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How's everyone getting on with e-readers?

David Hepworth's picture

I'm interested to know because after all the talk of them being a huge part of the future of publishing in all its forms I'm conscious of the fact that the only things that really matter here are the new habits that people might or might not form.

I've just finished my first book on the Kindle. It's certainly convenient in all kinds of ways. You get it out while standing up on the Tube because it takes less handling than a paperback. You don't have to hold it open which means you can lay it on the side in the kitchen and read a page while waiting for the kettle to boil. I rather like the percentage indicator in the bottom left which tells you how far you've got into the book. It made me get on with it in a way I wouldn't have done with a paper book. The things I miss - the cover, the feel of the pages, the satisfying noise it makes when you put it down on the bedside table and lots more - are pretty obvious. There are some magazines available on the Kindle, generally the more wordy ones like the current affairs weeklies, and I've found it very useful as a way to keep up with those. It strikes me it's a reading machine and as such it will be popular with people who do a lot of same.

I've also got an iPad, which is a lovely toy. It sits at the end of the table in the dining room where it's frequently used for looking something up on the web, playing a You Tube clip or referring to a map. It's already becoming an integral part of the TV viewing experience. I find it impossible to watch Downton Abbey without the Twitter app open on it. I've used some of the apps provided by the newspaper and magazine publishers. I like The Economist, which just offers a fairly straight version of the printed magazine. I paid once for the Wired app but wouldn't do it again. A lot of the time I find attempts to animate pages a bit annoying, like going to one of those websites where you can't turn off the music. The more pictorial these things are, the less satisfactory I find them on a screen rather than in my hand.

I'd be interested to hear how other people's experience is shaping up.

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I really like my Kindle

I also really like the leather case with the built in light. Both brilliantly though out designs. I do most of my reading at the start or the end of the day so the light is an integral part of why the Kindle is more practical for me.

I can lay in bed on one side and because the reading page is always in front of me, this is, somehow, more comfortable than with a real book.

I like the instant nature of getting a book as well. I'm in th emood to read something and it's there. It means I get into books much quicker.

I don't really use it for anything other than novels. I have a few RSS feeds emailed to my Kindle, but to be honest, I don't read them very often.

I also read on my ipod touch with the Kindle app sometimes. It's great how they synchronise.

Things I miss - finding a page is a bit of a chore. Page numbers as well. But that's about it.

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Leedsboy | 23 November 2010 - 3:11pm

I Really Like My iPhone

for reading the classics. But trouble locating a page on the Kindle? Doesn't it have a bookmarking facility?

Either way, with the kindle app who needs a kindle player.

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itfc1959 | 23 November 2010 - 3:31pm

Kindle

My mum's 76 - Gadget Gran. She loves her Kindle for all the reasons you state, plus the fact that she doesn't have to pack half a dozen heavy books whenever she decides to wimp out of the British weather and spent a few weeks in the sun. She's reading books she wouldn't normally consider - I was a little concerned to hear how much she was enjoying the violent bits in Martina Cole's dodgybusters, and she's even considering War and Peace. At her age I'm wondering about the wisdom of such an undertaking...
But I want one now.
And an iPad.

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Jj | 23 November 2010 - 3:12pm

was thinking of one for my avid reader of a Dad

mainly as his eyes aren't great and you increase the text size and also he likes big books and they get heavy to hold and read. Mine only concern is the cost of books as he uses the library alot and sheliing out £15 quid for newish titles seems steep plus £109 quid for the thing in the first place.

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Chris G | 23 November 2010 - 4:22pm

eBook libraries

Libraries here in Ireland have ebook lending, I'd assume it's the same in the UK. You download the file from the libraries website and it deletes automatically after a set time.

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Mark Bagnall | 24 November 2010 - 1:24am

eBook libraries - do they work with the Kindle?

I've not investigated this, though I do have a Kindle, but one of the (few) criticisms I've read of the Kindle is that it does not support the eBook format used by libraries.

Do you know if Irish library eBooks can be read on a Kindle, or do they require a different eBook reader?

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epigone | 24 November 2010 - 5:40am

Kindle App

on my smartphone...it's become my default for reading on my lengthy commute. All the things you say above are the things I like, and while you'd think something the size of a phone wouldn't work for reading, my phone has a decent sized screen which is just the right size. I don't think about page length of a book anymore, which somehow makes reading go more quickly.

I'm mostly surprised by how quickly it's taken me to get over my love of a lump of paper, although I'm tempted to convert all my ebooks to pdf and print them out just so I have a hard copy of those I may want to read again. The fact that new books I own are purely digital makes me nervous.

What I really don't miss is that moment at the start of a long journey home when you realise you've finished the book and you haven't another to read. Or finishing a book at the start of the day and having to carry it around with you. I've a drawer at work full of books I finished on the way into the office that I've yet to take home, just so I could avoid carrying them around all day!

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SimonL | 23 November 2010 - 3:12pm

One Book In

I was against this for a long time but I've just read my first ebook, Michael Connolly's Reversal, on a combination of the wife's Sony reader and, when my daughter's let me, an ipad.

If I have a choice, it's the ipad I'll go for, more for the display then anything else but the Sony Reader is very light and easy to use, on the bus for example. I'd agree with all the points above and add that it just feels strange after a lifetime of handling books but, like my first introduction to digital music and ipods, this will pass and eventually, just like with the music, I'll most likely end up wondering how I lived without this before.

