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great misunderstood songs
Posted by Tom McGalpine on 16 November 2011 - 11:53am.
According to a friend who has played in a wedding band for more years than he'd care to admit "When A Man Loves A Woman" is one of the most requested songs in his playlist. Now, everyone knows the song (original title "Why Did You Leave Me Baby" - a bit of a clue there, I'd suggest) but obviously no-one ever really listens to it since it's effectively a tale about a man who loves him partner so much he's blinded to all the rotten things she does to him.
"he'd give up all his comforts
and sleep out in the rain
if she said that's way it ought to be"
Indeed!
Can anyone think of other songs where the popular perception is similarly so at odds with the writer's intended meaning.
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Born in the USA
Being the first one that springs to mind.
Springsteen's howl of anguish for the return of a Vietnam vet railing against the appalling and divisive Reaganomics that have left him in poverty and desolation = Recast by the Republican right as a chest thumping anthem almost on a par with the Star Spangled Banner.
The "80's" gated drum type production didn't help once removed from the original Nebraska settings.
This Land is your Land
Didn't the Republicans appropriate this one as well?
Don't know about that
He actually started writing it in 1981 when Jimmy Carter's Presidency was coming to an end and I'm not sure the Republicans did appropriate it. It was Chrysler or one of the car companies that tried to use it. I think Reagan said in a speech "Bruce may have been born to run but he wasn't born yesterday".
Chrysler - yes of course...
Reagan's tenure was 1980 - 1988 might have been inaugurated in January 81- I think he was also shot in 1981.
Keep up man!
Everyone just knows that Bruce wrote that song as a specific critique of Reagan's presidency, Carter's preceding four years having been a universal boon to blue-collar USA. Your post, while it may be nitpickingly correct, ignores the broader narrative and therefore, I'm, afraid, the deeper truth.
let's get the obvious one out of the way then...
Every breath you take - the Police...
NOT a sweet lovesong.
Whitney Houston/Dolly Parton
I Will Always Love You. I think most understand the tone of Dolly P's version (if they had heard it which plenty hadn't of course) but when Whitney did her "sing loudly and take no notice of the lyrics" version, people took it as a straight love song.
My cousin had it had her wedding. How lovely: "If I should stay, I'd only get in your way" sung three hours after exchange of vows.
Ill-advised wedding choices
Of course the (ahem) classic to have is Careless Whisper.
Though the maddest I ever witnessed personally was when the couple chose Bat Out Of Hell for the first dance and then the very pissed groom chose this moment to take off his clothes, on the dancefloor.
my sister
had "Nothing Else Matters"..
As did mine.
Are you my brother?
The Chorus Giveth
...the verse taketh away. It was always thus.
You're Gorgeous
Yes you. You are.
Where was I? Snogging couples at indie clubs and (in latter years) weddings bear testament to the fact that lyrics are generally irrelevant if the chorus is nice. Consequently Baby Bird's tale of a young girl persuaded by a lascivious photographer to pose for lewd photos is translated into 'I fancy you' and little more.
"My ding a ling,
My ding a ling, I want you to play with my ding a ling."
Oh no, actually that one wasn't misunderstood.
As you were.
I do wish
Somebody had told me this earlier
I have come to realise
That very, very few 'so called' love songs are straightforward declarations of love as they might first appear. It must have something to do with the artist's fervent wish to not appear mawkish and sentimental that there is usually a twist or an undercurrent which makes them a questionable choice at a wedding.
eg Lou Reed 'It's such a Perfect Day, I'm glad I spent it with you' but later ... 'You're gonna reap just what you sow' - a tad threatening perhaps? In fairness, you would think twice about a love song from sweetheart Lou, wouldn't you. Perfect Day was probably about heroin anyway.
The amount of weddings i've been to where..
"Band of Gold" by Freda Payne has been played !
Good one
It's about splitting up on the first night of the honeymoon, isn't it? Evidently no-one listens to words.
I'm Not In Love by 10cc is certainly about feigned indifference, but it might also be about excuses for non-performance. Maybe.
