How To Listen To Music in the Download Age

We all know time is limited, how to listen to all the great music available before I die.

With the advent of playlists on Itunes it appears as though the album is dead since we can now compile our own playlists but and here is the rub how do you listen to all the great music an artist has done without missing some hidden gem.

I recently started trying to get into Frank Zappa partly by using The Rough Guide To Playlists partly by checking the top ten Zappa songs on the internet but I feel I have only scratched the surface and still I feel I will miss something.

The completist in me wants to hear everything Zappa has done, the realist knows he has done his fare share of dross this is the problem when approaching any artist with a huge catalogue take Neil Young,Elvis Costello or Bob Dylan.

I think it is up to the music press to tackle this dilemma head on which I don't think they have so over to you Word Magazine how about a series of The complete guides to for example Elvis Costello, REM,XTC,Divine Comedy,Bob Dylan,Neil Young, Bob Marley, Stevie Wonder Joni Mitchell Miles Davis

Which albums and tracks are essential,I know at the end of the day it is a subjective matter and a taste thing but I feel you have a duty to your loving public to at least try.

By the way if anyone has any playlists of artists they want to share please do

Playlist Example No 1

We all know that Andy Partridge is the one true genius in British music, a cross between Zappa/Lennon/McCartney/Ray Davies as if to prove the point he released Fuzzy Warbles Vols 1-8 below is my best of Fuzzy Warbles.

Dame Fortune
Born Out Of Your Mouth
Don't Let Us Bug Ya
That Wag
Everything
Goosey Goosey
I Don't Want To Be Here (Aids Benefit Version)
Young Marrieds
Obscene Procession
Ra Ra For Red Rocking Horse
Everything'll Be Alright
It's Snowing Angels
Ship Trapped In The Ice
My Train Is Coming
You Like Me?
Work
When We Get To England
Autumn Comes Around
This Is The End
Put It On Again
Tunes
Bumpercars
The Art Song (Something Good With Your Life)
Zonked Right Out On Life
All I Dream Of Is A Friend
Where Is Your Heart?
Young Cleopatra
I Defy You Gravity
Ice Jet Kiss
Don't You Ever Dare Call Me Chickenhead
My Land Is Burning
Laugh Track
Stinking Rich
I Can'T Tell What Truth Is Anymore
Candle Dance
Tiny Circus Of Life
In My Hand
Difficult Age
Shaking Skin House
Moonlit Drive
Prince Of Orange
End Of The Pier
Through Electric Gardens
Skate Dreams Wet Car
The Bland Leading The Bland
Sonic Boom
I'm Unbecome
Silverstar
I Gave My Suitcase Away
Candymine
Visit To The Doctor
Cherry In Your Tree
Shalloween
Was A Yes
Genie In A Bottle
Disque Bleu
I Don't Want To Be Here
Open A Can Of Human Beans

Fuzzyface | 26 November 2008 - 7:59am

With respect

isn't it precisely the avoidance of this sort of "list culture" that sets Word apart from its contemporaries in the magazine rack? This sort of excercise is far better suited... well, to precisely this sort of blog-forum-board - or indeed to the pub snug - as it is all about debate and discussion, not about a magazine laying down canonical lists.

Joe Muggs | 26 November 2008 - 8:44am

yeah -

and their lists are rubbish - Don MaClean's Starry Starry Night as the best tribute ever? Pah!

badartdog | 26 November 2008 - 8:55am

canonical lists ?

canonical lists/list culture well maybe we live in that sort of culture but on the other hand it would be a good starting point for those of us not familiar with an artists work and we haven't all got time to trawl through Neil Youngs 80s albums to find the best tracks from them.

Fuzzyface | 26 November 2008 - 9:05am

Who would have time .......

to trawl through the 50-odd Andy Partridge tracks you recommend ?
Not me.
And how would they get them ?

And who knows you haven't recommended a load of clunkers ?

Recommedations are obviously useful,but always subjective. Discovering music that you and only you like, is trial and error. Always will be. Always should be.

Top marks for your early morning keyboard work-out though !

Hot Cider | 26 November 2008 - 7:37pm

Don't you find

that after you've devoured the classic bits of an album, what often keeps you coming back are the songs that initially slipped under the radar, but which on repeated listening reveal themselves as delicate gems?

I certainly do.

I don't mean to imply that the good bits become bad (though one may become jaded) and sometimes the simple fact is that one doesn't engage with songs because they're not very good songs, but oftentimes there's some real quality that initially passes you by and which merits your attention.

Fraser M | 26 November 2008 - 9:09am

Greatest Hits

Yes I find that certain gems only reveal themselves after several plays I also find that with many artists their greatest hits are not necessarily their greatest tracks a bit like an iceburg there is usually much more beneath the surface.

