Help wanted
Here's a couple of things that we could use your input to. We're planning to put some of the magazine's classic pieces on the site and we don't know where to start. If you'd like to suggest anything you'd like to read online - an interview, a funny or a feature - then let us know what it is and we'll send Scrotum the Wrinkled Retainer down into the cellar with a flaming torch and see if we can bring it blinking into the light of day.
Further to various comments made on threads like this one we thought we could extend our investigations into the changing shape of the music business by interviewing Jon Webster, the CEO of the Music Managers Forum, the body that represents many of the UK's top managers. I want to ask him about what's likely to happen in a world where the record company is no longer the be-all and end-all, what's likely to happen to tours and tickets prices, whether all your favourite rock heroes will end up shilling for shampoo companies and other related stuff. If you've got a question you think would enliven the debate post it here.
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Rob Fitzpatrick's Rush pig!
Seriously, his feature on Rush was fabulous. It came from the heart, and I'm sure I'm not the only one that grew misty eyed reading it. The unconditional love Rob showed for them that led him to fashion a pig in their name said so much about the way music affects us in our teenage years. A classic piece of writing.
how about the dido cover!
how about the dido cover!
question for your CEO
Having read the Steve Albini article you linked to I would ask him how his members sleep at night!
Andrew Collins' fans-eye view of the Arctic Monkeys
When I read that I didn't really know much about the Arctic Monkeys (I'm not sure the album was even out?) and recall thinking that AC was going through a midlife crisis such was his stude-like crush. Now though I can see what the fuss is all about and I'd love to read that again.
Thank you in advance.
Made me feel a bit ill
I thought it was a bit creepy actually.
AC-AM
Me too, but I thought it was just because I didn't 'get' the band. I rate them highly now (can't think of a UK indie band that have been better this decade) and I would like to read it again now I have a different vantage point.
Do you keep your back issues?
Then you'd be able to read them again. However my attic is heaving with old VOX, Select, Uncut, Q, MOJO, Rolling Stone and every copy of Word. In fact can't be sure what to do with them.
Q-madness
I kept all the copies of Q and stopped doing so at issue 200. Since then I have stopped keeping anything, including Word (I dropped Q anyway). It feels such a relief not to keep them hanging around, even though I do like picking out the odd stored Q.
The dilemma for all mags - Q, NME, Word, Mojo, Uncut - must be that it is SO VERY appropriate to allow access to everything online, but the moment they do their sales will surely decrease. Seems especially so for NME, with such a rich history and as their readership is net-savvy 'kids'.
Just let them go. Be free.
Just let them go. Be free. Stuff is not important (pores over booklet inside latest billy bragg release...)
I keep all the back issues.
The only one's I don't currently own in Issue 1 and Issue 3.
Made me think ...
I keep my back copies of the magazine in a rack and frequently take one down at random and re-read some parts. Test of quality - it easily supports another look. And your reference to your wrinkled retainer led me effortlessly to Billy Connolly.
I'd like...
...to read the Rush feature as well, as I never saw that one. Also, I remember Stuart Maconie did a piece on Yes around 2004 or so, right? Would quite like to see that one again.
Yes Yes
No pun intended - I'd like to see the Yes one too
Uncertain......
....how vital it is to constantly revisit: Unshod and Slomo both constantly republish "vintage" articles, which I usually skip over. It would be interesting to show again reviews of LPs from new and up and coming acts, later huge. Interesting to see how the original reviews for Murmur and Fables of the Reconstruction stack up against the recent rose tints given them now.
for Jon Webster
Who is more successful:
a) the guy who plays local pubs within walking distance for beer money...
or
b) the guy with the 10 album deal and an advance to repay?
OK... here's a suggestion....
seeing as The Word has limited space to review albums and DVDs, how's about a section on the site where contributors to the site can review things that haven't been featured in the magazine? You could choose a few each month to upload to the site that you think are worthy of attention.
We are thinking
Of doing something similar - a place to review the show you went to last night, the record you've just bought, etc.
Sounds good...
I will gladly give the next Supertramp best of CD a glowing review. Dedicated to all my admirers on this site...
I, for one,
can wait.
Great Idea
This would be a very good addition to the site, hopefully you can make this happen sometime, cheers in anticipation.
Mick Jones
The interview with Danny Kelly was great.Like to see that again. Good idea about readers' reviews Fraser.
