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Hollywood Myths!

Richard Raftery's picture

You know how it is in films - a guy can park in a major city right outside the building he wants to enter and that sort of thing. But surely one of the greatest myths is that of the Hollywood knockout. In real life if a bloke is concussed it can leave lasting damage (tremors, speech deterioration etc). Any boxer who is KOd has to undergo medical tests. It is a serious business. But in films it is simple - a blow on the head is followed by a short snooze and then it is as if nothing happened. I have seen countless scenes where this kind of baloney occurs. What else in Hollywood (or films generally) is similarly at odds with reality?

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The first one that springs to mind...

is the enormous 'KAPOW!' sound that occurs when someone punches someone else. I have very little experience of physical violence, but I can say with little fear of contradiction that this does not happen in real life.

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Patrick Crowther | 21 July 2009 - 7:43am

"Green Street"

is COMPLETELY divorced from reality.

If you haven't seen it, don't.

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The Smamfy | 21 July 2009 - 8:11am

Hobbit Hooligan

Surely the worst piece of casting ever, Elijah Wood...football hooligan?!

A real film of football hooligans would consist of either fat, beer bellied forty somethings running around stadium car parks or 13 year olds in Burberry caps "offering out" the whole of the away end from the safety of the other side of the ground.

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Retro Man | 21 July 2009 - 8:31am

From the minute I saw that Bank Station

appeared to be "outdoors" in that film, I knew I was in for a treat.

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The Smamfy | 21 July 2009 - 8:39am

Guns don't shoot straight

Time and time again, Jimmy Bond will be running from a man who's spraying machine gun fire, yet not a single bullet ever ventures near our hero. You always see the bullets peppering the ground - even when the villainous sort is about two yards from Bond when firing.

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peterthecook | 21 July 2009 - 8:12am

going through glass windows

unscathed. Pretty much impossible I think. I have a very nasty scar to prove it.

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BigJimBob | 21 July 2009 - 8:14am

Old creaky wrinkled old men

and perky young women, with no sign of a big bank account in sight.

It's not completely impossible, but it normally involves a huge amount of alcohol...

So I've been told.

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SimonL | 21 July 2009 - 8:15am

that cars explode

from a single gunshot. just not true,don't ask how i know,i just do.

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Sour Crout | 21 July 2009 - 8:16am

The kick in the crotch

The number of times you see a man take a hefty kick to the nuts and instead of curling up in agony just come up swinging is ridiculous.
The only film I know of that shows the reality of such a low blow is the Coen brothers' first film Blood Simple.

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Carl Parker | 21 July 2009 - 8:17am

There's a fabulous scene in "Butch Cassidy..."

where Butch kicks in the nuts someone who wants to take leadership of the Hole In The Wall gang. The chap has a change of mind...

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Mark JF | 21 July 2009 - 11:50am

Of course!

How could I have forgotten that one? So there are in total two realistic Hollywood kick in the nuts scenes.

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Carl Parker | 21 July 2009 - 11:54am

Waking up

in bed in the morning hair, face and makeup immaculate. How many people have you ever woken up with that look the same as when they went to bed 8 hours earlier?

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Pinmonkey | 21 July 2009 - 8:26am

"You'll ruin that pillowcase, you daft cow!"

Also- knocking drinks back, running down the road and not getting sweaty, and "love scenes"

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The Smamfy | 21 July 2009 - 8:30am

The old classic car on the pavement scene...

The cars never seem to hit lamposts, pedestrians or large immovable objects - bit they always seem to find that big immaculately stacked pile of cardboard boxes (fruit optional).

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Retro Man | 21 July 2009 - 8:36am

and among the pedestrians there is always a man

carrying a large brown paper bag with his groceries sticking out the top. The groceries consist of a a bread roll and a stick of celery.

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Cookieboy | 21 July 2009 - 8:51am

Of course celery

Celery (when carried) has great cultural heft
http://www.lileks.com/institute/frahm/

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David Rothon | 21 July 2009 - 9:17am

Before he was famous

and he was a regular on the stand up circuit, Paul Merton had a brilliant routine about this very subject, including the fruit boxes. He also mentioned the inevitable truck reversing out of an alley and how the drivers would hear the police sirens and know this was their cue to start reversing.

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Carl Parker | 21 July 2009 - 11:53am

People walking away from their cars and not locking them

Why would anyone DO that?

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The Smamfy | 21 July 2009 - 8:57am

So that...

...a character later in the film can steal it very easily. (Usually the keys are still in the ignition too).

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Steerpike | 22 July 2009 - 10:01pm

Wrongity Wrong

Keys are always behind the driver's sun visor.

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Paul Waring | 23 July 2009 - 10:32am

Ending a telephone conversation ...

particularly in US movies, the drill is just stop talking and hang up ... no sign off, no goodbye, nothing. If I were on the other end I think I'd ring back and tell them how rude they were, or write to the Daily Telegraph about the decline in modern manners. Possibly.

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Steven C | 21 July 2009 - 9:14am

Yes!

It's not just us then who's noticed this.

The GLW and I now both instinctively end the conversations for them... "Bye!" "See you later!"

It's a laugh a minute in Waring Towers...

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Paul Waring | 21 July 2009 - 9:56am

Leaving meals and drinks

half consumed.
Any bag, crate or sack never looking heavy enough.
Hot wiring modern cars.
The fluidity and ease in which computer systems work downloading vital secrets in seconds.
plus nobody on films uses MS word in "state of play" at the end Russel Crowe seems to be writing up his vital story on some weird ancient white on black word pro(maybe newspaper still use this sort of thing).
Oh and american actors teeth are too perfect for cowboys.

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 9:20am

If someone calls you ..

... and tells you to switch on the television not only will it be tuned to the channel the caller intended, but the newsreader will be just at the point of the story where you can receive the relevant information, despite the time lag in your colleague noticing the news item and calling you.

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Gatz | 21 July 2009 - 9:36am

And don't forget…

… to turn the TV off straight after that relevant info has been given, without waiting till the end of the news report.

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David Rothon | 21 July 2009 - 9:47am

And then you...

...switch it off in disgust, even though the relevant news item hasn't actually finished.

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Albert Edward | 21 July 2009 - 9:47am

Ah…

You've spotted that too, eh?

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David Rothon | 21 July 2009 - 9:50am

Jinx!

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Albert Edward | 21 July 2009 - 10:16am

Explosions generally

People lobbing Zippo lighters onto puddles of petrol to blow up petrol stations (there's a good YouTube video where a bloke forlornly lobs matches into a tray of petrol and every single one goes out with a fizzle). The worst example had to be a Steven Seagal film I saw, where he managed to set a bloke on fire by firing a vodka-filled water pistol through a cigarette lighter.

Ditto cars rolling off cliffs and blowing up.

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Brookster | 21 July 2009 - 9:48am

that being said

vapourising petrol goes up very easily as the accident reports on bonfire night testfy so I disgree on this one i think they must be using disel!

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 10:35am

The Sideways Gun Thing

A staple of 'gangsta' movies.

At what point did Hollywood (or, indeed, real life) decide a gun was more accurate if you held it with the handle horizontal rather than vertical?

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Paul Waring | 21 July 2009 - 9:59am

I've heard cops discuss this

They find it very funny as you can't hit the side of a barn firing like that.and a lot of would be gangstas think it's the only way to shoot.

This is something I copied off the net.

The business of holding a gun sideways was thought up while John Woo was shooting his action movies. Why? It was first done to keep actors and stuntmen from getting spent brass flung into their faces. Later, people kept doing it because they thought it looked cool.