I went to a wedding not long back...
...where the second song after the traditional first song (If I Should Fall Behind - great choice) was So Sad About Us by The Who!
Presumed it was a in-joke I missed somewhere down the track. Both on the second marriage so could well have been I suppose. But still....
Weird song
I wait in the darkness of my lonely room
Filled with sadness, filled with gloom
Hoping soon that you'll walk
Back through that door
And love me like you tried before
'TRIED before'!
There must be a back story here.
Is it not...
...about impotence? I always (well perhaps not always, but certainly for many, many years) thought so.
I guess it is
Still, how very weird.
Some male sexual problem, certainly
Maybe he was quick on the trigger, maybe he couldn't raise more than a smile, but he's sulking in the next room.
My dad
Always claimed they had Fight The Good Fight as their wedding hymn.
Hey Jude
"It's about Julian Lennon" - that's what people will tell you.
I don't agree. I think it's a song to comfort a teenager who has failed to get the girl, and encouraging them to, ahem, "take comfort in their own company".
That certainly explains what "The movement you need is on your shoulder" means. And "you're waiting for someone to perform with".
I firmly believe it is one of the most subversive songs of all time. No wonder Lennon liked it so much.
Ooh! Does this mean I can come out now
in saying I've always thought The Everly Brothers' "All I Have To Do Is Dream" is only so-called because "masturbate" doesn't scan?
Brother, I've tried the "dreaming" method - you just end up naked in the exam hall again...
Teenage Kicks
I am sure I heard that "hold her tight" was, originally, "hold it tight". It was written as a straightforward song about wanking.
Turning Japanese by The Vapours
was about masturbation, as any fule kno
I listened to this song today for the first time in ages
and - whaddaya know - "masturbate" fits perfectly. The way they have to stretch "dre-e-eam" to fill the line adds to my suspicion that it wasn't their first thought.
Bit of a problem with "gee whizz I'm dreaming my life away" (It would have to be "tossing.." I suppose, which works on two levels).
I'm sensing a potential Christmas Number One if someone records a quick cover. Anyone got Cliff's number?
Tory Conference 2011
playing The New Radicals You Get What You Give as Cameron walks out. Includes the following lyrics:
With a video
depicting a riot in a shopping centre.
Nice research all round.
Another well-known one
The One I Love by R.E.M. Michael Stipe wanted it left off Document because it was such a nasty lyric ('a simple prop to occupy my time' indeed), but that didn't stop couples wanting it played.
I find that genuinely hilarious.
It's so venomous, that song, and the most casual listen to the lyrics should reveal that it's not exactly designed for the DJ to dedicate to all the ladies. Especially the payoff: "another prop has occupied my time".
Nasty nasty. But funny funny.
He's done it a couple of times
Strange Currencies is another one that at first sounds like a love song, but I'm sure he's said it was about a stalker.
More REM
I think I'm right in saying that the fairly innocuous sounding, "What's the frequency Kenneth", was a true story about a DJ that was kicked to death while his tormenter chanted the DJ's catch-phrase, "What's the frequency?"
Is this familiar to anyone else, or did I dream it?
I think it was
Dan Rather (US news anchor) who got a kicking (not to death) and reported that his assailants used this curious phrase.
Dan Rather
It was newsreader Dan Rather, and I'm glad to say the attack wasn't fatal.
The Wiki entry has some background http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What's_the_Frequency,_Kenneth%3F
Jolean's mention of the
Jolean's mention of the popular "sing loudly and take no notice of the lyrics" school of artistes reminds me of the shining example of stupidity foisted on the world by dead eyed Mary J Blige when she sang
"looking out on the morning rain,
I used to feel so inspired"
If you feel so inspired rather than, say, uninspired what in God's name are you complaining about, woman?
Here's someone who understands the words
What, precisiely, is the big deal about MJ Bilge?
For most of my adult life people have bashed on about her being a cut above the usual melismatic purveyors of tuppenny sentiment, but I just can't hear it. The best I can say for her is that she's sometimes, but only sometimes, been nearly as good as Whitney Houston at her worst.
