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How is the Kindle working out for everyone?

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This time last year (or was it two years ago??) the big trendy Christmas present was the Kindle. Well, we resisted the trend because I wasn't convinced it was anything more than a novelty, but now my wife thinks it might be a good idea after all.

So, for all the people who DID get one last year: how is it working out for you? Changed your life? Any unforeseen benefits or drawbacks? Worth getting one?

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Father's day

rather than Christmas. I have not bought a paper book since, and now find myself rather wondering what to do about the pile of paper books by my bed. My GLW is insistant that for her there is no going back and she has bought her last book. I'm not quite so certain, but the majority of my purchases are likely to be electronic from her on in.

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paulwright | 11 December 2011 - 4:10pm

really enjoying it

I travel a lot for work, so this means I can carry a pile of books without the weight and also without guilt-tripping myself into not abandoning books when I'm away. If I take them back home, I can pass them on to someone.

I still buy some actual books - but much fewer than I did before.

It is very good for carrying things that I like to dip in to, like poetry collections - I've got several of them and that is very relaxing for a ten minute riffle and read.

If you are thinking of getting one, it is worth using the information kindly provided by The Massive here :

http://wordmagazine.co.uk/content/atm-what-should-i-put-my-kindle

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el hombre malo | 11 December 2011 - 4:17pm

Kindle App

Not got a Kindle as such but use the Kindle App on the iPad. Like Paul above I've not bought a paper book for ages and am quite happy about it. This came as quite a surprise to me as I am currently sitting in a room fully lined with bookshelves packed with years of purchases.

On the other hand my music listening is almost exclusively done from the computer these days and my CDs and vinyl are sitting around dusty and neglected so perhaps I should have realised what would happen.

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tonyg | 11 December 2011 - 4:27pm

Love it.

I got one last Xmas and since then have purchased 2 physical books, one (S J Perelman) because it isn't available for Kindle and one because it's a book of photos. It's eminently readable, highly convenient, go anywhere, good battery life and reliable. I love it.

The only drawbacks are: it does away with passing books between friends so if you buy a trashy "paperback" for the beach, you can't even leave it in the hotel for the next person; and you have to watch the pricing because many books are not as cheap as you might wish.

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Mark JF | 11 December 2011 - 4:56pm

Couldn't be better

Like the above I haven't bought a physical book since I got my Kindle a couple of months ago. The convenience of carrying a ton of books is completely liberating and means that I am reading a lot more.

But if you do get one, get Calibre. Downloading the Guardian, BBC News and The New Yorker to read in the morning is a joy.

Even the Web Browser is usable if a bit clunky, Kindlemap is really good as a faux sat-nav.

My advice is GET ONE!

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ip29 | 11 December 2011 - 5:56pm

A joy

I have about 50 books on my kindle that I have read. I also purchase some physical books -mostly poetry. Due to a lack of space at home the kindle has been very useful. Also useful is the leather case with the incorporated light which I use a lot . I have had a kindle since September 2010 , I will continue to read through both mediums. I think that maybe the arrival of the e reader will mean that publishers will take more care in the presentation of books - the Julian Barnes and Carol Ann Duffy books are two good examples.

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vgom | 11 December 2011 - 6:05pm

Unforeseen benefits?

You can read books that you would otherwise be too embarrassed to read in public.

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Brookster | 11 December 2011 - 6:31pm

Its on the xmas list for this year

I have had a Sony Reader for a bit more than a year and its great but the software is a nightmare and I wouldn't trust it with managing DRM so I have limited myself to free classics.

With a Kindle I would feel more confident about buying books I think.

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Skuds | 11 December 2011 - 7:54pm

I have a Sony Reader Pocket and a Kindle...

I've read perhaps 3 books on the Sony since buying the Kindle. Says it all, really. The only thing better about the Sony is the fact that it's slightly smaller. And better constructed. OK, that's two things but in every other regard the Kindle is by far the better e-reader...

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oktapod | 11 December 2011 - 10:38pm

Highly recommended.

I recently used the Kindle app on an iPad and, while this is useful, I find the screen on the Kindle itself a far superior reading experience.

Only downside is that, once you've set up your account with Amazon, it's frighteningly easy to buy stuff! This is especially worrying for me as I've recently got into Lee Child's fantastically gripping Jack Reacher novels. Just starting number three. Of sixteen...

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DougieJ | 11 December 2011 - 8:02pm

Reacher...

