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How much is it worth?
In my position as "The bloke in the office who knows a bit about music", I was to day approached by a colleague who told me that whilst clearing his loft out at the weekend he find a stack of his old vinyl. "If I give you a list", he asked, "could you tell me how much its worth".
"OK" said I, but don't go expecting a fortune. We're really talking extra pocket money at a Car Boot Sale, than a feature spot on The Antiques Roadshow.
He didn't believe me.
Protests included:
"I've got the original Band Aid single" - so have I mate, and 3 million others (in fact, I think I've got 6 copies (for some reason?))
"Theres a couple of Beatles albums" - from the description they sound like 'Rock n Roll Music' Volumes 1 & 2 on Music For Pleasure
"What about 'Thriller', its an original copy so must be worth something, what with Michael Jackson dying and his doctor being convicted"
Every half-hour or so he'd come past offering a new "surefire money-spinner" (final offering was an original pressing (his words not mine) of 'Bat Out Of Hell').
I remained composed and politely said: "Bring me the list tomorrow, and I'll have a look".
I'm expecting the usual Charity Shop staples of Paul Young - No Parlez and The Cars - Heartbeat City.
Who knows might even uncover a diamond in the rough.
Bugs me though - just because records are old, why are people convinced that it must be worth a mint?
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And this bloke
is in paid employment?
He's
someone important at the Treasury, probably.
He's Something In The City
A lamp post
Agreed.....
....its a bit like those high street charity shops who overprice bog standard LP releases that you can pick up for half the price on ebay.
I've a hefty vinyl collection but I reckon I only have 2 LP's that are worth a decent amount. Two unplayed copies of Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness on triple vinyl, one copy of which is still sealed. They go for a decent amount on ebay.
But thats about it. The odd 10" single here and there. Just cos its old dont make it worth anything.
Only two too
I reckon the only ones I have worth anything are 'My Generation' on Brunswick and the first Small Faces album on Immediate. Other than that probably no more than a couple of pounds each - if that.
I'll take Thriller for a tenner.
I'll accept a cheque.
The subject least known in Britain in 2011....?
.....brain surgery?
No.
17th Century verse.
No.
Polish farming machinery from 22nd June 1923 to 15th February 1931.
No.
The answer is pop music.
The average Joe, on the....erm....'street', hasn't got a f***ing clue.
As Danny Baker would have it: 'Fact'.
Of course you do realise
that we are all now expecting a full list?
Nun
I've got about $6000 NZD's worth of Flying Nun albums/singles/eps in my living room at the moment. Unfortunately not mine but a mate's. He asked me to get them priced up for insurance purposes and I was a bit unsure of their value until I started doing some research. Some are signed, they're all mint, complete with inserts etc....
He's also got a stack of vintage 60s posters that his dad left him and more as yet undiscovered gems in his garage.
Lucky man.
I can't wait for the list!
Make sure you post it here.
I have a fair amount of
I have a fair amount of vinyl, little of it valuable. Apparently 90's britpop albums (Blur, Pulp et al) are worth a few quid as are the Beatles Anthology other than that....
'Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of The War of the Worlds'...
Gotta be one of them.
And there it is!
And there it is!
I'm betting
on several Phil Collins albums.
Weird though innit
because your 1990s Britpop classics which one might assume are worth nowt cause everyone and their nan's got em are worth a fair old whack in decent condition. The average WORD reader knows this already i'm sure but it still raised an eyebrow when i found out. The thinking of course is that everyone's got them *but on CD*. Big sellers like Elastica's debut, the first 2 by Oasis (which were double vinyls), Dog Man Star by Suede, some Manics, any of the 90s Blurs etc etc all go for between 50 and 100 quid and that's the going rate for 'Very Good' to 'Mint/New' condition.
Tricky blighter this vinyl pricing.
Correct
Scarcity is a big factor in pricing Vinyl. Britpop happened to coincide with the peak of CDs and the likes of HMV, Virgin and Our Price were pretty much a Vinyl free zone by then, so those LPs would have had a very limited run on Vinyl.
I've got
a yellow vinyl Yellow Submarine, and somewhere in my parent's garage (I hope) there's a white White Album and Morrissey's Education in Reverse. And possibly a pink Dark Side Of The Moon; unless my folks have got rid of them at a sale somewhere (definite possibility). Nothing stunning.
In the name of space and a smaller apartment, I'll be offloading all of the flat black stuff in the not-too-distant future and I'm not expecting a massive profit. Just because I read about some nice chap selling his decade's worth of records for a truckload doesn't mean I expect the same thing. I'll be happy if they go to a good home and I score enough for a decent meal and a bottle of wine.
also...
The Bloke with the list will also tell you: "They are all in perfect condition" and then you will find they appear to have lined a guinea pig's cage for a while.
Of course you never know
I help out with a record shop from time to time and the other day we opened a box full of vinyl which contained the usual charity shop crap, Music for Pleasure compilations, Brass Band LPs, Bread etc. but in the middle was a bunch of Isaac Hayes, Marvin Gaye, Blaxploitation soundtracks, some rare Disco stuff, and some 70s German electronic stuff.
Valuing records is a strange art. Popsike.com is a good place to start. It catalogues ebay sale prices (rather than silly asking prices) over a few years and gives you an idea of what people are prepared to pay.
