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I like U2
Yes, you heard me, sunshine!
It seems that the default position of slaggery on the blog when reaching for a band that is naff, past it, sell outs, awful, dull, annoying or just plain SHITE! is ver U2.
Cards on the table I haven't bothered with their last couple of releases and don't think they have produced much of worth in a decade. But as a live band they have always been trying to shake up the onstage performance with technology and ways of reaching the bloke in row Z. And people arfe forever ripping off their tour presentations
The Zoo TV tour still stands out as one of the most exciting and inventive live shows that I have ever seen. It was bonkers, overblown and had a sense of humour about itself. That's something people often miss. And sometimes I think its their whole success and all conquering hugeness that sticks in the craw of the "serious" music fan.
I believe this resentment is only partly to do with the music (we can't all like the same things) but a lot to do with the people making it. In the same way that Coldplay get a real kicking started around the time Chris Martin shacked up with a Hollywood actress, started having an opinion on something that wasn't about music and hitting it big in the States. We hate it when our friends become successful.They themselves don't change but our attitude to them does and they are suddenly 'bland', 'sell outs' 'too big' etc
Yes Bono is an arrogant fucker but he always was even the period when people admit to liking them. Yes he had daft haircuts in the 80's but didn't we all? Yes the tax thing but all your beloved beardy bands from the 70's were just the same in different ways. But when it comes to the MUSIC which is the bit I'm interested in they have produced some of my favourite moments in music.
Stay (Faraway So Close)
Stuck In A Moment
I Will Follow
Angel Of Harlem
Bad
Where The Streets Have No Name
The Wanderer
Exit
Bullet the Blue Sky
Love Is Blindness
The Fly
Walk On
they write anthemic music. They are not about the niche and minority, they are trying to throw their arms around the world
Now some of you will leave this thread thinking DogFacedBoy is crazy, well they've been saying that for years.
Let the hate flow through you, young Ganglesprocket.....
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"Didn't we all?"
I must take issue with one point: "Yes he had daft haircuts in the 80's but didn't we all?"
In the 80's, I had a perm ON TOP (straight and longer at the back), blue hair for a couple of months and a period of shaving one side of my head.
So, I don't think you can tar ALL of us with the 'bad hair' brush.
were you a member
Of Toto Coelo?

I think JoLean was....
...the bass player in The Belle Stars
U2
I enjoyed their Glasto set. Bono is ripe for a ribbing due to his ludicrous cartoonish rock star persona, but other than that they're ok.
Judging by the sales of No Line on the Horizon
It is clear that their appeal is becoming more selective, but their last 3 albums have been among their very best, certainly in the top 5 in their career.
If Bonio could just shut the hell up (from around 1987 onwards), they'd have the same sort of critical acceptance as the infinitely more whiny Radiohead currently have.
I was able...
... to get to see U2 at Scott Stadium, Charlottesville on holiday in the good ol' U.S. Of A. in 2009. I'd lost interest in them after 'Pop'(track 4 to be precise) and was not overly excited about seeing them live - but as it was a past friend's Birthday, I decided I'd go along.
They were fantastic, and as you say, know how to put on a show - and that is what they are all about.
As for my favourite track - I'd go for Ultraviolet (Light My Way).
Scott Stadium Saturday
We'll be at the Scott Stadium this Saturday. Lucky for us its for a football game (not real football!). We would have been nowhere near if U2 had been in town.
Not a bad stadium for a college football team...
Bono's a bit of an eejit
the tax thing annoys me, but if I was in the shoes of any member of the band, I can't honestly say I'd be any different.
They've written some fine songs and entertained millions...no more than Queen (tin hat ahoy!) what's not to, at least, admire? Look up the definition of pop-star and that's more or less what you're meant to do!
I'm not a fan
I do rate Achtung Baby though (the album that even the U2-haters like).
Zooropa?
Surely U2-haters like that one, as a lot of it sounds even less like the '2 than the "Tung" does.
I like Pop.
I think it's a good and interesting record. I can take the rest or leave it, but they're a live spectacle and no mistake. I bear them no ill will.
Like them!
Fantastic at Glastonbury this year, when I finally got to see them live after all these years. Pop is probably my favourite too, particularly Please and Mofo. I don't understand why they get so much stick when the likes of Kasabian and Muse are out there polluting the airways!
I was there too...
