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I Should Be Deported

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The Guardian have printed some questions from the Citizenship test.

I got 14 out of 25 and the pass rate is 75%.

Take it and let me know if you're joining me on the boat.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/quiz/2011/oct/11/uk-citizenship-test-q...

2

I only got 12

I'd never even heard of half the things they asked.

0
Five-Centres | 11 October 2011 - 4:32pm

15 out of 24 for me

Can I have an outboard cabin? (for the sea view)

1
jackthebiscuit | 11 October 2011 - 4:33pm

12 out of 24

It's certainly not common knowledge.

0
Lunaman | 11 October 2011 - 4:39pm

12 for me too

Where we going? Can you drop me off somewhere warm?

1
Paul Thompson | 11 October 2011 - 4:41pm

17 out of 24

I failed too. I'll settle for a hammock. Are we going somewhere sunny?

0
tonyg | 11 October 2011 - 4:42pm

17

do we get first class travel on our way to the sun!

0
simontyler | 11 October 2011 - 4:45pm

12 out of 24

That's the worst pub quiz ever. Where were the rock and pop questions?

4
Mac45 | 11 October 2011 - 4:45pm

13 correct for me

Your comment reminds me of a brilliant quote I overheard in a primary classroom the other day. The teacher was doing a mental maths test with the class and one poor lad was really struggling. Near the end he turned to the Teaching Assistant helping him and said "How am I supposed to know the answers? I haven't read the play".

0
WholeHogg | 17 October 2011 - 9:27pm

Bye...

12 out of 24

0
Neil Dyson | 11 October 2011 - 4:46pm

15

Wonder how many Cameron would have got - always come across as a bit of a thicko so would be good to see.

0
Steve Turner | 11 October 2011 - 4:46pm

Pass rate is 75%?

Sod that. Why can't it be 40 like at Uni? I thought this country tolerated coasting and mediocrity. I'm off!

1
Moose the Mooche | 11 October 2011 - 4:47pm

18 out of 24

I passed. Now get out of my country.

17
Leedsboy | 11 October 2011 - 4:50pm

13

I was hoping it'd be more along the lines of:

Q1: What food is traditionally served with chips?

2
Spartacus Mills | 11 October 2011 - 4:51pm

Curry?

3
bigsteviecook | 11 October 2011 - 4:54pm

Surely

Cheese and gravy?

0
Runcible | 11 October 2011 - 6:07pm

Gee, isn't it salsa and guacamole?

{covers face}

0
Moose the Mooche | 11 October 2011 - 6:42pm

You are Peter Mandelson

AICM $5

0
sitheref2409 | 12 October 2011 - 1:31pm

Chips, cheese and gravy

You must be from the Isle of Man. Am I right?

0
Spartacus Mills | 11 October 2011 - 8:04pm

Mushy...

peas.

0
Patrick Crowther | 11 October 2011 - 7:42pm

12 out 24

But to be fair, I didn't revise or nuffink

1
Georgedivided | 11 October 2011 - 4:56pm

13 I'm out

Shall I pack my trunks?

0
herringbrother | 11 October 2011 - 4:57pm

13

barely 50%. So feel free to disregard any of my thoughts on the UK.

0
paulwright | 11 October 2011 - 4:59pm

Christ its going to be lonely

1
Leedsboy | 11 October 2011 - 5:00pm

I scored 18 as well

But I've been living in Germany for the last 15 years. I can visit occasionally if you like.

0
engl63 | 13 October 2011 - 4:05pm

17 / 14

17 for me.
14 for Mrs U.

Can we have a twin cabin please?

2
Red Umpire | 11 October 2011 - 5:02pm

Sorry

you'll be on different decks.

17's get dropped off in France.

16's get dropped of in Italy.....

0
Slick | 12 October 2011 - 12:13pm

What a strange world we live in

Surely the person with the worst score should be doomed to life in France ... at least in Italy it's possible to eat and drink well.

1
JohnW | 12 October 2011 - 1:09pm

It's the British way

doncha know? Now, I do not believe we have your score sir. You like Grind Og Spik? Faroes for this one chaps.

1
The Californian | 12 October 2011 - 1:36pm

Couldn't be arsed!

As I've noted elsewhere, I started the quiz but couldn't be arsed to finish it. I think you'll find that that, sir, is the British way and I'm staying put!

1
JohnW | 12 October 2011 - 2:28pm

Good show old chap,

carry on.

0
The Californian | 12 October 2011 - 6:47pm

Ce sera bon pour moi!

Au revoir Madame l'Arbitre. A beintot.

0
Red Umpire | 12 October 2011 - 2:32pm

Which means...

...15s go to Greece, 14s go to Turkey. Does that mean my new home is Cyprus?
Who invented that handicapping anyway?
You missed Portugal & Spain so theoretically I'd end up in Greece. So if I have to sit out the rest of my days on Mylopatas beach on Ios, renting out deck chairs and listening to the loud assorted classic rock booming out from Far Out Café's speakers, then you can bog off...

0
Johnimator | 16 October 2011 - 4:42pm

Johnny's Electric Bar

has a better jukebox, or did have. But Paros is nicer, anyway.

0
Vulpes Vulpes | 18 October 2011 - 3:49pm

13

Christ, there's a knock on the door. I'm hiding under the table, hope to be back soon.

3
Axekeith | 11 October 2011 - 5:02pm

I come over here, take your jobs

and get 13 points. Bagsy a spot next to the porthole.

