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Hitler Workshop Extender

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Before anyone says TMFTL, I need advice on how to make Mr Mandy's life complete - ie let him watch the contents of the dreaded Hitler box (Sky) on the little telly in his workshop.

Has anyone used one of those wireless TV extenders, and do they work?

(I've put our set-up/constraints in the comments below)

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This is what we've got ...

Things to consider:
- it's a bog standard Sky box, no + or HD, not connected to a phone line
- I'm not coughing up for multiroom (there's no requirement to watch two different channels at once)
- the workshop is in the house, not far very from the living room where the HB lives
- the workshop telly is currently an analogue (plus handy built in VCR & DVD) but could be upgraded to digital if that's needed.
- I've heard that the remotes from some extenders don't change the Sky channels in the second room, but that's not a showstopper

Any advice? There are some really cheap Philips ones in a local PC World clearance outlet.

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millymollymandy | 31 December 2010 - 12:56pm

I can't help...

But your 'Hitler Box' title intrigued and amused me...

Is this a reference to the plethora (glut) of 1933 to 1945 related docs on said device? I mean Rupert Murdoch ain't that bad, is he?

As a stand-up on Mock The Week once said, "Dear History Channel, OK, the Nazis were bad. We get it."

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Adman | 31 December 2010 - 1:05pm

Hitler Box

It's a combination of anti-Rupert sentiment (grossly out of date, I know, but fun to keep going, just for the hell of it), and the fact that on any night of the week, a good old Hitler/Nazi reference can be found on just about any of their documentary channels.

My recent favourite was "Nazi UFO Conspiracy". If it had only included a reference to two-stroke motorbikes, it would have been Mr Mandy's perfect programme.

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millymollymandy | 31 December 2010 - 1:15pm

NUFOC

was great, next band I form is going to be called Nazi UFO Conspiracy, I'm working on a logo as we speak.

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James Blast | 31 December 2010 - 5:39pm

I'm sure thats a

Fall B side, yes. It was released along with 'Nazis on the Moon?' and
'The Alpine Dedoubt Myth'

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DogFacedBoy | 31 December 2010 - 6:23pm

You're kidding?! What did I miss?

I never watch these things, just mock them loudly, whilst flouncing out with a worthy book under my arm (when I'm really just going to log on to this blog, of course).

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millymollymandy | 31 December 2010 - 6:22pm

Q: Or could there be a more sinister explanation?

A: Ummmmmm, probably not

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DogFacedBoy | 31 December 2010 - 6:25pm

Hitler Workshop Extender

has to be the great lost Fall track doesn't it?

Ms Molly - not an expert but I think it's pretty straightforward. All you need is a Sender. Don't even think you need to upgrade telly to digital - although now is probably a good time as lots of bargains around

Selection of Senders below at Amazon

http://tiny.cc/cjg6f

Hope this helps

Oz

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Ozmium | 31 December 2010 - 1:24pm

Looks promising

Thanks Oz - some of those look just the job, particularly the newer ones on 5.8Ghz if they avoid some of the wifi interference issues.

PS As an ex-chemist, love your name - no metal heavier.

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millymollymandy | 31 December 2010 - 1:40pm

um,wow, thanks Ms Molly

your chemistry knowledge is interesting as I chose the name randomly as if there is one form of music I cannot stand it is metal, heavy or otherwise! Hope you have fun with your Sender.

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Ozmium | 31 December 2010 - 7:14pm

Before the other science pedants get here

I should point out that the metal Osmium (Os) is actually the densest element in the periodic table - but I've always preferred to think of it as the heaviest metal there is. Your "z" just makes it even more rawwwk!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmium

Ask Fraser and I'm sure he'll let you change it to something more in tune with your musical tastes - eg. Gadolinium (Gd) sounds a bit prog.

Now there's a thread destined to die at birth - "match your musical taste to the appropriate chemical element".

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millymollymandy | 31 December 2010 - 7:50pm

Surely Osmium really needs an umlaut

to emphasise it's heaviness.

Never understood why George Clinton chose to name an album 'Osmium' though.

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stimpy | 31 December 2010 - 9:38pm

We have a Sky Magic Eye to allow the Stimpettes to watch Sky

upstairs. It allows them to change channels from upstairs but both sets have to watch the same channels. The key thing is that it ISN'T an analogue sender but a proper digital gadget. The picture on the second TV is as good as the main TV.