... stood in the pouring rain witnessing a fantastic set from a band who weren't taking anything for granted that night. I'd seen the Joshua Tree tour back in '87 which was memorable for it's stripped-down reliance on the songs (plus Bono fannying around with a searchlight.
What struck me about Glasto this year was what a fantastically tight rhythm unit Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen Jr are and how much of the power in the music comes from those two giving Edge the room to indulge his sonic meanderings.
Ian McCulloch
In the latest edition of The Word, Mr Echo of the Bunnymen mentions Bono in connection with the singer of Glasvegas – and as usual he gets a bashing. This has been a constant with McCulloch and – to be fair he hasn’t exactly jumped on the bandwagon (in an 80’s interview he stated :
“Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat. He needs a colostomy bag for his mouth”.)
However, it seems that EVERY time I read an interview with Ian McCulloch he brings up the name of U2’s lead singer. He seems obsessed with him. To his credit Bono never seems to have responded to these playground taunts.
It's like the manager of Marine
trying to get a rise out of Kenny Dalglish.
Not going to happen
Classic Mac...
... has never got over U2 going massive while the Bunnymen haven't - but some funny quotes all the same.
Bunnymen
Were far to cool for school to break mega.
Mac was so lost in his
Mac was so lost in his NME-fantasies and hip sneering he lost out to U2 (who, let us recall, went mega after their gig at Red Rocks in 1983). At the time he must have felt wonderfully superior to a band all those unhip Americans liked. Wonder if he feels so superior now? Personally, i prefer Echo& to U2, but there is nothing like a bit of karmic justice for all Mac's affectations over the years.
I like U2 too
GAH! I just typed out a long spiel about how much I like U2's "middle period" records - Unforgettable Fire to Zooropa), and how mystefying I find the Bono bashing, and lost it when I accidentally went back to previous page. Can't be bothered to do it again, but here's a list of my favourite songs:
One
All I Want Is You
Van Diemen's Land
The Wanderer
One Tree Hill
Pride (his singing on this is IMMENSE!)
New Year's Day
Love Is Blindness (Cassandra Wilson's version shows what a great song it is)
Lemon
The Fly
You people are dead to me
I wouldn't say "I hate them"
But I would be really hard pushed to find something affirmative to say about them either.
Some of the early stuff was enjoyable enough - but they're tunes I just let play when the randomizer produces them, rather than go looking for them.
I own one U2 CD, and I don't think my life is negatively affected one way or another by them.
What I DO dislike about them is the profile, persona, call it what you like. I could start politely with "hypocritical pontificates" and go from there - and then I realized that's Bono that really irks me.
One suspects that the others know that they are on to a good thing, and shut up. But I don't think Bono is a particularly spectacular front man, and I'm not sure what he's actually done to merit being in a position to lecture me, or even world leaders from any kind of a position of moral superiority.
In short - I get nothing from them I can't find anywhere else, and I don't like the frontman. *exhales*
Laugh?
I nearly wet myself ganglesprocket...
I like U2...too
All That You Can't Leave Behind is a great album.
I feel the need to big up ver 2
as they were my special band when I was a young lass. They're understandably derided & mocked for the tax stuff & Bono being, well, Bono but I looooooved their early albums & still love to listen to them when the mood is right.
As I was stood on the train platform yesterday, feeling the autumnal breeze on my face, I looked up to see the first leaves turning golden red & the piano from 'October'tinkled into my mind.
Gorgeous, underrated (& admittedly patchy) album.
I hate U2! Bonobo's a wanker! Music for plumbers! Etc....
But reading this thread led me to Spotify and some selected tracks that I'm enjoying very much indeed.
I'm gonna break my recent vow of silence
but only to say that I'm staying well away from commenting on this in much the same way I stay well away from the U section in all good and indeed crap record emporiums.
No Underworld in your collection then?
;-)
Quite a lot as it happens.
Bought only after I've had plenty of lager,lager,lager,lager.
Just for these teenage kicks, all "U"s are forgiven:
awww
Poor old Ultravox
Ultravox.
Yet another reason for giving the U section a swerve.
Well I put you down
as a Uriah Heap fan so went for someone else.
This getting worse!
I may need a little lie down soon.
Then you'll need to see a Doctor Doctor
I can often be found wading
I can often be found wading in on their behalf on here so i'm not going to add anymore....
My U2 gems for what it's worth are....