You're in for a bit of a treat. Light, throwaway trashy thrillers that just keep you coming back for more. Perfect holiday reading, really...

Enjoy!

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oktapod | 11 December 2011 - 10:37pm

Got one last Christmas

And it's very good. Still buying physical books as well, but mostly remaindered stuff that isn't as cheap as Kindle books. What I've noticed is that the back catalogues are now starting to appear, so as well as all the Sharpe novels, there's now all the Flashman books, all the Jack Aubrey/Steven Maturin canon, and Ian M Banks SF output as well. This is potentially very heavy on the wallet.

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policybloke1 | 11 December 2011 - 8:27pm

All these positive comments! For some balance...

...nope, can't do it.

The Kindle is great. Perfect for holidays, perfect for impulse buys, perfect for 'disguising' what you're reading. Not that I would ever read anything inappropriate or embarrassing. Oh no.

Still buy paperbacks, but less so. But buying more overall. And reading more too.

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Paul Waring | 11 December 2011 - 8:47pm

A lone(ish) voice.

Of all the things I use my iPad for (which in itself is a shortening list), the Kindle / iBooks bit is now the very least. It's not the reading experience - that's fine. There's tons that's cool about it. It's absolutely the future, and I'm as much of a gadget-lover as the next man. And that's entirely leaving aside my Apple fanboy tendencies and my absolute awe at the magnificence of Amazon's business.

It's just I love books. I am to books what vinyl freaks are to music. I love their smell. I love their simplicity. I love the fact that a room full of crammed bookshelves needs no further decoration. They're beautiful, which is something an eBook can never be. They're your friend in a way an eBook can never be. There's a warmth and a humanity to a book that a screen can't match.

Books were the love of my life long before records came along. I can't abandon them. I'm a huge, old-fashioned romantic about them. You can have my books when you pry them from my cold dead hands.

Actually, no you can't. Because I'm leaving them to my daughters.

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Bob | 11 December 2011 - 8:50pm

The smell of books

I am a bibliophile, too (i.e., book freak). I have stacks of books in every room of my house and I wouldn't have it any other way. But I confess, I did buy a Kindle for my daughter (aged 14). It's proved a valuable educational tool for her -- most of the classics are available free on Amazon so she can download books free that she needs for school. The dictionary function on the Kindle is very helpful: For some reason, kids just don't seem to get up to use a dictionary to look up a word nowadays. But having the dictionary function on her Kindle means she can quickly look up a word that she might otherwise glide right over.

Plus, when she was having difficulty following Huckleberry Finn because of the thick slang that Mark Twain used, the Kindle had an audio function that read the book aloud and helped her follow along.

I don't want one for myself but I feel it was a good purchase for her.

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Lott | 12 December 2011 - 1:09am

I feel exactly the

same about books and I just cannot envisage myself using a Kindle, however great they appear to be. However I am running very low on shelf space and am currently engaging in a form of tetris to try and fit new books on shelves. I also feel far too attached to my favourite bookshops. However, do agree about the benefits of a Kindles for children who aren't good readers, my 13 year old nephew seems to enjoy using it.

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Francis Barry-Walsh | 12 December 2011 - 10:45am

I have absolutely nothing against Kindles...

...or gadgets or anything like that at all. The Kindle seems like a great little machine, although one of two things is going to have to happen: either the Kindle becomes more multifunctional, or iPads etc. are going to have to overcome the screen issues/lack of e-ink.

I wouldn't want to align myself with any anti-gadget type of thinking, because I'm very much a tech-lover. The equivalent with music is absolutely up my street: I have no visible records or CDs in my house ever since getting an iPod years ago.

So, yeah: nothing against Kindles at all. I'm glad they work brilliantly for people. They're just not for me.

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Bob | 12 December 2011 - 12:04pm

I have had one since March

The only thing I miss is not being able to pass a book on. All in all it's a lot better for travelling and you don't clog the house up with books that you will probably never read again. I'm thinking of buying the FPO one for Xmas.

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Lunaman | 11 December 2011 - 8:51pm

Also had one since March

I'm surprised at how quickly I got used to it. I still buy other books, however, because many just don't fit with the Kindle experience. For example, the 'Endless Trip' and 'Galactic Ramble' music compendiums.
I'm not sure I read any more than I did before overall but reading books in bed ( especially large ones ) is a lot easier. Also works outside in the summer - very easy to read.
I might be tempted by the Kindle Fire, though, when it is released in the UK.

