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I am not a religious man but today I found myself repeatedly humming "Hills of the north rejoice". What a cracking tune. Full of majesty and power. While the devil is supposed to have the best tunes, the Man upstairs has a few too. "Jerusalem"! "To be a pilgrim"! Never mind the great gospel performances. Any other faves? Halleluja!

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Amazing Grace

especially if bagpipes are involved.
Makes me cry every time. Maybe because it's been played on a couple of funerals that I have had the misfortune to attend.

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Locust | 13 July 2010 - 5:17pm

Pretty much anything

played on bagpipes is a harrowing experience.

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Brookster | 13 July 2010 - 6:21pm

In That Case

... I hope nobody ever plays you any of Paul Dunmall's CD "Solo Bagpipes". I'm not sure the world is ready for "free" bagpiping.

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Mike_H | 13 July 2010 - 9:34pm

I work in a church school

and lead singing practice. I'm constantly impressed by the power of these tunes, old and new.
For kids I like 'Give Me Oil In My Lamp' and 'One More Step Along The World I Go' just great, really inspiring.
I'm not deeply religious, but it's a truly uplifting experience to hear these songs sung well by a large group.

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Adman | 13 July 2010 - 5:43pm

There Are Millions Of 'Em

Here's one:

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wayfarer | 13 July 2010 - 6:07pm
Mike Todd | 13 July 2010 - 6:27pm

I have....

....a huge amount of affection for the old "English Hymnal" and "Hymns Ancient & Modern" tunes. I was a cathedral chorister as a kid, and the school I went to after that was very proud of the massively raucous and enthusiastic roaring of the hymns every morning in chapel. Yes, I went to public school.

It was brilliant, though: I remember my first morning at public school so clearly. I filed into the very impressive chapel - an almost perfect scaled down copy of King's, Cambridge - with the other new Third Years in my house, all cowering and nervous, and very conscious of my height. I'm 6'0" and had stopped growing by this point, so I stood out a bit. It was really nerve-wracking, and I was conscious of being scrutinised by all these confident, wealthy kids. I could feel a small class chip starting to form on my shoulder, one which grew very healthily over the next few years. Anyway, so the chaplain does his bit and then says "we now sing hymn number 432, Jerusalem The Golden", and 700 people rumble to their feet.

Now, at this point I'm used to cathedral congregations (trying their best but pretty dismal) and the very half-arsed mumble of the occasional hymn in my previous school's assemblies.

So it's simultaneously hilarious and awe-inspiring as the organ finishes the intro, and I realise that every single kid and teacher in the place has drawn a massive inward breath. The wall of noise which erupts from this school's massed throats is indescribable. Every single person in that chapel is singing at the top of their voice, from the sweetest boy treble in the choir to the hairiest tone-deaf rumbling prop forward in the Upper Sixth. It's so loud.

I remember being conscious that my mouth was standing ajar, and then I remember laughing delightedly. And then I joined in. I had five often miserable years at that school, but I never missed chapel. It was such a pleasure, every time - just a joyful, joyful sound.

So:

Jerusalem The Golden
Jerusalem (natch)
Come Down, O Love Divine (beautiful tune, beautiful words. They still roared it.)
Of The Father's Love Begotten (at Christmas)
St. Patrick's Breastplate (I Bind Unto Myself Today)

There are so many. I love a good hymn. Even now, as a very atheist atheist, I like to go to the Cathedral with my mum and dad when I'm home and belt a few tunes out.

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Bob | 13 July 2010 - 6:48pm

Me too

I sang in the choir at school and I guess my first public performance was singing the second verse of "Once in Royal David's City", age 12, at the Christmas carol concert. I still remember when we learned the harmony part to "O come all ye faithful" and as you say, the great mass of voices all singing along in layers. Brrrr. Hairs on end.

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Twangothan | 13 July 2010 - 9:36pm

We did that too

It was pretty much just the headmaster on the first O Come..., joined by the Christian Union wonks and a few of the more sycophantic prefects on the second, and then, with a collective inhalation which so reduced the atmospheric pressure in the hall that it permanently de-tuned the piano, 500 gleeful adolescent boys would give it the full Cardiff Arms Park until the Founder's plaque rattled and fell from the lectern.

The music teacher would be coronary puce at the keyboard. But he was a nasty bastard, known to show First Years new fingering techniques in the trombone storage area, and he's dead now so fuck 'im.

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Captain Underpants | 14 July 2010 - 7:53am

Love it.

Pretty much every sentence in that post made me laugh like a twat. Have an arrer.

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Bob | 14 July 2010 - 8:45am

Something similar. I did two

Something similar.

I did two years at a School where we had morning Assembly in the Cathedral. Ever since then, 'Jerusalem', the School hymn, has had a special place in my heart; 'To Be a Pilgrim', the other school's hymn equally is special. I can still sing them twenty *cough* years later.

Like Idiotbear I'm a confirmed non believer, yet I do find something very reassuring in the old hymns, and indeed Christmas carols. Mind you, I'm also a complete sucker for finding peace and inner quiet in old churches.

