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Help, the second..
Posted by Declan on 21 January 2010 - 2:03pm.
(Already posted this yesterday, sank without trace..)
I've been doing my nut since 1974 about a piece I heard on FM radio in America.
About 20 minutes long (so an entire LP side), it was jazz-rock of the earliest variety, not necessarily with horns (just can't remember). It certainly had plenty of thrust and virtuosity. At the end, the DJ said what I took to be Compass Rising. This has never got me anywhere, possibly something similar misheard?
So Massive: any ideas out there?
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My first guess
Eruption by Focus
Here's an extract
Oh my goodness me,
that brings back memories. Moving Waves is still up there in my top ten albums of all time.
Declan, even if this isn't what you heard that night, and if you haven't already got it, try to get a listen to the whole album, it's fabulous. One side is tracks of conventional length, while side two is the epic 'Eruption', a tiny part of which you've seen here.
Me too
First LP I bought out of my own pocket. On hearing it played on the family gramophone my Mother was heard to remark "They don't play other people's songs then".
Saw a recent version of the band a year or two ago. And they played "Eruption" all the way through. Even without Jan, it was still magic.
Terrific band..
and a fantastic album, oh yes. Saw them live in Dublin in '75 or '76 with successor Burt Ruiter on bass, even got my programme autographed by all 4.
Here's another clip…
For me, this is a fantastic example of a band playing with true taste and empathy.
Seen Akkermann recently?
He's still a helluva guitar player but has turned into a bit of a "kinderschreck" i.e. the sort of guy who scares kids.
I seem to recall a beret was involved last time I saw him
On him that is, not me. He hasn't lost his chops but I did find what he played inaccessable. He knew he was expected to play "Hocus Pocus" but kept fannying around with it to the point that I wished he hadn't bothered.
Thanks guys..
but I know this album very well. No, it wasn't a quartet, it was a bigger line-up..
Cheers anyway.
This is really giving me a headache!
I've been trying to work out what it could have been.
I thought maybe something by the early incarnation of Chicago, but I've been looking at their song titles and nothing springs to mind.
The 'whole side' thing should narrow it down... not many jazz rock groups did songs that long.
Thanks for your efforts Patrick..
and of course you're right - a whole album side should indeed narrow things down.
What else? Well it was an instrumental. And at that time, jazz-rock was just starting to be used as a term, after the first albums by Billy Cobham, Retern to Forever, Weather Report, etc. I suppose, at a pinch, it could have been some prog band like Gracious or Quatermass or Soft Machine.
Compass Rising, anyone???
Lucifer Rising?
If it is the above piece - then there are two possibilities. One that it is Jimmy Page's work for Kenneth Anger's film of the same name. The film was a celebration of Aleister Crowley. Page failed to deliver a completed soundtrack.
So, sometime later - Anger turned to Manson acolyte and convicted murderer but sometime musician - Bobby Beausoleil - who was given permission by the prison authorities to record music for the album. This is the more likely option given your date reference.
The album has 6 eponymous tracks numbered 1 to 6. No 5 is over fifteen minutes long. No. 6 around ten. Incredibly, it's on Spotify
http://open.spotify.com/album/5pk3Fu369hrE00HdQai0jY
It is a dark and fascinating tale and a little Googling and You Tube-ing around the names and titles above will find you some, um, interesting things.
The two clips below are first - an extract of the Page work - and the second Beausoleil's
I've had a bit of a listen to the Beausoleil thing - first time ever -and despite the music - being made by a deranged individual - it is not without beauty and charm
Listen with the lights on - and unchemically assisted - may be sound practice
May the angels be with you
Page
Beausoleil
Closer and closer, Sheev..
but still no cigar, although I'm discounting nothing before hearing those long Page pieces you mention. Only snag is - Spotify is not available in my "territory", aka Germany. I'll stay on the case..
Shall also check out the other stuff you detail and report presently.
Oh, and with you too, and your lovely kids1
..kids!
(smile)
might it be
John Hiseman's Colloseum..Valentine's Suite maybe?
'Fraid not..
keep thinking Bingham.
How about
Brand X and Isis Mourning ? (is that close to Compass Rising?)
Also 'fraid not..
I know it and it isn't. More suggestions please Bisto.
Oh please let this one be it!
This feels like watching a likeable person on Who wants to be a Millionaire getting closer and closer to the Big One...Compass Rising...Isis Mourning....there's a good chance....C'moooon!
