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Hugh Laurie sings Leadbelly
Posted by chabsy on 7 May 2011 - 12:03am.
I've nothing against Hugh Laurie, indeed I think him a decent chap. However, is he qualified to sing the blues, the white middle class Oxbridge twit that he is? See Graeme Norton tonight. Apparently his album has a record amount of pre-orders. You can namecheck the Stones/Zep and any other stoners from the 60's/70's that you like. I think a famous person in a suit singing songs of deprivation and despair from times gone by is patronising in the extreme. Twat. (I changed my mind)
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Hmm.
"I think a famous person in a suit singing songs of deprivation and despair from times gone by is patronising in the extreme."
Woke up this morning
Is that an actual quote? The only mention I can find of it is on this page, and I can't imagine Hooker using the phrase "patronising in the extreme".
Personally, if I had Hugh Laurie's money I'd get together a bunch of experienced musicians and make an Afrobeat album, even though I'm by no means African. I think the album would be OK overall, but my bits would be rubbish. I'd still make it, though.
I worked on the railroad for thirty years...
Then I met Hugh Laurie, and I decided to become a musician... I been starvin' ever since...
Thank god it's not just me
GLW and I caught the end of the show and almost wretched at how bad it was. Hugh's performance was wedding band level at best. This kind of sleb vanity project is something Fry and Laurie would have taken the piss out of 20 years ago.
Can't get too worked up about this
Mainly because I don't think anyone should have to 'qualify' to play a certain kind of music - you just have to like it. Delta Maid is no more 'qualified' than Laurie to play the blues (she said as much on the recent podcast) but no-one seems to mind.
As for the 'celeb' angle.... well, we'd all make an album if the opportunity was handed to us on a plate, wouldn't we? I think I'd rather Laurie made a record of his favourite kind of music and possibly send people (screaming, if necessary) to the originals than take the even easier crooner-type option.
Sorry
but everytime he sings his voice brings to mind this role.
Surely we've had a thread on actors making music?
Keanu Reeves, Bruce Willis, Scarlett Johanssen, even Russell Crowe - are these just not vanity projects really....just like musicians who cross over into acting they make get an opportunity because of who they are, but we find taking their music seriously as difficult as believing in Mariah Carey or Britney Spears' acting careers.
How much money do you have
How much money do you have to have before you are not allowed to sing the blues? Do any other genres have fame/financial qualification limits?
As with anything else in life
if you don't like it, don't listen to it. Channel you energies into something positive - we are all a long time dead.
Presumably the OP...
...is mounting a similarly vociferous campaign against black men from poor backgrounds being allowed to play Mozart or sing opera. Remind me to send a stiff letter to the Robeson estate, the pretentious bastard. Who did he think he was?
You miss the point.
He was rubbish. I have NO objection to anyone playing ANYTHING, but go down my local and you could find a better singer than that. I DO object to
if they MURDER Wolfgang. As it is, when I have heard the Soweto String Quartet they are pretty good:
I wasn't answering you.
The OP asked "is he qualified to sing the blues, the white middle class Oxbridge twit that he is?"
I'm sure he *was* shite, but that wasn't the point of the OP.
Oh dear
I stand corrected......anyway he was shite and that is the point I am going to stick with. IMHO, it is a bit like Ron Wood showing his art.
Reese Witherspoon seemed awestruck to be next to him
and it clicked with me how big a star he is. I sort of knew this in theory, but I still think of him as a middle-ranking comic actor, only known in Britain.
On the music, well he's no more from the delta than he is a doctor. It's a just another kind of performance. His fellow old Etonian Humphrey Lyttleton played music by black Americans, and wasn't criticised for it. I just found his performance mediocre, nothing to do with his background.
Yep.
It's a bit of a shame, because he really is a talented musician. I'd like to have seen him play piano. The guitar seemed a bit redundant. He's an OK singer. I like him - he's talented, funny, shockingly modest and very, very 'British' (whatever that means...)
I guess it's a bit like Woody Allen or Clint Eastwood as jazz musicians - their self-perception is that they are 'real' musicians and always have been, but the 'public' dismiss it, because they are so well known for other things.
Good on him.
Usually well disposed towards Mr Laurie
Due to his body of comedy work , and am (surprisingly) neutral vis a vis "Ol Etonian does Delta Blues" paradox.
Just thought he was awful on Graham Norton last night. Pub singer quality.
His voice is mediocre
but his piano playing, when I saw him on Jools' show was very good indeed.
His record is unlikely to grace my collection but there are plenty of worse singers and musicians who've released "Blues" records that are worse than this. There are even musicians that have become really successful making worse music than this, so "no big deal and so what" is my opinion on the matter.
I gather he is now the highest paid TV actor in the US
Can white middle class Oxbridge twit that he is sing the blue?
I´m not saying Laurie´s album is a masterpiece, but hasn´t your question been asked since Alexis Corner bought his first amp?
People are entitled to love and play whatever they want to love and play. Good thing is I´m entitled to not listen if I don´t want to.
It´s like saying Muddy Waters should never have left Mississippi and gone electric. I´m not saying that Hugh will do for the blues what Muddy did, but people are entitled to do what they want.
No one will get injured (which is what happened when Celine Dion wailed I Drove All Night to its slow and painful death).
I´m off to play some Mississippi John Hurt on my twelve string now.
It's here if anyone wants to delve further...
http://open.spotify.com/user/doublevisionary/playlist/0ZglCHsHTCs2gVBruZ...
I'm giving it a try. I wasn't overwhelmed by his GN performance either; I'm just a little bit intrigued.