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jazzjet | 11 December 2011 - 9:15pm

I've had one since September 2010

I love it. I have the case with he built in light and its perfect for when I can't sleep and my wife can. Have just bought her a one of the newer smaller ones and she seems pretty hooked as well. They are set up on the same account so we share books on them. She is ignoring the football and music ones though....

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Leedsboy | 11 December 2011 - 9:25pm

I didn't realise you could share an account

Thats a plus - the FPO will be getting one now.

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Lunaman | 12 December 2011 - 8:32am

We're both getting Kobos for Crimble

Having tried my brother in laws Kindle we then looked at the Kobo Touch e-readers. They're a much nicer tactile experience and having spent some time filling them up (before re-boxing them ready to open on Christmas Day) they look like they'll be great.

Must say though, the programming on the Kobo bookstore is nowhere near as good or user friendly as Amazon's Kindle store. Hopefully that will improve with time. I'm not sure if it has quite the range that Amazon has but that said I found lots of nice free books as well as a number of bought items too. Ranging across obscure Edgar Rice Burroughs John Carter novels, Sherlock Holmes, Shakespeare, poetry anthologies, reference works, Wells and Verne, some study Bibles in various translations, a couple of best-sellers etc etc etc.

Looking forward to playing with it on Christmas Day...

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Trevor_Raggatt | 11 December 2011 - 9:39pm

in the interest of balance

I am really not sure about them. I don't like the idea of my reading experience being mediated by Amazon, for one thing, and the whole locked in ecosystem idea is horrible. Plus, they look plastic, cheap and nasty, and frankly I don't think the technology is all that - the page turn action takes an age and I really don't see how it doesn't drive anyone who can read above a remedial level mad.

But don't take my word for it, listen to the Greatest Living Englishman* instead:

So do you not have a Kindle?
I’ve got very little connection to technology at all. I’m pretty Amish in most of my approach to technology. Anything after the horse and buggy, I’m a bit suspicious of. I can see that for some people having a Kindle would be a real benefit. I can also see the state of my home, which is pretty much surrendered to books. Me and Melinda, we make our living space around the books. But I kind of like that. I wouldn’t prefer in a million years to have all of them – and I’m pretty sure I couldn’t have all of them – downloaded on a Kindle. Because they’ve got an artefact value. I’ve got first editions that have got beautiful illustrations or are signed; it’s all part of the mystique of books to me. Perhaps people would argue that that’s not necessarily relevant, but I think our emotional attachment to an object is a part of all this.
Like I say, I’m not against electronic books per se. I don’t think they’re the downfall of civilisation or the end of literacy. I just tend to have quite a lot of faith in the book itself as the publishing world equivalent of a shark. Sharks have not evolved in millions and millions of years simply because they haven’t had to. They were pretty much perfect to start with. And I feel the same way about books. I doubt that published books are going to go anywhere any time soon.
I can see that the people actually producing technology, such as Kindle and iPad, these are always the people who are telling us that we have to have these things. And being the type of creatures that we are, a fair number of us will naturally fall into that, will perhaps assume that as a status symbol it’s much better to be seen reading a Kindle than a dog-eared paperback. Although I will note that the last two or three times I’ve taken train journeys, everybody around me was sitting round reading a dog-eared paperback. I tend to think that for most people the idea of the book, with its easy portability, where you can turn the corner of a page down, where you are basically working with ordinary, reflected light rather than screen radiance, I think that the book will end up as the reading method of choice.

*No, not sodding Stephen Fry

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maggieloveshopey | 11 December 2011 - 10:06pm

"Screen radiance"

Not sure who the "Greatest living Englishman" might be - but those two words just confirm that (s)he has never actually used a Kindle.

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Paul Waring | 11 December 2011 - 11:12pm

It's Alan Moore

and to be fair to the GLE, the paragraph with the screen radiance quote also refers to the iPad.

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maggieloveshopey | 11 December 2011 - 11:19pm

As I mentioned earlier,

I find the 'liquid paper' of the Kindle far more comfortable on the eye than the iPad's super-bright screen (which, in every other respect is obviously a good thing).

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DougieJ | 11 December 2011 - 11:23pm

But...

...we're talking about Kindles here, not iPads.