I'm not sure if it counts but I have been reading the daily papers on my laptop/desktop for the last few years and have now moved to the ipod, I prefer this method of news ingestion if you will (not reading the Irish news of course, country going down the toilet, ho-ho) as the use of hyperlinks, embedded content, etc, adds to the experience and I can see the day when all magazine/newspaper content is delivered in this way.

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Pat Carty | 23 November 2010 - 3:16pm

Kindle

My GLW has an early Christmas Kindle - both her and my daughter (8) have taken to it with a vengence. It is now the device for both of them for bed time stories. My daughter was previously not fond of reading and finds the Kindle easier (her twin brother is happy with paper books). I think that paper books will soon be obsolete in my house.

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paulwright | 23 November 2010 - 3:16pm

Mine arrives tomorrow

My Kindle arrives tomorrow, so this conversation couldn't happen at a better time. I'm particularly looking forward to taking it on holiday (it'll be far more sensible than the large newly released hardbacks I normally take).

However can anyone advise re decent blogs for ebooks? Especially music related ebooks, and free ebooks? I'm having difficulty sorting the wheat from the chaff at the minute and would like quality recommendations for what to download.

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georgethe23rd | 23 November 2010 - 3:21pm

iPad

I really like my iPad, although I marginally prefer the reading experience in iBooks to the Kindle app. That said, there's much more choice on Kindle, and the books are mostly cheaper. So in practice, I read most things in the Kindle app.

I do really like it, but what would seal the love-in deal for me would be apps for the papers and magazines that I love. If I could have Word, Empire, the Telegraph and the Indy all coming straight into my iPad on demand, I'd be so happy I'd actually run out of words.

Sorry, that's ridiculous. I've never run out of words in my life. But I would be happy.

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Bob | 23 November 2010 - 3:33pm

Press reader

Afraid I can't do anything about Word or Empire, but The Independent & The Telegraph are available through the Press Reader app. Very few bells and whistles but it works. Free 14 issue trial to try it out, then it's €28 per month, which let's you download as many issues as you like from their 100s of newspapers from around the world.

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Mark Bagnall | 24 November 2010 - 1:37am

percentage indicator?

come on Dave! I reluctantly accept the argument for the e-book but I am able to gauge the percentage of the book I am reading by comparing the bulk of pages to the left and right of the point I've got to.

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Fee Underhill | 23 November 2010 - 3:33pm

Quite.

But presumably the percentage indicator does the same job only on something that has the same bulk to the left and to the right all of the time?

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skirky | 23 November 2010 - 4:23pm

More than a Kindle

When I bought my eReader last Summer I looked around and didn't fancy either the looks of the Kindle or the fact its tied to Amazon. I got a Sony eReader. That's my first bugbear about the debate so far in the Word its all been about the Kindle or books.

I still read books at home, if there is something by an author I love, or I think I'm going to keep it, I still get a hardback version. I use the eReader for when I'm travelling or working away from home and I've loved it. I can travel and read without yanking my shoulder out from the weight of my carry-on bag stuffed with books, or worry about exceding my luggage allowance. I find it easy to read and its good not having to physically move the page to get to the next one.

The main problem for me now is that the two partner sellers for Sony, Waterstones and WH Smith, have stopped selling me eBooks in France. I can still buy physical books from them which they put in the post but they no longer sell eBooks. Naturally all the native French eBook sellers have a heavy list of French books but nothing of interest in English. No reason why they should.

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The Flashing Blade | 23 November 2010 - 3:34pm

oh dear

- anyone else read this and think 'betamax'?

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badartdog | 23 November 2010 - 6:28pm

Depends

My memory is that it was Sony Betamax vs the rest and VHS was it not?

Now seems to be Amazon's Kindle & their system + selling books via their website vs the rest who have a more open source system that can be read across a variety of manufacturers platforms. The same?

I wondered why the predeliction here was for the Kindle tied to one supplier. I had thought the Massive would be more supportive of others than the large retailer trying to tie everyone into using their system and open to nothing else. But then I thought about reading about the almost monoploy of iPhones here and realised those who've sold themselves to Apple will be open to doing the same to Amazon.

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The Flashing Blade | 25 November 2010 - 6:09pm

It's simple really

Amazon have loads of books, they are consistently cheaper than the other retailers for ebooks and the Kindle is a hell of a product for £109. Most ebooks also have DRM protection so it's not that your tying yourself to Amazon over a free choice - there is a degree of restriction with all of them.

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Leedsboy | 25 November 2010 - 9:38pm

Ssshh... Don't Tell Anyone...

Don't tell anyone, but you don't have to get all your Kindle ebooks from Amazon.
For starters there are loads of free ebooks at The Gutenberg Project (Google it) in many formats including those for the Kindle.
Also there's a spiffy free ebook management program called Calibre (Google that too) which will convert just about any non-compatible formats to Kindle-readable for you and load them onto your Kindle as required. It also has a news feed handler which gets you various magazines and newspapers in ebook form. I get the free edition of The London Review Of Books from that. I was getting a free version of The Guardian for a while but found I didn't really have the time or inclination to read it, so I deleted and unsubscribed.