0
Uncle Monty | 11 October 2011 - 5:03pm

16 out of 24.

Thank goodness I passed my US citizenship test in January.

0
Billybob Dylan | 11 October 2011 - 5:11pm

me also

16 out of 24 - and I have been a US Citizen for 3 years.

These questions are bizarre - knowing what a Quango is hardly qualifies you for anything! Although - strangley that was one of the ones I got right.

The US questions were so much more fun - "What is the Ocean to the East of the US called......?"

0
Andrew2 | 11 October 2011 - 6:42pm

Not so

Knowing what a Quango is qualifies you as a Yes Minister fan

1
B Smith | 12 October 2011 - 10:13am

I'm grand here, thanks.

18.
And I'm Irish, living in Ireland.
I'll stay here, thanks, so someone who got heaved out can take my place.
Tiernan

3
tiernan | 11 October 2011 - 5:05pm

16 out of 24

Not too bad for another Irish participant!

0
Springer Bell | 12 October 2011 - 1:33pm

18 out of 24

Looking forward to receiving your postcards from foreign climes

0
Skuds | 11 October 2011 - 5:11pm

Some of the given answers are flawed...

Is the statement below TRUE or FALSE: you can attend a hospital without a GP's letter only in the case of an emergency

The answer they give is TRUE. However I find that I can attend a hospital if I have an appointment, so the answer has to be FALSE.

How many parliamentary constituencies are there?

464, 564, 646, or 664? The official parliamentary website says there 650!

http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/elections-and-voting/constituencies/

0
Baskerville Old Face | 11 October 2011 - 5:21pm

Hospital

To get a hospital appointment, do you not have to first be referred by your GP?

0
Spartacus Mills | 11 October 2011 - 6:07pm

No.

You just have to have a referral. May be from an optician, a dentist, a podiatrist or whoever, but the person referring must be part of a registrable body.

I think..

0
Lenny Law | 11 October 2011 - 11:46pm

The questions date back to 2007

I believe, when there were only 646 constituencies. The last election featured several brand new seats.

0
SimonL | 12 October 2011 - 11:03pm

Well, it is the Grauniad.

So the fact they've spelt some stuff right is some sort of miracle.
You wouldn't get that in the Independant. Ot Tellygraf.

0
Johnimator | 16 October 2011 - 4:46pm

A big 16

And about 5 of them were guesses. Maybe it's time to go back to Scotland.

0
jcm | 11 October 2011 - 5:25pm

me fail English?

That's unpossible

6
Sheev | 11 October 2011 - 5:28pm

second best gag

from the Simpsons. are you Ralph Wiggum ,sheev ?.
P.S You like Thai ?........ is the best gag.

0
Sour Crout | 11 October 2011 - 8:11pm

10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am so not English. And a bit thick.

0
TedLoaf | 11 October 2011 - 5:35pm

14

I'm technically half Scottish though, so, er, I blame that.

0
Fraser M | 11 October 2011 - 5:40pm

Bloody hell!

I got 18, though a lot of mine were more or less random guesses, and a couple were educated guesses. The thought I'm left with is: what a ridiculous test.

0
Rosbif | 11 October 2011 - 5:48pm

12

Looks like there's enough of us illegals to form our own breakaway country: Wordistan

6
malcolm.bruce | 11 October 2011 - 5:55pm

12

average as usual. The only problem I can see of forming a break away republic is how on earth are we going to agree on what the national anthem would be!

0
daddyclark | 11 October 2011 - 8:08pm

11

but I´m Irish and I don't live in the UK. Will I be allowed visit ?

0
On The Fence | 11 October 2011 - 5:57pm

Irish people

routinely know more about British history than we do. After all, a lot of it is about Irish people getting walloped.

And they speak/write in better English.

So you'd be welcome as far as I'm concerned.

2
Moose the Mooche | 11 October 2011 - 6:22pm

11

I'll get my boat

18
Captain Underpants | 11 October 2011 - 6:01pm

14/24

I'll get my coat as well!

0
Uncle Wheaty | 11 October 2011 - 6:03pm

9

but I've been away for a while

0
Sid Williams | 11 October 2011 - 6:06pm

17

It's a plot I tell ya! They want to stop everyone coming in and deport all Word readers!

0
vinblue | 11 October 2011 - 6:08pm

I got 16

the wife got 12. Can we go to California please?

0
badartdog | 11 October 2011 - 6:19pm

with an aching

in your heart?

0
James Blast | 12 October 2011 - 8:54am

16 out of 24

On a serious note, I've no problem with requiring immigrants who want British citizenship to pass the test, provided that every current British citizen is required to pass it, say as a requirement to be able to vote.

2
Humphrey Plugg | 11 October 2011 - 6:26pm

10. Oh dear.

If I'd been given the opportunity to revise I'm confident that I would've done waaay better :-D

0
andielou | 11 October 2011 - 6:32pm

Damn! I wrote the answers on my cuffs

but they got wiped off with the grease from my authentic Briddish Fish and Chips.

0
Moose the Mooche | 11 October 2011 - 6:38pm

19

I think that makes me third in line to the throne.

6
Inky Fingers | 11 October 2011 - 6:40pm

15

I seem to be in good company.

0
nigelthebald | 11 October 2011 - 6:40pm

14

Do I have time to pack or are they on their way now?

