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Great films you NEVER want to see again
I know plenty of people for whom the idea of watching any film more than once seems odd. This post is not aimed at those people. For those of us who do like to watch films again, the basic reason why we'd do it is because we enjoyed it, one way or another, and would happily watch it again. If I think a film is genuinely great, I'll often buy the DVD and end up watching it a second, and indeed third or fourth time.
There are, however, a few films that I consider unequivocally great, but will never watch again. The best example of this is Lilya 4-Ever, by Lukas Moodysson. His previous film is one of my favourites ever, Together, a film full of heart and warmth. Lilya 4-Ever is full of righteous rage and compassion, but almost unwatchably harrowing. It tells the story of a teenaged girl in a former Soviet Bloc country, whose relatively comfortable life is turned upside down when her parents suddenly bugger off to America. After it becomes clear they're not going to send her a ticket to join them, she meets a guy who promises her love and a new life in Sweden. What he actually has in store for her is a brutal existence as a sex slave. It's a masterful film, brilliantly acted and directed; I was stunned and literally speechless after it ended. And I could never sit through it again.
Another example is Seven (or 7even, if you prefer). Dark as hell, intelligent, well played by Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman, Kevin Spacey and Gwyneth Paltrow. But, you know, *shudder*. There are scenes where I had to avert my eyes, and one in particular that could easily have given me nightmares. I wouldn't watch it again if you paid me.
Are there any films like that, that you admired greatly but wouldn't countenance watching again?
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Seven for me too
Arlington Road (Jeff Bridges, Tim Robbins and Badlamenti score)which turns from a jolly good mystery into something more chilling. I don't think I could bear watching it, knowing what's to come.
For similar reasons, The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas.
Yes
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas is a very good film, but oh so depressing.
Leaving Las Vegas
I was boo-hooing so much by the end of it, I physically couldn't get up from my seat. I can't even tell you whether the film was any good or not, I just remember crying and crying. And crying.
Never again.
This...
...is the right answer.
Also, 'Last Exit to Brooklyn'.
Great fillum - but please - no more.
Ditto
Requiem for a Dream (another Selby adaptation).
Edit: Already mentioned below … great minds, etc.
A great film, but
one of the great miscastings of our time. I thought Elizabeth Shue was just way too beautiful to be credible in that role.
breaking the waves
if you've seen it you know why.
I have
I agree
Hear hear
...and to that I could add pretty much anything by Von Trier.
Björk was phenomenal in Dancer In The Dark but there's no way I'm sitting through that again.
File them under "I'm really happy to have had my life enriched by seeing that, and I'm also really happy that I will never ever be watching it again."
That Von Trier fellow
As far as I'm concerned, Dancer In The Dark is a very thinly veiled re-write of Breaking The Waves. In a nutshell (SPOILER ALERT!), woman is put through what seems like several hours of unremitting torture, and then dies horribly and pointlessly. Something not dissimilar happens in an earlier film, Europa. The Idiots? The nicest woman has the crappiest outcome. Antichrist? 'nuff said. The man is 20% genius, 80% misogynist nutter. And agreed, there aren't any of his films I'd want to see again.
Do check out "The Kingdom" (Riget)
It was a mini series Von Trier did about a hospital with a distinctly supernatural problem. It was in parts chilling and hilarious, hugely inventive and the cast of veteran Danes were excellent.
Stephen King remade it for US TV, no idea how that worked out...
Riget
Not all the cast were veteran Danes, of course. At least one was a veteran Swede: the late, inimitable Ernst-Hugo Järegård:
Losing will to live
Rarely have I lacked the will to live more than after seeing this film in a London cinema. I did love the musical "Life on Mars" etc interludes however, nice touch.
I was so relieved after coming out I was holding a super 8 camera, which alerted the attention of a Big Issue salesman, who engaged me in uplifting conversation for 10 mins, god bless him. Saved. It was close.
Se7en
(a pedant types) - I've watched it many times, it's one of my favourites.
For me, Naked (dir, Mike Leigh) fits the bill. Loved it at the flicks, bought it on VHS, could never bring myself to watch it.
I love the end of Se7en...
