How obscure can YOU go?
Having hung around here for a good while now, I would suggest that our collective tastes encompass, but also extend some distance beyond, the mainstream. Yes, we love Richard Thompson, Supertramp and Gilbert O'Sullivan, but we also enjoy fishing in some of the shallower pools of rock history.
Which set me to thinking - how obscure can we get? Is there one of us listening to something that no other Word blogger has ever heard before?
So I set this challenge. Name the most obscure item in your (physical) music collection. Not downloads - I'm talking physical product you have parted with hard cash for.
If no reader can respond saying - yes, I know that lot and I also enjoy their art - then you win.
My entry - a Norwich band from 1985. I give you...
'Gee Mr Tracy', and their seminal mini album 'Shoot the Sherbert, Herbert, Straight From the Fridge, Pops'
Home to such gems as:
The Day the Shoes Bit Back
You Make my House Shine
Gosh There, Pops Say! You're a Gasseroonie
I firmly believe that, outside of family and close friends, I am the only person in the world who parted with hard cash for this disc.
Is that the case? Do you know these people?
Or can you out-obscure me with your own favourites?
The gauntlet is thrown down.
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Shrink - Valid or Void.
Shrink - Valid or Void. Great song but sung by a fat bowie wannabe who painted his head silver. Have the 7 inch from 79ish.
Spacehopper - Silent Film. Just great. Have cd single - bought about 3 years ago.
Bloody Hell!
Shrink has a my space page! Not very obscure at all...and not sure if its any good really.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendI...
I got that
I played it once. But I have it.
Me Too
I have it as well! Why wasn`t it a big hit?
'Tableau of a Lithotomy' by Marin Marais
Not strictly 'music' as such, rather a musical description of a surgical operation. My late aunt owned this record... I think it may have belonged to her father, who was a doctor. 'Obscure' hardly does this justice...
Front cover:
Inner sleeve left:
Inner sleeve right:
Back cover:
now I'm intrigued
What on earth was on the back cover?
Patrick you win
You are the Obscurer's obscurer. I bet you stay up at night watching autopsy's on Channel 4.
Brilliant.
It's funny you should say that...
because it's probably the only really obscure record I own. I have no interest at all in owning records because of their 'scarcity value' or their underground credentials.
I'm certainly outdone by
I'm certainly outdone by that. Have you listened to it? Bet you can't dance to it.
You know what...
I haven't! I don't own a record player anymore. One day I'll take it round to someone's house who owns one and give it a listen.
I think
you going to have to rip it and post it.
If I knew how...
I surely would. What does 'rip' mean? Mr Luddite here doth not nose this newspeak...
its street for record onto
its street for record onto your computer
Back cover
It's
Emotional.
Modesty Blaise by The Direct Hits
Probably sold about half a copy. I still love it though.
http://www.littlehits.com/songoftheday/Modesty%20Blaise.mp3
er...
Mr. Picky here... half a copy and you enjoy it? All I want to know is did it sound better or worse when it was whole?
Mine was the
Robinson Soup EP. 1992.Came with 2 little stickers which are still in perfect condition.
I don't know anyone who parted cash for it.....maybe until now.
Nut, anyone?
A great favourite of mine is the one and only album by Nut, called Fantanicity. Gorgeous voice, some very good songs, and one minor classic, Giant. She's so obscure that even a fan website I found a few years ago knew next to nothing about her.
Last I heard she was recording under her real name, Cat Goscovitch, though I don't know if anything's actually appeared. And I went to see her play a gig in Islington a few years ago. She didn't turn up.
Nut
I have the album, and the one she did before under the name of Billy Rain (Salad Days, released on RCA).
Jack The Bear
Debut production job by one Owen Morris (later of Oasis knob-twiddling fame) which features Boo Hewerdine on a couple of tracks as well as a marvellous version of Pennies From Heaven. Bought and paid for.
snap
I have that one, too!
Blimey - and that was my banker!
Slugworth's 'Bigger Ba Baa' anyone? Oddness, fantastic guitar playing, obscure lyrical references, weird time signatures and shouting from the former Orphans of Babylon stalwart.