0
Cobweb Steve | 11 October 2011 - 6:51pm

*necks sea-sickness pills*

yahoo!!!! cruise time!

(crikey, 13 ou of 24. not impressive.)

0
Hannah | 11 October 2011 - 7:01pm

You'd better start baking

...it's going to be a busy cruise.

I got 15, so a fail at 63%. Does that qualify me for a tax refund?

0
Helena Handcart | 11 October 2011 - 8:07pm

Looks like the Word Birds are all migrating

15 - poor show, eh what?

0
millymollymandy | 11 October 2011 - 8:49pm

Cool!

Word birds afloat on a boat! Should be a splendid floating mingle.

(HH - yes, I'll get baking now)

2
Hannah | 11 October 2011 - 10:51pm

Wot - there's not a

Polish, Urdu, Mandarin or simplified English version of the test paper? What am I supposed to do - learn English or sumfink?

2
Mark JF | 11 October 2011 - 7:03pm

12

And all but two of those were guesses.

0
backwards7 | 11 October 2011 - 7:04pm

13

Just over 50% is surely enough to allow me to stay in the country?

0
Rigid Digit | 11 October 2011 - 7:06pm

I got 13

Does this mean I don't have to go down the pub now to support my national football team who I have convinced myself can beat the world champions?

1
The Californian | 11 October 2011 - 7:11pm

No

Just That.

0
geacher53 | 11 October 2011 - 9:24pm

Didn't get your score

country boy. Need a translator?

0
The Californian | 11 October 2011 - 10:44pm

Hey, scored Zero

But the reality is that I could have scored 26 if I had really tried, but need to get out of here.
Mike Nesmith is singing "Rio" on the jukebox, so Latvia it is for me then....

0
geacher53 | 12 October 2011 - 9:30pm

Unlucky for some....13

I'm not leaving though....not until I can get the podcast overseas.

To the woods....or maybe the hills.

0
bigsteviecook | 11 October 2011 - 7:19pm

14...

...clearly academic qualifications count for nought and be very afraid, I teach overseas students!

0
Toffee the Cat | 11 October 2011 - 7:19pm

17

Somewhere hot and sunny please!

Still can't work out why there's a question about Trick or Treat - a Stateside tradition, surely?

0
renkadima | 11 October 2011 - 7:20pm

Yes

They don't like talking about Guy Fawkes much these days..............

0
Lunaman | 11 October 2011 - 8:08pm

Between two of us

we got 19 Wife staying in the country for the summer and I get the winter.

0
Tony Donaghey | 11 October 2011 - 7:20pm

I gave up

after question 7. There didn't seem much point in prolonging the agony.

0
Wardour | 11 October 2011 - 7:21pm

16

Maybe it's lucky I have Swedish citizenship as well.

0
duco01 | 11 October 2011 - 7:22pm

16

Does that mean I'm also off to Sweden? Who's got my coat?

0
happy harry | 11 October 2011 - 7:25pm

14...

and I guessed most of those.

0
Patrick Crowther | 11 October 2011 - 7:27pm

just 17, you know what I mean

Nothing about pop music or sport. Without those two things, Britain would be rubbish. All right, perhaps just the pop music.

0
Austin | 11 October 2011 - 7:28pm

The Halloween question is really bizarre

As a UK citizen I have at some point acted in the way described in the last three answers i.e. given money, sweets or ignored the little shits but never called the police.

Does this make me a bad citizen?

If so, how?

1
Uncle Wheaty | 11 October 2011 - 7:43pm

The question though was how to avoid the tricks

-you can hide - but they may still egg your house.

Obviously no-one wants money - in fact they'll be so insulted by the offer they'll egg your house. Or call the police - "hi, we're trick and treating and this perv' is trying to give us money".

And if you call the police they will take a few hours to get around to driving past, by which time the trick or treaters will have egged your house.

So the sweets answer is the only correct response.

0
Slick | 12 October 2011 - 12:11pm

I answered the door

to some trick or treaters, looked at them,said ' I don't think we're in at the moment, I'll just go and check' and shut the door on them. I hope I left them somewhat bemused.
Oh and a friend gives chocolate covered brussel sprouts. (MMMMMM)

3
hubertrawlinson | 12 October 2011 - 12:56pm

Excellent strategy.

Anyone know where I can buy some chocolate dipped deep-fried locusts? Fraser?

0
Vulpes Vulpes | 12 October 2011 - 4:18pm

... Crunchy Frog?

or chocolate covered cotton balls a la Catch 22?

Best of all, give them ketamine laced with broccoli - that'll learn 'em.

0
Moose the Mooche | 12 October 2011 - 9:49pm

Won't try it

Just glad I got in when I did. Now, about that Italian passport...

0
MyAmericanMate | 11 October 2011 - 7:30pm

15 here.

My favourite was the one that went:

"How might you stop young people playing tricks on you at Halloween?"

To which the correct answer is of course, tell them to "FUCK OFF and stop imitating the colonials".

12
Vulpes Vulpes | 11 October 2011 - 7:38pm

17

A borderline fail, so show me to the border.

0
James EB | 11 October 2011 - 7:39pm

14

It looks as if Richard Thompson's UK record sales are going to slump, doesn't it?

3
JoLean | 11 October 2011 - 7:55pm

17

Its not far to Scotland fortunately

0
FakeGeordie | 11 October 2011 - 8:02pm

16

But I *can* name six current or former members of Uriah Heep, including two of the bass players.