... always makes me laugh my head off.
Citizen Kane
It defined film as an artform. It invented the visual language of modern cinema. It's a work of unparalleled and visionary genius. All true.
It's really boring. No matter how groundbreaking it was, it's been superseded so many times over, and is proof positive that doing it first doesn't mean you did it best.
*ducks*
An up from me, Bob
And that, my friend...
...is an up that means a lot! Thanks!
*goes back to watching Megashark Vs. Crocosaurus on Syfy.*
Words of truth
Words of truth
See also Seven Samurai
Kurosawa, visionary, drama, huge fight in the rain, yada, yada, yada. What are YOU going to watch on a wet bank holiday afternoon: this or The Magnificent Seven?
Seriously...
... I can't imagine finding CK boring - I watch it at least once a year, I'm invariably rapt from first frame to last, and always see something new in it... on the other hand, I found the Lord Of the Rings movies boring, so I'm clearly wired differently...
We're all wired differently.
I don't really like LOTR either!
I
like Citizen Kane AND Lord Of The Rings! Where does this leave me?
In the same camp as me.
Both complete works of art, in their own way. Wonderful, moving stuff.
You're
wired the same.
Couldn't agree more
As soon as I saw the thread it was what sprung to mind, pleased my feelings aren't total sacrilege, or at least we're going to film critic hell together.
In The Realm of The Senses
Sophie's World
The Orphanage
La Strada
The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas
Cache (Hidden)
Jules et Jim
A Short Film About Killing
Requiem For A Dream
Great Darren Aronofsky film with wonderful performance by Ellen Burstyn as an ampetamine and TV-Quiz addicted mother.
The shocking descent into hell of the mother, drug addict son (Hared Leto), his junkie grilfriend (Jennifer Connolly) and friend Tyrone is truly harrowing.
Very difficult to watch a second time.
Can you listen a second time?
Great soundtrack by Clint Mansell - (The Fountain, Moon, Black Swan, Pop Will Eat Itself etc)
Irreversible
Brilliantly made by Gaspar Noe (who followed it up with the stunning "Enter The Void"), I'll be quite happy if I never see the rape scene or the nightclub scene ever again - the latter, with the way it is shot and soundtracked, is as close as I could imagine a descent into hell could be, and that's even before somebody gets their head mashed in with a fire extinguisher.
With you there
Irreversible is a fascinating piece of cinema but deeply grim (see 'Baise Moi' too). Never again.
And I'm always slightly shocked to see these DVDs in HMV 50% off Summer sales on the shelves next to Ace Ventura: Pet Detective two-fers, Pirates Of The Caribbean boxsets and The Best Of Jethro...Etc
This is shaping up
To be quite a night in front of the telly box.
A few shockers
Wolfcreek: I wouldn't describe it as great or a classic. But basically I never want to see it again.
Ditto a British flick of the few years ago called Eden Lake. Gratuitous torture and a rather pointless story with Michael Fassbender.
I could add some of Michael Hanecke's films but despite their perversity and cruel subject matter, they are so well crafted that I do watch them now and again. The original Funny Games is a real shocker.
I've only watched Midnight Express a couple of times, the last time was about 20 years go. Just found it harrowing.
Couple of horrors
were Wolfcreek and the Japanese shocker 'Audition'. Both brilliant in their own way, but too disturbing. Still shudder just briefly thinking of them.
Good call on both films
Wolf Creek was so good at its job, i.e. turning the viewer into a terrified wreck, that I can never see it again. As for Audition, genuinely odd and genuinely unpleasant in a way that Hostel and its ilk can only dream of. Brrrrrr!
The City of Life and Death
Aka Nanjing Nanjing. A brilliant, albeit extremely graphic depiction of The Rape of Nanking in 1937 - which, to put into some perspective, even the Nazis thought went *a bit far*.
There's a review of the film by Andrew Harrison, in a Word passim, which is thoroughly worth revisiting. As for me, I saw it in a crowded preview theatre surrounded by critics all doing exactly the same thing: staring at the carpet and quietly going "oh fuck, oh fuck, oh fuck."
