28 August 2009 - 9:48am

are you sure

you're not just Charlie Brooker in a fake beard and sunglasses? :)

True, though.

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illuminatus | 28 August 2009 - 10:45am

Surely you mean

True, dat.

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Red Umpire | 1 September 2009 - 2:07pm

Good God!

A striking vision indeed!

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Baskerville Old Face | 4 September 2009 - 3:00pm

Americans speak loud...

because they think they're at the center of the universe and the star of their own little insipid dramedy where EVERYONE is watching their zany misadventures. United States of Narcissism, you know..and I AM American so I know of which I speak...

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ferris09bueller | 28 August 2009 - 11:24am

AAARGH !!!

"What's your take" instead of "What's your opnion".
Bloody nonsense !

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johnfred | 28 August 2009 - 5:55pm

Laters...

...is quite annoying

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tkdmart | 28 August 2009 - 8:23pm

" One million percent yes"

Will someone send Louis Walsh and those other X Factor judges on an elementary maths course.

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Richard Raftery | 29 August 2009 - 7:21pm

'X should be a good role model to the children'...

No he bloody shouldn't. He's a f**king rock star. His job is to take drugs, drink vats of booze and act like an immature, spoilt twat.

No he bloody shouldn't. He's a footballer. His job is to kick a spherical object around on grass and cultivate relationships with surgically-enhanced glamour girls.

I think one will find that that particular social responsibility falls to parents.

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Patrick Crowther | 29 August 2009 - 7:38pm

But the parents

are all smoking crack.

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Black Type | 29 August 2009 - 7:45pm

Simples

bloody meercat

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Ghom | 30 August 2009 - 7:54pm

Just to be contrary...

I find people objecting to cliched phrases in a literal fashion quite tiresome. A classic example is the time-honoured football phrase 'it was a game of two halves'. This usually prompts outraged responses along the lines of 'Duh! All football games have two halves, you idiot!'

For the hard of understanding, what is meant by this phrase is "in the first half we played like Brazil, while in the second we were more like the Blue Brazil (Cowdenbeath, trivia fans!)"

See also 'at the end of the day, it's goals that count'. Translation: "while the world may admire our free-flowing total football (Cowdenbeath again?), we're not going to achieve anything unless we score a goal or two".

These innocuous and perfectly understandable (if hackneyed) phrases seem to send people into Clarkson-style fits of apoplexy for some reason. Maybe a chill-pill is required m8 ;-)

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DougieJ | 30 August 2009 - 8:36pm

Simples

innit?

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ChaosandMorphine | 31 August 2009 - 11:02am

Mos' def'

;-)

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DougieJ | 31 August 2009 - 1:12pm

They don't bother me

because they've actually transcended cliché and become a slightly knowing parody of their original meaning. Pretty much eveyone who uses them now knows the baggage they carry; even footballers, not normally noted for their lingustic flourish and prolixity, manage to suffuse the phrases with a knowing archness when they use them (if only because they've watched some Ron Manager sketches on the Fast Show).

I've just read this back. Pseuds Corner is calling me. I don't care :)

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illuminatus | 1 September 2009 - 9:45am

"Don't go there!"

Where? Is it Wolverhampton again?

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Richard Raftery | 31 August 2009 - 6:47pm

...plus

Gutted......as in 'I am gutted' which really should be translated to 'I am disappointed with the outcome' Gutted is an extreme word whereas as those who use it are often a little disappointed.

Plus 'going on a journey'........

I won't describe my annoyance about this expression.

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andrewdavidlong | 31 August 2009 - 7:14pm

"Pushing out the envelope"

Apparently the Beatles did it in the sixties. Hmmmmm. Indeed.

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Richard Raftery | 1 September 2009 - 11:33am

Tow Wolfe

I first came across pushed envelopes when reading Mr Wolfe's book The Right Stuff.

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Carl Parker | 6 September 2009 - 2:59pm

The Beautiful Game.

Lepidoptera are beautiful. Football isn't.

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RobertC | 1 September 2009 - 3:49pm

Not an Ipswich fan, then?