No you c'mon..
How many chances has a man got of finding a long lost record if not with the help of the multitudinous compendious massive? Not like you can go down the local record shop anymore and whistle it, is it? Ignore the goddamn thread if you don't like it but no need to be calling for its curtailment just because...oh, sod it, we've had enough middlerabbiting to be going on with. Have a nice weekend, man.
Meanwhile, massive, I'm so grateful for any and all suggestions.
I'm still working on this...
Can you recall anything more specific?
Was it definitely 1974 when you heard it?
Was there a featured instrument... guitar, sax, trumpet?
Would you say it was funky or widdly-widdly?
American / British / other?
Was it entirely instrumental?
Very experimental or did it have a tune?
Definitely Summer ' 74..
entirely instrumental, long guitar and keyboard soli, tend to think there were no horns, definitely tuneful, prog-ish and jazzy and widdly!
Thing is, Patrick, I had all the usual instumental stuff in my collection at the time, so post-Miles stuff (Mahavishnu, Miles' Bitches Brew, Billy Cobham's Spectrum, RTF's Where) as well as European prog (King Crimson, Yes, VdGG, Focus, Amon Duul). The tendency was definitely to the American, let's say commercialized end of electric jazz, so there would have been some black guys involved, probably being prodded on by some business-sussed svengali, telling them, "This is what them pot-smokin' kids are buyin' now!"
But it WAS 20-ish minutes long and very well-played by absolutely top musicians. It (literally) pinned me to the wall. And this was daytime FM radio!
Keep thinkin'
Declan, words failed me
I was actually really willing you to find the answer to the question that had been bugging you. I was referring to you as the likeable guy..I'd found the thread to be really interesting and when I said c'moooon, it was meant in the same spirit of excited encouragement as that which you feel when the striker of your favourite team is bearing down on goal in a cup final: it was in no way meant as an expression of exasperation with the thread! What prompted me to post was the fact that I actually thought that the suggestion above my post might have been close enough to actually be what you were looking for and I wanted to be online when you found it! I hope you do. That's what the massive's for...Have a nice weekend and sorry for any misunderstanding or hurt feelings I caused you. Our threads are special and important to all of us and I'd never diss another man's.It's not my bag.
Everything's cool..
slight misunderstanding on my part Vorgongod. Delighted to know you're rooting for me like so many others. Well, I was 19 when I heard this piece, now I've just turned 55 and, call it anal retentive if you like, it's never left me. But it's the way music lovers are, eh?
Steve Hillage
had an album called Fish Rising
Aftaglid
Know it Bisto..
but real nice to hear again. Yeah, this kind of sound and soloing, bit more jazz chops.
Must admit all I could guess was Carla Bley
or Mike Gibbs, so clearly no help, I'll be genuinely interested to see how you get on ...
Got quite a few Bley albums..
like Gibbs, she tends to work with bigbands. Which it wasn't. Cheers Nick.
Ash Ra Tempel
Amboss (compass ?)
Actually new to me..
very nice and propulsive too. I'll see what else of theirs is on You-Tube. Isn't it though. More ideas?
Bisto, you might like what TLJ Bukem does, the genre seems to be called liquid funk, from about the early noughties. Still trying to track down a guitar wig-out thing he did which sounds a lot like Fish Rising with a computer-generated driving beat.
Oh, and the new Mojo free CD is also worth having.
Do you mean the Syd one?
I haven't given it a spin yet, it only arrived this morning.
Monstrous Psychedelic Bubble ..
it's called, no Syd in sight. It's actually old and found music from way back updated in a dj mix sense and moves forward very pacily indeed (at least until Donovan arrives). But definitely worth having.
Ooooh, I thought that one was horrible.
Loads of really good psych and freakbeat songs ruined by some twerps with computers.
Twerps with computers..!
I really am laughing out loud at this! Better forget the Bukem then, he's one as well, ho-ho!. Oh, and as a German speaker, let me tell you that Amboss means anvil.
John Klemmer comes to mind,
but he'd have had Waterfalls out at that time, and it's too awash with echoplex sax to match your description.
Hmmmm, still pondering...
Not discounting anything..
don't really know Klemmer, I must admit, think I've got a single piece on a sampler. Did he do side-long tracks with guitarists? Is Waterfall the one to get?