The whole thing's been uploaded here (and here's part 1), if you've time tonight, and you fancy an alternative sort of Saturday night. Like the Russian war film 'Come and See', about the Nazi occupation of the Byelorussian SSR, it's utterly unforgettable.
But you'll probably never want to watch it ever again.
Never
again will I watch that. For anyone unfamiliar with what went on this will provide some rather harrowing reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
Have you just watched it for the first time, McLong?
I'd say, 'Glad to be of service', but I'm sort of not. I just remember being incredibly upset and depressed for days after watching it. But I hope you'll agree with me that it nevertheless remains superlative filmmaking.
I didn't know this film...
...before you mentioned it, so I googled it and read about the massacre on Wikipedia.
Suffice it to say that after reading, I had to think very hard about something less upsetting before I could get to sleep. Jesus, the things human beings are capable of...
Ditto
I didn't know about this before. Words cannot describe. Depressing and disturbing beyond belief.
Iris Chang
Wrote what is generally accepted as the definitive account of the Nanking Massacre. She suffered from depression and committed suicide in 2004. Her researches into the Nanking events contributed to her condition and are part of the reason for her death.
I watched it
quite recently. It'll be the first and last time. It's a staggering piece of cinema.
Agreed
City of life and death was one of the films that sprang to mind when I saw this thread. I also thought of Come and see, which is without doubt the grimmest film I've ever seen. It's a brilliant piece of filmaking but it's just so unrelentingly bleak and barbarous I'd struggle to watch it again.
Another Lars Von Trier laugh-fest..
"Dancer In The Dark" with an absolutely gob-smacking performance by Bjork.
Brilliant, but you'd have to tie me to a team of huskies dragging me into the cinema to see it again.
see also / don't see also: Dogville
If I do watch it again it'll be purely to experience that bizarre feeling of one minute looking at the lack of scenery thinking "what is this nonsense? Why aren't there houses?" and the next minute being totally drawn in and forgetting all about it.
I have not yet plucked up the courage to watch either Manderlay (Dogville's sequel) or Dancer in the Dark yet.
Nil by Mouth.
Brilliant film. Never again.
I'm with you there,
Mr Lumberjack, sir. Incredible performances by Ray Winstone and Kathy Burke. But once is enough.
The Cook, The Thief,
yeah and the other two.
An absolute masterpiece, but bordering on unbearable.
The C, the T, his W and her L
When the film came out, I went to see it twice in one week!
I have seen this twice
but only so my GLW could see it once. She never wants to see it again.
The Exorcist
Even after all this time.
Nasty, nasty, nasty.
Dead good,
...dead scary, dead priest.
If you enjoy
the sight of a 12 year-old girl masturbating with a crucifix, then that's your perogative. But count me out.
More "stabbing her vagina"
than "masturbating", I would say. Brilliant film, either way.
Salo
Pasolini's version of the Marquis de Sade set in fascist Italy; a very serious film about politics and abuse, but excruciatingly unpleasant to watch.
The Japanese director Kenji Mizoguchi's historical dramas are beautifully made, but the plots can be so harrowing that I can't gear myself up to watch them again; especially Sansho the Bailiff and The Life of Oharu.
Three More
Straw Dogs - just thought the rape etc. was gratuitous
Soldier Blue - similarly - I know it is a story that was repeated thousands of times in Norh America, but hard to watch.
Old Boy - interesting premise, but grim revenge movie.
I've never been able to bring myself to watch 'Schindler's List' - too close to home, I'm afraid.
Mystic River
Classic film with some outstanding direction and acting, but not on my list of must see again.
Mystic River..
I found the moral core at the end of that film highly questionable.
Amen
I really hated the ending of Mystic River. Then again, I didn't think much of the whole film. Sean Penn was acting Very Loudly, and the whole thing was portentous and turgid, like a lot of Clint's films lately. Million Dollar baby is another example: Hilary Swank is terrific in the first half; then That Thing happens and the film becomes a real trial to watch. I've learned that Paul Haggis's name on a script and/or as a director is a sign that I can safely decline. Crash was ghastly - and doesn't fit into my original category, as not only would I not watch it again, I didn't make it to the end the first time!