Oh, and the page turning takes, I would suggest, less than half a second and certainly less than 'an age'. Possibly about as long as it takes to flick a paper page over? It doesn't drive me mad at all. And I find the suggestion that this therefore makes my reading level 'remedial' quite offensive, actually.

Poor choice of words, I'm sure you'll agree, on reflection.

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Paul Waring | 12 December 2011 - 12:23am

No, I don't think I will.

If you choose to be offended by what is clearly a flippant and exaggerated comment made to highlight what for me is a genuine issue with the Kindle then by all means feel free, but please don't tell me what to think.

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maggieloveshopey | 12 December 2011 - 8:25pm

I wasn't telling you what to think.

I was telling you what I thought - which is that 'Remedial' is not a particularly pretty word to use - especially in the context of the acceptance or otherwise of the page-turning ability of an electronic device.

But that's cool - I'm sure you didn't mean to cause offence.

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Paul Waring | 12 December 2011 - 10:27pm

Completely

agree. There's nothing like a real book. And I like having a wall of volumes ( how do you know for certain you'll never read them again?? ). These kindle doo-dahs might be fun on a train or holiday but I'll never buy one and- curiously- despite all the hype I haven't seen anybody using one. London trips? One person on the tube. Everyone else reading paperbacks. Spain and France last year? Not a plastic wallet in sight. Only real books.

Oh, I don't have one of those ipod/padwangles either. And I have no intention of moving my library or CD collection into the loft for 'space'. My books and my CDs *are* my space.

( Oddly, as a surreal postscript, according to Amazon one of my own books is available on Kindle...)

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eddie g | 12 December 2011 - 9:38am

Love it still

I had virtually stopped reading books before I got the Kindle, as my reading time had contracted with kids, work etc. I've read almost 100 books in the last 18 months with the Kindle. The only print books I'll be buying are those not suited to the Kindle's format (cookbooks, guitar books etc).

I have four kindles registered to my account: mine, my partner's, my Dad's and my brother's. We all have access to the one big library and can read books simultaneously. They just pop some bucks in my account if they make a purchase.

We were rearranging furniture on the weekend and I cleared all paperbacks out of our swollen shelves and put them in storage. If it's not on the Kindle I won't read it. It made me think of the tens of thousands I have spent on books over the last 20 years, and that I no longer have probably 30-50% of these books due to damage (two floods), loans, theft etc. With the Kindle, I own access rights to my purchases forever.

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Podicle | 11 December 2011 - 10:13pm

That last sentence

is somewhat optimistic.

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maggieloveshopey | 11 December 2011 - 10:19pm

Why?

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Paul Waring | 11 December 2011 - 11:09pm

It's a pretty universal issue

with any bought digital content, but this Guardian piece sums it up:

"The report reads: "Owners of Amazon's Kindle electronic book reader have received a nasty surprise, after discovering that copies of books by George Orwell had been deleted from their gadgets without their knowledge. The books – downloaded from Amazon.com by American Kindle users – were remotely deleted after what the US company now says was a rights issue regarding the publisher, MobileReference.com." It seems that Amazon refunded the cost of the books, but told affected customers they could no longer read the books and that the titles were no longer available.

Here's the translation: you go to Waterstone's, buy a copy of Orwell's 1984 and take it home. Two days later you get up and find that agents of Waterstone's have entered the house during the night and removed the offending volume. They've left a terse note explaining what they've done and enclosing a credit note for the cost of the book. Enraged, you phone the manager of Waterstone's, who explains that everything is in accordance with the service agreement you accepted when you bought the book.

You don't have to be a lawyer to know that this would not be tolerated in the real world of physical objects.Yet it's commonplace – indeed universal – in the world of information goods. And what makes it possible is the "End User Licence Agreement" (EULA) that most of us click to accept when we first use hardware, software or online services.

The Kindle EULA is a good example. Section 3, which deals with "Digital Content" (such as downloaded books), says that "Unless specifically indicated otherwise, you may not sell, rent, lease, distribute, broadcast, sublicense or otherwise assign any rights to the Digital Content or any portion of it to any third party, and you may not remove any proprietary notices or labels on the Digital Content." In other words, you are forbidden to lend or sell the book you've just "bought". In real-world terms, you can't lend your copy of 1984 to a friend or donate it to the school jumble sale.

Under the subsection on "Use of Digital Content', the Kindle EULA says: "Amazon grants you the non-exclusive right to keep a permanent copy of the applicable Digital Content and to view, use, and display such Digital Content an unlimited number of times, solely on the Device or as authorized by Amazon as part of the Service and solely for your personal, non-commercial use."