Curse of the keyboard short cut.
aaargh
I've just dug out the vinyl to check...
nope, no side long tracks. It may be that my memory of it having had loooooong tracks is a figment of the time warping effects of my chosen refreshments at the time I first heard it.
He's fairly prolific, and I only have two albums: the aforementioned Waterfalls and a later one called Cry credited to 'John Klemmer - Solo saxophone', which includes a track called 'Waterfall' that echoes the original album. If you like trippy jazz rock in an embryonic chill-out stylee from 30 years before Chill Out became a genre, Waterfalls is worth hearing, but I have a feeling it's starting to edge into the 'Available from these sellers' zone on Amazon, which usually means some rotten sod is asking £30+ for it. Drop me a line (winks).
John Klemmer
Waterfalls
That's the fella.
Thanks Bisto.
Sound like
Can you direct us to a song that is *very similar* ? might help jog the old brain cells
Came across this....
"Capricorn Rising" by Don Pullen , know nothing about it other than it was released around 1976, and sounds "jazzy". Help, anyone?
Quite right Iggy..
Pullen was a jazz pianist and organist, who died back in the ninties. He was never a fusion type of musician, more old school, and was generally thought of in connection with Mingus (one of the greats). But I know nothing about Capricorn Rising, yet. Thanks.
Rather in this sort of mould..
only long and building and intense
sort of like this (please excuse the quality)
and a groove a bit like this
Deccers -
do you think it might have been long-lost prog rock legends Ozymandias the Hellebore from their legendary opus Annals of the Lenten Rose?
It sounds like it might be the side long "Excavation of the Underling Kind of Theocrates" which featured Moog, Crumphorn and a speeded-up sample from a local boy-scout troop's accapella rendition of Deep Purple's "Blooodsucker". Could it be that?
He's asking about side one, though
surely ? ... *that* was side two.
Where is Stephen Potter when he's needed ...
Music of German Origin (Mogo)
I won't call it Krautrock - as it seems less than politically correct now
So - perhaps could it be Monchengladbach based Mogo free-jazz "Larm Macht Frei" art-warriors Ahnalplug?
Fronted by Gunther Schmerzen and Uli Braunkrapp - their star flamed briefly before Schmerzen criticised Braunkrapp's famous mung bean stew which he would cook up nightly in their Oberkruchten squat.
The damage to their relationship was irreparable and their reputation rests on their 8 track only release Kosmischen Aufstand
Krautrock is what it's called over here as well..
so on that basis , let's ditch all thoughts of PC-ness.
"8 track only" - that's just brilliant! Got me in stitches now, you have.
Well, cheers, Declan old son,
I didn't even have the pleasure of hearing whatever the heck it is on AM radio in the United States, BUT NOW I'M BLOODY WELL HOOKED ON KNOWING WHAT IT WAS YOU HEARD TOO, you swine.
Next time you remember a half-dreamed listening experience from the depths of time, do us all a favour and just hum it to yourself occasionally, OK?
Out there somewhere..
Okay everyone, I do appreciate that my half-a-lifetime-spanning wild goose chase is starting to grate.
However, the piece of music in question is OUT THERE SOMEWHERE, probably sold as well as anything else of its ilk, and is presumambly languishing in one of your collections.
The ideas so far have been, given what I could tell you, spot on. Thanks so much for bearing with me - you Massive are special indeed.
I should say it's not grating
as such with me at least--I'm just taking the p***-in a perfectly friendly way.
I am genuinely hooked now to see what it'll actually be ...
The Potter ref was just to the sage of "Lifemanship".
We're rooting for you Dec
- but talking of "grate" - it's not them is it? The old Dreadful Grate - in some bootleg of one their trademark wandersome never ending boogie meanderations is it? Sounds like a Grate type title
Stimpy, our resident expert on all things..
pertaining to the aforementioned "Dreadful Grate", where is he when we need him?
This list might be a help...
http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=30
Very useful site..
thanks Patrick. Obviously, it'll take a while to go through. Presently...
I wonder if an email to Allyn Shipton
might be worth a go-he has very broad tastes in jazz and might have a good idea or lead
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006x41z
A bit of a long shot..
to be frank, but why the hell not. This thing is not going to leave me in peace, even after this thread has run its course. I appreciate it Nick.
I can't stop
watching
Could it have been this?
They were previously a straight-ahead rock group, and this was a new direction for them at the time. I hope you like it...
I've not forgotten
...I'm still looking out.
This is fun.
Something to keep us ticking over..
y'all ain't heard this in a while.
