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Great Musical Mistakes

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The young, dirt-poor Charlie Parker was apparantly too intimidated to question his saxophone teacher, being so grateful to be given the opportunity to learn. So when he was asked to learn to play the scales he learnt them all, inside out and back to front, rather than just the usual ones then used for alto saxophone. In doing so, he inadvertantly created the beginnings of Bee-Bop.

Miles Davis couldn't play very fast so instead concentrated on playing long slow notes full of expression and focused on really listening to and interpreting the melody.

Django Reinhardt just didn't have enough fingers, so had to create a whole new way of playing. The story goes that the Kinks got their distinctive sound from a torn speaker cone. And I seem to remember something about the Phil Spector Wall of Sound coming about by accident?

Whether in the Arts, Sciences, Engineering or any area of creative endeavour, it seems that lucky accidents have led to some of the greatest innovations. The genius of course lies in recognising the mistake as something special.

Over the years, i've heard so many examples but the ones above are the only ones I can remember in any detail.

What other examples of great musical mistakes do you know of?

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The seagull effect...

...Pink Floyd used on Echoes (and Embryo? can't remember) came about when David Gilmour inadvertently plugged his wah-wah pedal in the wrong way around.

Feedback in general was an accidental consequence of the increase in volume and size of amplification...

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nicktf | 15 January 2012 - 7:00pm

Myth

In truth if you plug a wah wah in the wrong way round it simply won't work. Good story though. The seagull noises are made with a bottleneck.

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Twangothan | 15 January 2012 - 10:36pm

Well, 'tis all over the net...

http://www.guitarsoundeffects.com/pink-floyd-echoes-the-seagull-effect

Doesn't sound like a slide to me....

Nick Mason also mentions it in his book, so...

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nicktf | 16 January 2012 - 12:41am

Fair enough

There's a YouTube demo of someone doing it which seems to support the case.

All I can say is if I plug my wah wah in backwards it doesn't work. Must be something to do with the wah wah he used that the input is also an output, or something. Still not convinced .... :-)

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Twangothan | 16 January 2012 - 9:56am

As a data point...

...it doesn't work on my SG and Cry Baby either :-)

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nicktf | 16 January 2012 - 7:54pm

Lee Thompson

learnt to play his "acquired" saxophone by self teaching, but played all his parts in the wrong key.
When he became aware of this mistake, he re-learnt all his sax parts in the correct key.
Madness never sounded the same again, and split up soon after

(This story may be an urban myth, as I can't find any specific evidence to back up my long held belief that this is true)

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Rigid Digit | 15 January 2012 - 7:16pm

"99% True"

In the sleevenotes of the recent Madness box-set A Guided Tour Of, Alan Winstanley says this:

"On the first album Lee didn't know the sax was a B-flat instrument so the mouthpiece wasn't really screwed on, but he learned and became really good."

In Terry Edwards' 33 1/3 book about One Step Beyond, he writes:

"The saxophone is what's known as a transposing instrument. [...] In the early days, Lee could be playing a tone or semitone out with the rest of the band and he'd try to compensate for this by pulling the mouthpiece almost entirely off the saxophone. [...] I think that Lee's distinctive tone is a result of his battle with transposition as much as anything."

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Stratosphear | 15 January 2012 - 10:02pm

So how

Did Bob Holness achieve his distinctive tone on Baker Street?

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keefus | 16 January 2012 - 9:30am

Someone should ask

Gerry .... oh, sorry....

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Mousey | 16 January 2012 - 9:33am

id never heard that one. he

id never heard that one. he doesnt sound out of tune on the records though. Surely he should have just went back to what had worked.

it does suond like a bit of an urban myth to me though, I have to say, unless anyone else knows otherwise.

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Charlie Mingles | 15 January 2012 - 7:32pm

Further to the above

The beginning of the end for Madness (first time around) was the departure of Mike Barson, whose keyboards and songwriting were sorely missed from the Mad Not Mad album recorded after he left. Its relative lack of commercial success, plus an apparently disastrous tour of Australia, were the main factors behind their disbanding in 1986.