Translation: you can't back up your electronic books on to any other device – which means that if your Kindle packs up, or if Amazon moves on to another technical standard, you're screwed: your entire digital library has effectively been vaporised. Then you look round your house and note the number of electronic devices that no longer work."

(http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/08/amazon-kindle-licence-o...)

see also http://boingboing.net/2009/07/23/jeff-bezoss-kindle-a.html :"in the months since its release, we've learned that Amazon will shut off your Kindle account for returning physical purchases if it doesn't think you're sincere; we've learned that Amazon can remotely delete files from your Kindle; we've learned that Amazon has a secret deal with some publishers to limit the number of times you can download Kindle books; we've learned that Amazon can selectively switch off features on books after you buy them, such as the text-to-speech feature. "

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maggieloveshopey | 11 December 2011 - 11:34pm

Two things

Regarding the issue with the 1984 book, you forgot to mention that the company was selling pirated versions of a book it didn't have the rights to. Amazon would have been guilty of copyright infringement by association if it hadn't deleted the books.

If your Kindle is lost or stolen, you can deregister it. When you buy another one, all the books you have purchased from Amazon will be downloaded to your new one. The fact that your purchased books essentially live on Amazon's servers has both advantages and disadvantages.

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Brookster | 12 December 2011 - 9:40am

In response to the first

In response to the first point there, the mind boggles that a company the size of Amazon can't do due diligence and ensure they're not selling pirated material. Frankly, it's their problem, and if the only way round it is to delete the offending article, then I would expect to a) be informed of it in advance, and b) have a legit copy of 1984 installed as soon as the ropy one was removed.

The second one is interesting, and a plus, which I should acknowledge as I may seem to be coming across as a Kindle hater here, which I'm really not. More indifferent than anything else, to be honest.

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maggieloveshopey | 12 December 2011 - 8:15pm

Nope

Anyone with an Amazon account can upload an eBook for sale in the Kindle store and, if you have such a model in place, it's impossible to screen every book in advance. In the same way that YouTube can't check if videos contain copyright material.

There is software and algorithms that can be developed to weed out plagiarism and copyright infringement, but it can never be foolproof.

But customers and publishers can report rip-offs and junk content, and customers do have the right of a refund within a certain time; even for eBooks.

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Brookster | 12 December 2011 - 8:23pm

The 1984 issue

gets trotted out, but it was a pirated version and the buyers were refunded the money. In terms of the hardware becoming redundant, the fact that we live in a world of apps makes me think that there will be no shortage of devices offering Kindle-reading apps for a long time to come. It's hardly a complex bit of software. The quote above from the Guardian "If your Kindle packs up...you're screwed" betrays that that journalist has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

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Podicle | 12 December 2011 - 10:18am

My perspective

would be that with real books, when I run out of shelf space, I get rid of them. On my Kindle, they take no space so I have them to share with Kindles synced to my account.

If my house burned down, I could get a replacement Kindle and have access to all the books.

I have yet to have a book I have bought disappear from my Kindle.

If the format changes, I would expect it to be backwards compatible. The fact that Kindle ebooks are readable on pretty much all devices that accept an app suggests to me that this is pretty simple to achieve. Amazon don't appear to me to be the kind of company to alienate a bunch of happy, loyal customers.

The business case on the Kindle, for anyone who buys paperbacks regularly is pretty good. I think I'd covered the cost of mine in about 9 months through lower priced books.

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Leedsboy | 12 December 2011 - 11:03am

Kindle....

I love mine.

It's increased my reading habits significantly - I'm sitting here having read 75 books thus far in 2011, and with a bit of effort I might manage 80 (and, yes, sad bugger that I am, I've kept a list...).

Can't sing the praises of the Kindle highly enough.

That said, I'm on my third in the 12 months since I bought it - Kindle 1 and Kindle 2 both developed hairline cracks in the plastic from the bottom right hand corner of the display. Kindle 3 I've only had for a month now but I hate to say that I'm almost expecting it to go the same way. None of the previous Kindles suffered from these cracks, but Amazon were very good at replacing...

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oktapod | 11 December 2011 - 10:35pm

Mostly good

My Kindle seems to have become a compact newspaper.