Warning: widdly and demands attention span.
And this might be your introduction to a fine but obscure British band (whose bassist died recently). RIP Jeff Clyne
Is it Fat Mattress?
"Irridescent Butterfly" - played again and again?
Well, No..
but it might well be a leading candidate for weediest vocal ever. And to think that Hendrix tolerated this chap in his band and even let him do the occasional album track (litle Miss Strange, anyone?).
Electric Miles ?
Big Fun ?
http://nostalgae.blogspot.com/2007/09/miles-davis-big-fun-1974.html
Was out that year ?
Miles, my man..
can't be caught out there, Nick. No, not Miles, great though Big Fun is. More good suggestions?
it seemed unlikely
just worth a try
Another question...
Do you know the name of the radio station you heard it on?
No idea Patrick..
but it was in Albany/Troy/Schenectady in upstate New York. Have you got a brainwave pending?
I just thought that if you knew the station name...
then someone out there might have playlists from that time. It's just possible.
I have been wondering since you posted
what the phrase "Compass Rising" could mean. One clue is that it is the emblem of the El Paso Museum of History. A Texan/Southern connection ?
https://www2.elpasotexas.gov/history/_documents/Entire%20Press%20Kit%20i...
Also seems to be a popular name for yachts.
Larry Coryell
had a '71 album called Barefoot Boy with a 20' track called Call To The Higher Consciousness, lots of guitar and piano. I can't find a definitive clip of the track but it is in the background of this bloke's video of his junk drawer. Obviously.
Eureka ..ka ..ka
http://ricklawn.com/category/recordings/compass-jazz-quartet
See http://www.purevolume.com/compass
Yay
Good work Sir.
more info here
This copy of LP has gone but should help you track it down
http://cgi.ebay.ca/COMPASS-RISES-Private-1973-Ohio-Rhodes-Modal-Jazz_W0Q...
and this may be an online file source (can Stimpy advise on safety ?)
http://thatsallritemama.blogspot.com/2009/11/compass-on-schoolhouse.html
Yeesss!! You beauty!!!
Nick, I'm truly awestruck. That it alright, local band, never rose above obscurity. Brilliant! Eureka indeed.
To you and all the other "Massives" who took part in this particular chase, I take my hat off to all of you and herby declare this session terminated.
Hope I can return the favour sometime, somehow.
I enjoyed it
pure virtual hunter gathering ... and someone else's money.
Good luck in finding it in LP or electronic form (I'm a bit chicken about those MP3 links-tell us if you find one that works).
Will do..
but it's the LP I'll be wanting. Obviously very rare, did you see that price bid? But special music, I'll b**n you a c**y! The others too. Eventually.
I'd try emailing Rick Lawn as well
you never know--he might have an idea or two
http://www.kendormusic.com/composer/lawn.htm
and http://ricklawn.com/
I did indeed see that rather large sum---that's what I meant about someone else's money ;-).
Nick W
If I could give you ten arrows I would! Declan, y'see, the massive will *never* let you down: no matter how arcane the grail. I'm absolutely *delighted* for you!!! BTW all the other stuff posted by the massive has given me an education in an area of music I'd never much bothered with before..Bring on the next treasure hunt! We're making dreams come true here folks....
Aw cheers Mike..
you're so right. Scary, isn't it, how close you can get to being friends with people you mightn't ever even meet? Out there somewhere. Makes me feel very humble - and it was only a record, way back.. Hey, see you for a pint sometime, c'mon!
Should your travels ever take you London
Just email me through the website....Once again, delighted for you!
Okay..
man.
I can...
breathe again.
Well done Nick!
now I gotta hear this tune
Two of the three links here seem
to work and haven't apparently broken my home PC yet ...(third one is zero length)
http://thatsallritemama.blogspot.com/2009/11/compass-on-schoolhouse.html
perhaps Declan could tell us if either is the one he heard.
cheers man
I went for 'Sour Cream' as it was album side length
you do know I expect greatness now?
Having listened to the 2 tracks..
may I observe the following:
Mission accomplished, this MUST be the album, given what we knew.
What doesn't stack up, however, is the fact that there isn't a side-long track in sight.
Also, the music is pleasant but rather ordinary-sounding fusion. Not exactly the conflagration I've been imagining for the last 35 years.
Probably need to think this through in peace, in terms of possible shifts in taste and gains in knowledge of jazz on my part: the former probably negligible, the latter almost definitely colossal.
