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Holiday shockers...biggest rip-off?

peterthecook's picture

Once again, it's Summer holiday time for many of us, and I've just returned from a trip to Paris.

Prior to the trip - and being something of a seasoned campaigner when it comes to the French capital - I was determined not to pay over the odds in any of the 'charming' cafes. Did my plan work? No. I still somehow ended up paying 18 euros for 2 badly poured pints of beer, despite having passable French-speaking skills and a Paddington Bear-esque hard stare.

I'm always respectful when I go abroad - I attempt to speak the language and am careful to remember local customs, etc, yet I've had my fair share of being ripped off at various points.

Does anyone have any horror stories of paying well over the odds in some foreign climb?

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All you need to do to experience the biggest rip-off

possible in the realm of the holiday industry is to book a flight with Ryanair.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 20 July 2009 - 12:35pm

I can't argue with that

I'm amazed that Ryanair are still in business. Stories of the surcharges and hidden costs abound, yet people must still believe that the offer of a flight to anywhere for a £1 (or whatever the the latest offer is) or they wouldn't be filling the flights.

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Carl Parker | 20 July 2009 - 12:42pm

Thirded

They are terrible at milking the Warsaw Convention on damaged baggage. They killed my mates mountain bike (run it over on the ground where its debatable that the convention applies) and basically offered about £70 for it. Of course ignoring the fact that less weight = more money on bikes.

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Leedsboy | 20 July 2009 - 1:00pm

Fourthed

If your luggage is one ounce over the limit which is two ounces per person then they charge you two thousand pounds for every ounce over.

Michael Leary bumptious obnoxious CEO of said carriers received a strongly worded letter from me following an unbelievably crappy level of service on a flight from France.

He likes to talk robustly so my letter was couched in terms robust. To quote, Corporal Jones "they don't like it up 'em".

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Sheev | 20 July 2009 - 2:50pm

The really frustrating thing about Ryanair...

....is that even after you've survived their assault course of a booking form, dodged the online check-in grenades, ducked the cluster-bombs of baggage charges & handling fees and tried to the find the one piece of plastic in all christendom that doesn't incur a million-pound credit card charge, they still work out cheaper than most. Flying to Valencia next week and their final costs were significantly cheaper than any other carrier. Why they don't just advertise those as the actual fares and employ staff with a wafer-thin veneer of actually giving a f*ck about their customers - it could just catch on.

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Chris | 20 July 2009 - 7:35pm

But then...

But then you get on the plane to face that rinky-dink music that they play over and over and over and over again while you sit there waiting for the last Neanderthals to drag themselves out of the bar to take their seats just as they start to offload their suitcases, without so much as a minor acknowledgement that they've kept the whole plane waiting. To make your wait so much more pleasant - as your back sticks to the delightfully plasticised seat - they offer you a chance to buy a lottery ticket every 30 sodding seconds or so...

...aaaarrrggghhh!

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Red Umpire | 20 July 2009 - 8:15pm

Hence

my decision ever to flying with the bilking bastards. All of the evidence herein only serves to confirm that.

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illuminatus | 27 July 2009 - 3:58pm

Bilking pays

It doesn't look as though they are going out of business any time soon:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/profits-soar-at-ryanair-...

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Carl Parker | 28 July 2009 - 12:27pm

Not a rip-off as such (as it's the norm there)

but as much as I love the place the beer prices in Sweden are ridiculously high - certainly not a place for a stag weekend!

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Retro Man | 20 July 2009 - 12:44pm

Food rip-offs!

Once paid £47 for a breakfast of 2 orange juices and 2 hot chocolates with churros on the Ramblas in Barcelona. I challenged the bill to told "Yes the bill is correct but expensive". What really hurt was that breakfast was in our rate at the hotel but my 6 year old daughter had wanted to eat out. The mood was lightened when I was stood at check-in that night at the airport and recognised one of the other customers who had also challenged his bill that morning. He told me it had been just as expensive when he had been there the day before!

Also somehow managed to pay just over £100 for a meal for four at a hawker centre in Singapore, where you can eat like a king for £5 each. The meal was fabulous which was our only consolation.

I sometimes think you get into holiday mode or I must just have mug written on my face.

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Pinmonkey | 20 July 2009 - 1:15pm

You didn't pay over the odds : those are the odds

I was staying in central Paris in April, and wherever I went , whether it was the Louvre or the Irish bar, the cosat of what passes for a pint was 7 Euros minimum. The cheapest beer was at the airport, of all places.

Paris is the wrong place for a cheap drinking holiday at the best of times, even before you factor in the lousy exchange rate.

If you want guidance on beer prices, try here : http://www.pintprice.com/

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Doods | 20 July 2009 - 1:55pm

Yes, but...

Yes, Paris is generally very expensive for drinks (as I said, I've been before) but the cost of a beverage in said venue was on the price list. Even taking into account service charge, we'd been truly diddled.

We actually rented an apartment from a friend, so we tended to buy drink from local supermarkets, where - to be fair - it's very reasonable. I agree that it's not the place for a drinking holiday if you're going to bars, but you can get a decent sparkling wine for a few euros in the corner shop.

Try the Paupers Guide to Paris for good places to eat; it's been highly recommended by a few people.

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peterthecook | 20 July 2009 - 2:15pm

Beijing

Managed to pay the equivalent of £5 for a half pint bottle of Heineken in an "international" hotel when the little shop next to the hotel was selling 5 x 1 pint bottles for £4.