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Mike_H | 25 November 2010 - 9:38pm

Damn you Mr Hepworth,

you are doing a good job of selling me a Kindle ! I don't have one but was in John Lewis the other day and they sell them (apparently they have done an exclusive deal with Amazon) so I had a little play with it and my view is that it is too light and skimpy for me and would find it awkward to read a pad. For me, it just seems strange and I have to confess, would be too self conscious using it on tube or in public (I don't see much use on the tube or buses in London). Of course I like the idea that you could be reading it at a kitchen table or pub (as you would a newspaper) and whilst travelling but I still think I would have a problem using it to read a book because it doesn't compare favourably to the heft of books which I like. I do also wonder why they didn't have a fold open Kindle so you have two screens and therefore read more like a book but perhaps I'm missing the whole point. I can see the attraction with newspapers but not with books, for now. I can see many advantages but apologies massive, it's still books for me. If anyone brings one with them on Friday though, can I play with it ?

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Francis Barry-Walsh | 23 November 2010 - 3:45pm

If you stick the leather cover on it

It feels correct in terms of heft. I will endeavour to remember to bring mine on Friday so you can have a play.

*makes note to download lots of impressive books rather than the Lee Child ones I actually love*

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Leedsboy | 23 November 2010 - 3:49pm

Very good,

thanks. I think Promised Land - the reinvention of Leeds United - is available as Kindle download.

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Francis Barry-Walsh | 23 November 2010 - 4:04pm

Lee Child

Nowt wrong with Lee Child, I'm rereading as ebooks in order at the moment. Beatiful examples of how to drive a book forward efficiently and with no excess, just plot and good (if a little cliched)characters.

Fun reading as well.

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SimonL | 23 November 2010 - 4:41pm

Agreed

But if I were trying to impress someone with my literary cojones, I'd pick something else as an opening gambit.

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Leedsboy | 23 November 2010 - 5:03pm

Calibre

All the Kindle lovers above have said it better than I ever could. All I'll add is that the Calibre download is fantastic. Think of it as iTunes for the Kindle. It controls what is and isn't on your Kindle, you can convert EPUB and PDF files into Kindle-friendly MOBI files. Plus you can download cool periodicals like The Guardian, The New Yorker, Time and Rolling Stone. Gratis.

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Art Vandelay | 23 November 2010 - 3:59pm

2nded

Love it. Easy to use too.

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SimonL | 23 November 2010 - 4:42pm

Newspapers...

As someone living up in the far northern part of Europe, British (or other international) newspapers are only available when they are at least one day old.

The kindle will have them ready for me when I wake up. And even if there are no pictures, it is different from reading a web page.

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Kjell | 23 November 2010 - 4:00pm

My two penn'orth

Took the Kindle away on holiday and used it for the full fortnight - at least six hours a day, probably more. Loved it to death for the quality of the text, the ease of reading, the weight and the ability to use it one-handed. And the battery life.

Since coming back, I've used it less as I've been clearing the backlog of 'real' books that has built up by the bedside. However when I've come across a new book I want to read, my first instinct has been to download it and store it on the Kindle rather than to wait for the opportunity to get the paper version.

so - slowly - it looks like I'm transitioning away from paper to e-ink.

Exceptions - I've tried magazines/newspapers on the Kindle - both from Amazon and free feeds from Calibre - and I've not really got on with them. They do seem to lose something when they become a stream of articles devoid (for the most part) of pictures and, even, adverts.

I've recently invested in a leather cover and I agree with Lee - it does improve the 'heft' of the thing considerably.

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Paul Waring | 23 November 2010 - 4:02pm

A couple of points

I'm not doing my best to sell anyone anything. I'm interested in this because it's clearly changing the way people read books, which is interesting to me, and it may change the way people read magazines, whih is considerably more than interesting to me. And let me say that I think there's a big difference between the way people anticipate feeling about magazines delivered this way before they've tried them and the way they feel afterwards. I'm really interested in how people feel about all these things after a couple of months.

Re: the percentage meter. It's a lot more accurate than looking at the number of pages.

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David Hepworth | 23 November 2010 - 4:04pm

Novels, Biographys etc

After 3 months in, its clear that reading books on Kindle that go from end to end is a fantastic experience. If its the sort of book that needs flicking backwards and forwards (such as a reference book) it will never replace a printed copy.
Magazines and image heavy publications don't do it for me at all.

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Martin Simmonds | 23 November 2010 - 9:25pm

Kindle and Newspapers/Mags

I can't see myself reading picture-heavy magazines on the Kindle, with it's black & white screen. A very unsatisfying experience, I would think.

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Mike_H | 25 November 2010 - 9:47pm

percentage indicator?

yes, but are you really that bothered about how far you've got with a book in terms of precise percentage?

I only that as I near the end of a book I love I want to slow down and savour it, and I can gauge that by how many pages are left... okay I see that you wouldn't have the pages in hand to tell that on an e-book but even so...!

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Fee Underhill | 23 November 2010 - 4:11pm

I think the big shift will happen in about five years' time

When we'll have passive colour displays that you can roll up and stick in your pocket.

I expect the iPad and Kindle form factors will not be long-lived.