Not available on Amazon
It includes such stirring anthems as Mother Party Protecting Me, Song of the Anti-Japanese War, and the revolutionary classic The Leader Has Come To Our Outpost.
I picked it up in a stamp shop in Pyongyang.
And trickling down the chart, on the Pee label . . .
Clips! We want clips!
They're all over YouTube
This track is called 'Socialism is Good'
Wow
The things we could do with a multitrack of that.
I give you ..."People With Chairs Up Their Noses"
They sound as every bit as good as you'd think. I have them on a split single with a song by Hugo Race's early band "Plays With Marionettes." Hugo is a name some people may know as he was in The Bad Seeds at one stage.
Its a bit of a toss-up as to which side of that single is worse.
Jim White
Jim White from The Dirty Three was the drummer in that esteemed outfit.
I'll add Wasmo Nariz to the show & tell. I still have the LP somewhere but I doubt I'll be spending time looking for it. Early 80s American "new wave", I suppose. I recall the bloke sang in an annoying quavering falsetto. The cover featured a photo of our hero wearing two neckties (I'd like to think a "stylist" was employed for this sartorial innovation).
At The Discotheque...
...by The Wimps. This was released in 1979 and it's brilliant. Their one and only single I think.
Startled Insects
"Lifepulse".
Sax playing by Mr Will Gregory, amongst others. Mr Gregory, on being informed by a mutual friend that I owned this LP, commented, "So it was him.".
Selmer presents the True Voice Echo Chamber
A demo disc featuring Burt Weedon, and a cheesy American announcer "Burt will now play a few bars of boogie, with echo".
That's my best shot.
Well...
...I have various psych/prog rarities and oddities but they certainly aren't obscure compared to the stuff being mentioned here!!
I did once have a heavy/blues rock album by some guy called Creepy John Thomas which was worth around £75, and also a tribute to Deep Purple by a band called Funky Junction. This band were actually mainly members of Thin Lizzy under a pseudonym.
I have ...
...an album by a band called The Oasis called What is the Story Morning Glory which is now worth more than 50 pence. They were active in the Manchester area in the 1990s I believe. Very strange album indeed.
David Baerwald
I picked up the excellent Triage for £1 in an Oxford Street record shop many years ago after David Hepworth played him on his old GLR programme.
Not a name that stirs much excitement in the general population. I thought he might make a breakthrough when he got signed to Lost Highway and released Here Comes The New Folk Underground.
David Baerwald
Originally part of the duo David & David who released Welcome to the Boomtown in 1986 (& I've been a fan ever since). Also recommended are his 1990 Bedtime Stories and film soundtrack to Hurley Burley. Also played with Sheryl Crow. Info here: http://www.dbinfosource.com/splash.asp
What about...
Premiata Forneria Marconi, or PFM as they were more readily known? Recorded on ELP's Manticore label, I have the albums "The World Became The World" and "Cook", their live offering.
As for Gee Mr Tracy - I've got the "Lava Man" single. Hasn't aged well.
PFM
I think their Italian only albums are a bit more obscure, I only have Per Un Amigo of these myself.
I have...
...PFM's 'The World Became The World' and 'Photos Of Ghosts'.
As for Oasis, I'm really tired of seeing second hand copies of 'What's The Story Morning Glory' and 'Be Here Now'. It's as if a whole nation bought them then decided they didn't want/like them!
At last...
This is the forum to ask for help! - which German prog band produced an album called something like "Such is Life" with a Circus motif on the front cover? Came out in about 1974. My (first!) girlfriend bought it for me and I, ahem, lost it in the great Record Collection Reappraisal of 1977. This has been bugging me for YEARS.
You've stumped us all....
(sound of desert wind, tumbleweed bowling past)
I'm really worried now....
Maybe I imagined it...maybe I imagined her!
Oh well I've read that it's good to have an interest in your dotage. looks like my quest must continue
Year zero
I too had a year zero moment in '77. When I think of the trite I threw out and the value/obscurity of some of it now it makes me weep!
Vibrating Egg (try Googling THAT!)
"Come On In Here If You Want To" is a funny little LP I picked up yonks ago, with various REM members contributing to a shambolic din.
The bleakest album ever!