If you've seen a John Woo movie, you know the actors fire off a whole lot of blanks, and their little metal casings get burning hot. On one set, Woo discovered that the particular gun models they had purchased for the movie were spitting spent shells upward. So, to minimize the chance he'd have to suspend filming indefinitely and take Chow Yun-Fat to the emergency room with a scorched eyeball, Woo just told him and the other actors to tilt the guns sideways so the brass ejected away from them.

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Cookieboy | 21 July 2009 - 10:11am

Spooky

I've just watched a very early Sopranos episode - it's a rainy morning. I have, in fact, just watched two - where a small-time, bit-part accomplice gets told off for that same horizontal hold.

He turned the gun to the vertical, thought about it for a moment, then went back to horizontal mode. Had clearly been watching too many movies...

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nigelthebald | 21 July 2009 - 10:16am

Computers

Pressing a key; a flashing cursor… almost guaranteed to emit a beeping noise. If that really happened it would be quite annoying.

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David Rothon | 21 July 2009 - 10:07am

Typing

All that touch typing. And so fast. And never having to go back and correct bits.

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Leedsboy | 21 July 2009 - 1:15pm

tuoch tupngi

hye, sime og us rellay cbn tupe tht fassst. It's apeice of poss....

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andy white | 23 July 2009 - 3:27pm

that any man

in his right mind would choose Andi McDowell over Kristin Scott-Thomas

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Sheev | 21 July 2009 - 10:08am
Mark Godden | 26 July 2009 - 4:48pm

Women in graveyards wearing just a nightie

This doesn't really happen, does it?

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The Smamfy | 21 July 2009 - 10:12am

you don't know

some of the old Goths I know

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James Blast | 21 July 2009 - 5:05pm

The hero can take a great beating...

... without wincing, but as soon as 'the girl' cleans his wounds with antiseptic - he's all twitchy and acting like a 5 year-old.

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Reno Dakota | 21 July 2009 - 10:20am

He can get shot in the stomach

and still drive to the police station/call his wife/beat up the bad guys....

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The Smamfy | 21 July 2009 - 10:31am

* WIRE SPOILER ALERT *

Just in case there is anyone that hasn't seen the first and second series...

I was a bit taken aback by Kima's quick and miraculous recovery after being shot to bits at the end of the first series to her getting back into the swing of things at the start of Series 2.

I know, best thing on TV and all that but that was a bit hard to accept.

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Retro Man | 21 July 2009 - 11:02am
Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 11:31am

A few more.

Suitcases that dangle as if there's nothing in them.

If there's ever a cat, there will be a sound of a meow once the cat is out of shot. Most cats don't meow unless they're after something.

But the biggest reality hole has to be Emmerdale. How can a village with less than a dozen houses, not on a main road, and with no tourist attractions sustain a pub, village shop and café?

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JQW | 21 July 2009 - 11:11am

all phone numbers begin

with the 555 area code - I know it's cos it doesn't exist but still, does it matter whether they use a real code?

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badartdog | 21 July 2009 - 11:13am

If they use a real Area Code...

they'll doubtless get sued when the phone company allocates the phone number.

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stimpy | 21 July 2009 - 1:11pm

I assumed

if you phoned the number you'd be put through to a premium line selling film merchandise ... well that's what I'd do if I was evil.

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spinoza013 | 22 July 2009 - 8:57am

Ooooo...

that's CLEVER!

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stimpy | 22 July 2009 - 9:57am

A True Story

In a "Postman Pat" episode Pat makes a call. The order of the numbers he presses forms a simple pattern. Every now and again my friend is bombarded by calls from five year olds with questions about Jess. Thank you for reminding me of this. It always makes me smile.

Happily, my friend is a pleasant, middle-aged woman who enjoys explaining the difference between fiction and reality to small children. She is not going to sue over her loss of privacy. The small children's parents haven't sued yet about the mental trauma suffered.

Just imagine the possible consequences if that telephone number had connected to a person on the sex offenders' register. I know that sounds like hysteria but broadcasters should be very careful about giving out real people's contact details.

I remember the BBC's news coverage of Clare Short's resignation. They filmed her walking past a street sign. They cut to her entering a numbered, terraced house. Those shots weren't filmed by accident. They contained all the information any nearby nutter should need. Hopefully, they were all too busy making crank calls to the Samaritans that evening.

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Robin Clarke | 27 July 2009 - 11:33pm

Product placement

- slightly off topic, but I remember going to see Twister years ago, and the heroes figure out that if they can fashion a load of mini propellers from empty pop cans they can attach sensors to these which will be 'swallowed' up by the tornado and enable them to plot it's course. They gather together every can in a whole neighbourhood. Every one is a Pepsi manufactured brand. Not a single Coca Cola can to be seen.

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badartdog | 21 July 2009 - 11:17am

Internal Affairs

Spoiler alert: If you haven't seen this film yet think you may do so click away now.
There's a scene in this film when a number of police officers are standing around drinking - probably either coke or pepsi - in branded cups. All except Richard Gere, who has a plain white one, because the baddie can't be seen to be associated with a family brand.

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Carl Parker | 21 July 2009 - 12:17pm

Didn't Danny Boyle

have a similar problem in Slumdog Millionaire where they had to airbrush the Mercedes badges from cars driven by baddies?

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ivan | 21 July 2009 - 1:29pm

Computers switch on

and are at the desktop within a second of the power button being pressed.

NCIS/Law and Order type programmes have people watching video footage. Someone says stop and points at the incriminating moment on the screen (such as the bad guy walking past a window or a car driving past the camera). The thing is, in order for anyone to see it they would have to rewind the tape by a few seconds which never happens.

No one ever removes their glasses with two hands. Although in fairness no one seems to use both hands in real life.

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LOUDspeaker | 21 July 2009 - 11:24am

also they seem to be able

to zoom in and get detail from some poxy cctv camera video still my 12 mp high end camera can't capture. Remind me again why they don't ever turn on the lights in csi?

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 11:35am

Unsurprisingly...

the studios were worried about being sued by US citizens tired of getting rung by fans hoping to get through to their favourite stars.

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Charlie Gordon | 21 July 2009 - 11:28am

In The Last Seduction..

They try to knock Bill Pullman out Hollywood-style with a blow to the head with a lump of wood.

Bill goes "OW" and remains resolutely conscious.

Another reason why this is such a good film.

Thing in films which annoy me: Too many to mention. It's why I don't watch many Hollywood films. My wife gets fed up with me shouting all the time. Gets embarassing in the cinema, apparently.

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Lenny Law | 21 July 2009 - 11:51am

True Romance

I the commentary for True Romance Tarantino remarks how delighted he was when Arquette battered Gandolfini with a heavy earthenware cistern lid and it didn't break.

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Gatz | 21 July 2009 - 12:18pm

Laughing in Cinemas

I went to to watch Candyman with a bunch of mates when it first came out. They were mortified when I spent most of the film laughing like a drain (however a drain might laugh), purely because it was so laughably bad.

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illuminatus | 21 July 2009 - 12:56pm

In the middle of watching Vanilla Sky at the flicks

I proclaimed, in a clear tone, that Tom Cruise is an utter wanker. Went down well.

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The Smamfy | 21 July 2009 - 1:07pm

Poor utters.

*Gets coat.*

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Ola Claesson | 23 July 2009 - 12:42pm

I've booked

your taxi.