I've subscribed to the Guardian and since then I've found it's all I read on my way to and from work. There's just not enough time for anything else. I have a real book beside the bed (Sebastian Faulk's December) so I haven't read a book on KIndle for a couple of months.

I have to heap praise upon them for their replacement policy. My first Kindle packed up. When I switched it on it started opening then stopped. I had half a screen of text and half a screen of ragged black and white lines. This was on a Sunday. I rang Amazon when I got home. There was no argument and I received the replacement on the Tuesday following. I had a bit of hassle with the courier company who were supposed to pick up the old one and in the end I was advised to send it back via Royal Mail recorded delivery. They said they'd refund the postage and I've just remembered I've not chased them up. That's my fault not theirs. So doffed cap to Amazon.

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Carl Parker | 12 December 2011 - 12:01am

Unrelated agreement.

Amazon's replacement policy is damn good. As I've mentioned on threads passim and ad nauseam, I like to cook, and finally I treated myself to a new pestle and mortar the other week. Big granite bugger. Lovely. Anyway, I got it, used it once and it split in half down a big fault in the rock.

I had the replacement to my door about 10 hours after I sent the two bits back to Amazon.

Amazon are fantastically good at what they do. I know that, as a very very big business, they attract some antipathy, but when a business is as focused on being shit hot as Amazon clearly are, I can't help but be impressed.

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Bob | 12 December 2011 - 12:14am

I wholly concur.

I had a slightly annoying experience recently when an item I'd ordered from Amazon was being delivered by a third party. It being working / school hours, we were (hey, who knew?) out at the times they attempted delivery. Our options were then to travel some distance to go and collect it or to be in between dawn and sunset on the next specified delivery day, basically. There appeared to be no way to make an alternative arrangement. I therefore contacted Amazon direct and received a very prompt reply and a rearranged delivery to my work address. I've seen several complaints on the Amazon site about the particular delivery company I had problems with, which in itself is a refreshingly open and positive development.

If Amazon start to, ahem, under-deliver on the customer service front, they will find very quickly that others will willingly step into their shoes. After all, as a very wise man once said...

It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest.

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DougieJ | 12 December 2011 - 12:35am

Amazon are not afraid

of ditching suppliers who don't meet their targets. They had no hesitation in switching away from Royal Mail wholesale as a result of their late-2009 strikes, to ensure their deliveries were affected as little as possible.

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Roast Potato | 12 December 2011 - 11:45am

Newspaper

I'm much the same as you. Following a period of not buying newspapers for several years, I subscribed to the Guardian via kindle some months back. It’s fantastic and I too barely have time for anything else.

What I like about the Kindle layout for the Guardian is that all stories and articles appear to have equal weighting at first glance. This means I cherry pick based upon a headline that sounds interesting. It’s giving me a much more rounded way of tuning in to what is going on in the world. Also for the first time in my life I no longer access the sports pages of a newspaper first!

I have also used it to read various novels in the eighteen months or so since I’ve owned the Kindle. All things considered, I’m reading much more than at any other time in my life.

That has to be good doesn’t it?

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Martin Simmonds | 12 December 2011 - 10:31am

At the risk of sycophancy,

I think a certain Iberian-based blogger (who's sadly not around here as much as he once was) pretty much nailed it over a year ago...

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/all-things-must-pass#comment-32968...

Apart from the art and photography books and other objets d'avaflickthroughthis, I don't think I'd miss them if they weren't there. (The Kindle has space for over twice as many.) Will my life really be any the poorer when there are nice pictures on the walls instead of rows of spines of Rough Guides to Places I'll Never Go Back To and early James Ellroy potboilers?

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DougieJ | 12 December 2011 - 12:22am

Phone Application

I've no need for a Kindle itself. I don't see the point in buying one of these gadgets to do one thing anymore (see also digital cameras / mp3 players) when we're now heading towards the "everything box" idea. I do use the Kindle application on my Sony Xperia (smartphone) though, but I've found it's often easier to grab "books" from other sites (Project Gutenberg is good) and use them on a similar application called Aldiko. I'm working my way through all the Sherlock Holmes stories on it.

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kidpresentable | 12 December 2011 - 1:48am

Whilst not completely answering the question

(Actually, my answer would be "get one, they are ace"), here's a review of the Kindle Fire, in case anyone's interested. I wrote it for a buddy in the UK, so excuse conversational tone...

Hmm. It's ...OK... Firstly, it's basically a window to Amazon - you want their content, you've got it - one click and it's yours. I also have Prime so I can get a bunch of free TV shows and films streamed to it. It does this *very* well.