How about an online index
I'm sure many readers keep the back issues and sometimes want to find old interviews/reviews/whatever. An online index would be pretty handy, telling you what issue you'd find such and such a review in. I realise it would be a bit of a bugger to set up but once up and running it would be simple to update.
Good Plan!
When I go looking for an old article that I dimly remember, I inevitably get sidetracked into re-reading all kinds of stuff. I guess an index would save time, but would also seriously reduce all that fun I've been having.
Gavin
This would be fine
as long as all the back issues are viewable online at the same time; after all, there's not much point in knowing that the article you want to read is in say, Issue 27, if you haven't got access to that issue.
Hmmmmm. Revenue stream, guys!
Music Manager Forum chap
1. Years ago it was said that tours were loss-making exercises done purely to sell the album. Now, they are the financial be-all and end-all. I know there's no money in album sales now but is it simply that ticket prices have been hiked to make them so lucrative? And if demand for live performance falls away, bands will have to become semi-professional to survive won't they?
2. Myth-busters. Is it true that Lee Mavers would earn £250k pa simply from 'There She Goes' royalties? What would The Smiths or The Stone Roses or Led Zep get for one night at Glastonbury? Who has the worst reputation for rider-fastidiousness?
Best / Worst lists
Remember that your chief goal in putting back-content on the site is to draw potential new subscribers (and occasional purchasers). One of the best types of content for this purpose is the "fun" item. Something that people will call out to each other across the office. And the regular Word feature that best fits this criterion is your "Best/Worst" 2-pager. Stick some of those on the site, signpost them prominently on your homepage, and watch the page-hits flood in.
What an absolutely
Superb idea. Also like the idea of a review area online, as you do occasionally miss out on a few good releases.
Prog review
I'd love to see the Heppo review of a prog compilation done in the style of a school master delivering a lesson. One of the best reviews I've ever read. Funny, and made me buy it.
I'd love to see...
...that prog compilation review from David Hepworth too! I never read it at the time.
I missed that!
Was it the Andy Votel "Four Letter Word" comp? I love that.
Mini Magazine
There was a free mini magazine with Issue 2. I can't even remember the content now but I got a lot out of it at the time. I've held on to all the magazines and the cds but I lost that magazine years go. I'd love it if you could lob that up on the site.. Or reprint it and stick it on the next cover!
Wasn't it...
...a must-read collection of books? (minus the supposed 'classics'')
That would be good to have. I also remember there being a supplement of rock photography from different decades...worthy of a re-print?
ALSOOOO
On the old Word Magazine site, there was a scroll down feature where you could select every participant of the Word of Mouth feature and view there recommendations. Re-introduce this.
Nice subversive Bonzos link
As we've said, everything comes back to the Bonzos!
The best bits of Word
are usually the ones that don't involve interviews with musicians. The editorial content is always far more interesting, such as the recent articles about the state of radio, the audio levels on CDs, etc. But that's just my opinion, possibly not yours.
If you want the funniest Word muso interview, it has to be Rob's one with Francis Rossi & Rick Parfitt, (on Butlins... "you could always get a shag - if you found the right bloke...") to be found in the 2006 issue with Tom Waits on the cover, which I found under the bed and re-read last week. Oddly enough it contained a now poignant interview with Anthony Manghella, named sell-out rock stars in adverts, a 'was Pete Best the fifth Beatle'-type paragraph and a few other recently topical items as well.
Good point
I found the recent Van Morrison and Elvis Costello features dull and unenlightening (unlike Leonard Cohen, who was graciousness personified), whereas the other features are nearly always very good.
The first bits I look at when my new issue arrives are Best/Worst and Word Of Mouth.
Ross Noble
Ross Noble's Word to the Wise I thought was memorable. Ironic really seeing as I'd forgotten all about it until I read this thread. I'd like to see it again if only for his comments on Lesley Garrett.
Reviews
How about an archive of select old reviews on the site. The 'big' reviews (as opposed to 'in brief' ones) are often pretty strong and a bit different from the usual music mag style - I am thinking recent Morrisey for example.
Those ones with quotes showing different viewpoints I like a lot too.
Caitlin Moran's article about Cocaine
...
The Tom Waits interview/feature from a few years back
.... I started reading it in the dentist waiting room (first exposure to Word) but when I went back in after my treatment to nick it, someone had beaten me to it and it was gone ;-)
The John Peel stuff from the Peel cover issue
I thought of it again listening to the Supergrass podcast with the mention of the festive 50 and the likelyhood that there will never be another broadcaster who has been so influential. It would be rather fitting I would suggest.