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Stratosphear | 15 January 2012 - 10:11pm

Tony Iommi

Not sure- but was he not short in the finger department? Or short fingers- the tips were missing?

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piggers | 15 January 2012 - 8:00pm

Two fingertips, I think

An accident in the ironworks where he was employed. I have heard him say in a documentary that someone gave him a Django record to help him realise that he could still make music.

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Gatz | 15 January 2012 - 8:19pm

The Sabbath Sound

I'm not sure on this, but I remember reading that this contributed to the creation of the Sabbath sound as he loosened the strings on his guitar to be able to play them more comfortably with the thimble-type things he wore on the fingers.

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Hawkfall | 16 January 2012 - 3:01am

Giorgio Moroder

spent an age laying down the backing track to I Feel Love (in the days of analogue), only to realise he'd recorded it in the wrong key.
Donna Summer had to sing falsetto and a disco classic was born.

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Brookster | 15 January 2012 - 8:16pm

I always like Kit Hain's

story that the extraordinary "distant thunder" sound at the beginning of Dancing in the City came when she knocked over an amp:

As for the explosion at the top of the song -- that was one of those serendipitous events. One day, rehearsing the song, I was sitting on my Roland Chorus Reverb amp, tipping it forwards. Then, just as Bob was finishing the count-off, my bum slipped and the amp fell backwards, setting off the mechanical spring reverb. Bob said, 'We must keep that!'

http://www.stereosociety.com/khdancing.shtml

About 11 secs in here I think, after the ad:

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SpaceBoy | 15 January 2012 - 8:30pm

Four Tops - If I Was A Carpenter

The harpsichord (or whatever it is) is out of pitch.

Ditto the saxophone (or whatever) on 808 State's Pacific.

Really darling, I'm used to working with professionals.

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Moose the Mooche | 15 January 2012 - 8:32pm

Johnny Marr's tremeloed riff on How Soon Is Now

was a bit of an accident, stumbled across when his original effect-free guitar part was played back through his amp. What came out was the juddering tremelo effect that makes the record so colossal. How Soon Is Now was then patiently put together by Marr and John Porter fidgeting about with the tremelo knobs on the Fender Twins while the tapes rolled. If you like, you could take 5 mins and read more about it here:

http://philspector.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/marrs-barres/

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phil spector | 15 January 2012 - 8:47pm

Plain Or Pan

One of my favourite blogs, well worth a visit, very much a 'Word' sort of blog.

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SimonL | 16 January 2012 - 12:17am

The Fantabulosas - Long Long Long

The vibrating wine-bottle/wail thing at the end (see Ian McDonald's account). Well improvised, P & G.

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Moose the Mooche | 15 January 2012 - 10:36pm

And

R.

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ianess | 15 January 2012 - 10:46pm

Spookily...

...the two posts above are about 'How Soon Is Now' and 'Long, Long, Long' - two of my favourite songs, which I recommended my friend Janet Holmes record on her 2004 CD 'The Road To The West'. I've posted youtube audio of both around here before, so won't do so now. A rare coincidence though... :-)

Another example of accident/serendipity concerns the LZ track 'Celebration Day'. Apparently an engineer accidentally erased the original, fiddly intro on the multi-track hence the (very effective replacement) drone used to lead into the song as released.

Also, is it the case that Lee Brilleux shouting 'Eight bars of piano" at the start of the middle-eight (devoid of piano or any other lead instrument as released) on Dr Feelgood's hit 'Down At The Doctor's' was a bit of serendipity? It sounds just right as it is - a wry joke or whatever, maybe a case of expecting to overdub piano later but deciding on just going with the relentless groove of the song.

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Colin H | 16 January 2012 - 12:29am

Everyone know about the time Sting accidentally sat on a piano?

You do? Oh well, as you were.

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Stick | 16 January 2012 - 12:17am

Johnny Greenwood

claims that the great crunchy guitar sounds just before the chorus of 'Creep' was his attempt to break the monotony of a rather boring tune. (his words)

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DogFacedBoy | 16 January 2012 - 12:38am

The Mahavishnu

Orchestra

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Dave Amitri | 16 January 2012 - 12:43am

Very...