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Austin | 1 September 2009 - 6:40pm

Clearly...

...he hasn't seen this:


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DougieJ | 1 September 2009 - 7:09pm

Zidane The Scientist !

Gimme Swan Lake anyday.

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RobertC | 1 September 2009 - 7:25pm

Each to their own

In all seriousness though, I genuinely believe that football can most certainly be described as beautiful, when played by the likes of a Cruyff, Maradona or the aforementioned Zizou.

You have a problem with that?

;-)

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DougieJ | 1 September 2009 - 7:32pm

Of course not !

Just dislike football. My late Grandfather was goalie for Aston Villa in the 30's ( William Carey ). Also for Manchester, I believe.

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RobertC | 1 September 2009 - 7:45pm

No axe to grind either way

but coverage and analysis is disproportionate in comparison to other sports and activities

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Richard Raftery | 2 September 2009 - 8:15am

"put ME in the fridge" etc.

Have we had this one already? If so, soz.

I'm quite comfortable with the ongoing perversion/enrichment of the Queen's English, as spoken by youths, hipsters and media-types. Few of the examples above get my goat - rather, I tend to be amused by the inventiveness of it all.

No, what rattles my cage is not a million miles away from Carl Parker's point about Virgin Media and their informal chumminess. It's when food and drink manufacturers try too hard to be all, like, cool and laid-back with the text that appears on the packaging of their products. Innocent - the fruit smoothies - are the worst in this regard. Their carton seems to think it's achieved some kind of emergent sentience! It's all in the first person. "Please put me in the fridge", "shake me before opening" etc. No! You're an inanimate, transient consumer item! 'You' are not even a 'you' in any case, merely a quotidian example of disposable consumer flotsam. How dare 'you' think it's OK to be so intimate with me, Mister Tetra-pak? But it's not just them - dozens of ordinary grocery items are trying to make friends with you by using the first person. Dispose of me carefully. Drink me responsibly. I am made from a sustainable resource. Enough already!

I know, I know: it's all about developing a relationship with a brand, this product makes me feel good, this product is for people like me, this brand is modern and different, blah blah. Well I'm sorry but all it says to me is "this product is marketed by pricks, and probably purchased by pricks, do not buy it again". So there.

Bring back the olden days - it mightn't have been much to look at, but at least you knew where you were with a brown paper bag.

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Oysterfrond | 8 September 2009 - 8:04pm

brands grow accidentally and organically, i think ...

... and as soon as you get self conscious about branding, you've lost it ...

eg when NatWest was run by Captain Mainwaring and they gave away wee piggy banks to kids, it had an identity ... now they're owned by major institutional shareholders (and latterly, the government) with highly specialised departments looking at brand, marketing, advertising etc, their slogan is "Helpful Banking" which is utter bullshit if you fall outside the tightly defined parameters for a mortgage or business loan ... rendering the carefully constructed branding no more than a bare-faced lie (unless they can make a profit out of you)...

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Glenbervie | 21 September 2009 - 12:12pm

Personality Plus

Cashpoints/ATMs often have personality here in NZ. If they are out of order, a face appears with a thermometer sticking out its mouth, saying "I'm crook".

Or if you get your PIN wrong, it'll say "Oops! Wooah there! Try again and this time try to take it a little more slowly"

Or if you're overdrawn "You are out of moolah"

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Austin | 8 September 2009 - 8:24pm

New Zealand cashpoints - bah!

I don't think I'll bother visiting New Zealand.

I refuse to holiday in any country which offers "zany" cashpoints.

The withdrawal of one's hard-earned money from an ATM machine is a serious procedure, oftentimes fraught with danger (will it chew my card up this time? Is that curiously hairy man standing behind me clocking my PIN number?), and not one to be trivialised by an over-familiar cashpoint.

I like my cashpoints strict and humourless - the standard British "PLEASE TAKE YOUR MONEY" or "YOU HAVE NO AVAILABLE FUNDS, PISS OFF" are quite adequate and permit no possible risk of developing some sort of relationship with your ATM.

