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How DID They Do THAT At THAT Age?

Bodhisattva's picture

Jackson Browne wrote this at 23. These lyrics - At 23!! Todays boy bands average age! Could YOU have written this at 23? Let alone the rest of Late For The Sky...

Then you think that the Beatles were just mid-20s and lower when they made Revolver. They'd achieved quite a bit by then to be fair. Have we wasted our lives? Other examples please.


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Andy Fraser

How old was he when he played bass on this? 17?

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Crowdedmouse | 21 October 2010 - 9:14pm

19 (and not Paul Hardcastle)

My first post - not sure if the link embeds or not.

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NB75 | 21 October 2010 - 9:35pm

Malcolm Ross

How's that for a CV? Josef K, Orange Juice and Aztec Camera. I think he drives a cab these days.

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Johnny Topaz | 21 October 2010 - 10:05pm

Jackson Browne

It's been said many a time before, but if the man was writing "Don't confront me with my failures - I have not forgotten them" at sixteen - SIXTEEN - then anything is possible.

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Lucas Hare | 21 October 2010 - 9:41pm

Laura Marling was born in 1990

...that's ...1...9...9...0...!!!!!!

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Steerpike | 21 October 2010 - 9:55pm
David Hepworth | 21 October 2010 - 9:59pm

Johnny Marr

The Smiths broke up when he was 24.

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phil spector | 21 October 2010 - 10:10pm

Sandy

I think Sandy Denny was only 18 (or perhaps younger) when she wrote Who Knows Where The Time Goes?
Eric Clapton had played with and quit both the Yardbirds and Bluesbreakers before he was 21.
Peter Green, following Clapton was also a 20 year old while Mick Taylor joined Mayall at the age of 18.

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Carl Parker | 21 October 2010 - 10:28pm

Another 24 Year Old Writes...


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Bodhisattva | 21 October 2010 - 10:36pm

Hard work

The other thing about Jackson Browne is he worked really hard at it. There's an illuminating quote in the Laurel Canyon Cowboys book to the effect that Glen Frey and John David Souther had an apartment above JB and would roll in at 5 from the Troub only to be woken at 9 by JB working endlessly at his songs on the piano down stairs. Clearly perspiration and inspiration in his case.

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Twangothan | 21 October 2010 - 11:30pm

Alex Turner

Has released four hugely popular and acclaimed albums, three of which have been nominated for the Mercury Prize, one of which has won it.

He is 24.

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Nick | 21 October 2010 - 11:39pm
stimpy | 22 October 2010 - 10:07am

It's not an age thing..

..it's an era thing.
This particular type of rock music belongs to the baby-boomers.
The post war environment they grew up in can never be repeated, some may say that's a good thing, but The Fleet Foxes could labour away for a year of Sundays and not come up with something as good as "Sweet Baby James" let alone "The Late Show"

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shane pacey | 22 October 2010 - 3:18am

Hmmm, not sure I agree

As mentioned above, Alex Turner wrote a highly impressive (brilliant IMO) album when he was 20. You might well be right about Fleet Foxes, but equally I don't think baby boomers like Freddie & The Dreamers or Gerry & The Pacemakers could ever have come up with The Arctic Monkeys' first album.

There will be another genius coming along any time now.

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kb | 22 October 2010 - 9:40am

Yep.

Fleet Foxes are unlikely to write a fabulous album because they're just not that good. I don't think era has much to do with anything, and I definitely don't subscribe to the idea that pop's greatest days are behind it. Sure, we won't have another Beatles, but everything else is up for grabs. If those four men were transplanted to the early 21st century, they'd still be just as astonishing, innovative and thrilling a band. Rather than defining the sixties, they'd define now.

OK, back to the OP: André 3000 and Big Boi were 26 when this came out.

And 28 when this came out.

In Ms Jackson's case, I find it astonishing that someone that young could write something so humane, mature and lovely. It's like an OV Wright song or something. In Hey Ya's case, I find it astonishing that anyone of any age is that good.

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Bob | 22 October 2010 - 10:00am

Wasn't George Harrison 26...

... when The Beatles broke up? Or am I wrong here?

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ganglesprocket | 22 October 2010 - 9:50am

Tim Buckley - Dream Letter

Tim Buckley was only 21 years, 4 months old when he recorded this aching, complex, mature, flat-out masterpiece:

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duco01 | 22 October 2010 - 10:04am

Eddie Cochran, Buddy Holly and The Everly Brothers

Eddie Cochran died at 21; Buddy Holly at 22. It goes without saying that their entire careers took place before their deaths.

And my personal favourites - pretty much the first music that really obsessed me - started out damn young, as this clip proves:

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Lucas Hare | 22 October 2010 - 10:10am

Oh I dunno, they've both had a pretty good posthumous career

Not as good as Elvis's post-death career of course but he, together with Hendrix, must be the masters of 'dead rock'

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stimpy | 22 October 2010 - 10:11am

what?

No one has mentioned Kate Bush. Written when she was 13, recorded at 16:

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BigJimBob | 22 October 2010 - 10:22am

No distractions

I would say that many of the above had few distractions in the form of iPhones, Facebook etc. I also believe that the welfare state was a great incubator of creativity by allowing people to do 'stuff' without having to worry about re-paying loans or taking part in Jobseeker/YTS schemes or whatever they call them now.

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mutikonka | 22 October 2010 - 10:27am

No distractions

I would say that many of the above had few distractions in the form of iPhones, Facebook etc. I also believe that the welfare state was a great incubator of creativity by allowing people to do 'stuff' without having to worry about re-paying loans or taking part in Jobseeker/YTS schemes or whatever they call them now.

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mutikonka | 22 October 2010 - 10:27am

Brian Wilson

Wrote, produced and sang most leads on Pet Sounds. He was 24, and it was his ELEVENTH album.

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dai | 22 October 2010 - 10:28am

Brian Wilson and Paul McCartney

They were born within two days of each other, in June 1942. When they were 24, it was a very good year.

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Lucas Hare | 22 October 2010 - 10:33am

Tony Williams..

let's not forget Miles Davis installing Tony Williams in his band at 17.

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Declan | 22 October 2010 - 11:14am

Michael Shrieve was 19 when he joined Santana

and 20 when he played at Woodstock. However he was an old timer by the time Carlos got 15 year old Neal Schon to join for Santana III leading to him playing on the Santana piece de resistance Caravanserai.

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Carl Parker | 22 October 2010 - 6:07pm
stimpy | 22 October 2010 - 11:34am

Surely

St Winifred's school choir bettered that? With an average age of about six they lasted longer than the Beatles (with some personnel changes of course) and produced nine albums. They started off doing backing vocals for Brian and Michael, the same pair behind Claire and Friends.


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bassclef (not verified) | 22 October 2010 - 7:32pm

Alex Chilton

Alex was 16 when he sang "The Letter", and he sang it like a seasoned pro.

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Johnny Topaz | 22 October 2010 - 1:09pm

How about this young Man!


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Mrxsg | 22 October 2010 - 7:24pm
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