Not that disappointment is the overriding feeling, this could offer (me)food for reflection that will presumably help (me)in the long run. Let's give it time. I need to sleep on this.
Thanks everyone, you've been Massive.
perhaps they played something else by the group
that hadn't been commercially recorded-and then plugged the album ? A suitably diplomatic query about whether the station might have had such tracks, to Rick Lawn, might get you an answer.
I find actually tracking these things down can be a *very* mixed experience-- e.g. this week I have been surprised by how pedestrian the BBC radio Foundation Trilogy was, and in contrast how surprisingly good the one ep of Edward Woodward's "1990" online is.
edit: Also, take a look at the sleevenotes
http://img1.iwascoding.de/1/2009/11/16/ECF50877B0B34EBF904DDB49CA7CA47C....
-some of the other tracks sound more like what you mentioned, maybe ?
Good point ..
certainly the geography of the band, the recording, and the radio broadcast suggest a local phenomenon on which Lawn might very well be able to shed some light. I'll try emailing him in the coming days.
Quite frankly, the album tracks are all around the 5-minute mark and therefore offer little hope of the intensity I had in mind. Unless one of the album sides is incredibly seamless..
Anyway, Nick, you're a hero.
Didn't help
with the hunt as my knowledge of prog jazz fusion is pretty limited. I was, however, going to unhelpfully say that perhaps your recollection of what you heard had might have been less than accurate.
I know it;s happened to me a few times where I heard something years ago which, at the time seemed like the best thing ever, only to finally track it down and be somewhat underwhelmed.
I often think that the first hearing, unannounced, sprung on you with no time to prepare yourself, is the best and that it's downhill from there.
Difficult to make a final judgement..
Peter, but the facts as they stand support what you're saying. I was into fusion at the time, and subsequently went the whole hog by immersing myself in proper jazz, the whole tradition up to and including free energy playing and all shades of deconstruction in between. Never, I might add, losing sight of the Beatles, Steely Dan, Hendrix, J.S.Bach, Motown, and all the rest. My taste is broad. And time is long.
I guess it's been just too long and it's hard going back. As I intimated above, though, this can only help to give me some perspective on myself. Chasing a chimera, we've all done it, eh?
So be warned,Massive!
We certainly *have* all done it, I'd say ...
your experience moved me to go and look again at this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2005/apr/30/jonathancoe.arthurconandoyle
superb essay by Jonathan Coe on his lifetime quest for Billy Wilder's "Sherlock Homes":
The flip side
Can't argue with any of the above, but the flip side is the chance that Declan would have rediscovered something genuinely inspired. When Napster first came out, I remember the thrill of reacquainting with music from my youth. Specifically, I remember downloading all of The Ikon by Todd Rundgren's Utopia, some of which is widdly widdly nonsense, but there are passages of it as sublimely melodic as anything he has done - and listening to it again was like discovering it afresh.
So, the moral of the story is, don't give up on the quest.
Indeed
as I had also wanted to say, so thanks for saying it much better. My excerpting didn't really capture the two sides of the coin-Coe's essay in full does, I think-and is rather moving.
I wasn't suggesting
for one minute that any of us, in a similar situation, should hesitate in case of what we find. This sort of thing is an itch that must be scratched.
If anything, I find the converse is true. Stuff you had dismissed years ago as rubbish can often sound fantastic when heard through more tolerant ears. My collection is full of stuff I would never have given houseroom to 20 years ago.
Big fat 5 skin doobie of Durban Poison
= time dilation right off the Hawking scale.
Net result: 5 minute Jazz Fusion track is experienced as endless sea of noodling brilliance, and is embedded in Proustian circuits as entire afternoon of funktastic jazztabulousness.
Admit it, Declan, you were refreshed when you heard it first.
I read that as
the Hawkwind scale
I'm still convinced
it was Ozymandias the Hellebore...
that;s the long lost
second album --- too rare even for eBay ...
I know what it is!!
It's on the tip of my tongue...it's...it's...it's gone. Sorry.
Good game this innit. Next challenge please.
I'm no noodle-jazz fan myself,
but can I just say that this has been the most compelling and revealing thread I've read since I started lurking around these parts. It's got it all: nostalgia, desperation, head-scratching, soul-searching, discovery, disappointment, melancholy and a truly enriching sense of community engagement. It's like one of those heartwarming slow-news-day stories where the entire population of Arimo, Idaho downs tools and works together to rescue puppies that have fallen into a disused well.