What I am getting at is great artists may produce a bad album but there may still be a great track on it worth adding to your collection but why trawl through the rest of the album, the problem is of course what is great to one person isn't to another.

Fuzzyface | 26 November 2008 - 9:18am

Neil Young

"Mirrorball" (1995) poor overall, but download 'I'm The Ocean' which is just superb.

Steven C | 26 November 2008 - 1:16pm

Also the wonderful Fallen Angel

And don't forget that album is just as much Pearl Jam as it is Neil young.

Niks | 26 November 2008 - 1:47pm

The last 20 years

of Neil Young's career is ideally suited to the cherry picking of tracks. The album may not be dead, but his last 10 or so most recent albums most certainly are, apart from at least a couple of very much alive and kicking songs on each.

Madrid | 26 November 2008 - 2:03pm

I would disagree..

Sleeps With Angels is one of my favourite Neil Young albums, and I would highly rate Prairie Wind and and Chrome Dreams II.

kidpresentable | 29 November 2008 - 3:24pm

The 'album is dead' myth

This gets repeated so many times it is in danger of actually coming true.
Maybe there's some statistics from iTunes that prove me wrong but from where I'm standing the album is alive and well. Go into Fopp or HMV and they're lined up, look in magazines and half their pages are taken up with album reviews, half the bus shelters in the land seem to be advertising the new album release from some flavour of the month band. More albums seemed to be released each week now than ever before. When I download music I download albums, when I listen to music I listen to albums.
Yes some bands rely mainly on singles but wasn't it ever thus? And yes I sometimes make playlists but that's no different from the mixtapes I used to make to listen to on my walkman.
If they album really was dead bands would stop making them and just release tracks, but they don't do they.

Niks | 26 November 2008 - 9:13am

Album is dead Myth

I love the album format and concept albums, problem is that how many albums these days are worth listening to all the way through ? most albums have filler on them, maybe it's the length of cd format or maybe it's lack of talent for example on Oasis's new album there are about 4 or 5 tracks worth listening to, people will get sick of buying albums with filler when they don't have to, the album is the conventional format at the moment who's to say it will be in the future ?

Fuzzyface | 26 November 2008 - 9:31am

It's never changed....

It's very, very rare that you get an album that is worth listening to and consistently excellent all the way through. Recent examples would include Elbow, Kings of Leon and The Gaslight Anthem.

For every Born to Run, there's a Human Touch. For every Blood on the Tracks, there's a Nashville Skyline. For every Let it Bleed, there's a Goats Head Soup....you get the picture...

It's just that the way music is listened to now is via the most user friendly, malleable pieces of software that let's you extricate the wheat from the chaff. Nothing's changed, we've all become lazier demanding the instant fix that a individually tailored playlist delivers to the vein

John Waite | 26 November 2008 - 10:37am

Hey wait a minute...

I bloody love Goat's Head Soup. Without the constant tiresome comparison with the three albums that preceded it, it's got some cracking tunes (Angie, Doo Doo Doo, Winter, Coming Down Again), some excellent rockers (Dancing with Mr D, 100 Years Ago, Star Star) and the usual bluesy numbers (Silver Train, Hide your Love). What more do you want?

And while I'm ranting ...on the Nashville front, any album with Lay Lady Lay and I Threw it All Away plus Johnny Cash thrown in can't be half bad.

Charlie Gordon | 26 November 2008 - 10:57am

Well said that man

'Goat's Head Soup' is right up there with their best. I've never understood its low ctritical standing.

Now, 'It's Only Rock'n'Roll' on the other hand ....

Steven C | 26 November 2008 - 1:13pm

Hmm....

That version of North Country Girl *may* have worked had both Johnny and Bob decided to sing in tune and in accompanying the instruments. As neither did, it smacked of "will this do?"...Lay, Lady, Lay - good song but illustrative of the overall point - you'd take that one song (or a non Bobcat would) and stick it on a Dylan playlist with nothing else from the parent album. Same with Goats Head for the passing Stones fan. Angie, nothing else...With Let It Bleed, you'd take, well, all of it really...(maybe cutting out You Can't Always Get What You Want)

John Waite | 26 November 2008 - 11:16am

Girl from The North Country

I love it when Cash's wonky vocal comes in. It's "hesitant" attempts at harmony, it stumbles and staggers along, but surely that is part of its everlasting charm. Nashville Skyline exudes a feelgood "vibe" and sincerity and in its context as a Dylan recovery album it has always worked very well for me.

Bang Em In Bingham | 26 November 2008 - 2:07pm

Yes but...

I'd wager that if any group nowadays produced GHS they would be the critical darlings of the year even if by the Stones standards some of it is derivative of previous triumphs.

I must admit I have a soft spot for Nashville as it was the first Dylan album I ever heard (not the best starting point I agree) and I think he succeeded in the limited country & western orientated aims he had for the album.