Gosh
I really loved Crash. One of the few films worthy of its Oscar win I thought.
Hang on
It's just occured to me - there were two weren't there? I loved the one with Matt Dillon. Haven't seen the other.
The other is a mid-90s film;
Adaptation of a J. G. Ballard novel directed by David Cronenberg. And if that sentence didn't tell you if you want to grab the DVD, it's a film about people that get their sexual kicks from car accidents.
Interesting rather than great, and I can live without seeing it again.
I know which one I prefer
To answer your question above, Sting, it's the Paul Haggis directed one with Matt Dillon and a cast of thousands that I thought was absolutely awful, probably the worst Best Film Oscar winner I've ever seen. Apart from Chicago, obviously.
I thought the David Cronenberg film was creepy, fascinating and overall a far more worthwhile film.
Ah yes, well, you see...
I quite liked Chicago. (Wouldn't watch it again, mind.) Worst Oscar winner? For me it's gotta be Forrest Gump, if only cos it was same year as Pulp Fiction. I was so outraged I nearly wrote a letter.
Driving Miss Daisy
is surely the worst film to have won an Oscar?
I liked Cronenberg's Crash, although I consider the man to be a genius and am biased. It's somewhat contrived, but still interesting. (I have no desire to watch Haggis's Crash again.)
Not that bad really
Driving Miss Daisy has plenty of faults, but it also has two good performances by two great actors, and is pretty well realised within its perhaps rose-tinted parameters.
I'd rather watch haggises crash than Haggis's Crash again.
Forest Gump
is surely far worse than Driving Miss Daisy?
So pleased
I've never seen any of those as I suspected they were rubbish. Without seeing it I always believed Titanic was the worst of the lot, although maybe - like Mr Ono - its my prejudice revealing itself as Titanic won the year L.A. Confidential was nominated.
Come And See
Very few have seen this Russian tale of the German invasion, but anybody who has will never forget it. The protagonist goes through such hell that the young actor's face seems to age before your eyes, with no make-up or FX required. Absolutely numbing, and not the film for a romantic Saturday night...
Yes, it left me speechless
...the scene at the village was very difficult to watch...
Reservoir Dogs
I couldn't watch that torture scene again. Shudder.
Other movies on my list of great but once was enough:
1. Cool Hand Luke
2. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Two great characters with such tremendous spirit, created by two incredible actors, and I just find it hard to rewatch both movies knowing how hopeless and heart breaking the outcome is in both movies
Reservoir Dogs - saw it in
Reservoir Dogs - saw it in the cinema - brilliant - never want to watch that again.
Thought boy in the striped jarmies was well done - very sad though.
Reservoir Dogs
Is regularly recycled at Casa theRef. Not because it's a classic, but I just enjoy the hell out of it.
The other two? I wouldn't go and look them out - but I'll watch them if they're on.
Cannibal Holocaust (uncut version)
Once again, a compelling groundbreaking exercise in horror cinema verite that predates "found footage" twenty years before The Blair Witch Project and all its inferior by-products since. However, it's not the bleak nihilistic message or even the gruesome ultra violence that truly offends but the relentless, real cruelty and pointless slaughter of animals in this movie.
Once was enough. Great soundtrack though.
Oliver Stone's "Salvador"
Amazing movie, bought it (on VHS!) the week it came out, it never even made it out of the shrinkwrap before it went to the charity shop in the great VHS purge of 2008...
The Road
A great book, a good film, but it is so bleak, so grim that I'm not sure I can go on that journey again.
Same for The Mist (Stephen King), particularly the ending.
The Road
Oh boy. I'd greatly admired the book, and never got around to watching the film on the big screen. Just as well, as when I watched it on DVD, it really tore me apart. Towards the end there's a scene that is so tragic and poignant that I was actually sobbing. That said, I wouldn't rule out watching it again some day, as it's a superb film, and not without some small hope at the end.
You and me both
I was in absolute bits at the end.
Mrs W, whose tolerance for slow-paced fillums is low at the best of times, had dropped off to sleep halfway through. She awoke to find me blubbing like a small child.
On a slightly different tack...
