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I could not do that

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I watched the Steely Dan classic albums programe on Sky Arts the other night and I could not believe the sheer attention detail involved in making this record. I could not possibly conceive the level of musical nouse required to deliver such an album. It is not actually my favourite of theirs, I prefer Katy Lied, but my admiration is pretty much boundless.

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My thoughts too...

...and they didn't even get round to discussing Steve Gadd's drumming on the title track. They could probably devote an entire programme to that alone!

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Steerpike | 1 May 2009 - 4:30pm

The Second Arrangement - or 5th, 6th or 20th

It's the best of the Classic Albums series I think as it offers genuine insight into the balance between creativity and technique. For me, someone who genuflects before anyone who can play a note, the level of expertise and insight assembled is staggering.

I love the bit where Fagen sings along "uptown baby, uptown baby" with the hip-hop track sampling Black Cow. And Dury talking about The Dan - with an interesting comment about how he finds them "uplifting" - in contrast to some commonly held views on the group.

I love the comment from the guitar player (I forget which one!) who says something along the lines of "they go beyond perfection - so that it creates a natural, improvised sound".

The beauty and mystery of The Dan - beyond perfection into the natural.

Now, if only the show had been about Gaucho...

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Sheev | 2 May 2009 - 7:31am

Yes indeed

one of the best music programmes I've seen - I can watch it again and again.

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Twangothan | 1 May 2009 - 5:42pm

Do you 'ave eet on ze Toppy?

Zut, ah would lurve a copee, er copy, sorry, stuck still negotiating the Champs at 120 kph.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 1 May 2009 - 6:25pm

Let me know if you can't source a copy

I appear to have all the Classic Albums shows that, errr, escaped from somewhere, somehow (wanders off, whistling)

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stimpy | 1 May 2009 - 9:03pm

Ummmm...

I've been trying to, errr, 'find' copies of those for ages. Never had any luck tho!

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humphreym | 1 May 2009 - 10:51pm

there is a rumour

there is a rumour that demonoid can help here. and it can also help you find "Donald Fagen's Concepts for Jazz-Rock Piano".

if you need any more info, let me know

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el hombre malo | 2 May 2009 - 8:21am

The Box

..has them all I think.

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bigsteviecook | 2 May 2009 - 12:55pm

Gadd at work


but then I love the Purdie shuffle too!


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Sheev | 1 May 2009 - 9:44pm

Drum clinics... hmmm...

it doesn't matter how brilliant the drummer is, I always feel a little sorry for him when he takes questions from the audience...

Nerd in Zildjian t-shirt:"Good evening Mr Gadd... could you please take us through the legendary unused drum fill from the Steely Dan song 'Aja'?"

Gadd groans audibly: "Well sure... (thinks to himself: "Jeez, that session was 32 years ago... how the f**k am I supposed to remember what the hell I played? I'll play them some fancy shit and that'll do for them.") ...it went like this..."

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Patrick Crowther | 2 May 2009 - 8:05am

I know what you mean

and I doubt I'd ever go to such a thing live - but in short digestible clips as the above - the sheer physical dexterity, the ability to vary rhythmic intensity - and keep perfect time - just knock me out.

Drummerworld.com has got an amazngly comprehensive list - including a drum track by Bonham - Fool in The Rain drums only - which I can listen to as a stand alone piece over and over

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/John_Bonham.html

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Sheev | 2 May 2009 - 6:11pm

Oh, don't get me wrong...

I could listen all day long to Steve Gadd's playing... the man is just an incredible, incredible musician. The subtlest drummer I've ever heard (probably).

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Patrick Crowther | 2 May 2009 - 7:03pm

Drumming?

How has this thread mutated into 'drummers world'? Anyway, Art Blakey is the best ever.

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woodface | 4 May 2009 - 5:35pm
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