Entertainment For Lively Minds
I could not do that
Posted by woodface on 1 May 2009 - 3:23pm.
I watched the Steely Dan classic albums programe on Sky Arts the other night and I could not believe the sheer attention detail involved in making this record. I could not possibly conceive the level of musical nouse required to deliver such an album. It is not actually my favourite of theirs, I prefer Katy Lied, but my admiration is pretty much boundless.
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My thoughts too...
...and they didn't even get round to discussing Steve Gadd's drumming on the title track. They could probably devote an entire programme to that alone!
The Second Arrangement - or 5th, 6th or 20th
It's the best of the Classic Albums series I think as it offers genuine insight into the balance between creativity and technique. For me, someone who genuflects before anyone who can play a note, the level of expertise and insight assembled is staggering.
I love the bit where Fagen sings along "uptown baby, uptown baby" with the hip-hop track sampling Black Cow. And Dury talking about The Dan - with an interesting comment about how he finds them "uplifting" - in contrast to some commonly held views on the group.
I love the comment from the guitar player (I forget which one!) who says something along the lines of "they go beyond perfection - so that it creates a natural, improvised sound".
The beauty and mystery of The Dan - beyond perfection into the natural.
Now, if only the show had been about Gaucho...
Yes indeed
one of the best music programmes I've seen - I can watch it again and again.
Do you 'ave eet on ze Toppy?
Zut, ah would lurve a copee, er copy, sorry, stuck still negotiating the Champs at 120 kph.
Let me know if you can't source a copy
I appear to have all the Classic Albums shows that, errr, escaped from somewhere, somehow (wanders off, whistling)
Ummmm...
I've been trying to, errr, 'find' copies of those for ages. Never had any luck tho!
there is a rumour
there is a rumour that demonoid can help here. and it can also help you find "Donald Fagen's Concepts for Jazz-Rock Piano".
if you need any more info, let me know
The Box
..has them all I think.
Gadd at work
but then I love the Purdie shuffle too!
Drum clinics... hmmm...
it doesn't matter how brilliant the drummer is, I always feel a little sorry for him when he takes questions from the audience...
Nerd in Zildjian t-shirt:"Good evening Mr Gadd... could you please take us through the legendary unused drum fill from the Steely Dan song 'Aja'?"
Gadd groans audibly: "Well sure... (thinks to himself: "Jeez, that session was 32 years ago... how the f**k am I supposed to remember what the hell I played? I'll play them some fancy shit and that'll do for them.") ...it went like this..."
I know what you mean
and I doubt I'd ever go to such a thing live - but in short digestible clips as the above - the sheer physical dexterity, the ability to vary rhythmic intensity - and keep perfect time - just knock me out.
Drummerworld.com has got an amazngly comprehensive list - including a drum track by Bonham - Fool in The Rain drums only - which I can listen to as a stand alone piece over and over
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/John_Bonham.html
Oh, don't get me wrong...
I could listen all day long to Steve Gadd's playing... the man is just an incredible, incredible musician. The subtlest drummer I've ever heard (probably).
Drumming?
How has this thread mutated into 'drummers world'? Anyway, Art Blakey is the best ever.