You can equally take new modern churches (yes, St Joseph's in Guildford, that includes you) and the newer, clappier hymns and shove 'em. Give me the classics every time!

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sitheref2409 | 13 July 2010 - 7:26pm

For all the Saints...

...which we choirboys sang each Founders Day in the opening procession at the Cathedral. Which means over the years I got to sing all four parts. Oh, and on the Christmas Carol front, noone does it like these guys...Locust, please fill the cultural gaps...

And from the Valleys-Guide me, O thou great Jehovah. Which, as a bass is TREMENDOUS fun to sing.

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Richie B | 13 July 2010 - 7:39pm

Filling cultural gaps

sounds like a painful procedure...
Not my favourite christmas carol this. But I was fascinated by this very odd piece of film...is it a ceiling? And sheet music flapping at the top of the frame now and then...is it upside down ?
The person operating the camera must have been hitting the Glögg before the concert!

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Locust | 16 July 2010 - 1:32am

I know it has suffered from

a politically incorrect backlash but I remember "Onward Christian Soldiers" being the one we all along to at school, even though we didn't really understand the message.

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Dave Amitri | 13 July 2010 - 7:58pm

The Day Thou Gavest Lord Has Ended

I take the Bertrand Russell view on religion, he considered all forms not only wrong but harmful (or something like that), but I´m still a sucker for a good melody and that´s a beautiful one.

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Johnny Topaz | 13 July 2010 - 8:18pm

Anyone from the second year upwards

refused to sing anything at assembly except the last 'O Come let us adore him' at Christmas which was a mighty noise.

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uproar13 | 13 July 2010 - 8:30pm

Abide With Me

Can't get past the second line without blubbing like a child. Something to do with fathers, sons & the memory of days like these...

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nebraska1982 | 13 July 2010 - 8:42pm

Rugby League all went a bit Hollywood for a while

but I was reassured to see Abide With Me sung straight at the Challenge Cup when I last watched. Also adhered to the statutory obligation to show Bernard Cribbins, Michael Parkinson etc during the singing.

I think the dignity and magic of footie at Wembley went with Liverpool's pre-match white suits and gum chewing spivviness in about 1995. Rugby league still has it I think - it's always been raucous but well-behaved (players and fans!)

'Abide with me' used to be known as the Wembley hymn - I remember all as a child those people (most of them veterans) singing 'fast falls the eventide' used to lay my grandfather flat - excuse me I have something in my eye and in several passers-by's eyes as well. For no obvious reason I can think of the muzak at the Metrocentre sometimes plays Abide With Me played by a braass band and you can see how much it affects people - sorry I'm off again....

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FakeGeordie | 15 July 2010 - 3:02pm

A diverse bunch

Some plain song derived

some not

some whose composers didn't really like how they were used (but which I got the music teacher to play as slowly as possible:

)

and some which I thought were by Bach but whose main tune turned out to be Hassler

So perhaps not surprising that I hear echoes everywhere, especially in bands like Split Enz, or is that just me ?

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SpaceBoy | 13 July 2010 - 8:50pm

O Sacred Head.

HOW did I forget that one? To be honest, all the Bach Chorales are pretty awe-inspiring. Hell, all of Bach is pretty awe-inspiring.

I don't know how many of the melodies in his Chorales were original, but the arrangements were, in every sense of the word. Of the few utter, utter geniuses the Western world has produced, only Bach and Shakespeare do it for me every single bloody time. There's genius, and then there's godlike, never-forgotten, changed the world irrevocably for the better GENIUS, and I'm not sure many people beyond Plato, Bach, Shakespeare and Newton really qualify. It must have been so strange, being those people. I wonder if they knew what they were?

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Bob | 14 July 2010 - 8:50am

Indeed

It's been fascinating to me to realise how many of the "big themes" are by Luther or others, and yet as you say, there is no other word than genius for how it's all done---and of course some of his other great tunes are his own.

Saw an excellent one man show on Shakespeare by Simon Callow, he remarked on how well served Shakespeare was by the kind of education he had-learning Greek precepts was actually very good for his needs, and a few made their way into his work. Again, doesn't diminish the mastery at all imo.

I think Newton clearly did know in some sense, but whether that helped him is debatable ;-)

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SpaceBoy | 14 July 2010 - 11:37am

Recently

Whilst watching the excellent "Rev." on the BBC iPlayer I was pleasantly surprised (well astonished to be honest) to still know the words to "He Who Would Valiant Be" after 30 odd years.

By the way, is anyone else enjoying Rev?


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torrential1 | 13 July 2010 - 10:33pm

I am now

thanks for the pointer. [edit: I'd watch Olivia Colman in just about anything though ...]