I second that.
Definately. By miles the best tribute to Peel from a music mag.
TRAVIS FROM ISH 2/3
fab interview- cooly done. As for the rest, who has the time to re-read? I'm amazed.
Thoughts
I too, would like to see the Tom Waits interview again and Andrew Collin's recent British Sea Power feature; may bring in some young indie kids to the site!
I also think that a few of the Best/Worst Lists, would be a good feature for the site. As mentioned, a live/album review section for contributers. Other ideas could include "5 albums" of the month nominated by 4 Word staff and a different site contributer every month. A few archive live reviews from past issues too perhaps. Thumbnails of old Word covers, could perhaps link to archive stories/ reviews from that issue etc.
Whilst you're at it
get rid of Word of Mouth. Who cares what they like?
Ive aquired numerous DVDs/Books/Music...
from this feature. Keep it...and keep shut.
Seriously
You have bought stuff because some of the people featured have said they like it? You sure you are not getting confused with the Home Service feature?
If there people of some
If there people of some considerable merit...than I'm going to trust there judgement.
Good writers = good suggestions of reading material etc.
The piece on lyric writing
from the Tom Waits cover issue... partially because my copy got pinched before I had a chance to finish it.
Also: you have occasional guide to buying books by topic; true crime, holiday reading etc. And of course, a complete Best/Worst. With scope for posts from us readers.
Main pitch: I do like the times that you post a complete interview transcript, giving us the full version of what didn't make it into the regular magazine (recently being Elvis Costello and Alan Moore). Perhaps a Deluxe Edition part of the site?
Last summer's piece on The Wire
Which told us all to watch it, even though we didn't have the time. I want to use it to indoctrinate the uninitiated.
Please.
Now that's a good idea.
I gave that issue away because in the Van Morrison interview he talked about an old record shop he used to go to in Belfast. As it was my sister-in-law's Dad who used to own the shop I lent her the copy and never got it back.
Issue Hoarder in need of Index
Now that I'm watched a couple of seasons of the Wire, I'd like to read that article again too. Anyone know what issue it was in?
Likewise, I remember there have been similar articles on the West Wing and Battlestar Galactica that I didn't read as, at the time, I watched neither show. Having now discovered their excellence (I'm midway through West Wing season 5 and all set for the new series or BSG starting on Sky next week), I'd like to read those articles now. Can anyone help shorten my attic rummage by letting me know what issues those two were in?
There is a classic piece
In the March Issue which I think you should put up.
For the life of me I can't remember what it was...........
Peelie
Love to read the Peel editorial from Mark Ellen again.
Love any interviews with
Love any interviews with specifics about the creative process and songwriting. Your recent Nick Lowe interviews where he talked about listening to a radio in a room next year, and in the same issue, the Leonard Cohen piece were terrific.
But I lost the earlier article, a cover article, I believe, summing up his career and pointing us towards highlights. I would really love to see that one again. Thanks a lot.
Anything by David Quantick
Do the writers get paid again once you post stuff online or is it a one off fee? Seriously.
In light of what's happened...
...don't post his Album review from last month's issue. It's a bit of a hot potato.
Shame
I thought that was one of the best reviews I'd ever read. At least we won't be getting any more hagiographies of the overrated **** (rhymes with litigant).
It was a shit review. No
It was a shit review. No justification necessary.
And Quantick is an Ape. A crap-capped Ape who applies his own oikish text to paper with crayola.
Harsh
Mr Quantick is alright by me. Certain parties doth protest too much. A certain singer is adopting Robert Maxwell tendencies.
A certain boy from Leed's is
A certain boy from Leed's is looking to get himself in all kinds of trouble.
Just in case the lawyers are reading
I was passing a general comment on Mr Quantick (I like his work). And I find it irksome in people, who are strongly opinionated, that they invoke the full force of the law when they don't agree with an opinion. Am bored with prima donnas.
I have to agree. Partake in
I have to agree. Partake in an active session of fisty-cuff's instead.
Something else I'd like to see again....
I have all the back issues but they're in the UK and I'm in Australia. Inconvenient.
Back in the early days you ran a brilliant a to z of genres, which was both entertaining, and informative. I'd love to see it again. Likewise, I recall an article about catchprases and their origins whic was very good.