As a saturnine young anarcho-punk rocker, I bought the interminably glum album 'In Darkness, There is No Hope' by Anti-Sect. It's basically sped-up Black Sabbath with luyrics even a daily dose of Ritalin couln't cheer up. Y'know, all nuclear anxiety and smash-the-cistern (sic). Cost me about three quid as it was on one of the pay-no-more-than stylee Crasstarfarian labels. (Which I heartily applaud, but that's another topic for debate)
I suspect no one outside of a black-clad coterie of miserablists will ever have heard it. Naturally. I still sustain an immense fondness for it.
Even more obscuro was the Peter Paints His Fence EP by the Instant Autonoms. It was recorded in the tumbleweed-enshrouded village just outside Scunthorpe where I grew up and mooched incessenantly. It's a two-chord affair about Russian anarcho-type Peter Kropotkin and failed to graze the Fab Four Thousand, let alone 40. Can whoever half-inched my copy give it back please.
I have the Anti-Sect LP,
I have the Anti-Sect LP, along with most of the Crass-related material from the time. I have, however, never heard the Instant Autonoms, so kudos and respect. On matters anarcho, have the Black Death EP by The Sinyx, who were a local band, anybody else heard them?
I'm having a similar feeling
to the one I get reading 99% True. To each of the above I've thought 'Now that one is DEFINITELY made up'....apart of course from "Pochonbo Electronic Ensemble" which I saw in the Colston Hall in 1982 (I think)
There are
some treasures under my iTunes collection's 'Ancient Greek' genre (e.g. 'Secular Music of Greek Antiquity Vol. 2' by Petros Tabouris). The ancient Greeks were apparently strangers to the concept of musical harmony. Listening to this, it seems that they may have had the occasional 'senior moment' regarding the concepts of rhythm and melody as well. Some tracks (e.g. 'Kolavrismos') rock, though. I think if you had a goat that needed sacrificing, nothing else would quite do justice to the occasion.
A while ago, 'The Independent' gave away a couple of CDs of 'British Birdsong' and I have these on my iTunes. I suppose you could debate whether this is music or not but it nicely supplements the efforts of our feathered chums in the garden of a weekend evening. Really quite relaxing, until the Corncrake comes on ...
Holidays are always good for finding something different. I have a particular fondness for my album of hurdy-gurdy music from the Auvergne ('Musique Pour Vielle A Roue' by Gilles Chabenat). I also have a very fine CD of 18th century Prussian military marches ('Preussens Gloria' by the Stabsmusikkorps Berlin) that I bought in a souvenir shop in Potsdam. Can't remember why exactly. The sort of stuff Frederick the Great would have sung in the bath. Just the thing for releasing your inner BMW-driver, should you require this. I play it occasionally to annoy the family.
Rooney
I have a CD called On Fading Out by a band called Rooney - not the LA band signed to Geffen, oh no.
I've only played it once, the songs as I recall are doom-laden indeed and the production sounds as though the cd was recorded in my bathroom.
I bought it from Vinyl Exchange in Manchester, purely because my surname was Rooney.
It appears to date from about 1998/9. Inside the case is a slip that says:
"Common Culture Records are pleased to present this new collection of 15 songs of ordinary life, the follow up to the very well received debut album Time On Their Hands." (No, not heard of that one either)
If anyone else has a copy.....
I have a copy of.....
"Records are Like Life" by Andy Pratt !
Does anyone else, apart from Andy's mum ?
Not so fast, Roy
Gadzooks !
back to the loft
Tableau of a Lithotomy
WFMU has a page of info and 2 mp3 samples from this album at: http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2007/04/365_days_97_nor.html
Taking Ambridge
I have a 12" single buried somewhere in the loft called Taking Ambridge which was a Coldcut/Avalanches style cut and paste dance record complete with sound clips of characters from The Archers, farmyard animals, etc. I loved it at the time (1989?) but I cannot find it anywhere on the net because I can't remember the "artist". Anyone care to help?
Conifers in rock
The best that I can come up with is an album by Transylvanian blackmetallers Negură Bunget, titled: 'N Crugu Bradului. It's a concept album with each of the tracks representing a different season (they all sound like winter to me). The digipack version comes with an authentic cutting from a Transylvanian forest.