4
skirky | 11 October 2011 - 8:08pm

16

Will the last one turn off the lights etc

0
Malc | 11 October 2011 - 8:10pm

13

*packs worldly goods into a red and white spotty hanky and ties it to stick^

2
Beezer | 11 October 2011 - 8:13pm

In that case it must be time for this....

see you on the boat!

1
daddyclark | 11 October 2011 - 8:17pm

22

c'mon,easy peasy. But wait ! technically i'm an immigrant,i was 4 years old when we came to the UK,My old man wouldn't have passed a test like that.

0
Sour Crout | 11 October 2011 - 8:13pm

You must clearly represent us in Parliament!

I will vote for you.

I will also support your potential Private Members Bill to expunge NWOBHM from our musical history books!

0
Uncle Wheaty | 11 October 2011 - 8:28pm

am overwhelmed

Thank you,Uncle, I must admit I had thought about that.Think i might face some resistance from The Crowther party though.

0
Sour Crout | 11 October 2011 - 8:36pm

He would no doubt stand as a pro Supertramp candidate

I reckon the electorate's hatred for NWOBHM would overcome that easily if campaigned well.

0
Uncle Wheaty | 11 October 2011 - 9:02pm

They'll be knocking on my door

A mere 13. Gulp!

0
Carl Parker | 11 October 2011 - 8:22pm

15

I'll get my cat.

5
katyg | 11 October 2011 - 8:25pm

If you've got a cat you can't be deported.

Theresa May says. Must be true.

2
Moose the Mooche | 12 October 2011 - 1:00pm

We've got 2 guinea pigs

Do they count?

0
daddyclark | 12 October 2011 - 7:59pm

Crabs?

Do they count?

2
geacher53 | 12 October 2011 - 9:49pm

Only if

they have access to a calculator. Otherwise they struggle.

1
daddyclark | 13 October 2011 - 8:18pm

Calculator?

You don't need a calculator to count. No. That's for doing calculations or writing BOOBLESS upside down...

0
Johnimator | 16 October 2011 - 4:53pm

16 out of 24

You'll miss me, you hear....

0
David Sutherland | 11 October 2011 - 8:28pm

15

Im pleased, i never did that well at school and lets face it the nights are creeping in. Can somebody drop me off in the Bahamas please apparently i have a very distant relative, will keep you posted if she has any spare room.

1
bert fegg | 11 October 2011 - 8:39pm

F-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-fourteen

Bugger. Well, it looks like I'll be leaving the UK as well which included Scotland last time I checked but who knows? Given my woeful performance I shouldn't take anything for granted.

I'm a bit nonplussed about being kicked out because I didn't know the results of the Census are secret for 100 years (apart from the stuff splattered all over the media as soon as it's published), that schools have to open for 190 days a year (rather than 200 as i guessed), and that I thought kids aged 13-16 could only work 10 hours a school week (when they can actually be brutally exploited for 12). I'm not fit to be UKanian.

0
Glenbervie | 11 October 2011 - 9:06pm

12

I'm out and travelling in steerage, unless they follow with a supplementary quiz relating to the lyrics of David Bowie from 1970 through to 1984.

1
art vanderlay | 11 October 2011 - 9:08pm

What a low score means

Surely a long time resident or native getting a low score says more about how rubbish the test is than anything else. I couldn't be bothered to answer all the questions because I found myself guessing and then realising that if I don't know the answer then you don't need to know the answer. I guess it needs to be treated like any other exam though. If you want a good score then you need to revise and once you walk out of the room you may never need the info again... but you might just remember something from the swotting! lets hope that if they learn anything, it's the speed limit on a single carriageway (which does matter because it's not actually displayed anywhere and not the official title of the governing body of the EU which surely only matters to somebody that works there.

3
JohnW | 11 October 2011 - 9:09pm

A piss-poor 12

Seriously though, I think these dice are loaded.

0
Doods | 11 October 2011 - 9:15pm

9

I won't be giving up my Norwegian passport any time soon.

Can I still visit the UK a couple of times a year?

0
Kjell | 11 October 2011 - 9:21pm

You can...

...visit as often as you like. Not many of us will be here, though.

1
JoLean | 11 October 2011 - 9:22pm

Cool!

Fewer people on the tube is a good thing!

1
Kjell | 12 October 2011 - 12:40pm

19

Not many passes on these boards, looks like the country is going to be very empty.

0
SimonL | 11 October 2011 - 9:27pm

My wife is Australian...

...and as part of her preparation for taking this very test (she passed), last Christmas we had a grand family citizenship quiz based on the UK and Oz tests. Well, we have to make our own entertainment here in Cornwall.

Four people took it, two UK and 2 Oz - I was the Magnus Magnusson. (For our alien friends, he was a popular quizmaster on a TV show called Mastermind.) With no preparation, all four got full marks in the Oz test, all four failed the UK test miserably.

We decided that the UK test was framed by civil servants who had absolutely no interest in welcoming anybody foreign to this fine country of ours. David Cameron has announced today that they're going to incorporate history questions in the test for the first time. This is so Brits can fail it even more miserably.

2
mikethep | 11 October 2011 - 9:33pm

"Mr Cameron...

...In 1994, whose mum swung you a £90k a year job at Carlton Communications, thanks to her friendship with its executive chairman Michael Green?"

"Samantha's."

"Correct. You're doing well with the history questions."