Charlie Gordon | 26 November 2008 - 12:16pm

Opinionated recommendations a speciality ...

This is precisely what the Word Massive is here for surely. Simply ask the Massive to nominate one under-rated track from each of say five albums by a particular artist whose work you're keen to explore? Select the ten most commonly occurring nominations and off you go, remembering to report back in a week or so.

Now, moving on to the Middle East question .....

Steven C | 26 November 2008 - 1:25pm

Reminds me of Peter Cook's take on being perverse

... and how much effort it takes to keep up that reputation:

"In the 60s it was Beatles vs Stones: everyone preferred the Beatles so I said I preferred the Stones. I picked the Stones' worst number, the one even they couldn't abide, and say it was the best thing they'd ever done".

Just watch you don't get lots of recommendations for Maxwell's Silver Hammer ...

douglas_green | 26 November 2008 - 5:43pm

Peter Cook

Interesting you mention him since I was thinking of getting Godley and Cremes Consequences now there is an album ripe for reassessment or is it ?

Fuzzyface | 26 November 2008 - 5:48pm

Done and done

well, not really, but any excuse to post a link to my ramblings

simonperrins | 27 November 2008 - 1:23pm

Try Zappa's

"Watermelons In Easter Hay" from Joe's Garage (Acts 2 & 3). Definitive Zappa and probably the greatest guitar solo of all time.

Mark JF | 26 November 2008 - 1:55pm

Thanks for The Zappa tip

Finding great new music is surely the holy grail for music lovers I just got a great new book the Rough Guide to The Best Music You've Never Heard it is packed full of great new musical avenues to explore and I would recommend anyone to buy it for themselves as a christmas present.

I think the Word should employ a team of experts to be our guide to each significant artist.

Obviously some artists have a more extensive back catalogue than others but I would be interested especially if they employed for example a famous Dylanologist.

Fuzzyface | 26 November 2008 - 3:54pm

"a famous Dylanologist" ...?

I think that's probably Lucas Hare you're after there.

Steven C | 26 November 2008 - 4:36pm

I seem to remember

Q magazine did just such a thing in those long ago, near forgotten, days when I used to read the blessed thing. They would pick a band with a sizeable back catalogue (Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, some other bands) and split their albums into:

'Essential'(Sgt Peppers on a Beatles month),
'Recommended'(Masters of Reality on a Sabbath month),
'Tread Carefully'(Lets Dance on a Bowie month),
'Best Avoided'(A Bigger Bang on a Stones month) and
'Great Shower of Shite' (Queen albums)

or something of that manner. They also helped to recommend a good live album and/or greatest hits compilation. Not that I'm suggesting buying Q back issues, just saying that it has been done.

Gav Leonard | 26 November 2008 - 5:15pm

Q still does...

..such a thing.

Badgerous | 27 November 2008 - 11:08pm

Yeah I saw that

It was actually in The Word and there was a series of them but they didn't go as far as I wanted and name great tracks from duff Neil Young albums for example.

there are so many artists this can apply to, I noticed that Uncut have started to give stars to each track on certain reviews and in The Independent reviews it states,download this, and mentions about 3 or 4 tracks from each album reviewed.

Is this the way we are going where people will just download 3 or 4 recommended tracks from an album ? or will the album format survive ?

Fuzzyface | 26 November 2008 - 6:09pm

Ooooh Fuzzy....

...don't get us all started on 'star' ratings......

Paul Waring | 26 November 2008 - 6:59pm

Why do we do this to ourselves?

It's hard work being a proper music fan isn't it? I'm sure there are people that listen to music all day long but never even change the radio station.

I think an important point is to consider why we feel the need to seek out everything good. It's inevitable that what one person thinks is magnificent, you'll think is pants. I too went down the "I must get into Zappa" road a couple of years back and downloaded a "recommended" beginners set of tracks and failed to be moved.

I think one of the pleasures of music is to see artists live in small venues. As a result, I've concentrated my efforts this year in trying to listen to new up and coming artists so that I can catch them on the way up. This year I set myself a task to listen to at least one album a week by an artist that I'd never heard an album by before. As a result, I may have to listen to a lot of mush (step forward Fleet Foxes) and I don't necessarily hear the very best songs (which is subjective anyway) but I do get to hear excellent music played in intimate settings by artists that still care (step forward Ingrid Michaelson & Chatham Co Line).

JohnW | 27 November 2008 - 7:28am

Good point about seeing music live

I've definitely noticed this over the last few months: I'd been feeling a bit jaded about music in general, just sticking to what I'd heard a hundred times before. But seeing a band live makes you want to go back and re-listen: you pick things up you'd never noticed, you appreciate more subtle points. You realise it's actually human beings and not computers producing the stuff ...

douglas_green | 28 November 2008 - 5:51pm