I'd advise the use of garlic
whenever you play this one. There may be undead spores in that frond.
Whatever you do, don't play it backwards, er, backwards.
Just found
"Should the World Fail to Fall Apart" by Peter Murphy in Gatefold Sleeve. Can't be many people who have that, or maybe I'm wrong......
Well...
you're far from unique. I have that too (though can't remember what it sounds like)
Well my mother thinks I'm Unique.
Just played it. Probably sounds exactly like you remember. (Of it's time.) Nice sleeve though.
I give you . . .
. . . "The awful disclosures of Maria Monk" by Woody Kern
and "Different Breed" by Beltane Fire
The Woody Kern one is not desoerately good - I think Rik Kenton later of Roxy Music fame is on it
The Beltane Fire album is a corker but not available on CD more's the pity
Luminescent Orchestrii
"LUMINESCENT ORCHESTRII IS: Romanian gypsy melodies, punk frenzy, salty tangos, hard-rocking klezmer, haunting Balkan harmony, hip-hop beats and Appalachian fiddle, all eaten and spit out by two violins, resophonic guitar, bullhorn harmonica and bass." Saw them at a free lunch time show in Aberdeen and bought their "Too Hot to Sleep" album which is great for threatenng the kids with when they want some noisy crap on in the car. Worth checking out at lumii.com.
Does anyone slse have a copy of Pete Shelley's Sky Yen? A great lost masterpiece.
I can't hold a candle to you lot....
....but I have a couple of cds that *I* think are obscure, but you'll probably be telling me that they're almost mainstream.
Rockin' Sidney - I'm Your Man
Louisiana guitar and accordian player. Blues, Zydeco and a bucketful of soul.
Larry Johnson(with Brian Kramer and the Couch Lizards) - Two Gun Green
Blues singer/guitarist/harmonica player who sounds absoulely nothing like any other blues performer that I'm familiar with. Even though some of his songs are *down*, he's obviosly having fun....tells great stories. The backing band are a blues trio from Stockholm.
Can't remember how I got them, but almost certainly it would've been after listning to a Paul Jones blues programme on Radio 2. Is Radio 2 mainstream?
and I bet Paul Jones
found them during a late night commando raid on Mr Hepworth's obviously extensive loft space.
Try As I Might To Impress But
Every time I stick on the monthly Word CD on at work my colleagues bemoan the fact that I put on "obscure" or "unknown" artists on. Do me a favour here give you ears a clean out, there is music beyond the charts for goodness sake.
Their music comes free with a daily newspaper not a monthly quality music magazine.
"Who's that?" or "Never heard of him" arrogance that drives me up the wall. And some of these are Word magazine favourites too.
Any one for Matmos? I've threatened to play them to see their reaction.
Any takers?
Fields And Waves by .O.Rang on the sound grounds that it's by ex-Talk Talk members.
It's, er, a bit experimental and improvised.
Willing to accept offers below the £4.99 current eBay benchmark.
yOu Rang?
I have Herd of Instinct on CD and on my iPod. It doesn't appear to have been played on the latter. Ever. But my Russian rave-enthusiast friend Sergei seemed to like it.
My oddity / obscurity is "Hybrid Kids" from 1979, which is a series of famous songs done in a bizarre style. Like the Chipmunks in a parallel and quite sinister Universe. So there's "God Save the Queen" by Punky and Porky and "Wuthering Heights" by Jah Wurzel. The latter is sung in a West Country accent and played in a dub style.
The cover art uses a disturbing Francis Bacon triptych, just to make the whole thing even more offputting.
The perpetrator was Morgan Fisher, ex-Mott the Hoople.
Scans! Scans!
Sounds alarming, any chance of visuals?
Hybrid Kids
I'm quaking now.

Strewth
it's chimera central.
Suzanne VEGA
Now I know she isn't obscure however I did buy an album called Tom's Diner which has 15 versions of her song Tom's Diner done in different styles and languages by a variety of artists including a group called 'Bingo Hand Job'. There is also a version by Beth Watson called Waiting at the Border set to the tune of Tom's Diner but the lyrics are about the first Gulf war with Geurge Bush speaking through it.