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The Smamfy | 23 July 2009 - 3:58pm

And

I'm driving it..

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Black Type | 23 July 2009 - 10:33pm

Be honest,

it wasn´t really THAT bad...

And I can´t fint my coat. Could we stop in Älmeboda? I wan´t to buy an ice cream. My treat.

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Ola Claesson | 23 July 2009 - 10:39pm

People can fire handguns

with incredible accuracy over 100 yards. Yeah, ok...

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Mark JF | 21 July 2009 - 11:51am

The concept of shooting to wound

and its flawless execution (no pun intended). Two things happen: a) the baddie is conveniently incapacitated and incapable of firing back / pushing the detonator / executing his hostage etc; and also b) never gets hit in a major artery thus causing him to haemorage to death in the next 90 seconds.

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Mark JF | 21 July 2009 - 11:53am

Dead bodies and background noise

Corpses that should be stiff with rigor mortis can have their limbs manipulated with ease. Impossible! Also closing the eyes of someone who just died - don't think this would work.

Funny how when there is a conversation the otherwise noisy, background is strangely muted and the speech is easily heard, whereas it should be necessary to shout in someone's ear, as in a night club or similar.

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Sven Garlic | 21 July 2009 - 12:21pm

Closing the yes of the dead

It's easy in films! All you do is pass your hand slowly in front of the deceased's face. No actual contact seems to be neccessary.

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Gatz | 21 July 2009 - 12:46pm

Ringing a doorbell...

and then ringing it again without giving the person sufficient time to answer the door. Calm down - they might be doing stuff!

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sleepytigercub | 21 July 2009 - 12:23pm

Or the flipside...

...doorbell gets rung and the door gets answered remarkably quickly, as if the occupant just happened to be walking past at the time.

While I'm here, there's the old favourite of the helicopter that is completely noiseless until it can be seen.

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Con Coleman | 21 July 2009 - 2:12pm

'What else in Hollywood (or films generally) is similarly...

at odds with reality?'

Just about everything, I've always thought. But I only let it get in the way if the film's rubbish...

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mikethep | 21 July 2009 - 12:28pm

Oh there's more...

In any foot-chase scene, one of the people being chased always stumbles and falls at some point. If there's a woman in the chased pair or group, she will always be the one to fall, and the man will help her up.

If anyone coughs, they will invariably die before the film ends.

You will rarely see anyone thanking a waiter or waitress. Notable exception: January Jones in The Three Burials Of Melquiades Estrada, where we see a bit of character development expressed through her becoming more polite to a waitress.

When anyone has to rewind a CCTV or sound recording, they always manage to rewind to exactly the right place, even if they're doing it "blind" (or deaf) - I know from experience how difficult this is.

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Theo Zoffrok | 21 July 2009 - 1:02pm

Robert De Niro..

or any other actor for that matter. How no one, in any of his films, says to him, "anyone ever told you you're the double of Robert De Niro?".

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billyous | 21 July 2009 - 1:09pm
Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 1:11pm

Touché

but that doesn't count. And no "buts...".

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billyous | 21 July 2009 - 1:15pm

In the same way that

no one in a soap ever watches a soap on TV.

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illuminatus | 21 July 2009 - 1:12pm

That new film

If a character suggests going to the cinema, it's always to see "that new film".

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Nick White | 21 July 2009 - 2:44pm

Magic Rabbits

In Brookside, if the TV was on, it always had a ficticious show called "Magic Rabbits" on. Just seemed to be silly music with hand-puppet rabbits dancing around. Bobby Grant used to laugh out loud to it.

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Austin | 23 July 2009 - 12:54am

Julia Roberts

in the pile of crap that was 'Oceans 12' has this very problem, sort of ...

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Steven C | 21 July 2009 - 2:44pm

When being chased by a nutter

and you jump into your car to escape - it will NEVER start.
364 days of the year - no problem, starts straight away and off you go - but no, never on that one day when a psycho is trying to scalp you.

How many bloody times do you see that?

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Retro Man | 21 July 2009 - 1:11pm

In films people always run upwards

you know to the place were it's hardest to escape from the top of any building....

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 1:13pm

Yes, there's always a handy

deserted warehouse/electricity pylon/building site with scaffolding but no builders/gas billowing industrial building with huge chimneys/church steeple with spiral staircase leading up to a belltower right there when you need one.

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Retro Man | 21 July 2009 - 1:22pm

Also from bitter exprience how

come I only need to brush passed the bike in the hallway with my ipod headphones and they get so tangled up in the wheeel I have top dismantle the bike to free them but the hero of any film takes at least 3 attempts to attach a grappling iron to the right ledge etc at the crucial moment.

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 1:17pm

Cups of tea or coffee

that aren't poured properly. Just half a cup and yet the recipient doesn't moan.

Oh and actors doing the actor smoking thing. Big old tense lug on the ciggie and then an immediate blow out of smoke. I'd rather they didn't smoke than do it crap.

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Leedsboy | 21 July 2009 - 1:18pm

worst brew in cinema history

Michael Caine in the Ipcress file he goes to the trouble of grinding his own beans, drawing & boiling fresh water only to push the plunger down on his cafetier the moment the water hits the grinds! He doesn't even stir it let alone let it stand for minute or 2 to let the flavour develope and all this is meant to infer that he like Len Deighton is some sort of gastronome! tee hee ;-)

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 1:26pm

Try it

Honestly, you don't need to wait. If you did it would be called "tea".

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Stan Halen | 22 July 2009 - 1:53am

Best way

is to do exactly that. Use boiling water (doesn't have to be of the boil) and leave no longer than 15 seconds before plunging slowly. Any longer and you start to infuse the bitter part of the bean. Try it. But have a full cup.

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Leedsboy | 22 July 2009 - 9:43am

but the grinds would be barely wetted

using the Harry palmer method surely a stir with a spoon would help . I use a stove top espresso dooh dah myself when it's "time to get Illy!"
ps he buys tinned mushrooms later in the film if memory serves but let's not even go there.

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Chris G | 22 July 2009 - 9:51am

I'm going to to try the

Harry Palmer method but lavazza seem to disagree!
http://www.lavazza.com/corporate/en/coffeculture/customs/article_0003.ht...

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Chris G | 22 July 2009 - 9:58am

There is a school of thought

that the only way to make decent coffee at home is with a cafetiere using fresh ground beans. All other methods, especially pressure derived methods like espresso, need professional level kit which is too big and costly for homes. That's why Italians go out for espresso.

Lavazza, of course, would have a different view.

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Leedsboy | 22 July 2009 - 10:09am

I'm loving

how this has turned into Coffee Making 101.

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The Smamfy | 22 July 2009 - 10:11am

As the proud owner...

...of a Rancilio Silvia machine and Rocky grinder, I would argue that achieving barista-level espresso coffee at home is certainly achievable.

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Fraser Lewry | 22 July 2009 - 10:24am

ahh but what blend do you use

I'm very happy with the monmouth coffee house's standard espresso blend for most occassions although I have friend who swears by ethiopian blends (they did after all invent the stuff as he never ceases to tell me, cue rant about it being called "arabica" and not "ethiopia").

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Chris G | 22 July 2009 - 10:28am

Currently

I'm drinking Black Cat Classic, but normally I'm on the Monmouth standard blend too. Apart from the taste, I also find it gives good crema.

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Fraser Lewry | 22 July 2009 - 10:42am

Freudian slip?

'standard bland'......?

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Black Type | 22 July 2009 - 11:03am

Whoops

Duly corrected.