...good!* :-D

(* But completely wrong.)

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Colin H | 16 January 2012 - 1:48am

Not a great mistake per se, but...

Micky Dolenz passed the audition to become a Monkee, and was given tuition in playing drums. However, no-one thought to check whether he was right or left-handed, and so he (a southpaw) was taught to play a kit set up for right-handers.

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B Smith | 16 January 2012 - 3:27am

Ringo was also a left-hander...

...who played a right-handed kit, wasn't he?

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Paolo Meccano | 16 January 2012 - 12:37pm

Yep

And that explains a lot of his style - not least his eccentric fills

I love Ringo's drumming, as has often been pointed out he swang like Battersea Funfair

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FakeGeordie | 16 January 2012 - 12:57pm

Whereas John Lever

Drummer in Mancunian 80s indie band The Chameleons learnt to play by copying Phil Collins set up from a photograph, not realising that his inspiration played left handed. He must therefore be the only right handed drummer who plays everything the other way round. (Anecdote from Mark Burgess in his autobiography, View From A Hill)

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RS65 | 22 January 2012 - 7:44pm

Louie Louie

Originally recorded by it's writer, Richard Berry; then covered by Rockin' Robin Roberts who had a regional hit with it in the Seattle area. This record was heard by one of The Kingsmen, who got it wrong when he taught it to the rest of the band, "which," said Richard Berry, "I'm really glad about."

It could also be said the FBI made a mistake when they spent two years investigating alleged obscenities in the lyrics and concluded "unintelligible at any speed," thus making the record even more popular.

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Sir Tainley Gno... | 16 January 2012 - 8:13am

"While You See a Chance", by Steve Winwood: I seem to

remember reading that he accidentally scrubbed the drums at the start, hence the long intro before they come in (i.e. they were originaly in, all the way from the beginning).
On listening back to what he thought would be a calamitous error he liked the effect and left it in.

If, that is, I remember that story correctly...good record, anyway!

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iainiain | 16 January 2012 - 11:08am

Orange Juice/New Order/Tubeway Army

IIRC, Orange Juice's "Rip It Up" came about as the band were trying to cover a Chic song, and quite simply couldn't play it fast enough.

The "Blue Monday" we all know and love is the 2nd version of the song, after the first was totally wiped from the computer when it was accidentally unplugged... the band insist they never managed to replicate the feel of the the far better original.

And the "DAH-DER!" stab in Gary Numan/Tubeway Army's "Are 'Friends' Electric?" was a mistake that sounded better than the originally intended notes.

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Metal Mickey | 16 January 2012 - 11:39am

V2 Schneider

Bowie accidentally inverts the sax riff on the intro but they all liked it and it stayed in

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FakeGeordie | 16 January 2012 - 12:31pm

Its no Game

Bowie's singing on the opening track to Scarey Monsters is pushed to the extremes but is it out of tune? Wasn't accidental so doesn't really fit this thread but thrilling use of something that is wrong but sounds incredible because of it.

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wickerman1138 | 16 January 2012 - 1:32pm

The Jean Genie

It always sounds to me like Ronson goes into the first chorus a bar too early. The bit I mean is at about 0:37.

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StuartReeves | 16 January 2012 - 9:41pm

Rebel rebel

Bowie's guitar (for tis the Dame himself) is all over the shop. And it's ace.

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Moose the Mooche | 20 January 2012 - 1:08am

It's the bass player that goes early

isn't it?

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Mousey | 20 January 2012 - 2:48am

A-wop bop-a loo-mop, a-lop bam-boom

The famous hook to the Little Richard song came with him trying to teach the drummer how he wanted a drum fill to go at the end of each verse. They quickly realised Little Richard singing it was better than the drummer could do it.

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Twangothan | 16 January 2012 - 1:10pm

And yet....

...if the drummer HAD mastered that fill, and then repeated it several times, he would have invented the Bo Diddly Beat (or at least a flowerier version of it)!