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Brookster | 23 November 2010 - 4:11pm

For the Blind

My dear dad who is in his 80's and only has 5% sight was given details of the Kindle. They are advertised as doing text to voice. This would appear ideal but I was advised the voice was similar to Dr Steven Hawking. I did get the chance to try one and the voice is indeed not one that would send a baby to sleep. Far too metalic and computer generated. I assume if you download audio books (if you can) they remain in the actors voice.Any body know any more?

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N2Peach | 23 November 2010 - 4:13pm

Audiobooks

Not tried this personally, but the Kindle can hold and play mp3s in the same way as any generic mp3 player on the market - so in that case, any audiobooks downloaded in that format would play (and sound) as they would on an iPod, for example.

Now as I say, I've not tried this personally...

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Paul Waring | 23 November 2010 - 8:23pm

I tried audio on the kindle

but the interface is fiddly. If you are looking for audio books, use an MP3 player.

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Phatnobody | 23 November 2010 - 5:19pm

Agree 100%

I'm a big Kindle fan but the audiobook function is very tiresome to use. Better to find a reasonably cheap source (eMusic is pretty good) and use an MP3 player.

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Prunesquallor | 26 November 2010 - 10:29pm

In the post

Based on discussion here I have ordered a Kindle for Mrs. T for Christmas. I have to do something complicated to do with transferring the ownership of the account to her once I receive it. Anyone done this? Also I want to load it up with a few books before Christmas Day. Will this transferring the account business complictate this? ie can I receive it, stick some books on it, hand it over, and transfer the account later?

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Twangothan | 23 November 2010 - 4:38pm

No problemo.

I think you'll be fine to do that. You can change what Amazon account your Kindle is registered to very easily on it's Settings screen.

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Art Vandelay | 23 November 2010 - 4:42pm

Don't think so

Because of Kindle's DRM books downloaded on your account won't be valid on your wife's, so when you re-register the Kindle to her 'your' purchased books will be removed from the device. (They'll still be available on your account as everything is stored in the cloud.) Amazon is supposed to be developing a way to buy Kindle books as gifts but I don't think it's live yet.

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Dogbyte | 23 November 2010 - 6:04pm

It's not too hard to get by though

If you both buy books under the same Amazon account and register the kindles to that account, you can both read the same book at the same even if you have only bought one copy. I believe that to be the case at least (we only have 1 kindle in our house).

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Leedsboy | 23 November 2010 - 6:14pm

Bollards

This is exactly what I was worried about. So based on Leeds's advice I am better off leaving it registered to me and buying books for her on my account as and when she wants something.

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Twangothan | 23 November 2010 - 6:23pm

At the moment

yes. In our house, I do all the internet shopping under instruction so it would work ok.

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Leedsboy | 23 November 2010 - 9:01pm

I think you'll have to

I think you'll have to transfer the account first, otherwise the books will no longer "belong" to that Kindle and will be removed, although still available to you as the Amazon account holder. Of course it's possible I have this completely wrong, so it's probably best to wait till it arrives to find out.

I do know that it's simple to transfer the account when the Kindle arrives. Full clear instructions are given during the device's setup.

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Mike_H | 25 November 2010 - 9:56pm

You're right

When I bought it I got an email saying I can transfer it to Mrs T. But If I buy any books they'll not be available to her. I emailed Amazon about it and they confirmed it, but suggested I buy her a gift certificate, which is not the idea at all. So I will hack into her Amazon account on Christmas even and buy the books I want from her account so the Kindle is in her name and has books on it. It shouldn't be this difficult though. Surely if they got as far as recognising that someone might buy one as a present for someone, they migh want to put books on it too. Oh well, it's not a biggie, but I'm glad I worked it out now rather than at the last minute!

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Twangothan | 26 November 2010 - 10:28am

Slightly off topic,

but I think this is worth sharing as it's pretty impressive.
In case you're unaware, last night Apple released iOS 4.2 for iPod, iPhone & iPad and amongst the improvements is this facility, 'Airplay' - all is explained in the video.

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Georgedivided | 23 November 2010 - 4:52pm

Although what they don't mention

Is that Apple TV doesn't play HD video

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Brookster | 23 November 2010 - 5:01pm

As it's Panto season . .

Oh yes it does. 720 p. Which is HD (I shoot HD for TV, and 720 is good enough for many broadcasters).

Video formats
H.264 video up to 720p, 30 frames per second, Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats

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Nigell | 23 November 2010 - 6:20pm

Most people's idea of HD

is 1080px.

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Brookster | 23 November 2010 - 6:26pm

Perhaps so, but...

...there does appear to be room - and good reason - for both. This from HDTVfaq.org:

HDTV Formats

The two main HDTV broadcast formats; 720p and 1080i exist to cater for needs of different programme material.

Interlacing can cause visible flickering or jagged images when displaying motion, resulting in a reduction in perceived vertical resolution as well as image quality. For fast moving content such as sport, a progressively scanned image is better, so it is likely most sports content will be broadcast in 720p, which provides 50/60 frames a second (Hz) of 1280x720 pixel resolution.

Less fast-moving content can be safely interlaced, and the bandwidth saving this produces can be used to deliver a higher resolution 1080 line image in the case of 1080i, making it suitable for other types of programming. The 1080i format delivers 50/60 higher resolution (1920x1080px) fields which combine to produce half the frame rate at 25 or 30 frames per second.

