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Help - OId Folks Needed
Posted by Fraser Lewry on 27 October 2009 - 1:57pm.
Here at Word Manor we're trying to think of long-established artists who've made great albums in the noughties. We're looking at Solomon Burke for Don't Give Up on Me, the Boss for his Pete Seeger collection, Brian Wilson for Smile, that kind of thing.
Has anyone got any particular favourites from old folk we have have missed?
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Jackson Browne
First hits in the early 70s, lost way in the early 80s, then in 93 released "I'm alive" which is a fantastic album, with no little irony in the title...back to gold.
But...
'93 wasn't in the noughties Twang...
Arrrrrgh
Not Reading OP Properly Syndrome strikes again. It is still an excellent album though :-)
BB King
One Kind Favour, released last year. Produced by T Bone Burnett. I might argue with the overdubbing of a second rhythm section but really it is a blistering set. Wasn't his fantastic Louis Jordan tribute Let The Good Times Roll in the noughties as well?
The Dan
This lot have been going at least as long as, possibly longer, than the Boss. Everything Must Go 2003 I think. Great album.
Smile
Can you really count Smile as a noughties album?
I know what you mean...
But it was recorded and released this decade, even if the material was 40 years old.
...not only that, but it was
rubbish anyway. My vote goes for `Lucky Old Sun` as a far better album!
let's not forget Randy Newman
Harps and Angels is pretty much his best record.
I wouldn't go that far...
but I'll certainly second it as a really fine album that easily qualifies for this thread.
Emmylou Harris
Red Dirt Girl. Where on earth did that suddenly come from? Self composed album for the first time.
that is
a wicked album
I'd like to nominate Joe Jackson
for the Rain album.
Good call
Saw an excellent live show where he was trying out the arrangements - fantastic night.
Agreed!
Excellent album....but is he an oldie? Early fifties maybe?
I watched him on an old Rock Goes To College show the other night. Must've been the I'm The Man tour....magic!!
And I thought it was just me
who talked up JJ around these parts. Rain is a great album.
Robert Plant
The Plant/Kraus record was amazing and allowed him to redefine his career and feel confident enough to not have to cash in his chips on a Zep reunion tour.
Sorry, I will stop posting these in a minute.
This
is precisely the sort of thread where up arrows are useful for seconding a suggestion without adding a post. Even though I just have. Great album, even better concert at Wembley last year.
Loretta Lynn
Van Lear Rose
Memory jogger
Can I have an assist there Mavis?
Old Folks are my favourites
Loudon Wainwright III - High Wide and Handsome
Randy Newman - Harps and Angels
Ry Cooder - I, Flathead
Tom Waits - Orphans
Steve Earle - Jerusalem
John Hiatt - Same Old Man
Bob Dylan - Together Through Life
Levon
Levon Helm - Dirt Farmer and Electric Dirt
Nick Lowe
At My Age - a gem
Fantastic album
He gets better with age.
Mavis Staples
We'll Never Turn Back
Boz
Boz Scaggs - Dig is the most recent I have (2001) but it's good. He has released other stuff since but I don't know what its like.
If you don't already have it,
travel back 7 years to 1994's Some Change, which is absolutely first class. Doesn't qualify for this thread I'm afraid, but really, really worth hearing.
If Springsteen is Old Folk then how about these...
how about these...
SPARKS - Balls, L'il Beethoven, Hello Young Lovers, Exotic Creatures of The Deep. All excellent, original and sounding very much of the time (if not ahead). Must be the best "old" band producing "new" around.
JOHNNY CASH - American Recordings
IGGY POP solo and with the Stooges - Skull Ring, Weirdness etc
THE WHO - Endles Wire
RAY DAVIES - Other People's Lives
PATTI SMITH - Gung Ho, Trampin'
NEW YORK DOLLS - One Day It Will Please Us, Cause I Sez So
RADIO BIRDMAN - Zeno Beach
The Dame
had two - Heathen and Reality
Also, the obligatory Dylan - Modern Times
Johnny Cash - American III and IV
Bryan Ferry - Frantic
I'll second the Dame
Both very good albums.
as
etc
Heathen is great one of his best
it fits together in a way only he can do. Reality sounds to me like a "i can get back into arenas on the back of heathen if i get another record out sharpish" release. Would love to know where his head's at musically. A whole new thread there..............