6
Glenbervie | 11 October 2011 - 10:15pm

He must have done something right since, though

If it had been pure neoptism he would surely have sunk like a brick once employed - unless, of course, he continues to have friends in high places.

D'oh.

1
geedubyapee | 12 October 2011 - 1:38pm

12

Only lived here for 61 years since birth with a degree and a professional job - shit, I'm in trouble. Joking aside, my company lost a damn good IT bloke lately because of the new immigration rules - this really all stinks IMHO...

0
NigelT | 11 October 2011 - 9:45pm

see you at the airport

15. Crikey. Not so good. My excuse is I didn't read the questions properly. That didn't work for my O levels so doubt it would work now.

0
cradlerock | 11 October 2011 - 9:49pm

16

A fail of course but not bad considering I come from one of your more far-flung colonies and have spent a total of about a month in the UK ever.
All it proves is I'm a pretty good guesser but not a great one. I knew exactly three answers, the trick or treat one, Hansard and thanks to Yes Minister I know what a quango is. Although why you'd spell it with a U is beyond me.

1
Cookieboy | 11 October 2011 - 10:07pm

I'm a big fat fail on 13 too

But then I'm Scottish, we're not really "British" anyway, according to Simon Heffer, David Starkey the Daily Telegraph etc etc etc.

I blame the Scottish higher eductation system.

1
BernkastelCues | 11 October 2011 - 10:19pm

Simon Heffer

Simon Heffer - A well known font of compassion, reason & love for his fellow man.

0
jackthebiscuit | 12 October 2011 - 10:08am

Simon Heffer

Memorably described in The Word as 'fuming weirdo Simon Heffer'. I remember his piece on the Suffolk strangler, where he insisted on referring to the murdered women as 'tarts'.

0
Spartacus Mills | 12 October 2011 - 10:10am

Attempts to resist the

urge to post Stewart Lee's take on Littlejohn's apoplexy at the fact that the victims were discribed as "women working as prostitutes"...

0
Fraser M | 12 October 2011 - 12:30pm

14

I'm part French so I guess I'll soon be all French. I'm hoping that the French citizenship questionnaire consists of lots of questions to which the answers are "England" or The English". Any ideas?

0
wayfarer | 11 October 2011 - 10:16pm

Bonjour, bonsoir et bienvenue

1. Oubliez le marketing et oubliez Heston Blumenthal. Quel pays mange pizzas-à-emporter et le curry, tous les soirs?

2. Quel pays a une équipe nationale de football dont les joueurs sont riches, stupide et mauvais? Plus terrible que la nôtre?

3. Quel est le pays prend la pisse hors du président Sarkozy, mais a voté pour David Cameron? Sérieusement?

4. Quel est le pays pense que Stella Artois est sophistiqué, lol? (Ou mort de rire - mdr - comme on dit en Angleterre.)

5. Quel pays porte l'Ecosse comme un chapeau stratégique?

2
Glenbervie | 12 October 2011 - 11:17am

You Don't Fool Me

The late Miles Kington.

I claim my £5

1
illuminatus | 12 October 2011 - 11:33am

Cent Pour Cent!

Alors - Je suis Francais!

0
wayfarer | 12 October 2011 - 12:34pm

So, 100 comments

and, apart from the odd smart-ass, we all failed (I got 14 and quite a few of those were guesses). Good one Dave, did you choose the questions yourself?

0
Nick Duvet | 11 October 2011 - 10:26pm

Actually this test dates from the days of Mr Blair

who, as we know, is COMPLETELY different

0
Moose the Mooche | 11 October 2011 - 10:39pm

11 out of 24

C'MON YOU F*CKING TORIES! KICK ME OUT! I DARE YOU!

Sorry folks, I came over all funny there.

2
ganglesprocket | 11 October 2011 - 11:29pm

On the subject of being kicked out

I've always wondered, when I get back to Blighty from some far distant land, and I saunter towards passport control, what happens if they say no. I live here, I always have. Does this ever happen to born and bred UK citizens?

0
JohnW | 12 October 2011 - 7:16am

Depends...

...what colour you are.

3
mikethep | 12 October 2011 - 7:43am

Nearly happened to me

On the way back in from New York (it was my honeymoon) I got to the desk, the did that machine thing with my passport and then told me it didn't exist. I told them it did and that it was there system that was wrong. I had to sit on a chair at the side (you never notice these chairs are there until you have to sit and wait for 15 minutes).

Turns out that the systems was confused - I used to have 2 passports to enable travel on one whilst visas were being processed on the other. One had been stolen on a trip to the US years before and I had cancelled it. Seems that they decided, some 5 years later, to cancel the other one as well.

I would like to say that the immigration officials dealt with this problem in a polite and friendly way. But that would be lying. They were rude, uncommunicative and unhelpful. I think they had their humour and humanity sucked out of them on a training course in Feltham.

0
Leedsboy | 12 October 2011 - 10:39am

Erm

"I used to have 2 passports to enable travel on one whilst visas were being processed on the other."

Isn't that, like, illegal?

0
Red Umpire | 12 October 2011 - 2:37pm

Not

if you're Jack Bauer.

0
Moose the Mooche | 12 October 2011 - 3:04pm

No.

But you have to have a good reason. Lots of short trips around Africa, Middles East and Europe was a good reason. An Iranian or Syrian visa takes about a week to sort out. Tricky if you need to be somewhere else that week.