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Gavin Adam | 25 November 2010 - 12:27pm

Other ebook readers are available...

Since I work for a computer magazine I've seen and handled lots of different ebook readers.

The Kindle is good, it has one of the fastest page turn rates and among the best screen contrast. It's not the only game in town though. Others are better in terms of the way they feel in use - the iRiver Story is a class act and is better balanced, but it's a lot pricier.

The other slight drawback of the Kindle is that it won't read open source ePub files so you're tied into Amazon's bookstore. I doubt if Amazon is going to disappear any time soon but some people may be uncomfortable with the closed format.

The big drawback with all of them at the moment is price. Even at £109 the Kindle feels a bit too costly. Until e-readers are consistently below the £100 barrier I can't see them catching on in a big way.

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Dogbyte | 23 November 2010 - 4:52pm

A question

Can you convert ePub files to Amazon's proprietary format?

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Brookster | 23 November 2010 - 4:57pm

You can use something like

You can use something like Calibre to convert to the Mobi format which the Kindle can read. But it's a hassle you shouldn't have to endure.

The ebook industry really needs to adopt a standard format as with MP3s.

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Dogbyte | 23 November 2010 - 5:07pm

mp3 is a standard format

But, then again, the iTunes Store doesn't sell mp3s.

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Brookster | 25 November 2010 - 11:13am

True...

...but it's not a comparable situation, since iTunes happily plays MP3s, as do all iPods and iPhones. I don't think there's much of a problem with Kindles etc using proprietary formats for their own stuff if they also read all the other ones. But they don't.

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Bob | 25 November 2010 - 11:19am

But on the other hand

Not all digital players can play AAC files.

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Brookster | 25 November 2010 - 11:31am

Oh yes.

Calibre is a free app that you download to your computer, and can do this in seconds.

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Art Vandelay | 23 November 2010 - 5:08pm

How about an item for a future Word?

featuring a road test of the different types of readers?

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The Flashing Blade | 23 November 2010 - 4:53pm

Kindle vs iPad

I had the iPad before the kindle. I now own both.

I argued against the iPad as a filler for a non-existent gap in my gadget range between my Macbook and my iPhone.

I got one anyway.

After a few weeks with it I noticed a big change in my reading habits. Where before I would spend the day short-form reading from RSS feeds and the online trade publications and then sit down in the evening with a good book, I found I stopped with the long-form reading altogether and used the iPad in the evening to continue reading short articles.

I tried the ebook experience on the iPad and found it too tiring on my eyes, plus the form factor of the iPad doesn't lend itself to book replacement.

Anyway, I bought a Kindle just to see if I liked it better for book reading and I do.

The final verdict -

In 5th Place. The iPad.
It has a role to play as a mobile media centre - iPlayer, video, web browsing, bit of email, cool remote control for my iTunes collection. But a toy. I do not need it. I wouldn't carry it out of the house - I have an iPhone for that.

In 4rd place. Physical books
They seem strangely unwieldy now and I find them harder to handle than my Kindle

In 3rd place. iPhone
My go-to mobile computer for checking all sorts of stuff on the run.

In 2nd place. My beloved Macbook Pro
It does everything I need except work as a long-form reader

In 1st Place. You guessed it, the Kindle
Love. It. Can read for hours, never lose my place, it fits in my coat pocket when I go out. I have the case with the light. Brilliant if a bit of a rip off.
Seriously, if you love reading, try one out.

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Phatnobody | 23 November 2010 - 5:15pm

What did you do

with the rest of your lottery winnings ? :) Who can afford all this apple stuff ? How much are those TVs ?

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Sour Crout | 23 November 2010 - 6:11pm

Apple TV...

...is a hundred quid. It's not a TV - it's a wireless box that enables you to stream content from laptop/iPhone/ipad straight to your hi-fi and TV.

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Bob | 23 November 2010 - 7:20pm

thanks,Bob

I'm well behind the times when it comes to TV.Here in Spain you now have to buy some box as well as a TV if you want to watch anything. I saw a demonstration for HD Tv in Brighton in 1989 and that's about it for me.

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Sour Crout | 23 November 2010 - 10:20pm

Can't Justify Getting an iPad

Not in my current financial circumstances, and besides it would just be a toy really, because there's nothing I -need- one for. Except that I -do- like gadgets/toys...

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Mike_H | 25 November 2010 - 10:04pm

Regarding Wired…

…my experience is very different. I have (at the moment) no desire to read complete books on an e-reader, even one as good as the Kindle, I simply like the tactile aspect of paperbacks too much. However dipping into magazines is another matter and the adaptation of Wired for the iPad is, in my opinion, extremely well executed:

  • • the navigation concept is particularly well thought out
    • the design is easily the equal of the printed version i.e. very good
    • the image and video quality is excellent (admittedly the downloads are quite large)
    • and the ease and imagination with which the layouts change from portrait to landscape format is always a pleasure to watch.
  • Was your criticism of too much video and basically just "trying too hard" based on the first issue? If so I think it was certainly justified but the versions since then seem to have been toned down a bit. Or maybe I've just got used to it!
    Either way, I look forward to each new issue and would love to see The Word at some time in the future in a similarly attractive and browsable format.