Bingo's boys
are REM I think, from memory - can anyone confirm?
Confirmed
Roger and out.
Bingo Hand Job
I saw REM at The Borderline back in about 1990 or 91 when they were performing under that name.
And from Grimsby...
The Brothers Band with their 1976 eponymous album on the Humber Records label, featuring covers such as Rock'n'Me, Magneto & Titanium Man plus naturally Elton John's Grimsby .
Infrasonic What?
About a year ago I found a copy of double CD of electronic doodles that even Itunes describes as 'unclassifiable' at my local Record exchange in Birmingham. The CD is called 'Infrasonic Waves' and it cost me £1. I bought it on the strength of a tune (I use the term loosly) by Avrocar which I 'd once heard Radiohead play on Radio 1 and had never been able to track down.
When I returned to the office to boast of my fantastic bargain I was met with so many blank faces. Please tell me i'm not the only person to have had this experience?
Anyway - I now play one of the tracks 'Pondcup' by Charles Atlas' at bedtime to get by youngest daughter to sleep. It seems to do the trick.
From the '60s
I have a single by the Roaring '60s called We love the pirate stations. I only heard it once on Radio Caroline in the 80s though I assume it was popular on Caroline in the 60s ! I tracked it down second hand somewhere and have hardly ever seen it for sale since, though it does get a mention in this month's Record Collector of music banned by the Beeb. Sample lyric: there's some swinging DJs playing top 40 records, they can really turn you on, now the government's trying to close down the stations,what'll happen when they're gone ?'
I also have Indians in Moscow's single 'Naughty Miranda' - they were from Hull and this was a throw away copy from the local Viking Radio station, also in the 80s.
We did love the pirates
I remember it well. Radio Caroline played it to death but I'd completely forgotten who the band was, so thanks Janice.
How Obscure
Here's a one. Does anyone else have the Album 'Mainstream' by Quiet Sun. Featuring Phil Manzanera, Brian Eno & others. The album may actually be called Quiet Sun and the band Mainstream but there you go. Its riddled through with jazz rock meanderings but some of it is stunning. "Mummy was an asteroid, Daddy was a small non-stick kitchen utensil" must surely be the best/worst best song titles of all time.
Can't even be sure where or how I bought this but think it was a mail order only item
thanks
That's a fab album.
The band is indeed "Quiet Sun". Groovy details available here: http://www.manzanera.com/qscat.htm
Highly recommended.
I have that one...
...the Quiet Sun album is a brilliant piece of work. I never got around to getting Phil Manzanera's solo album 'Diamond Head' though which was recorded around the same time.
I think 'Mainstream' was on Island's budget price catalogue which had catalogue numbers beginning with 'HELP', as was ELP's 'Pictures At An Exhibition' and King Crimson's abysmally recorded 'Earthbound'.
Maroondogs?
Can I claim an album is obscure if the band turn out to have a myspace page I wonder. Well I'll have a go.
"Be Seeing You" (aka BC in U) by the Maroondogs, Kent-based pub band of the 1980s. I thought I had a copy of their first album "Apart from the Physically Impossible", but that seems to have succumbed to the ravages of house moves.
"Daphne Dear" was always a favourite with its rousing chorus:
You don't even think of me as someone you can talk to
You don't think of Timbuktu as somewhere you can walk to
So change your mind, my Daphne Daphne dear
And please love me again
Sheer genius.
Ring any bells?
I
Picked up an album by a band called The Braille Drivers in a bargain bin in a record shop in America simply because I liked the cover and the song titles. The record wasn't much cop though. I think apart from stuff by friends' bands that's probably the most obscure record I own.
Iron Maiden
No, not THAT Iron Maiden. This was a rock trio who were Bolton's biggest band in the early 70's. They disbanded when guitarist Beak sadly died of cancer without releasing any records.
However, 30 years after his death studio and live CDs were brought out to raise money for cancer charities with the permission and support of the current Iron Maiden. Listen to tracks on this Myspace page and visit their site for a full history.
http://www.myspace.com/theboltonironmaiden