Even spies need a passport*

* for spy, read bloke that buys airport services for the worlds favourite airline

1
Leedsboy | 12 October 2011 - 3:17pm

Fair enough

Presumably it's a strictly controlled entitlement?

0
Red Umpire | 12 October 2011 - 3:28pm

I suspect it's harder now

This would have been 16 years ago. Just sent a letter from my employer on headed paper with, I think, a specific form. The sad part is I had a collection of pretty impressive visa stamps in the one that got nicked and dull ones in the one that didn't.

0
Leedsboy | 12 October 2011 - 9:50pm

Back in the day, if you were a global traveller...

...like that there Leedsboy, you might have needed two passports to keep your South African visas away from any other African Country or your Israeli visas away from almost any other Middle East/African country.

0
Gavin Adam | 14 October 2011 - 4:30pm

12/24

and - similar to many here - a lot were guesses. Bizarro questions, anyway!

Being Scottish (as I am) seems to be emerging as a standard excuse/explanation, though, so that offers me some succour.

0
iainiain | 12 October 2011 - 9:18am

13

But screw you, government, I already live outside the UK so what are you going to do now? In YOUR face, Cameron.

2
Clash | 12 October 2011 - 9:20am

20/24

Send a postcard folks - and don't forget to turn the lights off

My, it's going to be quiet around here soon

I remember when all these fields were houses....

10
whitehorsehill | 12 October 2011 - 9:22am

SIR! (or madam)

That was funny...gave you an up, should have been three!

0
geacher53 | 12 October 2011 - 9:44pm

There was a shopping mall

Now it's nothing but flowers

2
thecheshirecat | 13 October 2011 - 12:24am

I dream of cherry pies,candy bars and

chocolate chips cookies...

1
whitehorsehill | 13 October 2011 - 10:44pm

You've got it

You've Got it!

1
JohnW | 14 October 2011 - 7:10am

Johnny Marr does soukous

...mmmm bliss.

0
Moose the Mooche | 14 October 2011 - 8:26pm

Pretty dismal

12. It appears you have to prepare buy reading a book available from HM Stationary Office for £9.99. So one assumed with a little revision it must be pretty easy since it's all multiple choice and fact based. Then, as note above, you can forget it all and get on with life. Strikes me a test in being able to speak English would be much more useful.

0
Twangothan | 12 October 2011 - 9:25am

the very best thing about HM Stationary Office

is that it doesn't move around a lot

8
Glenbervie | 12 October 2011 - 11:21am

You should pity poor Twangers,

he's popping pain killers like he was Keef in the Toronto Hilton at the moment; a little typo or two is the least of his worries!

1
Vulpes Vulpes | 12 October 2011 - 4:23pm

19/24

Just passed.

One of the few that I was sure was correct: there are 650 members of the HoC according to this test appears to be incorrect.

0
Sebastian Beach | 12 October 2011 - 9:38am

14.

But then, I'm a terrorist plotting the overthrow of British civilisation. So I don't care.

4
Bob | 12 October 2011 - 10:01am

A couple of years ago my now

A couple of years ago my now wife was taking this test (she's from South Africa) and I read the book that you learn from. Most of it was news to me, I have to say!

She got 23/24.

0
Art Vandelay | 12 October 2011 - 10:23am

I have a vision

of the UK leaving the European Union, resulting in me having to apply for a visa to stay in Bavaria.

There'll be some sort of Bayerische Prüfung, where the invigilator will lay out ten different types of bread roll and I'll have to name them all.

"Erm … Vollkornmohnnußsemmel?"

1
Brookster | 12 October 2011 - 10:39am

By the way

I only got 12 out of 24 as well. About the same score a monkey would achieve by lobbing darts at a dartboard.

2
Brookster | 12 October 2011 - 11:30am

Seriously though...

...I've spent a lot of time on Planet UK Border Agency (mantra: 'firm but fair')in the last two or three years, in the labyrinthine (and expensive) process of trying to make sure the Australian woman I had the bad taste to fall in love isn't kicked out of the country. (Don't even get me started on the fact that if she'd been Hungarian she could just have strolled right in. Sorry. Daily Mail moment.)

A citizenship test that is consistently failed by UK citizens who have lived here all their lives is clearly not fit for purpose - I've always assumed they got the idea from one of those more-Brit-than-the-Brits sketches on Goodness Gracious Me. (It's typical of the random whimsicality of the whole experience that it costs £50 to take the test and you can ONLY pay in cash. Forget to go to the cashpoint and you're screwed.)But that's only a small part of it. There's endless and complicated form-filling, hunting down of supporting documentation, getting stuff validated, etc etc, all based on the assumption that you're planning to pull the wool over their eyes. It's all unbelievably stressful, especially once you realise that if you make a mistake, however trivial, the application will be refused and your ££ won't be refunded (oh, and your wife packed off to the other side of the world). There's also the novel experience, if you're a solvent and law-abiding Brit, of being treated as though you're a criminal planning to import asylum seekers by the truckload.

Anyway, I could rant for hours about all this, and frequently have, so I'll shut up. Now that Jen has her Indefinite Leave to Remain it all seems like a bad dream. In my case the Fun Prevention Officers work for the UKBA.

13
mikethep | 12 October 2011 - 10:40am

I hear Antigua's nice this time of year...

15 out of 24 - oh, i'm going to barbados!