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Fraser Lewry | 22 July 2009 - 11:07am

Interesting article on it here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/5320122/The-tea-revolution.html

Sorry can't do the fancy code bit to make the link look cool.

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Leedsboy | 22 July 2009 - 8:00pm

nice one

pity her book on how to drink contains only one page on beer!

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Chris G | 22 July 2009 - 8:07pm

Booze by Richard Neill

may be more your (ahem) cup of tea. Leaves out tea & coffee (how many puns?) and focuses on the alcohol. A good read.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Booze-Drinks-Bible-21st-Century/dp/1841881961/re...

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Leedsboy | 22 July 2009 - 8:13pm

...Which is nice.

...

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Steerpike | 22 July 2009 - 10:07pm

Interesting

I usually drink espresso from a stove-top Bialetti, but when I use a cafetierre for a longer drink I use the Lavazza method and leave it for between 4 and 5 minutes. Could it be that I've been wasting that time all these years?

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Gatz | 22 July 2009 - 10:30am

But surely

- the only way to drink it is Asda Instant with loads of milk and four sugars?

Sorry thought I was on Fray Bentos thead

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Sheev | 22 July 2009 - 10:46am

no that's half a tea spoon

of mellow bird's some microwaved skimmed milk and as much canderal as you can cope with. With half a cinnamon rice cake passed seperately

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Chris G | 22 July 2009 - 10:54am

Is there still a market for Mellow Birds?

It tastes like Satan's ringpiece.

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The Smamfy | 23 July 2009 - 7:52am

Don't you burn your lips?

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Leedsboy | 22 July 2009 - 10:12pm

when Michael Corleone

rushes up to a news stand to read the evening edition of a NY newspaper he finds his father's attack covered in depth on the front page instead of the uncritical reporting of the "news" that the second daughter of a one hit wonder/charity campaigner/breakfast tv producer being thrown out of night club (exclusive pictures on page 3...)

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 1:22pm

Maybe it was

different in the seventies, even if I´m pretty sure I´m wrong.

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2009 - 9:59am

nothing to see here

please move on

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 1:37pm

How come there is always a flat-bed truck

filled with empty boxes or other soft landing materials at the exact moment hero is required to jump from bridge on to passing traffic?

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Sheev | 21 July 2009 - 1:37pm

Fights on top of moving trains

It's a Health and Safety nightmare!

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The Smamfy | 21 July 2009 - 1:39pm

The Wire again...

I haven't got a downer on it seriously (see above "Kima's miraculous recovery" post).
Variation on a theme - they had a flat-bed boat (is there such a thing?) that happened to be passing under a bridge when baddie tried to dispose of a gun into the river, yes gun happened to land on the boat and was found thus leading to conviction etc etc - what are the chances of that?

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Retro Man | 21 July 2009 - 3:17pm

I think we can allow

narratives the odd coincidence, especially ones that illustrate a characters failure to follow orders to the last full stop and thus is brought down by his own hubris/laziness. There are number of clunky plot exposistions in the Wire too, nothing is perfect after all.
ps. Flat bed boat = barge which are indeed quite common.

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 3:24pm

Barge

That's the word!

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Retro Man | 22 July 2009 - 9:00am

When the lights are switched off...

... in the bedroom, it just goes slightly less bright - instead of pitch black.

And whenever someone comes in from the shops, there always seems to be a French stick poking out of the top of the bag.

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Reno Dakota | 21 July 2009 - 1:43pm

When in dark

apparently all you need is a small candle to reveal the whole inside of a cave complex.

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spinoza013 | 22 July 2009 - 9:04am

And when you start to explore the cave

and move about, you never accidentally extinguish the flame. Clever!

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Mark JF | 22 July 2009 - 8:38pm

wait wait

stealing uniforms I sometimes can't find things to fit in large clothing stores with hundreds of racks of items let alone in a small janitors closet

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 1:57pm

Ding-dong!

Pizza delivery men who always strike it lucky with two or more bikini-clad lovelies.

Whaddya mean, we're not talking about that kind of movie?

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kinkywolfgang | 21 July 2009 - 2:06pm

Finally a fan of Ingmar Bergman.

Cheers mate!

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2009 - 10:01am

The Driving Wheel

During interior car scenes when one of the characters is shown driving why aren't they swerving all over the road?

Because they should be. All that bloody twisting of the driving wheel from left to right.

Is there something wrong with the tracking? They need to pull into Kwik-Fit if you ask me.

If I did that in my car I'd be in a ditch within moments.

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Beezer | 21 July 2009 - 3:01pm

It was the steering mechanism

on older American cars, apparently. They really did need that much travel in the steering wheel:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main.HollywoodDriving

(Caution: The website just linked will waste the rest of your day.
See: http://xkcd.com/609/)

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keefus | 23 July 2009 - 3:53pm

Are planes easy to fly

can you really flick the odd switch, pump the odd nob and then take off in anything more complicated than say gypsy moth?
also I can't even get Itunes music files to play easily on my non apple mp3 player let alone upload a virus into a alien computer system (independence day) do aliens use usb thumb drives? I know this isn't the only inconsistency in independence day in the scene we first see Geoff Goldblums dad he's playing chess and the board clearly shows his character has already lost due to being checked by....

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 3:11pm

In my experience,

taking off in a small plane is surprisingly easy once you've got the engine started. Point it down the runway, open the throttle and it takes itself off.

Flying it once you're up there is hard and landing is all but impossible.

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stimpy | 21 July 2009 - 4:03pm

I bow to your greater experience

I have only briefly held a glider pilot's joystick but don't you need to trim the flaps or something and do all this while being shot at by the evil baddies henchman in jeeps, holding onto a young woman in small dress hanging from the door and wearing a bloody dirt smeared vest?

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 4:11pm

Chris, have you been watching Carry On Flying or something?

"I have only briefly held a glider pilot's joystick but don't you need to trim the flaps..."

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Sheev | 21 July 2009 - 6:36pm

Be grateful we haven't started on helicopters

"Come and have a look at my chopper, my dear..."

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Lenny Law | 21 July 2009 - 9:25pm

Ah, that'll be it.

basic pilot training doesn't cover the evil baddies and women hanging from the door - I think that cost extra.

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stimpy | 22 July 2009 - 8:53am

Flaming torches

never go out, do they?

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The Smamfy | 22 July 2009 - 9:51am

women in films always wear

coordinated "attractive" underwear.

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 3:13pm

It is indeed

one of the great disappointments of real life that otherwise sane and attractive women are prepared to go about their daily buiness in nether garments more suited to the Mad Bag Lady of Shalott

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Sheev | 23 July 2009 - 6:39pm

It's a comfort issue

Scanties are pleasant enough, but if one is in an office-based role whereby one is sat down all day- then comfort has to be taken into consideration.
Parties/barmitzvahs/finerals/falling out of nightclubs is another matter.

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The Smamfy | 24 July 2009 - 10:02am

Funerals -

grief and high class lingerie go together well.

Especially when we've seen the beautiful young widow getting dressed for her murdered husband's funeral.

You know - The shot of her fastening her suspender clasp to the sheer material of the stocking encasing her inner thigh. Some say that the scene goes on a tad long.

However, it's vital to plot development you see.

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Sheev | 24 July 2009 - 2:46pm

Welcome to our world Chris

I feel for you.

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Leedsboy | 21 July 2009 - 6:43pm

Dialling a number

and not only knowing any number off by heart, but getting through immediately.