It's not a great e-reader - I mean it's fine, but my old style Kindle e-ink reader is easier on the eyes, no question. It handles pictures better, though, naturally.

Hardware-wise, I've found it to be pretty snappy, but the built-in speakers aren't great, and there's no HDMI out, so no way to stream content to your TV - even my phone can do that!. I could care less about the absense of a camera, and the screen is very good - hi res and very sharp. The touch element of it is often frustrating, it's hard to do accurate cursor positioning, and the lack of Swipe drives me mad. I'd rather do email on my phone.

The web browser is fine, no issues there. I can't seem to route to my local webserver to control my squeezeboxes - I think all requests are sent to the cloud to be rendered by Silk. (editor's note - I've since figured this out and it can be done)

Music handling is fine if you have decent speakers connected...My MP3s are in the cloud (I accidentally uploaded 20,000 to Google Music at work! Installed the software - it didn't work, so forgot about it. Checked recently, and there they all were. Work has now banned all outbound traffic apart from port 21, 80 and 443, and I can't help but wonder if...)

Ergonomically, it's light and pretty easy to hold, though can be quite slippy.

I can side-load files, but haven't managed to make anything play from my media server on it yet. You are limited to the Amazon marketplace for apps, rather than Google Marketplace, and it's a bit sparse at the moment

The one thing I wanted to do, read PDFs, was horrible with the built-in PDF browser, but a third party one was much better.

Two other irritating quirks - the only button (on/off/sleep) is located on the bottom, and I've accidentally sent it to sleep a couple of times. Also, the carousel browser is stupidly awkward and often selects the wrong things.

Oil give it foive...

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nicktf | 12 December 2011 - 3:53am

100% Yes

I've loved my Kindle since the moment I got for Xmas last year. PIt's prfect for travelling, and for carrying multiple books at once. It's permanently in the bag I always have cover my shoulder; well, other than when I'm actually reading it.

I loved the way that when I got an iPad for my birthday (yes, it's been a great year for gadgets!), it was moments' work to install the free Kindle app and "restore" all the books I'd bought. It will keep my "open page" in sync on both devices. (I've done the same on the PC, so I have two backup copies of every book.) I prefer the home page on the app to that of the Kindle itself, since it's a set of front covers rather than just a list of titles.

Technical books are often better on the app than on the device because the illustrations are larger, at higher res, and in colour.

When Peter Doggett was on the Word podcast, I was able to have a copy of You Never Give Me Your Money in my hands, on my Kindle, within minutes.

I sing the praises of the Kindle as someone who still loves the physical book, and believes a set of bookshelves the best way to decorate a wall. I still buy physical books (especially in support of independent bookshops), but usually as a second choice.

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Old_Nick | 12 December 2011 - 5:20am

101% Yes

It's much easier to carry around than a paperback, it's much better on your eyes (that's THE major plus for me, personally) and I'd say you even learn to read more quickly on a Kindle; not really sure why that should be, but I find myself racing through novels on the Kindle.

So, Yes x 101

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mikechurch | 12 December 2011 - 6:52am

The lending issue

is probably the ones that niggles me the most. However, if any Kindle owner could lend a book to any other Kindle owner in the world, this would effectively be the same as file-sharing.

I don't know what the answer is to this. Maybe the ability to transfer a book to another friend on the same wi-fi network? Something that limits your transfer in a way that's akin to a physical exchange?

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Brookster | 12 December 2011 - 10:49am

Another thumbs-up from me.

Perfect for killing time on the road, and paperbacks I don't want cluttering up the bookshelves. The ability to download sample chapters is excellent, as is the availability of collected classics for pennies. The pros far outweigh the cons, e.g. literals, occasional formatting issues. It'll never supplant the desire to collect physical versions of books by favourite authors, though.

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geebee | 12 December 2011 - 12:45pm

Kindle loans

Are available for US users - I imagine this will be broadened out to UK etc relatively soon...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200549320

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Montecore | 12 December 2011 - 8:57pm

Ace

I love books but have simply run out of space. The kindle is very easy on the eye. Browsing through Project Gugenheim or similar sites, is like being set loose in a huge second-hand bookshop. Except that you don't need dry stane dyke building skills to fit your purchases on your already full shelves.

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Lando Cakes | 12 December 2011 - 11:12pm
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