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Heavy Metal Brittania

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Well that was rubbish. Who knew heavy metal was so boring? A major come down from the prog and synth programmes. I get the impression it was made without as much enthusiasm. They didn’t seem to interview that many people and the archives didn’t feel half as raided as they should be. I was plain bored by it.

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I caught the end of this

and saw Bruce Dickinson.
I was aware that he is an eloquent and erudite chap, and my respect for him has increased. I could have listened to him for longer.
In my youth I thought Iron Maiden were an awful joke, I'm not saying I like it now, but I do 'get' it.

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Adman | 6 March 2010 - 11:12am

Bit clinical ...and dodgy revisionism.

Thought it was overlong, and, yes, a bit dull. The Birmingham olde worlde went on faaaaaar too long, and inadvertently set a rather laboured tone for the rest of the 90-minutes. Whilst the pace was at times refreshing, equally it also indulged odd factors at the expense of others. May have worked better as a chapter-based two-parter, with greater emphasis put on the original movement in the first hour; then New Wave of British Heavy metal in the second, showing how - and why - it evolved, and went international.

For the best part, I've enjoyed the Britannia series, but by divorcing British outputs from their global counterparts it can risk, as I think occurred with last night's Heavy Metal, becoming too insular, and as a result, clinical. It might have been more engaging to see how Motorhead crossed the pond to influence Metallica, Megadeath and Guns N'Roses; and how the Americans responded with Glam Metal, etc.

Having been involved with a Heavy Metal project for C4, I know that certain acts can be sniffy about being lumped in under that title. I'm assuming Def Leppard didn't appear for that very reason. However, to write them out of the story was to leave a major hole in the NWOBHM story, as metal ventured ever more towards the mainstream, resulting in multi-million sellers like Pyromania and Hysteria. These in turn have their own stories to tell about the manifestation of metal into chart rock during the mid-eighties.

Producers will always tell the story based on what they have, however, to gloss over Zeppelin so much, and to completely ignore Def Leppard so much (and only give a few minutes to Maiden), and cut off before the rather bizarre, but nevertheless, curious tales of sub-genre acts like Napalm Death (who only appeared via that two-shot of the lads sitting on the bed, in a suburban bedroom) seemed revisionist to me.

Granted, you can't tell EVERY strand of the story, but nevertheless, I think these, supposed, comprehensive Britannia documentaries can be a bit too selective.

When BBC4 tackled the Scottish scene a few months ago, I noticed, and felt somewhat itchy about the lack of Love & Money, Hipsway and Texas. If I was a younger person, and used that documentary to learn about my pop heritage, I would have come away without any knowledge of people that played a bigger part of said story than the makers chose to tackle.

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the_saint | 6 March 2010 - 11:30am

Agreed - whould've been better as Chapters

Part 1: the Origins (Led Zep, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath etc)
Part 2: NWOBHM
Part 3: "Evolution" (sub-genres (Thrash, Death, influence on American bands, legacy)

The Birmingham angle, whilst valid in its argument (eg heavy industry, British Steel) did seem a bit contrived to introduce Black Sabbath & Judas Priest

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Rigid Digit | 6 March 2010 - 4:05pm

Agree with your agreed..

I think that it dropped off towards the end. There wasn't any of the modern stuff - whither Venom? Napalm Death? Godflesh? All of these British bands have been highly influential and really deserved airtime. We didn't need so much time on the Purps, Sabs, Zep etc.

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Grant | 6 March 2010 - 5:36pm

The early 'Britannias' were three parters

but the last couple (Synth, 'Prog', Heavy Metal) have switched to a shallower one-part format

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stimpy | 6 March 2010 - 5:51pm

totally agree but

it was still enjoyable nonetheless

some of my personal faves like UFO (too Welsh?), Thin Lizzy (too Irish) and SAHB (too Jock?) were missing

it has increased my admiration of Irn Middin (I allas had a problem with Bruce Bruce Dick-less-one, even he came across well) to the point that I am actively updating the metal section of the archive

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James Blast | 6 March 2010 - 6:35pm

Well....

...Budgie are pretty damn Welsh, and they were there, so I don't think it was deliberate national discrimination ;)

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Bob | 6 March 2010 - 7:03pm

this is where

smileys are required

just so happens UFO were one of my faves, TL I only really got into about 6-7 years ago and SAHB were thee very first live band I evah! saw

I did my time with Budgie and apart from some killer, it was mainly filler boyo :D

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James Blast | 6 March 2010 - 7:26pm

Bargepole can only speculate

that you can only work with what's available, and if some acts are prepared to make themselves available to the programme makers and others aren't then the resulting output is inevitably skewed.

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bargepole | 6 March 2010 - 11:49am

This Boy Wonders ...

.. why Bargepole always refers to himself in the third person. Is this a stylistic affectation, like posing questions and then proceeding to answering them straight away? I can't say.

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busker_du | 6 March 2010 - 4:33pm

This has been discussed at length before here

Have a root through the past posts if you are curious....but be prepared for a long read!

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Uncle Wheaty | 6 March 2010 - 5:49pm

The subsequent 'HM At The BBC' had a few good clips

amongst the well-worn TOTP appearances.

Good to see Budgie on the Whistle Test and Uriah Heep (from a TOTP?)

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stimpy | 6 March 2010 - 12:36pm

who was that fright

in Dave Byron's place, I spotted a Spider on bass so my time with ver Heep was long over?

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James Blast | 6 March 2010 - 7:28pm

I really enjoyed it.

I have a big soft spot for almost all the bands featured, from Edgar Broughton through to Maiden. I have always really liked Rob Halford and Bruce Dickinson - they're interesting, well-informed, funny people - and they were featured heavily, so I was happy.

So yeah, I had a good night in front of it.

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Bob | 6 March 2010 - 12:50pm

Aerie Fairie nonsense

if you like the Broughton's you might like this
spotify:album:1F06t9VlhNJuBKBfIvIiSG
The Pink Fairies ~ Finland Freak Out

Heavy as feck!

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James Blast | 6 March 2010 - 7:33pm
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