Also, big big type on computer screens. Not real. I can barely make out words sitting right in front of mine.

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Five-Centres | 21 July 2009 - 3:25pm

Phones are never

engaged in films.

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Badlands | 22 July 2009 - 10:13pm

Stupid accents

In an English language film that features action based in a non-English speaking country - I'd much rather see the actors speaking the correct language and have subtitles.

Foreign people do not speak English to each other in their own countries in comedy accents that sound like Manuel from Fawlty Towers guesting in an episode of 'Allo 'Allo.

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Retro Man | 21 July 2009 - 3:34pm

We do actually.

What else would be speak?

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2009 - 10:02am

Sweden doesn't count

as you speak English far better than the majority of us English people!

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Retro Man | 22 July 2009 - 11:05am

While we´re at it

This is because someone in the early days of Swedish televison decided to opt for subtitles rather than to dub the voices (as opposed to the German´s and French´s).

Teachers in Sweden tend to take credit for this, but it really is down to the subtitling. I´ve had teachers at University level who counld´t talk proper English to save their lives. English with Finnish accent is a favourite of mine, by the way.

The English we´re encouraged to talk in school makes us sound a bit like Mrs Marple´s grandmother, though. God bless televison when it comes to keeping up with contemporary words and expressions.

I didn´t mean to have a go at our beloved school system, by the way. Yes, I know where the headmaster´s office is.

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2009 - 12:48pm

Björk

How about English by Icelandic? I could listen to Björk speak all day, it's quite remarkable - almost as fascinating as Eamonn Forde's accent!

I've been watching a couple of the new Swedish Wallander series on DVD - iriktigt bra! It's much better to watch with subtitles, the Kenneth Branagh version when they set it in Sweden and had English actors playing Swedes was a bit weird - couldn't get my head round that at all. The only redeeming factor was they had them speaking colloquial English rather than having them sound like the Chef from the Muppet Show.

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Retro Man | 22 July 2009 - 2:03pm

The Swedish Connection

Björk´s accent I find charming. I also like Karin Dreijer´s (The Knife/Fever Ray), but maybe not if she had been my English teacher

Do you like Swedish detectives stories? Since I´m in a good mood - here goes:

The Man On The Roof. Based on a novel by Sjöwall/Wahlöö, two of my favourite authors. Their characters have been dragged through an awful amount of movies, most of them just as awful as the amount. This one is brilliant though. Directed by Bo Widerberg who also did The Man From Mallorca which comes pretty close in greatness.

The Man On The Balcony is also based on Sjöwall/Wahlöö (no, not all of their books are about men located on roofs or balconies). This is directed by the older brother (Daniel Alfredson) of the guy who directed Let The Right One In (Tomas Alfredson). This doesn´t say anything about the movie, but still. The best adaptation of a series made in the mid nineties.

The Simple-Minded Murderer isn´t a detective story, but it is one of my favourite movies. Starring Stellan Skarsgård and I´m sure you have heard of him. This was the part that lead to his international career. Of course it was directed by the father (Hans Alfredson) of those two brothers that I mentioned earlier. It IS a small country.

All of the above är riktigt bra!

Next time we´ll do comedies. :)

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2009 - 10:38pm

Thanks for the tips

.

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Retro Man | 23 July 2009 - 8:37am

Just a question...

"är riktigt bra"

am I right in thinking that this might be similar in sense to

"are richt braw" (really good)?

There's lot's of Scandinavian relics and roots in English in the north and in parts of Scotland. I think that's a wonderful thing and makes English such a great language, as well as tying some of us back to our ancestry.

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illuminatus | 26 July 2009 - 5:31pm

You are right about "richt braw"!

And I thought smorgasbord was the only word we had contributed with.

Those Scandinavian "relics and roots" are thanks to the vikings of course. It´s nice to see them survive (the words, not the vikings)for what is now more than a thousand years.

Obviously there are lots of English words in the Scandinavian languages as well. Most of them hail from the post WWII era when English became the main language for music, movies and later also televison.

I´m going to Edinburgh in the autumn btw. Maybe I will make do with Swedish? :)

It was richt braw of you to spot that one, illuminatus.

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Ola Claesson | 26 July 2009 - 8:53pm

Glasgow v. Gothenburg

I always thought both cities are quite similar - both have fading docks are more down to earth and working class than their more famous capital cities. Both have a healthy interest in footie and most importantly they both have great music scenes too. The coastlines are similar too - unfortunately so is the weather!

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Retro Man | 27 July 2009 - 10:08am

As shown by

"as you speak English far better than the majority of us English people!"

surely that should be:

"as you speak English far better than the majority of WE English people!"

Not trying to be a tight-arsed pedant, just for comedic effect.

EDIT: now I'm having doubts. Perhaps it should be US, seeing as it would be correct if the actual noun [English people] were dropped. Adjudication! What little comedic effect that may have been is now hoplessly pissed against a big wall. Bah.

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illuminatus | 26 July 2009 - 5:34pm

Proud to be a tight-arsed pedant

( ;-)
Your doubts were well-founded. It should indeed be "than the majority of us English people", just as you'd say "than the majority of us".

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nigelthebald | 26 July 2009 - 6:47pm

Help! I need someone to proof read

my comments before I post! Or should that be "somebody to...."

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Retro Man | 27 July 2009 - 10:01am

guns

In shooting movies, when someone has emptied a gun of all the ammo and have no bullets left - they discard the weapon and select the next of the umpteen weapons they have on them.

Why not just put said gun pack in pocket or over back ? Guns are expensive and also discarded ones could be picked up by a minor or criminal !! And when do they get the time to put all those bullets in the magazines and are the magazines thrown away too ?

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andrewdavidlong | 21 July 2009 - 3:36pm

explosions

....and at the time of a big explosion (look out for the obligatory rocket powered oil drums) why does the actor always do a big leap and never get blown up ?!

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andrewdavidlong | 21 July 2009 - 3:40pm

Explosions

An annoying cliche at the moment is to show the person who caused the explosion calmly walking away, without looking back as the car/building blows up. *Yawn*.

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Nick White | 21 July 2009 - 3:59pm

ugly people

never fall in love in movies.
It is unlikely that a wedding in a rom-com will go off without incident.
No British film will have a normal police man as it's hero.
Have you tried opening train door windows lately even to get some fresh air let alone say your tearful goodbyes to a long lost love or drag on board an escaping buddy.
when was the last time it snowed really heavily in southern england like in richard curtis films (oh earlier this year I remember now).

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Chris G | 21 July 2009 - 3:58pm

Phones

always run out of battery just at the moment when the whole flimsy plot would collapse if someone could just get a message to the hero.

Plays and films have always relied on the audience knowing something the protagonist doesn't, and this is becoming harder to accept.

It's is going to become even more of a problem as communications improve. Soon we'll need ever-more ridiculous plot devices to make sure the hero's in-ear transceiver isn't working. Or something.

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Captain Underpants | 21 July 2009 - 5:02pm

Here's the book for you all

http://tinyurl.com/mmvror (It takes you to the book "Insultingly Stupid Movie Physics") which covers gunshots, explosions, igniting petrol, jumping, falling and etc and is a most entertaining read.

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nicktf | 21 July 2009 - 9:02pm

I've thought of another

This applies to TV series like 24 as well as to films: when the hero is single-handedly (and highly plausibly) taking out a score of baddies, the chief baddy is always the last baddie standing, and either gets offed by the hero, or escapes, despite back-up arriving and a perimeter being thrown around the scene.