Another Bilge denier
She. Can't. Sing.
Incidentally, am I the only one who thinks the first verse and chorus of Whitney Houston's version of I Will Always Love You are rather lovely? It's only after that that the horrid caterwauling starts.
Thank goodness it's not just
Thank goodness it's not just me... She's always been Mary J Bilge as far as I'm concerned!
Whitney
Rosbif, I agree with you about Whitney. First verse & chorus lovely and then disaster. Same for a lot of her songs. As you know, I do love a soul belter, but Whitney just treads all over the good starts she makes on her records. First LP has a couple of lovely songs and she hadn't yet got that "diva confidence" to caterwaul over them.
As for Mary J, I like a couple of songs (No More Drama and with Missy). Again her first LP is far more low-key. Still not keen though. The lack of any subtlety is a real problem for me.
Re awful performances of great songs...
I recall getting Angelique Kidjo's new album to review and being really excited about it. Then this came up... One of the worst things I've ever heard thanks to Ms Stone...
Trevor, it's not so
Trevor,
it's not so much that the performance is awful (it is) It's more that she's wholly failed to understand the basis premise of the song. Prior to meeting the man of her dreams Aretha's life was unfulfilled.
Looking out on the morning rain
I used to feel uninspired
And when I knew I had to face another day
Lord, it made me feel so tired
Before the day I met you, life was so unkind
But your love was the key to peace my mind
The key term is "uninspired." Mary J is such a buffoon that she "used to feel inspired." Everything else that follows her opening line then makes absolutely no sense!! Aretha makes it a song of ecstasy, possibly the greatest record ever made on the subject of female sexuality. Mary J only sounds passionate because that's what's she thinks is expected of a modern day soul diva. She;s an a*se. Rant over.
God Only Knows...
I know it is regarded as sacred by many on here and as a declaration of devotion and love by the general public and DJs but as I posted here recently it has always come across as a passive/aggressive suicide note to me...
I may not always love you
But long as there are stars above you
You never need to doubt it
I'll make you so sure about it
God only knows what I'd be without you
If you should ever leave me
Though life would still go on believe me
The world could show nothing to me
So what good would living do me...
you say that
as if it was a bad thing...
Yeah..
Mrs Neilio wanted "God Only Knows" as the first dance at our wedding. I managed to talk her out of it as i thought the first line didn't seem appropriate for the occasion!
Yeah but...
...isn't that negated by the following 3 lines...?
...but then there's the second verse...
"the world could show nothing to me,
so what good would living do me".
As for "I'll make you so sure about it", sounds like stalkers I've known over the years. It has the vibe that the object of his affection has very little say in the matter. Of course, this being Brian Wilson, the whole song could be about his favourite sandwich. I'll never forget a picture of Brian in Select magazine (I think) looking at his most out there and out of shape captioned "I hate myself and I want a pie". Sub-editing of the highest quality.
I'm not in love
Yes you bloody well are.
ps - Not enough 10cc around here.
I'll never fall in love again...
Yes you will dear, We all know you will!
Sheer dedication care of Elvis and Willie ...
Maybe I didn't love you
Quite as often as I could have
Maybe I didn't treat you
Quite as good as I should have
If I made you feel second best
I'm so sorry I was blind ... (BUT)
You were always on my mind
(So that's ok then)
Phylis Nelson Move Closer
Adding to the theme of inappropriate wedding disco songs...we all know what it is about, but the spoken intro clearly states "Hey Baby! You go your way, and I'll go mine, but in the meantime...", so it's more of parting shag than a love song.
Washing machine sex...
On Aerial, didn't Kate Bush have a song about a washing machine that was really all about sex? Indeed Ms Bush seems to have a predilection for such things (in my mind at least!) as I genuinely fall inot the camp that says Running Up The Hill is about rumpy-pumpy also - and her desire by to have her partner 'change places' to see how it feels for her. Even if it isn't, I'm going to continue thinking it is...ahem...