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    David Weeks | 23 November 2010 - 5:15pm

    I'm reading a lot more

    That's the big difference.

    The ability to search back to look up a character you're losing track of is handy.

    Browsing through the vast emporium of free & legal books that is Gutenberg (or archive.org) is a pleasure. Downloading sample chapters from Amazon is also good.

    It is possible to while away an afternoon browsing books old and new and not actually spend any money at all. The Kindle therefore recreates something that I really enjoy about books. And that, for me, is the tipping point.

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    Lando Cakes | 23 November 2010 - 8:56pm

    It depends what sort of thing you're reading..

    But I'm glad my wife's iPad has a wipe-clean cover.

    Because I often use it in the kitchen to study a recipe as I cook.

    So there.

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    Lenny Law | 23 November 2010 - 11:45pm

    I still don't know anyone

    who either has one, or wants one. There's no real 'buzz' about it- and I work in the media where such toys are commonly reckoned to be indispensable. Of course I can understand the specialist 'geek' appeal of such gizmo's but, in real life, you can't beat a roomful of books can you? I like objects and having them. Stupid maybe. Outdated almost certainly but, as I look around any High Street or bus or plane, I somehow don't believe that I'm in the minority. As far as I can see ( and, hey, it may not be very far...my eyesight isn't what it used to be ) the demand and the hunger for these plasticky things just isn't there in any significant measure.

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    eddie g | 24 November 2010 - 12:10am

    I counted at least 10 in my train carriage this morning..

    ... they certainly seem to be taking off amongst commuters.

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    SimonL | 24 November 2010 - 11:03am

    We have a Sony e reader and kindle

    Whilst I like the Sony reader the ability to search the kindle store and download in seconds on the device has made it my 1st choice. I love books but would now definitely download to the kindle rather than buy a book. I agree that the case with reading light has also made a huge difference.

    My original decision was due to space becoming an issue and I even have six poetry books on the kindle when my original idea was to purchase those in paper form and download fiction.

    We Also have an I pad but this is used by all the family and even if I did wish to read on this I would not be able to if someone else is using.

    One thing I have not tested is using the readers in the sunshine , little fear of having to worry about that for a while.

    I also find that I am reading two books at the same time (I also like the percentage at the bottom of the screen)

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    vgom | 24 November 2010 - 8:33am

    Can I add

    that I saw a slip of a young thing reading an ipad one handed standing on the tube this morning. It looked bloody awkward and fear the poor thing will soon be suffering from arthritis if she carries on like that. I was kind of in awe of her but wanted to tell that a hardback book would have been a lot kinder on her joints, even a Kindle !

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    Francis Barry-Walsh | 24 November 2010 - 10:08am

    Yeah

    I mean, a beautifully designed bit of kit, but I was surprised at how heavy it was.

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    Brookster | 24 November 2010 - 11:53am

    Look at the alternatives to ipads and kindles

    I bought my wife an 'Eco Eclipse' e-reader, equivalent of a BeBook, the size of a paperback. I have a Dell Streak phone (5" screen) with Aldiko and Kindle as apps. We've been looking mainly at free books - Jane Austen, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Dumas, Turgenev and so on.

    The e-book reader isn't tied to any particular proprietary format, so we can get books from a range of sources, mostly in the e-pub format. The e-book is e-ink, so easier on the eyes to read than the Dell (and the iPad) and just as portable as a paperback, but it can hold 5000 books. And it's much cheaper.

    Yes, I like my books, but we got rid of most of our reference books and instead rely on the web. And books take up a lot of space, competing with CDs and DVDs.

    You don't have to have an ipad, kindle, kobo or other of these big brands.

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    wellhamsrus | 24 November 2010 - 11:49am

    Me and my Kindle

    I bought a Kindle mainly for my long flights from the UK to the Philippines and back. It has been a boon not to have to juggle several books, especially in an economy seat (though the feature I should have liked best, to silence - or at least block out - crying babies, is sadly absent from the current Kindle).

    On terra firma, I have also found it useful, not least for its experimental feature of a Web browser; I have the 3G model, and am pleased to say that it has provided me with internet access in the UK, the Philippines and the Netherlands. I appreciate this facility might be withdrawn at any time, or have a charging structure introduced, but it was a forty quid gamble I'm pleased I took.

    I have the case with the light, which seemed a worthwhile expense, and it has proved useful, so I'm glad I went for it (which seems the consensus on here, from what I have read); it seems to be the thing that impresses people the most when I demonstrate the Kindle to them. I just checked, and it is now a fiver less than I paid for it: that'll teach me to be an early adopter.

    My reading material is a range of classics and work-related material; I've recently discovered Charles Dickens, who really is rather good, and I'm glad to have everything of his on my Kindle, which still leaves acres to spare for not-so-good writers, prolific though he was.

    I've not explored the benefits of Calibre yet, but plan to do so when I make the time.

    Living abroad (and I imagine a fair few far-flung folk will agree with me), I feel it would great to have a Kindle-friendly version of the magazine available in a timely fashion, so I'll certainly add my vote for that (if somebody is counting). I appreciate there are lots of difficulties with this, not least piracy, but I am pretty sure I wouldn't mind seeing the pictures in black and white or not at all, as it's the text that matters, for me, anyhow.