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Theo Zoffrok | 21 July 2009 - 9:59pm

Why don't villains

just kill Bond when they have the chance?

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spinoza013 | 22 July 2009 - 9:09am

"No Mr Bond - I'm not expecting you to die

- I'm expecting you to provide my pension plan from a never ending franchise"

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Sheev | 22 July 2009 - 9:17am

911

Everyone who dials 911 in Hollywood gets put on hold or dismissed.

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Wrighty | 22 July 2009 - 9:39am

Surely one of the great myths is that

Tom Cruise is an actor.

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2009 - 10:04am

Relative Heights

Mention of Tom Cruise makes me realise how often flms give a false impression of how tall the actors are. Even in a film like Eyes Wide Shut, made by Kubrick who is regarded as being outside of the Hollywood system, you got the impression that Cruise and Nicole Kidman were the same height, which I don't think is quite right.

On the other hand, I had never quite realised how big - tall and broad - Clint Eastwood is until I saw him outside of the context of a film on The Daily Show. So big, that he had to sit at an angle to the desk, and looked about twice the size of Jon Stewart.

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Melville | 22 July 2009 - 10:26am

Stewart

I believe John Stewart is shortish at about 5'6" or 5'7"

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Gatz | 22 July 2009 - 10:32am

Tom cruise's shortness

the big joke about Jerry macquire is they had to find a short american footballer for Tom to act against and then all the way through the film he bangs his head on rennie zellwigger dining table lamp. How low must that table be was it filmed in yoda's living room?

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Chris G | 22 July 2009 - 10:33am

Actors' egos

are often in inverse proportion to their physcal size.

I once happened to be on the same flight as Sir Kinglsey. Great actor, but the words knob and end spring to mind.

On Cruise, think he's pretty good in Magnolia, Collateral and Born on the Fourth of July.

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Sheev | 22 July 2009 - 10:55am

Even though I started

the Cruise bashing I agree with you on Magnolia (one of my all time favourite movies) and Born On The Fourth Of July. See also Tropic Thunder. Bit apart from those he usually seems happy to just be Tom Cruise.

Altough the list of actors in Hollywood just going through the motions is quite long.

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2009 - 4:31pm

Actors "going through the motions"

that'll be Divine, that kid from slumdogs and Ewan Macgregor in Trainspotting.... *my coats already on I'm just looking for my oyster card and me ear phones...*

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Chris G | 22 July 2009 - 4:42pm

Am I the only one

who felt Slumdog Millionare was a bit "Really? You´re saying poor people can be intelligent? Tell me more, Mr Bono!"?

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2009 - 10:41pm

Submarines

Reading the Henry Allingham related thread reminded me that a guy who was a submariner in the war once told me that the Hollywood (& British cinema) way of attacking a ship was utter tosh - where the captain spots a target on the horizon, readies torpedos, fire and a minute later boom. He told me it was a really long process of estimating the target speed, distance to the target, estimating the torpedo trajectory and then manoeuvering the sub. Probably about an hour. Then you'd be as likely as not to miss as hit.
Of course that wouldn't make good cinema.

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Carl Parker | 22 July 2009 - 12:20pm

It has

the makings of a Bergman film

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Black Type | 22 July 2009 - 9:57pm

DNA Analysis

is always available within a few hours in NCIS,CSI etc. Also perfect fingerprints, no smears.

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Badlands | 22 July 2009 - 10:17pm

Same in episodes of House

where they go and "search the patient's home" and seem to get in to each property with startling ease.

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The Smamfy | 23 July 2009 - 7:56am

Why are american apartments so dark?

If I was a cop bursting into an apartment, shouting "Police!" with my gun at-the-ready - the first thing I would do in a dark apartment is turn on the lights. Instead they sneak around, back to the wall and then get shot by someone hiding inside a slatted wardrobe that they hadn't noticed because it's dark.

Generally, though - life at home with most urban Americans appears to feature the people involved sitting around in the dark with only the glow of a TV or fridge lighting the place up.

And how come people in films "max out" other people's credit cards? Sometimes, reckless offspring will take the hapless, put-upon father's credit card and go shopping. How does that work?

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Austin | 23 July 2009 - 2:05am

Credit Cards

I've always wondered that. Don't American credit cards require a PIN or signature? Even if they don't, aren't store staff suspicious when a 15 year old girl presents a card declaring her to be Mr so-and-so?

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Gatz | 23 July 2009 - 7:46am

Your US Correspondent writes...I can answer that one...

...some debit cards need a PIN, most credit cards need a signature. You can swipe at any stage in the transaction, and put your card away, only at the close of sale are you prompted to confirm the amount and sign, by which time your card is back in the wallet. In a year of spending I've not once seen even a cursory signature check.

Mrs F often uses Mr Fs CC and vice versa and we've never been stopped, queried or questioned, despite relatively unambiguously representing our respective genders.

I make very sure that I don't lose my cards...

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nicktf | 23 July 2009 - 7:32pm

Are we talking about

the same people that re elected Bush? Being fooled by a 15 year old girl should be walk in the park after that.

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Ola Claesson | 23 July 2009 - 9:35am

Do real suspects

call their high-powered lawyers immediately?
Are they always arrogant and off-hand and walk out of police interviews after 5 minutes saying 'We're done here'?

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Badlands | 23 July 2009 - 10:05am

Ah yes the balls and brains

to say something unanswerable and saunter away.

I have sometimes - but only in the bathroom mirror - hours, days, even years after the event.

But like the movies? Never. The smart one-liner, the mot juste, the perfect put-down? Like, at the time? Nah.

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Sheev | 23 July 2009 - 11:57am
Nick White | 23 July 2009 - 12:01pm

apart from "weekend"..

...

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Chris G | 23 July 2009 - 1:19pm

and 'camping'

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stimpy | 23 July 2009 - 2:32pm

or "Defend"

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Chris G | 23 July 2009 - 2:51pm

In any Hollywood climbing/mountaineering film...

...someone WILL cut the rope.

Made worse by 'Touching The Void' - finally, a mountaineering film that is authentic and gets all the gear & techniques right; and in the climactic scene, Simon Yates... cuts the rope.

D'oh!

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keefus | 23 July 2009 - 3:44pm

an MIA friend on another forum posted this

What to expect when making a movie:

1. If being chased through town, you can usually take cover in a passing St Patrick's Day parade - at any time of the year.

2. All beds have special L-shaped top sheets that reach up to armpit level on a woman but only waist level on the man lying beside her.

3. All grocery shopping bags contain at least one stick of French bread.

4. Once applied, lipstick will never rub off - even while scuba diving.

5. The ventilation system of any building is a perfect hiding place. No one will ever think of looking for you in there and you can travel to any other part of the building without difficulty.

6. Should you wish to pass yourself off as a German officer, it will not be necessary to speak the language. A German accent will do. (Take note Mr Reid).

7. The Eiffel Tower can be seen from any window of any building in Paris.

8. A man will show no pain while taking the most ferocious beating but will wince when a woman tries to clean his wounds.

9. When paying for a taxi, never look at your wallet as you take out a note - just grab one at random and hand it over. It will always be the exact fare.

10. If you lose a hand, it will cause the stump of your arm to grow by 15cm.

11. Mothers routinely cook eggs, bacon and waffles for their family every morning, even though the husband and children never have time to eat them. The Mother will not be upset by this.