Heathen
was brilliant, and the offcuts from the abandoned 'Toy' album superb - some sublime re-recordings of 60s material. Love the take on 'Conversation Piece', magisterial, solemn. And there's a cut of 'Can't Help Thinking About Me' which rocks like a mongoose.
But yes, would be really curious as to what he's about now - if anything?
I'll third Reality...
I don't know Heathen at all but I love Reality.When he conjures up his Young American self on "She'll drive the big car" terrific!
Yes, Frantic by Ferry
The track 'I Thought' (written by Ferry & Eno) is as good as any Roxy track IMHO.
Candi Staton
His Hands
Cowboy Junkies
Never made a bad one, but the '00s have given us "Open", "One Soul Now", "Early 21st Century Blues" and "At The End Of Paths Taken", which well might be the best of their career.
Stones
No one's mentioned the Rolling Stones yet... ;-)
Yeah
Their last album was a real return to form (repeat ad infinitum).
Yeah...
their best since Exile On... (shoots self).
You Can Snigger...
but A Bigger Bang, whilst not a masterpiece, is definitely their best album since Some Girls.
The Reverend
Al Green - Lay It Down. His best album in thirty five years if you believe some critics.
Believe The Hype
It a really good album, and was going to be my mention (as was Randy Newmans Harps & Angels). Better have a thunk for any others...
Oops
(See below.)
RT Duty
Sweet Warrior - Forty years behind the Strat and proud of it, sir.*
* I know, but I'm doing it in Eric Idle's voice.
Buddy Guy
He released Sweet Tea in 2001, in my opinion the only solo record up to that point that justified his reputation. Genuinely amazing. Parts of it sound like a lost Hendrix record. Releases since then have been patchy though.
Only 5 or so years younger than Springsteen
probably 'getting on' rather than 'old', but a good 30+ years under their belts:
Chris Difford - Last Temptation of Chris
Robert Forster - The Evangelist.
2 of the best albums of last year.
Al Green
Lay It Down was the best thing he's done for 35 years.
A Few
"Chaos and Creation" - Paul McCartney
"One Day It Will Please Us" and "Cause I Sez So" - New York Dolls - both better than their seventies albums
"Endless Wire" - The Who
I'd love to add a Stones album but I can't
"Magic" is far superior to the "Seegar Sessions"
Another vote for "Lay It Down", it is Al's best album in a long time
Another nod for Raising Sand" but don't leave out Percy's "Mighty Rearranger" which is a very fine thing indeed.
Don't know if he's old enough to qualify
but Morrissey's three noughties albums have all been excellent.
Motörhead
Motörizer - a real RTF
James Ray - with his final (he's sadly retired due to failing health) incarnation of 25men and their splendid album The Dancing Wu Li Masters
Lee Hazelwood
Cake or death - 2006.
Absolutely bonkers... but great.
gb
the Waits 2002 two
Alice and Blood Money
apart from my beloved "Rain Dogs", these are my favourite two of his. So many good songs. So many. And released on the same day.
"Lullaby" is just beautiful.
Elvis & Elvis
The last two Elvis albums have been excellent and the previous two (one with Alan Toussaint) are not too shabby either.
Nobody has mentioned Madness yet either.
As well as the country stuff that others have already mentioned, this years Willie Nelson/Asleep at the Wheel collaboration is fine too.
Norton Folgate
Yeah! Madness! Norton Folgate: best album of their career* That One Step Beyond banner ad on the site keeps surprising me by saying the album's 30 years old. 30!
*I have not listened to all of Madness' records
Mentioned already, but...
I still think Lil Beethoven by Sparks is an outstanding record and easily the best if their career. Hello Young Lovers us mighty, mighty fine too. I never got into Exotic Creatures... And I never enjoyed Balls, but that came out in '99 anyway, pre LB.
The Who's Endless Wire is looney but enjoyable.
Nick Lowe, obviously.
Really liked Ray Davies' Working Man's Café.
Some people rate the Neil Diamond/Rick Rubin records but I never loved them.
Two Johns
Fair and Square may not be John Prine's finest work, but it's a record many a younger whippersnapper would be proud to match for overall quality.
John Hiatt started his career about 5 years after Mr Prine, but he's produced three fine albums since the turn of the century of which I think Master Of Disaster is the best.