    Oh, and the Kindle battery life is fantastic.

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    epigone | 24 November 2010 - 12:26pm

    Gadget Gran agrees

    re the battery life. I asked her yesterday how often she has to recharge, and she said: "I haven't yet."

    It's a month old and she uses it daily.

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    Jj | 25 November 2010 - 11:08am

    I'm still looking for a good reason to buy an e-reader

    I'm a voracious reader - I'm a member of three different public libraries, and I will typically visit every fortnight or so and take out about five to ten books, which I read during my daily commute and in the evenings. I will read anything, going through phases of reading biographies, history, novels, travel books ... Many of my choices are made on the spur of the moment while browsing, looking at book covers or spines, and just trying something on spec. Can you do that with an e-reader? I also love trawling though second hand book stores and charity shops for interesting stuff and bargains. Could I download the book I'm currently reading, "News from Tartary" (Peter Fleming, 1935, $5 from a second hand book shop) on a Kindle?
    I haven't been tempted to get an e-reader yet because I just don't see the point. I already have more than enough books to read and it hardly costs me anything. If there's a really good new novel out I will reserve it at the library. The only reason I could see myself getting an e-reader is for travel. For my regular trekking jaunts around Asia I usually buy four or five cheap paperbacks from the charity shops and then either throw them away, trade them or swap them when finished. It would be convenient to have a lot of book on an e-reader, I suppose.
    Am I missing something?

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    mutikonka | 24 November 2010 - 12:44pm

    Agreed

    I absolutely love reading and, although I'm slightly tempted by the Kindle, I am yet to be convinced.

    I regularly read hardback books on the train to and from work, plus in bed, and unlike some others I have no issue doing this. I like the feel of a book, and to be able to look at where my bookmark is to judge my progress (much better than being told I've read 13% of it, which seems pretty meaningless) plus to follow my usual rule of if I'm not into it within 100 pages it gets ditched, and the usual race to the finish once I've less than a hundred left to read.

    When I go on holiday for a fortnight I pack 9-12 books (paperbacks) and they fill about a quarter of my suitcase. I don't begrudge this weight at all. There are a few things a paperback does brilliantly well on holiday:
    * I can take it to the beach and not worry if it gets splashed, or half buried in the sand somehow, or suntan lotion or sweat drips onto it.
    * I can leave it on my sunbed when I go to the toilet or for a snack without worrying if it will still be there when I return.
    * I don't have to worry if it is charged, or if it has enough power left to last the day.
    * There's no danger of getting to the beach and finding my book doesn't work.
    * It can't overheat in the sun.
    * I can see someone nearby reading the same book and we can have a conversation about it.
    * When I've finished my book I can leave it at the hotel for another traveller to read. Failing that I can bring it home and keep it, or pass it to a friend or relative, or give it to charity.

    I love wandering into Waterstones or my local independent bookshop and browsing the "new releases" tables, and idly drifting along the shelves, looking at spines until I spot something that catches my eye. I make lots of impulse buys this way, which is more difficult to do on Amazon where you can't get an immediate feel for the book (yes you can read the synopsis and see the physical dimensions, but you can't always read the first few pages to judge the style, see the font used - which has sometimes put me off reading a book - or the type of paper, feel the weight of it etc. etc.)

    I'm also not persuaded by all those who squeal that you can carry the complete works of Shakespeare in your pocket, and cross-reference pages between them, and download classics for free from Project Gutenberg. Some of us don't wish to read Shakespeare, and have read all the classics we wish to read, thanks all the same. Anyway, when I'm reading something I personally tend to read A book, not SOME books at the same time.

    If Amazon offered a scheme where you could buy a physical copy of a book and get a free Kindle edition of the same (I like to keep my books if possible, you see) then I may be tempted. It may sound like a strange idea but look at many IT textbooks and you'll find they often offer a free ebook version either as a download or on a disk at the back, so it's certainly doable.

    As for the iPad... No. Just no. I don't like them, nor do I see the point of them, at all.

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    Nasalhair | 25 November 2010 - 3:01pm

    Oh yes,

    the pleasure of eye contact and a chat with like minded soul who is reading a book you have read, are reading or would like to read. Or, if you prefer, being all sniffy about the poor soul who is reading Jeffrey Archer sick of him.

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    Francis Barry-Walsh | 25 November 2010 - 3:16pm

    Samples

    You can actually download, for free, the first chapter of every book in the Amazon catalogue on the Kindle.

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    Art Vandelay | 25 November 2010 - 3:56pm

    Agreed

    Since Amazon keep a record of all your purchase history, they could easily offer a big discount on digital copies of books that you've previously bought in paper format. There are quite a few books I've bought in the past that I'd now like to have on the Kindle, but not to the extent that I'm prepared to pay full price for them again.

    About browsing: You actually get a lot more than a synopsis. You can download a good wodge of anything as a free sample before deciding to buy (or, as is often the case, not). How much varies, but it's a lot more than you'd have time to read in a bookshop before you'd get a sales person coming up to you, going "Ahem", and asking rather sternly if they can help you.

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    Archie Valparaiso | 25 November 2010 - 4:13pm

    Bit of a difference though

    Browsing in Waterstones...