Meanwhile, Hey Jude was not written for Julian Lennon (see earlier post) as far as I understand it. It was for a (possibly lesbian?)female friend of Paul McCartney who was hesitating over a potential relationship.
"Happy Birthday Sweet Sixteen"
The upbeat jaunty nature of the melody hides a sordid lyrical content. Shame on you Mr Sedaka
Running Up that Hill
It has never occurred to me that there is any other possible interpretation than sex. What others have been suggested?
Two people
are attempting to run up a hill. The one on the left reckons she's got a bum deal and wants swapsies.
Sex? Tch!
Kate herself
I recall an interview with La Bush, or at least I think I do, where she said it was about wanting to experience sex from the other sex point of view.
Maybe that was just a weird dream I had.
Not just sex I think
But to see the world through your partner's eyes - and I am pretty sure I also read an interview where that question was asked - I nearly said, explicitly. But when it comes to KB its hard not to concentrate on the erotic - she sang so much about sex (to the detriment of my sanity as a teenager)
You mean it's not about two kids fetching a pail of water?
I Can See For Miles
Without properly listening to the lyrics, I used to think this Who track was a psychedelic song about expanding your mind, man.
It's nothing of the sort but actually about sexual jealousy in a relationship. Apparently, Townshend came up with the idea when his other half warned him not to play around on a world tour as she will find out. "I can see for miles, Pete, see for miles."
I did entertain the idea that the song was about a guide dog who's owner is called Miles and was pre owned by four other men all called Miles. Oh yeah.
Young Hearts Run Free
The amount of times I've seen a stampede to the dance floor when this comes on, but the lyrics are unbelievably sad
First three lines:
What's the sense in sharing this one and only life
Ending up, just another lost and lonely wife
You count up the years, and they will be filled with tears
Weird one
I have rarely seen so many beaming faces as when (still great) Candi Staton did this live. Power to the Sisters.
Rock the Casbah
Strummer's tongue-in-cheek story about (am I right in saying?) the fall of the Shah of Iran became a US forces favourite during both Iraq wars, much to his disgust.
Elton & Bernie's "Daniel"
Nice song about a little brother misty-eyed at big bruv heading off to Spain, "the best place he's ever seen"?
No, Daniel's going to VIETNAM! He's just saying he's going to Spain so little brother doesn't get upset! And it's not even his first tour of duty ("he should know, he's been there enough"), no wonder his "eyes have died"...
[Apparently there was an extra verse that made this obvious, but Elt dumped it as the song was too long anyway.]
Another wedding first dance classic...
Easy by Lionel Richie/The Commodores. As the bride and groom gaze lovingly into each others eyes Lionel's first words are...
W I know it sounds funny but I just can't stand the pain, Girl
So I'm leaving you tomorrow."
And it goes on...
"You know I've done all I can
You see I begged, stole, and I borrowed!
That's why I'm easy
I'm easy like Sunday morning
That's why I'm easy
I'm easy like Sunday morning!
Why in the world would anybody put chains on me?
I've paid my dues to make it
Everybody wants me to be
What they want me to be
I'm not happy when I try to fake it!
I wanna be high, so high
I wanna be free to know
The things I do are right
I wanna be free
Just me!"
Happy Hour
by The Housemartins. In reality a sneery critique of boozed-up idiots. Became a floor filler in the late 80s for boozed-up idiots.
Bongo & Hedge's cheery wedding number
One.
"You've Lost That Loving Feeling" often seems to
be interpreted as a really romantic weddingy song, too, which seems remarkably...well, odd.
We've Got Tonight by Bob Seger
Held up as a great love song.
It's a bloke begging for a quick shag.
Back For Good - Take That
A tender, gentle song asking for forgiveness and pleading for the love of his life to return? Not really:
"In the twist of separation, you excelled at being free"
in other words - "you *whore!*"
"Whatever - I'm wrong - just tell me the song and I'll sing it
You'll be right and understood"
in other words - "I can't be bothered grappling with whatever it is you are upset about. Washing's piling up."