My local Sky installer did it for me - cost about £30 all in. It's this sort of thing: http://www.sky-remotes.com/sky-magic-eye.shtml

EDIT: Both TVs are analogue.

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stimpy | 31 December 2010 - 1:58pm

A geek writes

I've used an AV sender to good effect but I'd cough up a bit extra for a 5.8Ghz model. The bog standard 2.4Ghz versions can cause havoc with other devices operating on that frequency like wireless routers & phones. Picture quality will be a shade blurry too, but standard definition Sky isn't pin-sharp anyway.

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Graham Johns | 31 December 2010 - 1:51pm

Use cables

If you're of a DIY bent at all then I would use cables. The wireless spectrum can be very noisy and if any neighbours are also using similar items (phones, bluetooth and microwaves use the same frequency) you may have problems. You only need a bit of coax with a connector on each end (no soldering necessary of you get the right ones. Then, as Stimpy says, get a magic eye (about a fiver or about 15 with a remote http://cpc.farnell.com/1/1/48091-remote-elec-eye-silver-psg02629-pro-sig...). You need to connect to the second output of the sky box and enable it via the setup menu. What the magic eye will do, that a sender won't, is to adjust the aspect ratio of the picture out of the sky box automatically which is very handy if the second set is an old 4:3 set.

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JohnW | 31 December 2010 - 3:37pm

Trip to Maplins

I reckon tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestions.

The Magic Eye solution would be good (and cheap), Stimpy, but I think the two TVs need to be connected through an aerial / coax connection, and the workshop telly only has a mini plug-in aerial at the moment.

I'll go with the 5.8Ghz AV sender suggestions. Don't think there will be any concerns about blurry pics though, Graham, as the workshop TV screen always has a veneer of oil & swarf anyway!

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millymollymandy | 31 December 2010 - 3:40pm

Dangerous place Maplins

especially on a wet Sunday afternoon---in consequence I currently have one of these

http://go.iomega.com/en/products/network-storage-desktop/wireless-data-s...

upstairs at the FPO's which I "just had to have"--probably destined to become a print server for her laser printer

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SpaceBoy | 31 December 2010 - 4:02pm

You only need one aerial for everything

If you've got an aerial plugged into the Sky box then the second television will use that instead of any aerial that is currently plugged in. If there's no aerial available to the Sky box then you could always plug the mini one into it.

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JohnW | 31 December 2010 - 4:06pm

But they do need to be connected by a cable

which is the problem, as they're at opposite sides of the house. (Sorry, my comment about the aerial was confusing - OK, just plain wrong. Guess I'll play my girly "get out of techy jail free" card now.)

We have considered an "up through the attic and down the other side" set up, but decided to wait until it was warmer before attempting that (plus, there's spiders up there...)

Good suggestion though, if they were closer.

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millymollymandy | 31 December 2010 - 6:30pm

I know it's overkill for this

but does anyone here use a Slingbox ? Curious about well they work for such purposes

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SpaceBoy | 31 December 2010 - 3:46pm

It's working!

Thanks to all for your advice. We went for this - http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=264419 - currently on offer for £50.

Left Mr Mandy to set it up but heard plaintive cries of "these instructions are rubbish" as he was about to abandon it as a bad job. On inspection, we found he'd forgotten to turn the transmitter & receiver on...

Still not got the ideal set up - need to work on aligning the transmitter & receiver to try to avoid large intervening objects (walls, lathes, central heating boiler etc) to get better reception, but definitely worth persevering.

Been a techie afternoon - also set up remote assistance for my Mum's PC (no more excrutiating phone discussions about which button to press) and a wireless printer, located next to my PC upstairs. Mr Mandy's just proven the printer's worth by sending a document to it, from his laptop downstairs - it says "Dinner will be ready for 1930hrs!!!"

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millymollymandy | 1 January 2011 - 8:25pm

Funnily enough

just yesterday got the Iomega box from Maplin that I mentioned above to work on wireless printing, and on serving our photos up so we could watch them on the big telly downstairs-courtesy of a fantastic Z series Sony laptop that Herself now has (built in HDMI, Windows 7, nice toy).

When it all works, Century 21 is pretty good isn't it ... I may yet graduate to one of these

--- http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/gadgets/?p=257

at least for my flat ...

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SpaceBoy | 2 January 2011 - 10:49am
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