0
über-über | 12 October 2011 - 11:15am

I find it interesting

that, of the posters on here, to this point I think eight (8) have passed. I failed too, having scored a mere 14. As others have said, this tells us more about the test than anything else, as I'd say from previous experience in these precincts, that the composition of this board is not a random sample of the UK's population. I'd go as far as to say that, if articulacy were an indicator, we were working a bit higher up the bell curve than 50th percentile. If we're not getting these questions right, what would the general score among the indigenous population be? I don't think they'd manage 75%, for a start. I think our average is bumping around the 60-65% mark. Maybe that might be a better pass score to start with.

And the questions are useless. you don't need to know exactly how many seats there are in the Commons. You might need to know who your own MP is, what party he or she belongs to, which is the party in government and there are a bit over 600 MPs in Parliament. That's it really, isn't it?

As for the "How many people up to 19 years old" question. Does it make the slightest bit of difference if you answer 13 or 14 million, as long as you know it's roughly around 1 in 5?

Basically, it's finnicky and it's bollocks and doesn't do what it's designed to do properly

But then, that's not what having it is about, is it?

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illuminatus | 12 October 2011 - 11:47am

Some points

Although, as you probably already saw above, I'm broadly in agreement, I disagree on the details.
Firstly, I don't think that the general score among the whole population would be a lot different as, apart from a few inteligent guesses, I would image that the vast majority of the answers to obtain the scores above were complete guesses.
Secondly, it's not necessary to know who your MP is (I think I know but I'm not sure) it's not even necessary to know what they stand for.
Thirdly, why does the average man on the street need to know even the proportion of up to 19 year olds? I wouldn't even be able to say what the total population is!
Thirdly, I completely agree with you placing us all in the upper bracket for articulacy!

0
JohnW | 12 October 2011 - 1:27pm

Right then

the majority are in, here's the plan.

A boat this big is too expensive to build so..

All those that passed will go to live on the Isle of Wight. Those that failed will stay on the mainland and get towed to the Arctic where most of what was Great Britain will help plug the hole in the melting icecaps. Pack a cardigan.

3
jimmyshoes01 | 12 October 2011 - 11:56am

I get to stay

with 18/24

although that included a couple of lucky guesses.

The questions on the first census and when did women get right to divorce questions are about as relevant to modern life as :

"what was the highest position "I am a cider drinker" by The Wurzels reached in the official BBC charts ?".

If this deportation boat is going somewhere nice can I retake the test and fail it this time ?

1
Slick | 12 October 2011 - 12:14pm

What should the entry test be about then?

Plainly if you know about 19th century British foreign policy then you're stuffed but if you know about 19th century British social history then you're okay. If you have studied contemporary UK demographics then that's fine but if you have interesting opinions about the West Lothian Question then you're surplus to requirements. Echoing illuminatus a couple of comments back, it's bollocks.

So what should it be about? Concepts around community, democracy, fairness, liberty, self-reliance and tolerance - cherry-pick your own desired value - might be more useful than knowing when the first Census happened...

1
Glenbervie | 12 October 2011 - 12:31pm

Nah, never happen...

...'community, democracy, fairness, liberty, self-reliance and tolerance'? Where would we be if a whole bunch of people who believed in that sort of hippyish nonsense turned up and demanded to be let in? Might upset the whole political balance of this country!

1
mikethep | 12 October 2011 - 12:48pm

A paltry 11

Which way to steerage?

0
Roo | 12 October 2011 - 12:40pm

12

12 here also... but then I was (voluntarily) deported 18 years ago and only come back once a year or so.....

0
chrisf | 12 October 2011 - 1:19pm

16 for me

but if I took it again right now, it would be a different score.

Where are we all being deported to?

0
geedubyapee | 12 October 2011 - 1:28pm

2 12's

for me and the FPO. She's happier given she's not British.

0
Los Aromas | 12 October 2011 - 7:57pm

All these foreigners,coming on here..

reading our fine, decent Britisher magazines with their foreigner eyes. Clicking their foreigner keyboards with their podgie little pasty coloured (or long, thin unBritisher brown) fingers. Smelling of their garlicky and unpotato accommpanied and unboiled or unfried food.

It makes my blood boil, it really does. I'm off to make an unsolicited donation to Mr Nick Grffin.

He's un upright Britisher son of Albion who can be trusted to spend it wisely I';m sure.

0
BernkastelCues | 12 October 2011 - 10:25pm

Nick Griffin

He's the man in the street isn't he? And Sid met him. And summed him up well.

0
Leedsboy | 12 October 2011 - 10:43pm

13 I'm glad I opted out

My mum was Irish, when my last UK passport expired I was so fed up with the way Tony Blair etc had behaved about Iraq that the best way I could protest was to change my nationality to Irish. If I could have a joint Welsh / Irish passport I would.

0
alunrees | 13 October 2011 - 1:15pm

A sense of community

Interesting that this test seems to have done a far better job of creating a spirit of "we're all in it together" than all "Dave's" other efforts - even if we're all in a boat sailing away from these shores...

2
millymollymandy | 13 October 2011 - 1:40pm

Well,

if we're being picky, "we're all out if it together" might be more like it. Please feel free to interpret as you will :)

0
illuminatus | 13 October 2011 - 3:35pm

Being out of it

on a boat, with the rest of the Massive, sounds like a splendid way to wave goodbye to Blighty

1
millymollymandy | 13 October 2011 - 5:24pm

on a boat

Its not a boat, its a ship.