Hiatt
JH is incredibly consistent though isn't he? You can't go wrong with any of his records really.
Maybe stretching it a bit (and too obscure?)
but I'd nominate Peter Christopherson (career going back since the mid-70s, with Throbbing Gristle, Psychic TV then Coil).
His "Form Grows Rampant" album (under the name of Threshold Houseboys Choir) seems more beautiful and luxuriant every time I listen to it. Don't worry if TG, Coil etc aren't your bag - this is absolutely nothing like them, and possibly all the better for it!
One of the best records I've ever heard...
Not certain if she's ancient enough, but it's nice to mention her in any case.
Forgot about this
(how could I?)
Slow on the uptake
Looked at the pic and thought "Hey - those islands look like a soundwave." A quick Google later and I discover - hey, they are a soundwave.
Only took me however many years to notice. Not bad by my standards.
P.S. Am I the only one who's listened to Aerial many times and really like it, but still could not hum you one tune from the feller?
Somewhere In Between
on A Sky of Honey is rather hummable, I find.
hum hum hum
Mrs Bartolozzi is pretty hummable.
I find hummability
King Of The Mountain, Somewhere In Between, Nocturn. Beautiful and catchy. Kate is a genius.
Nicholas Edward Cave
aged 52. Dig Lazarus Dig!!!! among others.
Great album
- and I'm not a big Caver by any means
Me neither
That's the only one I have ever bought. But other noughties efforts of his seem to have been well received.
Fine album
- although I think Abbatoir/Orpheus is better
Whilst I love Nick Cave
and whilst there are a couple of excellent tracks on his latest albums, they are nowhere near the same league as Murder Ballads, The Boatman's Call and No More Shall We Part. And Live Seeds is also an outstanding testament to the mans pure wonder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_Seeds
I also found Grinderman pretty disappointing, especially after all the hype. But I reckon he still has some amazing songs and recordings left in him. He's a marvel really. From chaotic junkie to someone who goes to his office everyday and sits down to write songs. He writes wonderfully about songs and song writing as well.
For recent Nick Cave though this track made it all worthwhile:
John Martyn "On the Cobbles" (2004)
A corker from the big man, and all we have until "willing to work" gets out...
"Under My Wing"
from that album is one of my favourite JM tracks - up there with his best work imho.
Book of Lightning
by The Waterboys.
I didn't really rate the other albums by the re-born noughties Waterboys but this was great, and deserved all the rave reviews it got.
And Mike Scott is now in his 50s, so should just about qualify for this thread!
For your consideration
Martin Simpson - Prodigal Son (2007)
Vashti Bunyan - Lookaftering (2005)
Ali Farka Toure - Savane (2006)
Orchestra Baobab - Specialist in all Styles (2002), Made in Dakar (2007)
Neil Diamond - 12 Songs (2005)
Dr John - Sippiana Hericane (2005)
Jerry Lee Lewis - Last Man Standing (2006)
Paul Weller - 22 Dreams (2008)
Terry Hall (with Mushtaq) - The Hour of Two Lights (2003)
Dave Knophler
Dave Gilmour's "On An Island" was a pretty good album and Mark Knophler has released some really quite decent albums in the noughties. Both in their sixties now as is of course Bob Dylan, but I guess his recent albums have been mentioned.
Donald Fagen
Morph The Cat was a cracker, and I think it was even better than the 2 recent Steely Dan albums
Morph
Agreed, a wonderful record, overlooked even by the faithful. I play it from beginning to end regularly.
I'll third that.
Better than either of the more recent Dan releases.
And way superior to Walter Becker's somewhat laboured Circus Money.
Linda Thompson
Fashionably Late (2002).
17 years of silence broken by a very lovely record.
Versatile Heart
'Versatile Heart' is pretty good too. Then there's Norma Waterson's 'Bright Shiny Morning', also Waterson:Carthy's 'A Dark Light' and 'Fishes And Fine Yellow Sand'. I wasn't so keen on 'Holy Heathens And The Old Green Man' though.
Nobody's mentioned Robert Wyatt yet. Strange... I'd nominate both 'Cuckooland' and 'Comicopera'. Julian Cope is still turning out great mad stuff. 'Dark Orgasm' & 'You Gotta Problem With Me' are good. Nick Lowe's 'The Convincer' just edges 'At My Age' in my opinion, but it's a close thing.