Wire
The Ground Beneath Her Feet
Sweetest Thing
The Unforgettable Fire
Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me
Walk To The Water
New Years Day
Bullet The Blue Sky
A Day Without Me
Acrobat
I can often be found wading
I can often be found wading in on their behalf on here so i'm not going to add anymore....
My U2 gems for what it's worth are....
Wire
The Ground Beneath Her Feet
Sweetest Thing
The Unforgettable Fire
Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me
Walk To The Water
New Years Day
Bullet The Blue Sky
A Day Without Me
Acrobat
Me 2.
I think my admiration for the music of Bono and the boys is fairly well documented on this here site. Achtung Baby / Zooropa got me through an otherwise appalling year, and I am forever just a little bit in their debt. Like R.E.M. they will always be 'mine' no matter what or who they do / say / release / re-release / marry / sleep with / meet with.
Am I buggin' you?
U2
They're like The Beatles but without the songs, the wit or a fifth member
A Bit Like Atheism
Using U2 as a convenient shorthand to describe a dreadful band is interesting and I think it owes a lit to the Internet. In the old days, when all we could see was the U2 were getting bigger and bigger and selling more and more records, I thought it was just me that thought they were awful - I even saw then live a couple of times which just confirmed their dreadfulness to me. Jump forward 15-20 years to the huge rise in Internet forum use and I find that I'm not alone and that its OK to dislike them. It's a lot like being an atheist, you think you're on your own because nobody really talks about it (I don't think there's much to say but it has, at times felt like I was swimming against the tide). No such problems with Coldplay though. The Internet was there to keep me company right from the start, I disliked them even before I had the chance to form any prejudices about the people involved (I'm not sure why the fact that the singer has a pretty wife should put me off anyway).
I liked a girl who liked U2
so i bought "Under A Blood Red Sky" and for a while thought yep, these are ok even though I was a bigger E&TB fan. I had no real opinion of them after that although I could always be relied upon to put "The Unforgettable Fire" on the pub jukebox, I still like the song now. But I cannot, will not, ever get past the caricature that Bono has become. It accentuates every bad lyric like "Vertigo", every self serving proclamation, every pompous, gut wrenching, embarrassing dad times a billion action and word of the most ridiculous man I can think of. U2 may well be a great band, I may well be missing out, I may even grow to love The Edge and his perma-hat but as long as Bono is breathing our oxygen I will only ever shudder and reach for the off button when they appear anywhere, except for this song
U2 "The Unforgettable Fire"
Lost interest
after "A Celebration" - yes, I was the kind of irritating teenage snob who "went off" bands the moment they had a sniff of success. But they're ok; not briliant, not terrible. I like the first two albums a lot, and the aforementioned single.
As for Bono, he can sing (unlike yer man from Coldplay). And does, with a lot of power and commitment. Can't fault him for that. And I find that kind of person rather endearing - over-enthusiastic, prone to grand gestures, occasionally falling on their faces, etc.
Better to be a bit puppyish than "too cool for school". At 16 I thought Mac MacCulloch was the coolest guy imaginable. Now, he just seems like an unlikeable, arrogant tosser.
I make no apologies.
Absolutely understand where the dislike comes from, but seriously, how many bands can pull off that sort of Glastonbury performance with that tight, and consistent, a set list? I always admired them for still showing up on BBC Saturday morning kids shows to promote their latest album, even when successful beyond belief. You do the show, you do the business.
And since you asked so nicely, the top ten tunes:
I Will Follow - my favourite debut record, side one, track one ever
Out of Control (ideally from the U2 Go Home Slane show - what a highlight)
Lemon - either the original, or admirably remixed
Spanish Eyes
Stay/Walk On/One - stadium anthem, take your pick
Bad, from Wide Awake in America
11 O'Clock Tick Tock
The Unforgettable Fire
The Wanderer
Beautiful Day - preferably in the rain at Landsdowne Road, just after beating Australia!
Actually, come to think of it
Musically, they're pretty damn good. Boy has to be one of the greatest debut albums ever.
It's Bono and his tax dodging (sorry...avoiding) ways whiilst constantly berating people who are a bloody sight poorer than him about 3rd work debt that I can't stand. Yes, I know he's right but in this case I'd love to shoot the messenger.