Similarlly in another "international" hotel in Ecuador I was charged $70 for 3 double whiskeys (about the average weekly wage of a middle class Ecuadorian).

At the other end of the scale I have eaten like royalty in India for less than a fiver for two of us.

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Neil Dyson | 20 July 2009 - 2:36pm

£37

for 2 ice creams, a cup of coffee and a small can of sprite, in Rome this April.

They certainly saw us coming, but to be fair, the ice cream was delicious and doused in alcohol. This was in a beautiful, small square where tourists were easily cornered, other places weren't so bad.

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inky miss | 20 July 2009 - 2:41pm

Rome as well....

we ordered 2 pizzas, 2 cokes, 1 coffee and 1 ice cream. 64 euro!!(can't figure out how to type euro sign!!)

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humphreym | 20 July 2009 - 3:02pm

Alt + Ctrl + 4 should do the trick humphrey...

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Red Umpire | 20 July 2009 - 3:38pm

No joy...

with that! Have tried a few things now but still can't figure it out! I have a macbook, one of the 13" aluminium ones.

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humphreym | 20 July 2009 - 8:15pm

Ah!

You'll be wanting to swap that for a PC then mate...!

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Red Umpire | 20 July 2009 - 8:30pm

Nope....

I'm firmly in the Mac camp!!

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humphreym | 20 July 2009 - 9:42pm

In that case

try Option+Shift+2, apparently...

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Red Umpire | 20 July 2009 - 11:06pm

Next time go to Bari...

you can get a 10 inch pizza for €4. The best I have ever eaten.

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Patrick Crowther | 20 July 2009 - 7:19pm

We actually found...

a place the next night that was excellent! Full of locals, and everyone sharing tables. We tried to converse with our small bit of Italian, but it was a struggle! They found the fact that we spoke English hilarious!

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humphreym | 20 July 2009 - 8:18pm

I actually laughed out loud (old meaning) once

when I received a bill for something approaching £100 in Venice for two club sandwiches and two cokes some time ago.

Frankly, it could have been closer to £200. I couldn't really tell as it was in Lira days and there were so many noughts that I was getting a little cross-eyed.

I didn't really mind as that was in our "Dinky" as opposed to "Sitcom" days - and we were on the terrace of a hotel overlooking the Grand Canal on a beautiful Spring day and there are few finer locations known to Man.

Once you do have kids - of course - you can forget ever having a cheap holiday again - condemned as you are to travelling only at certain times.

The adoption of the Euro (particularly in previously inexpensive destinations) and the near parity with the pound of late doesn't help.

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Sheev | 20 July 2009 - 3:06pm

Disneyland Paris for 5

Two nights in Disneyland Paris Hotel (not one right in the middle, the next tier out) = €730.

Plus, two-day-two-park entry tickets = £400

And I haven't bought a burger and an ice cream yet....and it doesn't include price of Eurostar.

So a grand for 2 nights basically... feckin' ridiculous.

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kb | 20 July 2009 - 3:55pm

A week in Center Parcs Holland peak season

costs less. In a decent spec villa for 5 with home cinema and funky furnishing. And £50 for the return ferry journey.

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Leedsboy | 20 July 2009 - 4:02pm

Yes, ticked that one off

And there are many many things that a grand would buy! If it wasn't a one-off, feck-it-they're-only-young-once trip, it'd be a no-no.

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kb | 20 July 2009 - 4:33pm

You're making me feel much better

€400 for a bottle of vodka at Pacha in Ibiza seems a real bargain now

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Freddie Owen | 20 July 2009 - 4:45pm

Come to

Cape Town. Cheap cheap! £1.20 a pint. £1.80 for tabs. Meal for 2 with a bottle of great sa wine for under £30. Lovely b&b's from £15 upwards. I should become a travel agent!

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Darthfarter | 20 July 2009 - 6:55pm

It is

a truly marvellous place,

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Leedsboy | 20 July 2009 - 11:04pm

Courchevel

In the French Alps is legendary for the scandalous prices charged. My record one was when I was handed a bill for €150 for a beer and a vin chaud. I questioned this and the waiter apologised profusely and brought the proper bill for a less ridiculous €15. He'd pressed the "Russians" button on the till by accident, he explained. In lots of bars, this is the norm. They all loathe the Russians and rip the eyes out of them in prices in the hope that they'll go away. The local chamber of commerce wouldn't let Roman Abramovitch buy a chalet there at any price.

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Lenny Law | 20 July 2009 - 7:52pm

It helps when you have "people on the ground"

We have friends in Prague and Barca who know the best, and least rip-offy places, to go to achieve major levels of trolleydom at the least cost.
The good thing about th'interweb now is that there are a lot of independent review sites that will warn you of places that will try to get a second mortgage out of you.

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The Smamfy | 20 July 2009 - 7:59pm

Rome, Venice, Madrid, Barcelona etc

I've been to all four in the last couple of years, and never paid anything like these prices. Just avoid the tourist hotspots.
I did get my wallet nicked in the Rome metro, though

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Mark Godden | 20 July 2009 - 8:54pm

Pie, chips and a pint.

€24.95. In, er, Dublin apparently.

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skirky | 27 July 2009 - 3:28pm

On the plane over

a packet of shortbread designed for dwarf starfish, a bottle of water (small) and a cup of tea - £6.50

"We accept Euros too" grinned our attendant siren of the skies.

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Sheev | 27 July 2009 - 3:37pm
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