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Colin H | 16 January 2012 - 1:37pm

The Fall

Was reading 'The Fallen' last night and there is an anecdote about a track on The Frenz Experiment containing a blast of another song as ME Smith took the tapes home and sat on the tape recorder thus recording a brief snatch of someone elses song over his own.

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wickerman1138 | 16 January 2012 - 1:34pm

More Fabs

The intro of I Feel Fine-accidental feedback from a semi-acoustic

See under "structure" here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Feel_Fine

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Richie B | 16 January 2012 - 1:35pm

U2

Didn't Bono lose all the lyrics for an early album and have to rapidly write some new ones?

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wickerman1138 | 16 January 2012 - 1:35pm

U2

Didn't Bono lose all the lyrics for an early album and have to rapidly write some new ones?

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wickerman1138 | 16 January 2012 - 1:36pm

This sounds a bit odd

I mean how many lyrics would there have been? Maybe he just came up with some much better ones in the middle of a creative explosion? Interesting...

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FakeGeordie | 16 January 2012 - 1:44pm

True

Bono carried all his scribbled notes and lyric ideas around with him in a brief case.
Prior to the recording of October, the briefcase was nicked.
The studio time was already booked, so into recording they went with Bono trying to remember what he'd written, and improvising new lyrics.

The briefcase was eventually recovered in October 2004, and Bono greeted its return as "an act of grace".

Source: Wikipedia

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Rigid Digit | 16 January 2012 - 9:28pm

Bleurgh

Bono greeted its return as "an act of grace".

He couldn't just say 'Thank you', or 'Oh that's nice surprise', could he?

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keefus | 22 January 2012 - 3:26pm

Not so much a mistake

but didn't Rock n Roll on the 4th Led Zeppelin album come about because Bonham got frustrated with Page trying to get a particular drum sound for Four Sticks, that Bonzo just couldn't get the hang of. In his frustration he launched into a completely different drum pattern, that the others immediately picked up on and the song Rock n Roll was put down on tape there and then.

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Carl Parker | 16 January 2012 - 2:15pm

Mumford & Sons

Frontman Marcus owes his grizzly voice to his habit of eating up to six poor people a week.

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Spartacus Mills | 16 January 2012 - 3:12pm

Neil and the band are half way through Cortez the Killer

when the power in the control room inexplicably goes out. Since the equipment in the studio itself is still on, the group continues playing, unaware of the rising panic on the other side of the glass. Without warning the electricity flips back on and the console resumes recording perfectly in sync with where the feed had dropped out - hence the lyrical non sequitur between verses two and three in the finihed version. If you listen on headphones carefully enough you can hear the join. At least, that's the way I got told it.

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skirky | 16 January 2012 - 4:09pm

Coldplay

being allowed within a million light years of a recording facility.

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count jim moriarty | 16 January 2012 - 4:55pm

"A Million Lightyears

of a Recording Facility" is one of my favourite Coldplay tracks

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Dave Amitri | 17 January 2012 - 12:53am

Neu! - Neu! 2

I remember reading (maybe in Julian Cope's book?) that the entire second side - basically consisting of sped up or slowed down remixes of existing tracks - owes its existence to Neu! running out of money halfway through.

It doesn't exactly improve the album, but it has its merits as a gesture. And it still sounds better than Coldplay.

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man.of.soup | 17 January 2012 - 1:44pm

A lot of "If..." is in black and white

because they ran out of colour film. It works brilliantly.

I know "If" is a film and not a record, but it fits in with this thread's idea of happy accidents.

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Moose the Mooche | 17 January 2012 - 3:08pm

I feel love

I heard on a documentary once that Giorgio Moroder asked an engineer to programme the sequencer at a slow speed and came back later to discover it had been programmed wrong and had came out all fast.....

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DaveT | 22 January 2012 - 2:52pm

Someone got there before me...

...and I missed it.

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Pax Romana | 22 January 2012 - 4:41pm

you got the love - candi staton

....everything stinks on this song,the synth is out of tune,the bass and the singing - though the original 1986 'disco' version is o.k.
Even the Florence version is rancid - and worse when Dizee Rascal buts in.

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magranus | 22 January 2012 - 4:52pm
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