12. Cars and trucks that crash will almost always burst into flames.

13. A single match will be sufficient to light up a room the size of a football stadium.

14. Medieval peasants have perfect teeth.

15. All single women have a cat.

16. Any person waking from a nightmare will sit bolt upright and pant.

17. One man shooting at 20 men has a better chance of killing them all than 20 men firing at one.

18. Creepy music coming from a graveyard should always be closely investigated.

19. Most people keep a scrapbook of newspaper cuttings - especially if any of their family or friends has died in a strange boating accident.

20. It does not matter if you are heavily outnumbered in a fight involving martial arts - your enemies will wait patiently to attack you one by one by dancing around in a threatening manner until you have knocked out their predecessor.

21. During a very emotional confrontation, instead of facing the person you are speaking to, it is customary to stand behind them and talk to their back.

22. When you turn out the light to go to bed, everything in your room will still be clearly visible, just slightly bluish.

23. Dogs always know who's bad and will naturally bark at them.

24. When they are alone, all foreigners prefer to speak English to each other.

25. Rather than wasting bullets, megalomaniacs prefer to kill their arch-enemies using complicated machinery involving fuses, pulley systems, deadly gases, lasers and man eating sharks that will allow their captives at least 20 minutes to escape.

26. Having a job of any kind will make all fathers forget their son's eighth birthday.

27. Many musical instruments - especially wind instruments and accordions - can be played without moving the fingers.

28. All bombs are fitted with electronic timing devices with large red readouts so you know exactly when they're going to go off.

29. It is always possible to park directly outside the building you are visiting.

30. A detective can only solve a case once he has been suspended from duty.

31. If you decide to start dancing in the street, everyone you bump into will know all the steps

probably not of his making, but so true

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James Blast | 23 July 2009 - 4:05pm

Great Post!

.

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Retro Man | 23 July 2009 - 4:26pm

Bloody Peasants

Regarding "Medieval peasants have perfect teeth"

Supposedly in those times, sugar (and other likely rotters of teeth) hadn't been "invented yet".

So teeth were usually good although perhaps not as straight as wot actors have.

That's that sorted out then?

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Stuart Graham | 2 August 2009 - 9:43am

In a war film

the explosives expert will be Polish and probably called Kowalski.

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Carl Parker | 23 July 2009 - 4:30pm

nonsense the greatest explosive expert

responsible for blowing up Rommels hQ without breaking the windows of the children hospital next door was called Corporal Miller!!
4mins.10 in

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Chris G | 23 July 2009 - 8:18pm

two of my own observations

ATV productions:
in 70s British TV programmes, if any actor gets into a car while there is another actor outside talking to them, the car window will always be always open

global:
all friendly alien lifeforms speak American English, it is written so it must be done

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James Blast | 23 July 2009 - 5:46pm
Cookieboy | 23 July 2009 - 7:03pm

Children in movies

are unfailingly polite and always respond to upheaval or danger by going to bed when asked just after saying "I love you, daddy" in a heart-tugging fashion.

In real life, it's more like this exchange yesterday:

Me to my son (aged 4): "you're a great boy and I love you very much"

Him in response: "Can we get that Transformers I want?"

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Sheev | 23 July 2009 - 7:04pm

Reminds me of an interview with a disabled yachtsman

He was setting off on some single-handed epic journey, but leaving the harbour he tacked or gibbed (or other sail-related thing) the wrong way, fell out of the boat & had to be rescued.

As he lay dripping on the dockside, his young son ran over and said: "Daddy, you're a RUBBISH sailor!"

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keefus | 23 July 2009 - 9:54pm

My mum taught said wee lad at nursery school

And said that he's a little shite.

Mind you, she didn't think much of dad either who remains a rubbish sailor.

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Lenny Law | 17 August 2009 - 10:20pm

My exchange with my 6 year-old daughter

Me - "Daddy has to go away for work for a couple of days. So I want you to be really, really good for mummy - and remember that I love you very much"

Her - "Have you still got those sweets?"

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Austin | 24 July 2009 - 1:49am

Guys falling...

..out of cars, then rolling for about ten yards then dusting themselves down.
My mate Gordon fell out of one going about 25mph, and broke both his arms, pelvis, and dislocated both shoulders...

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geacher53 | 23 July 2009 - 7:57pm

ALSO

Working out wot the password is on the villians computer... I can never work out wot MY password is after logging out of a dodgy site after a night on the sauce.

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geacher53 | 23 July 2009 - 7:59pm

Inefficiency

Whenever anybody makes an arrangement, they never, ever specify a time. They say "Great, see you later," or "Ok, it's a date." HOW can it be a date if the don't arrange a TIME TO MEET? It annoys me profoundly. Are they psychic?

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FlicE | 23 July 2009 - 11:15pm

Cartoon Laws of Physics

A bit Off-Topic I know, but also worth a read.

http://funnies.paco.to/cartoon.html

I do love the bits where they de-construct the form - characters removing sprocket holes, painting new frames in the 'film and interfering with the film transport etc.

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Badlands | 23 July 2009 - 11:50pm

Cars.

That tyre squealing noise that Hollywood / TV cars make when they move off or change direction. Even on dirt roads. Why doesn't my Micra make squealing noise? Maybe it would make squealing noise if I ran over a Foley artist.
Rain. It never rains but it pours. No celtic mist, no gentle rain that falls from Heaven. When it rains on screen it really pisses down. Gallons of the stuff, torrents of it pouring down in an unrelentingly biblical fashion.
Guns. Fiercely accurate handguns those. Moving target, bad light, long range. No problem. Bang. Gottem. Yeah! And when did people start holding handguns at that funny angle? I must have been asleep.
Death. People just die. Like that. Like turning off a switch. One moment alive, the next dead. Neat, clean and quiet.

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Dr.Pill | 24 July 2009 - 12:52am

Prisoners who escape wearing handcuffs

can always smash them on a handy rock as they clearly made of some brittle, sub-standard metal. Not remotely likely in real life I am informed.

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Richard Raftery | 24 July 2009 - 12:29pm

smoking a spliff

any actor in any country whilst smoking weed the spliff will be no longer than an inch

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junkiecosmonaut | 24 July 2009 - 3:20pm

less spliff

It will also be less thick than a drinking straw.

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Carl Parker | 24 July 2009 - 5:28pm

Yay for Withnail and I

I guess the Camberwell Carrot brought the average down.

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Genevieve | 25 July 2009 - 11:39am

No compass but

anyone in USA can always say which direction they
or anyone else is driving or running - 'he's
going east on 22nd, now heading south
on 12th' etc. How can they tell?

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tagbarrett | 24 July 2009 - 8:31pm

If the sun is shining

It's easy anywhere in the world if you know the time of day.

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Carl Parker | 24 July 2009 - 8:43pm

Many American cities

have a grid system where certain numbered roads run east/west and others north/south.

In Manhattan - in general - Avenues run north/south and Streets
east/west. If you're on an Avenue and the Streets you cross are increasing in number you are going north.

As a visible landmark - pre 911 - you could peer upwards and if you could see the Twin Towers - that was south

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Sheev | 25 July 2009 - 8:40pm

Over here

...it's no more surprising than turn Right at the "Dog and Duck, second left at oddbins, then right after the "Queen's Head". As there are no landmarks of significance, people get a feel for compass directions which is greatly simplified by the grid system. Of course, there are millions of traffic lights, and the dread 4-way stop to contend with

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nicktf | 2 August 2009 - 1:23am

In real life people in prison are usually

dull, illiterate, ineffectual etc. In films you will encounter a whole variety of 'characters' who scheme and manipulate their way through 'the system'.