    Wander round the tables, look along the shelves, something suddenly catches your eye. I've found numerous great authors this way I wouldn't have normally discovered (examples include Richard Russo, Glen Duncan, Dan Rhodes, Jonathan Coe...)

    Browsing online...

    Click on "books", scroll through the bestsellers, maybe click on a genre... It's just not the same, is it? I personally read all kinds of things - just finished an autobiography, currently reading a literary fiction novel, next will be a book on presentation skills, then a history book...) so I don't stick to a particular "type" of book. For me browsing online isn't as helpful and It'd be less likely to find something catches my eye online.

    Maybe it's just me, but for browsing for new stuff a bookshop wins hands down. If I'm looking for a specific book, or to find something by a particular author then yes, Amazon is great, but for casual "I want something to read and I'm not sure what" it would be most unlikely for me to stumble across something on the web.

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    Nasalhair | 26 November 2010 - 1:04pm

    Agree, but...

    The Waterstones method works fine for a purchase for me, but if I'm buying a present it is soooo easy in Amazon to find something you know they've read and liked and quickly see a load of recomendations from which to chose.

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    Twangothan | 26 November 2010 - 1:10pm

    Personally...

    ...I wouldn't dream of buying somebody a book unless they had specifically asked for it. If I look on Amazon at my own favourite book I see 17 pages of recommendations, but from that list there are just 12 books I can say I'd like to read, and I've read all of them. Books are a very personal thing in my opinion, and if someone bought me a book because they believed I might like it the chances are I most likely wouldn't - I think over the years of all the times people have passed books on to me with comments such as "you'll love this!" I invariably haven't. Probably just me though.

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    Nasalhair | 26 November 2010 - 4:06pm

    The modern function of bookshops

    Apparently in the US, according to those who research these things, people are using Barnes & Noble for the eminently pleasurable experience of browsing to find out what they would like to read and then buying that on their Kindle. The trajectory of the Barnes & Noble share price in the last couple of years bears this out.

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    Prunesquallor | 26 November 2010 - 10:04pm

    Regarding your first point

    If you've bought the book from them why can't they offer you the ebook for free? As I said, many IT textbooks offer it for free. I've got some with the ebook on a CD in the back, and others where you can download it from the author's website by registering the book online and a download link is sent to you.

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    Nasalhair | 26 November 2010 - 1:06pm
    tadredge | 25 November 2010 - 11:39am

    Lost the bloody thing

    in an airport yesterday. I feel bereft. The good thing is that I can redownload all the stuff I've bought from Amazon when I get a replacement courtesy of the Ministry of the Interior at Christmas. In the meantime, back to paper.

    My main complaint about the Kindle and eReaders in general is that my bookshelves will, in a few years, look rather sad and out-of-date, because I've stopped buying real books. And books do furnish a room, as Anthony Powell so wisely said. Kindles on the other hand most certainly do not furnish a room, no matter how funky their cover.

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    Prunesquallor | 26 November 2010 - 10:17pm

    Just got one a couple of weeks ago

    for my birthday (looks like one of the last that came to Australia-There is now a 2-3 month wait) and I love it. It has produced the same increase in my reading as the iPod did in my music listening many years ago.
    Some random comments building on what others have written:
    - The leather case + light is a critical part of my enjoyment and should be included with all Kindles. It makes it feel like a book, comfortable to hold and easy to read at night. I implore anyone getting a Kindle to get the case
    - The main reason for getting a Kindle as opposed to using and iPad is the screen. It truly is just like reading a book and does not fatigue the eyes at all. When I'm getting tired I just increase the text size. I know some people claim to feel no eye fatigue when reading from an iPad, but I certainly haven't found this to be the case.
    - There are many books available for free (millions in fact) and many converters to convert other formats to Kindle. I have about 30 books already on my Kindle. About 25 were free, a couple cost me 9 bucks and the rest 1-2 bucks
    - There is a great feature where you can email in a PDF (or other document) and Amazon convert it to Kindle format and send it back to your Kindle within a few minutes. While the Kindle does read PDFs directly, you have to scroll around the screen, so this feature is a godsend
    - You can download samples. I use a lot of my books for work, and this has been great for separating the wheat from the chaff

    Here are the things I think they could improve for future versions:
    - Colour (in the same quality as B&W) would obviously be great
    - Likewise, touchscreen would be brilliant. I'm sure it's just around the corner
    - It would be good if you could resize images/diagrams. They often come out very small and don't increase as you up the text size
    - The table-of-contents navigation is awkward. Most books default to page one rather than the TOC, and some books have no TOC at all. I mainly read non-fiction and the TOC is vital
    - If they included a dedicated, high quality MP3 player in the Kindle (with dedicated buttons) and upped the storage to 30-40 gigs it would be perfect. There is an MP3 player but it is 'experimental' and awkward to use
    - Some books have obviously had no thought at all go into their formatting for the e-reader. This is excusable with free ones converted by volunteers but not for paid ones

    Just as digital music allowed artists to bypass record labels, the same will happen with books, where self publishing will become as easy as writing a document in Word and converting it (obviously a double edged sword!). Check out the dubious quality of many books in the Kindle shop for confirmation!

    In essence, we are seeing the birth of a new publishing medium, and it will take a few years for capabilities and limitations to be recognised.

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