...my mother bought our three year old the Bambi DVD last Christmas. I haven't even been able to bring myself to take the cellophane wrapper off.
Three or four days after watching
Happiness by Todd Solondz, I realised it was still very much at the front of my mind and I had in fact enjoyed it despite its downbeat feel and "challenging" themes.
I've loaned it to various people since with the proviso not to watch it with their maiden aunts ... and to a man (or to a person if you will) they're of a similar opinion to me.
Bottom line is, I think I loved it but I guess it won't see my player again .... not for a long time anyway.
Really ?
I must have seen it at least eight times, it's one of my favourite films ever and I own the DVD.
Yes it's bleak and the subject matters are grim but it's also very (darkly) humourous and there is a warm humanity underneath the ice cold exterior that makes you truly like and care for all of these deeply flawed and/or disturbed persons.
The first time watching it (without prior knowledge of the content) was a bit of a shock, but watching it again you can get past the shock element and enjoy it in a different, deeper way.
Or maybe I'm just not very sensitive...
Objectionably cold
I don't think I could actually finish the film, sometimes I hate Timeout magazine, whose review made me watch it. I should almost reverse their reviews - if they like it, top myself now, save watching it - if they hate it, must be enjoyable.
Having children puts a whole raft of films out of bounds
So I'm not watching until the kids are safely turned 18 as anything involving the death of children is just too upsetting:
Don't Look Now
Boy In the Striped Pyjamas (not going to see this at all...)
The Ice Storm
etc etc
If that's how you feel
probably best not to watch The Orphanage (mentioned above) even once.
The Vanishing
George Sluizer's film from 1988. Brilliant, unsettling, there are scenes in that I can still see even though I haven't seen it since 1988. You will never trust a man with a chinstrap beard ever again.
And another reason to hate motorway services.
Brilliant movie
The ending left me shattered. Supremely disturbing.
Same for me
I saw it on the telly in the mid-1990s, thought it a superb film, but it's too disturbing to ever want to see it again.
and to hate
Hollywood remakes.
Worst. Remake. Ever.
Ok, it probably isn't the very worst remake, but it sticks in my mind because (a) it features a collector's item, a terrible performance by Jeff Bridges; (b) his character is portrayed as an obviously psychopathic nutter rather than the normal seeming family man of the original (who even rescues someone from drowning!); (c) it TOTALLY cops out on the ending, one of the bleakest, most devastating and most brilliant I've ever seen. The most extraordinary thing of all is that this travesty was directed by the very same George Sluizer who'd done such a masterful job with the original.
As to the original film, it is a great example of the type I had in mind; that said, as with The Road, I can see myself watching it again.
I am not alone
Three films have appeared already that I have no real hankering to see again in a hurry:
Funny Games - Very chilling, a very real nightmare situation.
Happiness - Loved it and I can't put my finger on why I don't want to watch it again. I just don't
Nil By Mouth - Again, loved it but after living near such an estate and meeting similar people and hearing and seeing their daily lives being played out I have no desire to watch such dramas to pass the time.
The other one is Human traffic. Not a great film but really does capture the essence of an drug fuelled clubbing night out that I used to do every weekend and now I feel a bit sad that those days are behind me so I won't watch it for that reason.
Changeling - 2008
Wasn't sure what to expect when I watched this but grimness began pretty soon into the film as Angelina loses her only child. From there on my back was stuff with tension, especially so as I had read it was based on a true story. Imagine being told your missing child has been found and then the police presenting you with a different child who together with psychiatrists collude to make you look like the insane one, to save the police the embarassment of another lost child case.Well acted, well directed, well written, great looking but would I put myself through it again?
Imagine if..
..the jovial Lars Von Trier had gotten hold of it?
Schindlers List
At the time this came out there was a sense of duty that you had to see it. So I went but would I want to see it again?
My lady wife told me she and a friend went to see it when it came out and they were 5 mins into Ace Ventura before she managed to convince her friend this must be the wrong film.
Clockwork Orange.....
.....great direction, hugely memorable scenes and predicted the world we now soooo enjoy in almost microscopic detail.....but, and probably because of that last reason, I never have to see it again.