Lost their way
I became a huge fan after Pop came out in the late 1990s, and devoured everything I could get my hands on from there. The last two-and-a-half records though have left me a bit cold. (I say 2.5 because No Line On The Horizon, in spite of the critical derision from which it suffers, actually contains some of the best songs they've produced since the 90s - see 'Moment of Surrender' for evidence.) I've also seen them live five or six times, including at Slane in 2001 when they were just incredible. I'll even defend Bono's obvious by arguing that he is at least opening his mouth, something too many in his position don't do.
But I think this is another band at the crossroads. Bono said last week that they were as close to irrelevance as they've ever been (in their own eyes - stop sniggering at the back). And on the last tour they just looked a bit old for all the prancing about. With their good friends REM gone, there must be some conversation about what next? The answer probably is to get back to the risk taking that made eveything up to 1997 so good, and away from the contrived effort to be the biggest band in the world.
Anyway, here's my Top 10, for whatever it's worth:
Until the End of the World
The Unforgettable Fire
Stuck in a Moment that you Can't Get Out Of
Lemon
Bad
With or Without You
New Year's Day
Miss Sarajevo
Please
Moment of Surrender
Please
'Please' is my favourite U2 song. Absolutely brilliant.
Agreed
Please is just a great track. Great rhythm (including some sterling work between Larry Mullen's martial drum sound and producer Howie B's atmospherics), great guitar work from Edge, and great lyrics that brilliantly capture the fragility of the Irish situation in the mid-1990s. Pity it never really got the recognition it deserves.
I hate to say it...
...but I still really like U2. Bono is a prat - but he's at least always interesting.
I think you've hit the nail on the head.
I never really was into U2 in my "youth" but now seem to have a couple of their most recent albums and their original greatest hits (The 1980 - 90 i think is rather excellent) so not a massive fan. I think the problem with the band is that Bono often comes across as a bit of a cock so the fall out starts there. Not my favourite band ever but there are many, many worse.
Damned by Faint Praise
There may be many worse (not many of them sell quite as many records) but there are also hundreds (probably thousands) that are far far better. When I saw them live (quite a few years back now admitedly) they weren't even the best support band!
If
you look at the opening track from each of their 12 studio albums (this includes Rattle & Hum), then you end up with a 12 track compilation that goes something like this.
U2 Openers
Side one 1980-1988
01 I Will Follow
02 Gloria
03 Sunday Bloody Sunday
04 A Sort Of Homecoming
05 Where The Streets Have No Name
06 Helter Skelter
Side two 1991-2009
07 Zoo Station
08 Zooropa
09 Discotheque
10 Beautiful Day
11 Vertigo
12 No Line On The Horizon
my take on U2
Worshipped them in my student days and listened to them a lot up until my late 20s. "Unforgettable Fire" and "Joshua Tree" are two of the best albums to come out of that dead old decade, the 1980s. Liked "Achtung Baby" because it was riskier, heavier than their previous stuff and captured the early 90s zeitgeist. After that they lost me as far as their records were concerned but were still a great live band. Saw them twice, once on the Pop Mart tour and again on the last one. I don't really mind Bono. They're not the only band with a lead vocalist who's a bit up his own arse (the history of rock'n roll is littered with them). The Edge, Adam and Larry Mullen are three of the coolest fuckers in the business and by Christ they can play.
Like many here
I hate and love them at the same time. Bono is undoubtedly a steaming prepuce, and the Edge's moniker and selection of hats is unforgivable. But I find Unforgettable/Josh/'Tung to be genuinely magical records. And Adam & Larry have to go into the pantheon of Long Suffering But Dependable Rhythm Sections along with Charlie and Bill or Suede's Mat and Simon.
Even as I say, "Well stop clicking your fecking fingers!" I'm remembering that fantastic drum sound on Bullet the Blue Sky.
They've made schizophrenics of the best of us.
Well
The video for Sweetest Thing always makes me smile.
also, between autumn 1980 and autumn 1991
they released seven albums in 11 years: Boy, October, War, The Unforgettable Fire, The Joshua Tree, Rattle And Hum, and Achtung Baby
not a bad hit rate really
Everyone I know likes at
Everyone I know likes at least one U2 sing a lot. And yet you'll never meet anyone who says they're their favourite band. Persistently just fine. That's the measure of pop
Uhhhh ...
I think even to say I have no opinion on U2, one way or the other, at all, is to exaggerate their impact on my life.