EDIT:
I have put together an alternative Spotify playlist here. Please add versions of the songs that you know / prefer, if you wish.
http://open.spotify.com/user/doublevisionary/playlist/6K3cBlYLEbLXGyyutu...
If you're offended by 2nd-rate entertainment...
...don't watch Graham Norton, would be my advice.
Being white, middle-class and Oxbridge doesn't automatically make you a twit, and Laurie obviously isn't, although he gives good twit when required.
This old Can Blue Men Sing the Whites argument is in danger of turning into another one: can white, middle-class etc sing the blues, or do they have to be working class? I don't see a lot of difference between Laurie's efforts and, say, Micky Jupp's, which to my ears sound pretty similar.
I wish I could play the piano as well as HL, though.
I've just bought the album
and it's very good. Granted his voice is the weak link but the playing throughout is superb. Ditto the arrangements and production. The opener, a light-and-shade version of St James Infirmary, puts me in mind of Dr John's Going Back To New Orleans album (£4.93 on Amazon).
Also he writes very good liner notes in which he addresses his 'credentials' to play the blues. He expected to be knocked for making this record and deals with the issue in a very charming manner. He clearly knows and loves New Orleans piano blues and I for one recommend the album heartily.
Incidently, I sing the blues too. And I come from Pinner.
I guess that's why they call it the blues
Are you Elton John?
The shortcomings of his voice is made more evident
By Dr John joining in, but apart from that it is a surprisingly good album.
No
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I'm really enjoying the record.
There's a doc about Laurie, and the making of the record on ITV tonight, if anyone's interested:
http://www.radiotimes.com/ListingsServlet?event=20&channelId=26&programm...
ITV show
That was awful.
This is just a vanity project, selling on his status as one of the most famous actors on American TV.
His piano playing is just above average (in New Orleans that puts him about the 80th best player in the city). His guitar is very average. It's his singing voice that I can't stand. It's not that he's a bad singer, it's his vowels and the general sound that he makes. It's just not nice to my ears.
He obviously loves NOLA music, and good on him for doing something to bring it to the masses. But he adds nothing to the pot at all.
I hope Irma and Toussaint got a good pay cheque out of it at least.
Oh - the pedant says that the version of Go To The Maris Gras that he announced as being recorded in 1959 wasn't the 1959 version, but the Atlantic version from circa 1953.
I enjoyed it.
I thought he was funny and charming, the gig at the end with Toussaint, Thomas and Jones was great, and those horns were something special. It was good to see such great players on a mainstream TV channel, getting a platform for what they do.
Mind you my brain had nearly melted after a weekend of work, so I guess I was ready to switch off and enjoy something sweet and undemanding.
It's on ITV's online player thingy, if anyone cares.
http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=239392&module=whatson&title=-...
Really?
Wow. I though he did the self deprecation bit just fine but that he came across as a fud.
He obviously realised that he was living a dream and fair play to him for that.
As always,
what's depressing about this is that people need some sleb's interest to be interested themselves. These consumers weren't interested in NO blues before, and the album doubtless won't make them buy Professor Longhair albums. They'll define blues by a soap opera actors interpretation. If Laurie loves the blues as he claims, he shouldn't have done this.
You´re right when it comes to people buying it
Just because they think that House guy is totally awesome probably won´t make them end up buying Professor Longhair albums.
But: "If Laurie loves the blues as he claims, he shouldn't have done this."
I don´t agree here. If Dylan loved Guthrie he shouldn´t have done his first albums? If Springsteen loved Spector/Orbinson he shouldn´t have done Born To Run? If The Rolling Stones loved the blues they shouldn´t have done what they did? Led Zeppelin? John Fogerty/CCR?
The Beatles shouldn´t have started doing what they started doing if they really loved Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly and The Everly Brothers?
If we think about music like that, all we would be allowed to listen to is Buddy Bolden, Mamie Smith´s Crazy Blues and Richard Thompson.
Bolden was probably just a show off, anyway.
A Fry in the ointment
Well I have just watched the ITV prog and thought it okay. An hours entertainment and for those people who knew little or nothing about 'the Blues' it was educational too.
Buddy Bolden started what he was doing because he loved
Blind Lemon Pie (apparently)
"He´s lying!"
I´m waiting for a doc on his wife.
Maybe it's partly the whiff of
purism, and elitism that comes from some aficionados that puts people off jazz and blues in the first place. Hard to get in, if you don't know the secret nod.
I'm no dunce when it comes to music, but listening to the HL record and watching the doc has reignited a passing interest, and will make me purchase some new / old and different stuff. For example, I've heard of Toussaint, but had no idea he was such a dude - I saw that he deserved a great deal more of my attention.
If Hugh Laurie loves the blues, he'd be a fool not to play it every waking hour he still has left.
Just watched it now
I thought he was really good. Am I missing something?
Voice is not brilliant, but works just fine. And that is a seriously competent band he was playing with (Jools' piano helped a lot).
This might sound crazy
but I think he can do what he wants. Last time I looked music was open for anyone to get involved in. That's part of the beauty of it. By all accounts he's pretty good on the old joanna. Were people hoping he'd do an album of madrigals dressed as George the third?
Much of the same criticism was levelled at
Phil Collins' recent album of Motown covers and, I suspect, at any successful mainstream artist who decides to make an album of the music he loves for his own amusement.
Of course
he can do whatever he wants. Let there be no boundaries placed on music and the creation thereof.
But there isn't a single track I'd want to hear again.
The band was superb and I loved watching Toussaint rehearsing the horns. He was so exact but he got the groove he was looking for.