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Richard Raftery | 24 July 2009 - 8:49pm

Ah,

but at night? Surely easier anytime to say left or
right?

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tagbarrett | 24 July 2009 - 8:50pm

The modern Hollywood woman

Start of the film: Capable, smart, sassy career girl. Only a mild vulnerability or quirk.

When the going gets tough: Screeching homebody totally incapable of decision making, defending herself or even putting one foot in front of the other a lot of the time. How come I learnt by the time I was 11 that a punch, knee, elbow or even pinch to the groin would be a better bet against a kidnapper than flapping my arms and legs around yet these women fight like they don't really mean it?

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Genevieve | 25 July 2009 - 11:44am

cf comments above about a kick in the nuts

That's because Hollywood men have what can only be described as balls of steel.

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Carl Parker | 25 July 2009 - 12:35pm

Clean cars

Cars in historical films (or TV) are always spotlessly clean

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Mark Godden | 26 July 2009 - 5:08pm

...and spaceships

One of the refreshing things about the original "Star Wars" was that lots of the spaceships were grubby, clapped out old bangers that needed constant work. Why does the future have to be gleaming white?

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Nick White | 26 July 2009 - 5:13pm

For those of us who grew up in the 50s

THIS is the future - where's my silver suit and personal jet pack I was promised?

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stimpy | 27 July 2009 - 1:52pm

you can buy your own

jet pack if you really wnat one, silver suits depends what you mean most fleeces are made of recyled plastic bottles and I've seen waterproofs in silvery shades i juts think we didn't want them.
As to the rest of cliched tomorrows world :Every day people neck millions of supplements pills as part fo their diet.
wrist watch tv's are here except they are on your phone (that goes into your pocket) that phone can show maps, take pictures, films stuff and send it across the world, look up information and yes even make phone calls.
The future is not a bad place it's not quite a jetson hover car heaven but to be frank that world always looked a tiny bit dull anyway.

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Chris G | 3 August 2009 - 10:15am

THUNDER AND LIGHTNING

Thunderclaps that happen at the same time as the flashes of lightning that are related to them--no delay between the two whatsoever. You see this all the time. It's as if, in every film, every thunderstorm is directly overhead.

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Clownboy | 26 July 2009 - 5:54pm

Somebody stole my thunder

It's often the very same thunder - the Castle Thunder sound effect:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_thunder_%28sound_effect%29

See also:
The Wilhelm Scream: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_scream
The Goofy Holler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goofy_holler#Goofy_holler
The Tarzan Yell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarzan_yell
The Universal Telephone Ring

The "TV Tropes" website is an interesting read that relates to this thread: www.tvtropes.org

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Nick White | 26 July 2009 - 6:45pm

PLAYING MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS

Especially for those that require the use of a bow, if you get a frontal view of an actor playing one, it's instantly obvious they're faking. It's impossible to look like you're actually playing one if you don't know how. As a trained cellist, I cringe every time I watch the scene of David Bowie playing the cello in "The Hunger."

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Clownboy | 26 July 2009 - 6:04pm

Doctors can diagnose critical injuries in seconds

They wave a stethoscope in the general direction of the incoming patient and immediately diagnose "a flail chest with collapsed lung and paradoxical breathing." A huge list of investigations will be ordered which will be done immediately by the abundant the nursing staff in attendance. I could go on...

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floydian1 | 26 July 2009 - 7:38pm

That pensive middle-distance look...

...usually after someone has left in dramatic fashion.

Also, phone conversations where questions are helpfully repeated back. No-one ever just says yes or no like they would in real life. OK, dramatic licence!

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DougieJ | 26 July 2009 - 8:26pm

I might have shared this before ...

... in the dreadful film "Deep Impact", Tea Leoni knows that an asteroid is hurtling towards earth, meaning certain doom for the planet in about 15 minutes. At this point, she decides that she must see her estranged father. Natural impulse - nothing wrong with that.

But she goes into the street and hails one of many available taxis! Now, I admire the average taxi driver's devotion to their job - but surely in these circumstances, taxi cabs would be thin on the ground?

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Austin | 27 July 2009 - 5:05am

Brilliant disguise

Being able to pass yourself off as an identical facsimile of someone else by using only a prosthetic mask.

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johnlyons121 | 27 July 2009 - 6:23pm

No-one ever mentions this but...

...all snogs in films are done without dribble-strings, toothbangs, chewing gum removal or clumsy left-right negotiation. Furthermore, bouncy girl-on-top "lurve" scenes never have those bits where the man's tummy boomerang pops out of his ladyfriend's passion-purse, or those occasionally excruciating moments where it gets bent from having her sit funny. Dare I also mention the complete absence of the fanny fart in the history of "romantic" cinema? Too late...

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Anonymous (not verified) | 2 August 2009 - 12:09am

Oh, and ninethly...

...Hollywood man-to-man urinal conferences are short, sharp, "unzip-piss-rezip" affairs with nary a trace of leakage. You never here an on-screen tinkle sound, you never see them attempting to propel that pink soap thing from side to side with their weestream, you never see them looking at an imaginary object in their side vision to avoid accidentially checking out their friend's peepee, and everyone forgets that once you get past 40, every loo visit consists of 1 part actual urination to 4 parts frustrated rocking back-and-forward to let people know that you're a bona-fide waiting wee-wee'er and not a cottager, and 5 parts largely-fruitless shakification of your after-dribble.

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Anonymous (not verified) | 2 August 2009 - 12:28am

Nice urinal moments there

A friend of mine once shouted "hello sexy!" and gave me a playful wolf-whistle in a packed gents toilet in Hyde Park one summer afternoon. I pretended - quite convincingly I thought - that I had no idea who he was and other blokes in there were preparing to square up to him. I have never seen a face that was more red than his. Cackle.

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Austin | 2 August 2009 - 1:03am

A mate of mine

got an electric shock from a faultily connected hand-dryer. He was stunned and fell to the floor. Luckily, he got back on his feet pretty quickly.

Good job it was not more serious as me giving him mouth-to-mouth on the floor of a Gents on Weymouth seafront was, frankly, not an option

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Sheev | 2 August 2009 - 6:20am

When someone is on the run...

...they duck into a nearby car , and INSTANTLY start it up and are on the go !
What , nobody in movies went to driving school , let alone anything else , where they tell you " Always lock your car and CERTAINLY don't leave your keys in !!!!!!!!! " ?
I once read something regarding someone telling Ian Fleming that , every time someone is KO'd , they throw up - vomit - upon waking up , and , IIRC , he hence had James Bond do that every time Mr. Bond " woke up " in the novels .
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John Asperger | 8 August 2009 - 10:35pm

Poor old Bond

would have ended his days somewhat shaken and quite possibly a little stirred. A regular stumble-bum with loss of memory, peculiar gait and strange speech patterns. Not like Sean Connery at all then really?

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Richard Raftery | 9 August 2009 - 7:36pm

bad soft porn

I've never witnessed this myself on TV but it is said that in a lot of soft porn movies, where the 2 protagonists are engaged in intercourse of a canine fashion, the male usually looks like he must have a member shaped like a 12 inch hinged banana in order to achieve the penetration of the female from the position adopted on the bed or couch. most implausible indeed.

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rocker43 | 9 August 2009 - 8:17pm

'Never witnessed this myself'

... we'll have to take your word for that won't we?

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Richard Raftery | 10 August 2009 - 6:14am
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