If you're reading this, staff, can we make this a regular feature in the magazine? Can we get people to submit their half-forgotten unGoogleable fragments of history so that the Massive can give their memories the redux treatment?
Please?
I'm not so sure
While it has been a brilliant thread, the immediacy of the web lends itself much more to these kind of requests than print does.
especially 'cos
what I had to do in the end "was* Google
compass jazz
amnd skip all the stuff about Joshua Redman. It was finding the right keywords, not too many, not too few.
The author of the thread takes stock..
For me, this thread has been a rollercoaster ride, from several angles.
The itch (thanks Peterb) needing scratching was identified (thanks Nick). End of story? Well, the immediacy of the web (thanks Fraser) meant not having to scurry after a long-deleted LP for 300 bucks, you could hear it, or at least some of it, right now, in real time (thanks Nick).
That it failed to thrill me like it did back then launches, of course, the soul-searching (thanks Pax) bit. There are very few opportunities as clear-cut as this for comparing an experience and, crucially, your memory of your eveluation of that experience, with the same experience and its attendant evaluation 35 years later.
It's not just a matter of being underwhelmed (thanks Peterb) or inspired (thanks Nick Duvet)or even deluded, this is a basic object lesson in how the same stimulus (Compass Rises) can elicit almost diametrically-opposed reactions in the same subject, me, ranging from electrifying to ho-hum. 35 years apart!
And what has changed? Obviously not the music, I've changed, me! This is the astonishing bit, the sheer extent of it. I'm not a temps perdu kind of guy, yearning for my youth, thay hasn't been an issue since my middle-age crisis, some while back. No, this is a cleanly-defined, clearly-identifiable watershed, which is likely to make me reconsider and shake up many of the givens in my life. Only a question about something once heard on the radio, now a thruster boost, a kick in the ass, to keep on developing and improving as a person. Seriously!
Finally, thanks Massive. I feel at home and among friends here, even though it's only words in my computer monitor. Isn't life miraculous?
For this and everything on this thread (and indeed others)
A revolution in the head
"He not busy being born is busy dying" as the man said--so more power to you, and I hope you'll use this experience in any way that works for you BUT I'd still suggest a quick email to Rick Lawn, or posting here
http://www.purevolume.com/compass
which another band member seems to read, just to check you didn't hear a one-off recording-as they were obviously doing gigs in that era and had more material than what is on the album e.g.
Their list of "covers" sounds a bit broader than the classics of pre-Miles jazz:
But I'm not about to second guess you.
Anyway, the tale says an awful lot about memory and how we shape it--a great interest of mine, having a rather idiosyncratic memory myself. I'm still, myself, learning to appreciate the wisdom of this:
---from http://www.stereophile.com/thinkpieces/300audiophilia/#
Second guessing not necessary...
cheers Nick, still intend getting in touch with Lawn, soon as I get around to it.
Your Gould story takes us very close to a nod to some shade of) a Constructivist world view, whereby each and every perception is constructed new in our heads, input from the environment playing only a minor role. As you know.
Nice story too, even if things audiophile are, in fact, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. IMO. Tentative thumbs up, then.
As a former Rega and Sondek owner,
current Arcam Solo owner, etc etc (many many posts passim), I'd not disagree with you-and I'm sure the writer wouldn't really either--just thought the Gould description was a nice bit of writing, was in two minds about including the outer paragraphs as a bit OT.
Also, re: the posts a bit higher up I am reminded of the view that some of the wiser 80s audiophile writers took, that a key final ingredient of a system was a good single malt ;-).
One of the most extraordinary moments of the Eno documentary last week for me was when this remarkably passionate and yet sane man exclaims (about 7 mins in) "god I hate remembering ... it's all past, you know" --- A constructivist if ever I saw one ...I liked the quote he had on a recent Word spine which was something like "the world has to be continuously perturbed to keep it interesting", or something like that. Actually you have reminded me that I need to finish this book
http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~dsweb/searching.html
and see if I can find others in the same league.
As a current Sondek owner...
can I just say that the wise audiophiles were/are right on the money!
Yes, the Schacter sounds very interesting indeed. Must check it out. Another Harvard man with a rather wider brief (language as a window into human nature, no less) and entertaining and very funny with it, is Steven Pinker. His "The Stuff of Thought" might just be to your liking.