Trainspotting
I have developed in recent years an absolute horror of anything relating to Heroin use and the baby's death in the beginning is just too much.
Brilliant film though.
Terence Davies Trilogy
Very fond of the old boy generally but his Trilogy depicting the almost completely joyless life of a gay boy/young man/old man (not that the main character seems to get much), while admirable, is SO unremittingly miserable across not one but three shortish films that the very thought of seeing it again fills me with utter dread.
Snowtown
I probably don't want to see it again, but, by God, it's good. Superb score, too. There's one scene in particular involving a man being tortured to death in a bath that really hits the spot. Highly recommended movie.
Yeah a lot of votes for miseryfests and the traumatic
but for me the films which I have no need to see again are those which hinge entirely on a plot twist or some other irritating oh-so-clever device (even those films which I do regard as great and where the twist is almost the best part of the film). Once the cat is out of the bag, in a sense, you cannot watch the same film again as your experience will be distorted by foreknowledge. So, I say, why bovver?
Too true
Jagged Edge was a quite good Eighties thriller but the only time I'd ever bother to watch it again is to smug nudge the person who hasn't seen it before in the ribs as the end credits roll, whispering, " Betcha didn't see THAT coming!"
Twice, for me.
But only if I never saw the twist coming.
For example - The Sixth Sense and The Others (Ok, ok, give me a break - I'm slow on the uptake, ok?). Once I knew what the twist was, I wanted to re-watch both films to see what clues I missed and to confirm the internal logic of the film supported the twist (ie that there was no cheating).
No need for a third viewing after that, though.
The Sixth Sense
I thought I was sthe only one! I haven't watched it since I saw it in the cinema on realease, but as I recall it finished with a handy recap of all the scenes where you should have realised the 'big twist' coming, and more attentive viewers probably did.
The Usual Suspects
I'd happily watch again and again, despite knowing the "twist".
Yep
same goes for Fight Club and also ***POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT*** The Prestige. A lot of people were unimpressed with it but I love the way they the film is crafted in exactly the same way as a magic trick. And Bowie's in it as Tesla.
"Elizabeth" with Kate Blanchett
Mainly because it was rubbish...
Them's fighting words
Cate B was wonderful.
The sequel, I grant you, was as ropey as hell. "The Golden Age" felt a bit of a rehash. Now, I'll admit I'm an idiot for most things Tudor, but I think even by an objective standard it was a good film
"Great", per the OP, may be a bit of a stretch though.
Just remembered
'Hunger' - a film about Belmarsh prison in the eighties. Probably the most visually and conceptually harrowing film I've seen.
It is devoid of speech for what seems like hours, the only human noises being the sound of beatings and shouting. About half way through there is the most brilliant scene of a meeting between Bobby Sands and a priest, filmed in one take, static camera. It's about 20 minutes long, they chain smoke a dozen cigarettes and the dialogue is just ... sod it, just go and see it (once).
Slightly inaccurate
the last thing Hunger is about is Belmarsh prison in the 80s. It's about Bobby Sands and the IRA hunger strikes for recognition as political prisoners.
It is stunning, but I have no plans to see it again.
I apologise
I think I meant 'set in', which may be wrong as well, which goes to show you're right in that the films setting is of the smallest importance.
However, I think your own slight inaccuracy is that the last thing it's about is probably a lost fish searching to get back to its mum and dad. Or a woman who meets a man she doesn't like and then they fancy each other.
Remarkably
those were both in the early drafts. Amazing what a good script editor can do...
Eraserhead...
Surely must rank as a movie you only need once in a lifetime
One of my favourites
I've seen it a number of times and I would consider buying it again as the DVD copy I have is not a good transfer. The Brood by Cronenberg is another baby themed horror film that is difficult to stomach but I watched it after my 2nd was born and found it very cathartic.
Snowtown
Brilliant but utterly harrowing.
Gone with the Wind
Watched it about 20 years ago when it was on one Easter Monday afternoon and I was vaguely working on my dissertation. I thought it was fabulous. Girlfriend bought me a video of it which has never been watched. Just think I can never again be in the same set of circumstances to make me watch it.