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Melmoth | 9 September 2009 - 8:53pm

I had the misfortune to overhear

3 lads on the train this morning seemingly heading off to gamble with more of our money in the city and amongst the inevitable "wells" and "likes" etc - "this week is like, well long", wafted an "arsted". I'm sorry did I hear that right? Arsted! As in "I arsted her what she wanted". Ahh all is becoming clear, he meant "asked".

Even "arst" would have bordered acceptability, but "arsted", give me strength. What's more the other two didn't even pause to ridicule it.

I work with builders who use expletives as a form punctuation, and for whom volume is preferable to content, so I'm used to a certain amount of bastardisation, but at least the general gist of what's being said is identifiable. These "suits" were just making a mockery of our language.

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Phil Pirrip | 10 September 2009 - 9:57am

Why didn't you

ax them what they meant. innit?

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Black Type | 10 September 2009 - 3:18pm

Theyz bigga than I'm

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Phil Pirrip | 10 September 2009 - 3:51pm

Arks instead of ask

is a really weird one. It seems to be used by a lot of people as the norm but seems really hard to pronounce or is that just me. Try saying "I arksed him"

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Big Guxy | 10 September 2009 - 3:30pm

This year we DID Majorca! (or any other holiday destination)

No you didn't you went there on bloody holiday! Drives me insane.

Also people who order sandwiches "on brown", "on white" etc. I'm not sure why this method of ordering sandwiches annoys me but it does.

I also have an irrational dislike of window cleaners - no idea why.

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Pinmonkey | 11 September 2009 - 6:59pm

Which bread

How do you let the sandwich maker know what type of bread to use or is it simply the missing noun that causes you a problem?

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JohnW | 12 September 2009 - 2:36am

Quite irrational!

I've no idea why it annoys me, I think it's the word "on" more than anything. Did people always order sandwiches in this way? If anything shouldn't it be "in" white bread or "in" ciabatta?
Don't ask me why I don't like window cleaners either because I'm unable to explain that too.

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Pinmonkey | 12 September 2009 - 6:47pm

Sandwich fillings 'on'

Just a guess, but could this possibly have come from New York, where 'pastrami on rye' might have been one of the first opportunities for you to choose your bread? And it was 'on' because it was an open sandwich.

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PeteWingrave | 13 September 2009 - 9:26pm

Unfortunately, I can't stop saying...

" Aye, not so bad." when asked how I am.

The worst thing is, it's become involuntary, and I know exactly where it came from - Robert Carlyle says it in 'The Full Monty', when quizzed by a passing dog-walker. Whilst stuck on a sinking wreck of a car in the middle of a Sheffield canal.

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Andrew F | 11 September 2009 - 8:17pm

womany stuff

I suspect most of these posters are men- because there's a whole world of annoying phrases that ony women know about. Most of my female friends say "hun" in texts, when obviously, they are shortening "Honey" so it should be "hon" (even though it's a bit Nancy Mitford) - but god, it's annoying.
Also, fashion... we don't say "she modelled for" , eg, Prada, anymore- we have to say "she walked for". And To Die For and Lust Have (I blame Grazia for that one.) And the one that makes me want to curl up in a ball of raging hate because it's such pathetically lazy journalism- "xxx, anyone?" (as in "George Clooney, anyone?" I have never seen a male jourmalist do this, but female ones do it all the time.. and I am one. I'm not proud. Oh and one more- "result!" in the lads-mag, "nice one, mate" context. It's unbearable...

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FlicE | 14 September 2009 - 4:07pm

Doable!

or do-able, I was tortured by a bitch boss for years who used that constantly, "ownership" was her other catch all - to this day I still have no idea what it refers to or how we're meant to do-abley action it

I hope you can see my aversion and I've been "thinking outside the box" for decades

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James Blast | 14 September 2009 - 4:59pm

Nothing wrong

with 'hun'. If hunny's good enough for Pooh, it's good enough for me.

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Black Type | 14 September 2009 - 11:22pm
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