I guess that circumstances of its composition may have made he "who would valiant be" even more memorable, but I hadn't realised there were two hands involved: http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/h/w/hwhowvbe.htm

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SpaceBoy | 14 July 2010 - 6:09am

Communal singing

When I moved from a primary school in Glasgow to a secondary school in north Wales a great disappointment was the lack of variety in hymns. I used to enjoy belting out any one of a large selection at my previous school, even though I have never been a Christian. I even joined the choir so I could sing more, but led the great primary choir rebellion the following year when I didn't realise that it was a rhetorical question when we were asked if anyone wanted to leave. Three quarters of them, emboldened by my lead rather than out of any loyalty to me, followed.
Back to Wales. I was gutted to find that in my new school we were expected to sing the same hymn every single day in assembly, and it wasn't even one of the good ones. Each day we would mutter through At the Name of Jesus. Why that one is anybody's guess, but is a dismal groaner with a hideous split note in each chorus ('... king of glo-ho-re-ee now ...'). I'm sure there would have been more enthusiasm and a much better noise if they made a virtue of the range of hynms available instead of treating the hymn as a daily chore to endured by all concerned.

A postscript - I think the trigger for my slaves' rebellion was the Christmas concert at which we sang something called Calypso Carol, in which a bunch on Glaswegian pre-teens were instructed to start swaying from side to side during the chorus. Everyone in the congregation laughed, and though I'm sure it looked very cute from the audience's point of view I had never felt such a twat in my 10 years of born days. There was no way back for me and the choir once my artistic integrity had been piqued.

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Gatz | 13 July 2010 - 10:58pm

I was lucky that my late 60s primary school

left in 72 at age 10 iirc, used a fairly modern book and we had some quite unusual hymns at assembly interspersed with Luther, Wesley and Bach (and Paul Simon's "The side of a hill"

on one occasion I think. I think this memory has to be correct because I'd never have heard the song any other way).

One I was fond of was "when through the whirl of wheels"

http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/w/t/wttwhirl.htm

it's interesting to see this must be very early 20th century at the latest.

My mum used to recall that the caretaker had a different view, and once said to her:

All they ever do at this school is sing 'ims

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SpaceBoy | 14 July 2010 - 5:34am

Be Still My Soul

Is rather nice. Also:

Guide me now thou great Redeemer
Lo! He Comes with clouds descending
The Day thou gavest Lord is ended
He who would valiant be
Christians Awake
Love divine (to Blaenwern)

Am not a churchgoer at all but used to be a choirboy and love a good hymn.

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milkybarnick | 13 July 2010 - 10:50pm

The Day Thou Gavest

Having been a cathedral chorister and then very into my choral singing all through my teens (got a Cambridge choral scholarship but then fucked up my German A-level BASTARDS BASTARDS sorry, I'm alright now), one of the great pleasures of my teens (har har) was evening chapel and hymns like this. There's something lovely about holding down the bass part to quiet, velvety music in a dimly-lit chapel with dark windows and hundreds of people just listening. Makes me miss choral singing intensely.

I often think I'd like to join a choir again, but my real passion is church music and I just don't know if I could stand all the God stuff in those sorts of doses any more.

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Bob | 14 July 2010 - 8:56am

All Things Bright And Beautiful

Only because it had to be taken off the list at school when the "The purple-headed mountain" line started to cause too many attacks of the giggles.

We then started on another one which, unfortunately, contained the line "With all our souls on fire" which nearly caused a riot when some mumbled "Vindaloo!!"

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Lenny Law | 13 July 2010 - 11:02pm

Simon Russell Beale's

recent excellent series on BBC4 'Sacred Music' has led me to some marvellous stuff, but recently it's been Faure's Requiem which has dominated my listening, especially this:


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garyt | 13 July 2010 - 11:10pm

Another vote for the excellent Beale/16 series

have still to watch most of Series 2 apart from excellent finale, but liked 1st series so much I bought the DVD. His show on Bach and Luther is one of the best bits of capsule music TV I've ever seen.

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SpaceBoy | 14 July 2010 - 5:13am

So many to choose from

*edit* Be Thou My Saviour
How Great Thou Art ('Then sings my soul, my saviour God to thee...' - now give it the bifter lads...)
Hail Queen of Heaven (spot the Fenian)
Hail Glorious St Patrick (ditto)

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PaddyH | 14 July 2010 - 8:17am

As I'm Welsh ...

... it's got to be Bread of Heaven.

I wasn't there.

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dai | 13 July 2010 - 11:37pm

I Watch The Sunrise

Makes me physically respond every time I hear it; though I never know which response will happen- sometimes goosebumps, or hair on the back of my neck, even tears.

My family know that it has to be one my funeral songs.

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piggers | 14 July 2010 - 8:16am

Yep, it's a cracker

I Watch the Sunrise is one of my faves, too.

There was a similar one called Do not be Afraid (I think); it included the line "When the fire is burning all around you/ you will never be consumed by the flames.."

It's odd how, even though the religion has ebbed out of me in the years since I used to hear these songs regularly, I still think they're brilliant: there's a majesty to them that brings a bit of a tear to the eye.

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peterthecook | 14 July 2010 - 9:07am

Make Me A Channel Of Your Peace.

A beautiful hymn with a perfect vocal.


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Pinmonkey | 14 July 2010 - 9:13am
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