0
jackthebiscuit | 13 October 2011 - 8:15pm

I'll get my coat ...

and my hat, shoes, socks and anything else I can lug aboard the good ship deportee.

16 out of 24.

The FPO works at the Borders Agency so I should get some nice personal treatment as I'm waved bye bye.

0
weecelt | 13 October 2011 - 5:33pm

15/24

That's me out.

0
heshofcheese | 13 October 2011 - 11:13pm

THIS IS MORE LIKE IT

Someone has posted a REAL citizenship test, rather than all that nonsense about constitutions, etc.

http://realcitizenshiptest.co.uk/quiz.php?n=1

2
JoLean | 13 October 2011 - 10:21pm

10/10

Wahey! back in!

0
heshofcheese | 13 October 2011 - 11:13pm

9 / 10

I shant be giving up the sea view just yet.

0
jackthebiscuit | 14 October 2011 - 11:02am

I'm back in

Having spent my childhood in Scotland, my teens in Wales and my adult life in various parts of England I thought I had a better idea than most of what was representative of being British. The official citizenship test suggested otherwise (13/25); 10 out of 10 on this one made me think again.

0
Gatz | 14 October 2011 - 11:21am

9/10 for me too

I got the salt and vinegar one wrong! No salt for me. I'm not sure that I should be sent to the salt mines because of it though!

0
JohnW | 14 October 2011 - 3:36pm

10/10 for me too.

That made me pwopa chuckle, that.

0
Bob | 15 October 2011 - 6:46pm

A score of 10/10

...and lots of LOL as a bonus.

0
engl63 | 14 October 2011 - 2:23pm

Christ

I failed that one too.

0
Helena Handcart | 15 October 2011 - 3:52pm

Bye!

How?!

0
JohnW | 15 October 2011 - 5:19pm

Well,

if I knew that, I'd have passed.

Scored 7

0
Helena Handcart | 15 October 2011 - 6:34pm

don't know who Ant and Dec are

So I only got 9. Or rather, I know they are TV presenters but don't know which is which. But I left the UK in 1982 so I suppose I'm excused. Got 12/24 in the original, bollocksy one.

0
timjulian | 14 October 2011 - 4:18pm

Wasn't that the correct answer?

I'm sure I chose the 'can't tell' option and got full marks.

0
Gatz | 14 October 2011 - 4:25pm

Of course

Out of the three possible answers, that was obviously the one to pick, and the one that got you the points. The real answer is, of course, "Nobody really knows".

0
JohnW | 14 October 2011 - 5:01pm

Bonus points

on QI

0
Moose the Mooche | 14 October 2011 - 8:28pm

The best laugh in "Love Actually"...

...no, bear with me... is when Bill Nighy says "Thank you, Ant or Dec."

As much as I hate the term "guilty pleasure", it's hard to think of another one for Love Actually. Everyone in the know HATES it, says it's the worst, least coherent, punchable and implausible bag of Curtis-by-numbers penguin shit ever committed to film.

But it makes me cry. Yes, it actually makes me cry. Every fucking time. Actual tears. It's that bit with Egg out of This Life and the flashcards that does it.

I love it, even though it's hard to imagine a film that it's more "against the rules" to love. So there.

Oh, I appear to have wandered off-topic. And, presumably, beyond the pale.

1
Bob | 15 October 2011 - 6:53pm

Nervously stands up,, coughs...

...And says, "hello, my name is Les, & I like love actually"

Sits back down, avoiding any eye contact.

0
jackthebiscuit | 15 October 2011 - 8:57pm

(cough)

me too. Emma Thompson and Joni Mitchell. Blurt!

0
Captain Underpants | 15 October 2011 - 10:53pm

Love, Actually

I like bits of it too. Oddly though, the bit with Keira Knightley & Andrew Lincoln is the strand I cannot bear.

It's the Emma T bit, really, but I quite like Colin Firth being a useless English man too.

0
JoLean | 16 October 2011 - 11:29am

I can't bear the Egg storyline either.

Stupid passive-aggressive jealous sneaky best-mate's-girl-pining-after-and-ACTUALLY-DOING-SOMETHING-ABOUT-IT git. Especially when the girl in question is as annoying as La Knightley is in that film.

It's just that scene. That one scene. It kills me.

Oh yeah, and the Emma T thing. If I actually watch it around Christmas, with Mrs B, which we generally do because she likes it too, I'm a total mess. On account of loving Christmas, hopeless romance and her. It's a deadly combination.

1
Bob | 17 October 2011 - 1:58pm

don't know who Ant and Dec are

don't know who Ant and Dec are - Nor do I - does it matter?

Pair of cunts.

0
jackthebiscuit | 15 October 2011 - 6:47pm

this man speaks the truth

0
James Blast | 15 October 2011 - 10:40pm

25/25 for me...

...took three attempts though!

1
Gavin Adam | 14 October 2011 - 4:38pm

Score

16/25 I'm packing my bags!

0
Simon Williams | 16 October 2011 - 10:15pm

See if I care 13

You've got to find me first, maybe I try to live with Dale Farm chappies in civilsed manner and get public sympathy and own tv show.

0
Ivanovitch | 20 October 2011 - 8:28pm

My Thai girlfriend

pissed it. Swotty cow.She kept asking me random questions when studying, all of which I failed abysmally, to much Oriental cackling.

0
ianess | 1 November 2011 - 1:35am
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