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Hibernia? Hibernia?
There I was, happily sat in a comfy chair with the latest issue, having a jolly old time as always, when I was quite literally* shaken to my very core.
Andrew Harrison referred to Oor Wullie as 'Hibernian'.
Now, I am no more of a pedant than the next member of the Massive - which is to say that I am an enormous pedant - but this kind of error makes me grind my teeth. Oor Wullie, as any fule kno, is Caledonian! He's Scotch, a Jock, a Kiltie, a Lochside Pedestrian, a Teuchter, a Brigadoonie - call him what you will, but he sure as Cullen Skink ain't no Hibernian.
Imagine my shock when I discover that this is not the first time that my beloved Word has made this mistake. Lo and bef**kinghold, as if misnaming one Scottish icon was not enough, it turns out that an earlier issue uses the same latin epithet to describe Groundskeeper Willie. Jings, Crivvens, Help Ma Boab!
I suggest that Mr Ellen employs a celtic subeditor to ensure that no more mistakes of this nature occur.
*Not actually literally, but I was jolly upset.
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was going to point out this myself...
..but you've beaten me to it. Is Oor Wullie a teuchter though? (I ask in all honesty). My impression was that he was a upside-down pail perching inhabitant of the central belt (or Dundee).
Apologies
Good point: Wullie is no Teuchter. Please remove this term and replace with 'Jute-Bagger'.
Careful...
Some of us work for the Cooncil in Dundee. Well, I do. But for how much longer... Public sector, eh?
Don't get me started...
...about the Public Sector. (I speak as a UK Hibernian - and that description is purely geographical, not in any way political!)
But getting back to Wullie... I've never heard this Teuchter word before, but if its something to do with pinning down - sorry, 'doon' - Wull's geographical position, I seem to recall he occasionally refers to Auchtermuchty (one of the few actual locations mentioned in the strip - at least in the vintage era). Does that give any clues...?
Teuchter is a term used in Scotland to describe Highlanders.
Some consider it a bit offensive. But as I have written below on what I think the word means, I really don't. But then again I'm not a Teuchter, so what do I know? Hell, the term "jock" and the notion of a "munchie box" don't annoy me either.
I always thought Oor Wullie and The Broons were both from outside Dundee. Fife isn't too far from Dundee though, so that's perfectly plausible as a location.
Teuchter is a term used in Scotland to describe Highlanders.
Some consider it a bit offensive. But as I have written below on what I think the word means, I really don't. But then again I'm not a Teuchter, so what do I know? Hell, the term "jock" and the notion of a "munchie box" don't annoy me either.
I always thought Oor Wullie and The Broons were both from outside Dundee. Fife isn't too far from Dundee though, so that's perfectly plausible as a location.
Michty!
*hesitantly raises hand*
Please, sir.. What defines a Caledonian, a Hibernian and all the rest? Locale? Clan allegiance? Religion?
The Romans...
A picture paints a thousand words. Have an oop.
Good work , Gauntlet.
Don't get me started on the borders though.
What the f*ck!
No mention of Cambria!
or Coheid
(sic)
Ho,ho,
hee,hee.Have an arrow straight from darkest Wales.
Jings!
I'm glad someone got it, have an extra Crivvins up arra!
Splitters!
Ah yes, evidence of the Roman Boundary Commission.
Even they hated Cavan and Monaghan and probably had their holiday villas in Gweedore. Quite right, too.
I imagine there were protest mosaics on the floors of West Belfastium even then.
*not being wholly serious here*
- Grabs hard hat and takes cover
a question for those who care
We all know where the Highland Line is.
But where is the Teuchter line ?
(Some have it as Argyle St, some place it around Crieff)
Thoughts welcome
Just north of Springburn
I believe
I always considered that as north of the Antonine Wall...
...Which is the lesser known wall, north of Hadrian's in the central belt. Teuchter, as I understand it means fighter (I could be wrong here) so it's reasonable to assume that the even scarier people who needed an extra wall are the Teuchters.
Plus the Antonine Wall is near Croy, where all the bullies of my high school came from. Stands to reason.
Watch it...
My dad is from Croy and he is a lovely man.
Fact - the inhabitants of Croy are collectively known as 'Crojans'. Why they haven't erected an enormous wooden horse somewhere in the vicinity is beyond me.
As is my mum.
So is your dad a Crainey or a Canavan? I seem to recall most of Croy had one surname or the other. Although judging by your "handle" Coleman seems like a likely guess...
Fulla Tims, innit?
I worked in the 'Nod (Cumbernauld) for 4 years in the 80s and I was informed it was populated by Kafflicks.
I did ken a Danny Crainey from there, not the most polite chap I've ever encountered.
Teuchter
As a weak and feeble Australo-Hibernian, innocent of the ways of the world, how should mortal man pronounce "Teuchter"?
Can it be done without a mouthful of phlegm?
For you Aussies
You pronounce it -chook
(as in chicken) and -ter (the syllable that usually proceeds 'poof' in Australian discussions of English opening batsmen).That's always been my understanding of it
Chookter
Maith an fear!
Teuchter
I have always pronounced it Chew- k - ter.
A friend at work is one, known as the Highland Hillbilly.
Phlegm is a necessity
Otherwise you are on the short and slippery slope to saying 'Lock Lomond' or 'Ocktermuckty,' which simply will not do.
Oor Wullie
lives in Auchenshoogle!
And I've always thought of Stirling as being the teuchter line.
The Broons
Some things I've always wondered:
- What year are they currently living in? They dress in duds circa 1953, but sometimes Horace logs into a PC.
- How many rooms are there in No 10 Glebe Street? It must take up a whole floor.
- Where is the But an Ben? (What IS a But an Ben?)
A twa-roomed hoose
Aside from the eternal question of 'When the hell are the Broons?', a but n' ben is a two-roomed cottage: one room is the but and the other the ben. Don't ask me how the entire Broon clan fit into this howf.
The Broons are clearly not Glaswegians, otherwise they would be going to the but 'n' ben but.
Michty Me!
Thank you, Con.
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Hibernia definition
Means land of enternal winter, which is what the Romans thought of Ireland. Latin. Where 'hibernate' come from.
I'm feeling all nostalgic for the homeland...
Typical Scotsman
Gives it all up for the bevvy!