"I guess it's time you came back for good."
in other words - "I control you. You have no say in this. I hereby summon you back. And don't do it again".
Judging by this thread
We have to assume that every song is about shagging apart from the ones from murderous/creepy/controlling exes.
James **unt's You're Beautiful
Another stalky song, this time co-opted as one of the most requested tunes to be played at funerals. Odd.
Golden Brown.
Every dad's favourite tune back in the day.
*whispers*
It was about drugs! Honest!
Ebeneezer Goode?
Someone once told me this was about drugs. I don't get it myself.
My understanding was: Eezer
My understanding was:
Eezer Goode = E's are good
It's not Shakespeare but...
Double post
(sorry)
There She Goes
by the La's - isn't that also about the heroin? Or do I just really want it to be?
Another Republican theft
Sarah Palin appropriated Gretchen Peters's song Independence Day (as performed by Martina McBride) much to Gretchen's initial dismay.
This song has nothng to do with American freedom from British rule but is all about domestic abuse, being a young girl's view of her mother revenging herself on her abusive husband.
Gretchen said "The fact that the McCain/Palin campaign is using a song about an abused woman as a rallying cry for their Vice Presidential candidate, a woman who would ban abortion even in cases of rape and incest, is beyond irony,"
So Gretchen decided the best thing to do was to take the royalties she was earning via Palin and donate them to pro-choice organisation Planned Parenthood.
Songs Of Love (Father Ted theme) The Divine Comedy
A few years ago, a friend of mine had just made an acquaintance of Neil Hannon and persuaded him to play Songs Of Love at his wedding, dedicated to the bride. Before he started the song, Hannon remarked, "I'm not sure why you want this performed at your nuptials as it's really not a love ballad."
They were sadly separated a mere three years later. So it was quite apt after all.
In My Life by The Beatles
Lauren Laverne played this on 6Music a few months ago proclaiming it the best song about reminiscing about one's youth ever. Listen beyond the first few lines and it reveals something far more personal.
Very good spot.
I 've sung this song loads and hadn't noticed that - checking out verse 2 he's basically saying his new love is much more important than a load of dodgy nostalgia. Well done you and well done John you clever bugger.
Green green grass of home
Just heard Tom Jones doing an acoustic version of this on NPR, and realised for the first time that it is sung by a condemned man the day before his execution. Obviously I've not been listening for the past 40 years.
I played 'When You Say Nothing At All'
at a friend's wedding - and dedicated it to the 2 mother-in-laws, Fortunately, the guests got the joke.
Song For Whoever
By The Beautiful South sometimes crops up on 'Love' compilations.
Really? Isn't even the title a giveaway?
For our own wedding video, I suggested Mojave 3's 'You're beautiful' would be nice for a section of it. The bloke who edited it got the wrong track off the album...Where Is The Love?!!!*
*NOT the Black Eyed Peas one
Not a song,
but Jersusalem has gone from being a chartist call to arms to a public school anthem. Also, can someone please explain why England rugby crowds have adopted Swing Low Sweet chariot ?
Its a bit crass
Wikipedia says "Coming into the last match of the 1988 season, against Ireland at Twickenham, England had lost 15 of their previous 23 matches in the Five Nations Championship. The Twickenham crowd had only seen one solitary England try in the previous two years and at half time against Ireland they were 0-3 down. However during the second half England scored six tries to give them a 35-3 win. Three of the tries came in quick succession from Chris Oti, a black player making his Twickenham debut. A group from the Benedictine school Douai started to sing a rugby club favourite – the gospel hymn "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" – in honour of their new hero, large sections of the crowd joined in."
But as I recall it (I was there) they didn't have any songs for a black hero so they sang a slave spiritual. Pissed toffs.
My Humps by BlackEyed Peas
often mistakenly thought to be about a woman's curves and charms, is actually about Will I Am's time as a road layer pre-fame.
The Supernaturals - Smile
"Your life's a mess, you've been cut adrift"
Still, chin up and all that.