Really it boils down to:
Scarcity (some of the most valuable records are private pressings by completely obscure artists)
Quality of the music (see above)
Collectable Artist (Beatles, Queen, Sex Pistols, Pink Floyd)
Collectable Label (Deram, Vertigo etc)
Collectable Genre/Era (Northern Soul, 70s Reggae, Punk, Psych, Folk)
Something about the Sleeve/Picture Disc/Something interesting about the record.
and what overrides all of the above is the condition of the record and the sleeve. Anything less than Mint/EX/VG and the value degrades hugely.
Combine varying degrees of the above and you've got a valuable record
The most valuable record in the World is a 78 RPM acetate of 'That'll Be The Day'/'In Spite of All the Danger' recorded by The Quarrymen in 1958. There is only one copy on existence and it belongs to former Quarryman Sir Paul McCartney. Est. £100k but probably worth a lot more.
You're onto a winner
He sounds so clueless - and you have lowered his expectations so much - that he's ripe for exploitin'.
"A mint copy of Double Fantasy with a personal note from John to Yoko written on the cover, dated 7 December 1980? Nah mate, ten-a-penny. I'll take it off your hands though if you want, *shrug*.
My valuable album
I have a numbered 2 cd compilation of Ian McNabb rarities and outtakes released only on his own site which is allegedly now selling for £200.00.
I ain't selling it so it's somewhat irrelevant.
i've got that too!
any idea how many were made? not selling either, just curious and who would really pay £200 for it?
"Boots"?
With the number on the spine?
That's worth £200?
Really?
If so, wow.
Like you, I'm not selling though.
Mine's 900 and odd. I think. I'm going to have a look tonight though. Says 1000 pressed on his website.
Sorry.......
I nearly had a signed Stevie Wonder Talking Book but he signed the table instead.
I'll get me shroud.....
My parents had a Sgt Pepper...
... with all the cut out taches etc. Which my little sister cheerfully cut out when she was little. I'm sure that potentially would have been worth something.
Likewise The White Album. All the photos etc were still there. Little sister drew over them.
Alas
Or - given the sibling ill feeling involved - perhaps Hurrah. Every copy of both albums had them in, the Fantabulosas wanted to 'give something back to the kids'. Or potentially 'stick it to the man'.
Even though it was ten or so years later I remember the feeling of only have enough money to buy one LP a week on my earnings/pocket money and if a band made an effort like that it was really special
I've got numbered copy 01306 of the initial
limited vinyl run of Polly Harvey's Dry, which includes the bonus second album of demo versions, and both discs have only been played once on good kit. I have no idea what that's worth, but I'd expect it to be in three figures. I've also got a mint demo copy of a Rough Trade album by Thomas Mapfumo that's never seen a CD release; that's currently going for about $300 if you can track a copy down. Those, and the two Cressida albums (£250 and £400 approx.) on Vertigo are probably my best LPs in terms of collectability. But even with all of their shelf-mates, and there's 2,500 of them, I don't expect to be able to retire on the proceeds. Your chum is in cloud cuckoo land, I'm afraid.
Sure it's "a colleague"?
And not you, asking the question under-cover...?
Rarest piece of vinyl i own
is a one sided Blur 'Popscene' promo 12" with Not For Resale on the label. Was worth about 50 quid lass i looked and made all the sweeter by an original bargain box price tag of 50p when i bought it in '93 *just* prior to them getting big.
On Danny Baker's Radio 1 show he once got charity shop and 2nd hand record shop owners to phone and say what their most commonly brought in album was, and Leo Sayer's 'Endless Flight' was the winner by some distance.
I Have In My Hand A Piece Of Paper
Link to Record List:
http://rigiddigithasissues.blogspot.com/2011/12/how-much-is-it-worth.htm...
"Interesting" reading - don't think there's anything there to set the world on fire
If they are all in tip top mint condition, £40 the lot.
If not, he'd be hard pressed to shift them for more than £20 all told.
That was my estimate
Car Boot Sale, possibly e-bay (might make a bit more depending on amount of interest), or more likely just give them to a Charity Shop
set the world on fire?
a Brussels sprout would prove more incendiary than that lot.
Judging from the records
I'd hazard a guess and say the seller was inbetween the ages of 45 and 55, and probably wasn't into music in a serious manner.
Ooh...
Tony Basil, Tight Fit, Phil Collins - score!
80s CDs can be worth a bit
Original, no bar codes.
Still the same 80s choons on them, though.
Eddie Howell
In the Identity Crisis thread, Fraser mentions Eddie Howell.
Inspired by the memory, although I don't know if there was another Kiwi Eddie Howell that Fraser is thinking of (certainly no resemblance) I did a bit of research.
I was given The Eddie Howell Gramophone Record back in the 70s. I see on eBay that a copy is for sale for £22. It was a crock of shite that I wouldn't pay £0:22p for. I also found that he had a tie up with Queen who did some production work with him. Some Japanese 7" singles go for a similar price.
Pink Floyd records? Worthless?
I used to work with a big Floyd fan who was convinced his vinyl copies would be worth something.
"So you have copies of a record made by one of the most successful groups of all time. You know how groups get successful. By selling lots of records. So by that definition your's are probably the most worthless of all." He couldn't get his head around that.
I went through my brothers collection of 80s Marillion picture discs about 2 years ago.They have maybe doubled in price in the intervening years. Whoopie.
He did have a Guns N Roses Paradise City picture disc of a gun that, if memory serves could fit in a paper sleeve that was shaped like a hoster. Depending on where I look its 'worth' between £8 and $230.