Dave Alvins
album with the Guilty Women of this year is really excellent and the JJ Cale release this year is among his best.
Also the last Dr John cd is very good indeed - cant remember the title as my cds are all over the place and are in desperate need of some filing but it is the New Orleans one with the lower 911.
oh yes!
I fully agree on the Dave Alvin - did you get the live set from Golden Gate Park via archive.org ?
His "Ashgrove" was a storming album, too - 2004 (I just checked)
And the Dr John, too - I've played that one a lot. (Dr John & The Lower 911 - Sippiana Hericane)
What about these
Costello - Secret, Profane and Sugarcane, Momofuku, The River in Reverse, The Delivery Man, North and When I Was Cruel are all cracking albums.
Lucinda Williams - Essence, West and World Without Tears
Nick Lowe - The Convincer and At My Age
John Prine - Fair & Square
Bob Dylan - Together Through Life, Modern Life, Love & Theft
Look
I know I'm the only one that thinks this - but I reckon Shine by Joni Mitchell is a fine work. Particularly, the title track.
The thing is that - overall - it's got the sort of sound only she makes and that sound is better than the sound that almost anyone else makes. Ever.
A Joni fan writes
Sorry Sheev, I think Shine is a catastrophically bad album. I'm a big fan - or rather, was - and I always want to like her stuff, but most of Shine I find unlistenable, Hanna and the remake of Big Yellow Taxi being the worst. The title song and Night Of The Iguana are the only two that I can really stomach.
Oh I know
my view is likely to be a lonely one
I don't know
if it is a 'great' album but it certainly posesses greatness. In Space by Big Star.
Neil Diamond's first
Rick Rubin album wasn't bad at all (and the version of Delirious Love with Brian Wilson was a corker)
I'm with you on that on both counts
And I'd also like to add Al Stewart's
A Beach Full of Shells (2005)
and
Sparks of Ancient Light (2008)
Howza bout
Mulatu Astatke
Born 1943 and in 2009 brings out 'Inspiration Information Vol 3' one of the best albums of 2009.
Terry Callier
First album released in 1965,wonderful releases on Cadet in 70's,still touring and just released 'Hidden Conversations'.
Robert Wyatt
Word cover star brings out 'Comicopera' and gets one of the albums of the year acclaim in 2007.
I've banged on about this before but...
... I really do rate Yoko Ono's new album. It just works!
Finn Brothers - Everyone is Here 2004
Particular the very touching, "Won't Give In".
Blind Boys Of Alabama
'Spirit Of The Century'
featuring Word/Wire favourite "Down In The Hole" and released in 2001. Not sure how many of the original group sang on this one but it came out 50+ years after they first went into the recording studio.
How about the Man In Black?
The Man Comes Around.
Matthew Sweet's Living Things is a snorter and he's been knocking around for a bit.
The Fall
have released seven 'proper' albums in the noughties, six of which are superb.
Richard Thompson
I think The Old Kit Bag was in the Noughties wasn't it? Terrific collection of songs.
I agree about Patti Smith's Trampin'.
Then there's Stackridge - I've never even heard any of their earlier stuff, but A Victory For Common Sense is very good.
Warren Zevon...
and then he was gone - like The Wind
Jack Bruce - Shadows in the Air - excellent
Just clicked the up arrow
on the ones I agree with ie Randy, Levon, Donald Fagen.
Also the Beatles released - oh never mind
I would like to nominate
Kevin Ayers and 'The Unfairground'. It's a wonderful record. Great songs, slightly world weary but uplifting none the less. A genuine suprise and pleasure all these years of silence.
It's not hip..
but I thought Cat Stevens's album Roadsinger (sorry..I mean Yusuf) was an excellent listen and could easily have slotted into his classic early 70s output.
The Fall, Paul Weller, Madness, Kate Bush - Old Folks...?!
Thanks a bunch guys, they are not much older than me!
Pipe and slippers beckon...
Mary Weiss - Dangerous Game
Mary Weiss was the lead singer of the Shangri-Las : after a 30 year hiatus, she released this storming album with support from The Reigning Sound :
http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Game-Mary-Weiss/dp/B000N3SSQC
A great garage rock album. I don't know if she's really old enough for what you're after here but I'm sure she's got a few years on several of the others who have been nominated.
Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros
Global A Go Go from 2001. Joe was only 49 when it came out, so not really 'old' but one of my favourite albums by the dear old fella.
Johnny Appleseed is one of my favourite Strummer tunes from any period. Lovely. I spent the New Years Eve after his death dancing to this album with several other fans of the man raising several glasses. Whenever I hear this song I'm taken straight back to that winter.
Macca's
'Memory Almost Full' is his best since 'Ram'.
Agree with previous posters regarding the continuing wonders of the New York Dolls,Moz and Nick Lowe.
Oh, and Stackridge dammit.
John Fogerty
John Fogerty - Revival (2007) and his new one The Blue Ridge Rangers Ride Again is getting good reviews too.
Sonic Boom - Kiss
I know I live in a very different place musically to most of the Massive.
Anyway, I think Sonic Boom is a remarkable effort given the original band members are now in their 60's, started releasing albums back in the mid 70's, and have a back catalouge of studio stuff which is noteable only for its averageness.
Also - UFO's "Monkey Puzzle" released back in 2006 - their first album came out c.1970
you've put me in the mood for some UFO
I'll head over to Spotty and see what I can rustle up
update:
Blimey O'Riley! there's a raft of goodies
Lights Out has always been my favourite
Not sure about "The Visitor" which came out this year.
No Place to Run
sans the mental blonde guitarist but still my fave UFO ellpee, what colour of sleeve did you get? mine is greenish
UFO
Fine, fine band. Much underrated, methinks.
I was also going to nominate Blue Oyster Cult
I thought Heaven Forbid was one of their best, coming 26 years after their first, but it missed the noughties by 2 years. Sadly Curse Of The Hidden Mirror from 2001 wasn't as good. Still a cracking live act though.
And in response to James - green also.
"Still a cracking live act though.."
Indeed. Even if it is the Eric 'n' Buck show now plus sundry session players. Allen Lanier, currently on a sabbatical, seems to have slid back into the hole of addiction and he made a real difference to the band.
Mark Knopfler and Emmylou Harris
All The Road Running
Bert Jansch
(and friends)
Black Swan from a couple of years back was fabulous
The Bonzos
Their recent Pour l'amour Des Chiens was fab and used new associate Bonzos Stephen Fry and Ade Edmundson particularly well. I was a bit hesitant about the idea when I first heard about it but it won me over.
And another nod of approval for the mentions of Sparks.
How about...
Siouxsie - 'Mantaray'
Christy Moore - 'Burning Times'
I think the album Steve Cropper recently made with Felix Cavaliere had great bits...
And does anyone else in the world like Elton John's 'Songs from the West Coast'...?
No one has mentioned Bruce
The Canadian one that is, known to their taxman as Mr Cockburn.
He began his recording career in 1970, a couple of years before Bruce S, and has produced two albums in this decade, You've Never Seen Everything and (the not as good) Life Short Call Now as well as a splendid, career retrospective live album earlier this year, Slice O' Life.
Scott Walker
While most other artists have gone from 60's cutting edge to - let's be polite - mainstream, Scott's taken the opposite journey: 60's pop to the sophisticated solo albums to the ground-breaking work of today. "The Drift" remains an astonishing piece of work.
Allen Toussaint
Only discovered the real brilliance of Mr. Toussaint in last 2 years.
- River in Reverse with the other Elvis and his brilliant solo album:
"The Bright Mississippi".
Slightly outside of scope but must mention the live comeback of Laughing Lenny.
Everything Must Go...
By the Dan must be there, didn't get the Grammy'TM' like TAN, but superior to me. Red rag time, do people on this board take Madness seriously? Chancers surely.
XTC
Apple Venus and Wasp Star are their best ever for my money.
Glen Campbell
Meet Glen Campbell. Apart from the Travis song, which he does well it's a very good covers album.
Neil Young - Prairie Wind
RL Burnside - Burnside on Burnside
Wanda Jackson - Heart Trouble
Kraftwerk - Tour de France
Tony Allen - Secret Agent
Lee Scratch Perry - Jamaican ET
Leonard Cohen - Dear Heather
All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream...
I was recalling this thread last night at the Word Awards. But my memory was that it was a request for nominations for artists, not in the mainstream, who have been around for a long, long time, but are still producing the goods, because Word was going to select some for an article.
I managed to confuse Fraser among others. Sorry about that.
Ahhhhhh
Now I remember.