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Grateful for some Dead

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Read a glowing review of a new 9-disc box set of Grateful Dead Live At Winterland '73 in Uncut magazine this week.

Don't worry team - I was merely browsing through it in WH Smiths and of course did not purchase. A court-martial offence.

It struck me that listening to the Dead was something I might possibly enjoy. Extended country blues jamming and then some. What's not to like?

Well, extended country blues jamming for one if that kind of thing is not to your taste.

Anyway I appear to have reached a point where I feel it's time to indulge. Where would be a good place for a rookie to start?

How would I pop my Jerry? Let me know any recommendations you might have and I'd be dead grateful! (Slaps thigh. Does jazz hands. Remains single...)

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nicktf | 23 April 2009 - 9:32pm

You did, yes

And this would have sat well there.

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Beezer | 23 April 2009 - 9:39pm

But for what it's worth, the only Dead...

...I had was Workingman's dead. I liked Dire Wolf and found the rest of it totally unmemorable. I was hoping for early Floydian psychadelic jams, and got Country and Western. To be honest, it was something of a surprise and disappointment.

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nicktf | 24 April 2009 - 5:39am

I would rather employ Dr

I would rather employ Dr Mengele to become the school doctor than listen to the appalling shite that is The Grateful Dead. A nine disc boxed set of one gig ?!
Andy, don't go there despite what all the hippy types are invariably going to post after this - all trying to outdo each other with their "i'm more obscurer than thou" offerings.
Garcia. Stoned, gibbering, and hilariously Dead twat.

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biggaboy | 23 April 2009 - 9:33pm

Excellently put!

But I do feel strangely drawn. Help me ObiWan...

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Beezer | 23 April 2009 - 9:42pm

A word in your shell-like, Bigga, old chap

Those of us who've been here a while have pretty well managed to agree or disagree without harshing other fellows' mellows. Which is why I wouldn't dream of saying tone it the fuck down or fuck the fuck off.

If you're staying, I recommend the beef wellington. Now, time for my nap.

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Stan Halen | 24 April 2009 - 3:23am

Don't say I didn't warn you

Don't say I didn't warn you mate.
I you hope through unscathed.

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biggaboy | 23 April 2009 - 9:48pm

Imagine a bad Canned Heat

If there is a more feeble "rock monster drivetime classic" than On the Road I don't know it - but if it exists it will exist in the ranks of The Ghastly Dead. I won't even do the joke about one of the reasons the dead are grateful is that they don't have to listen to that utter awfulness.

9 discs? 9??

Don't do it - step away from the Dead

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Sheev | 23 April 2009 - 10:21pm

"I you hope through

"I you hope through unscathed."

Kimono my house, mon amour

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man.of.soup | 27 April 2009 - 8:57pm

ignoring the above

May I point you in the direction of The Deadpod which is a weekly podcast of either the 1st or 2nd set of a Dead concert. A wonderful and inexpensive way to experience the Dead. As I type I realise I am wearing a tie dye t-shirt.

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Cornwall Guy | 23 April 2009 - 10:11pm

Well, in Stimp's apparent absence

(and he wil have some stern words about the ungracious comments raised thus far, ho yus!) it's actually quite easy. I really do understand the problem. Dive off the deep end into prolonged live work outs and you will sink, silently screaming. My suggestion is to do as I did. Ease yourself gently in with a selection of covers, Deadicated. Suzanne Vega, Los Lobos, Dwight Yoakam, Elvis Costello and the Indigo Girls parade an excellent selection of songs, amongst other august company. Then slide into American Beauty and seamlessly absorb Workingmans Dead. Thereafter it's easy, as you wil by then be attuned to the long strange trip and, via a live version or 2 of Dark star, you will be ready for anything. Good luck.

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Retropath2 | 23 April 2009 - 10:33pm

Can you sort me out with

Can you sort me out with some microdots. Or peyote.
Boy, you'd have to be higher than Buzz Aldrin to listen to those Deadbeats.

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biggaboy | 23 April 2009 - 10:41pm

De rigeur

I thought that was the general condition of the Dead's audience.

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Carl Parker | 23 April 2009 - 10:46pm

Nah, just open minded

and open ears. Easy, really. You should try it.

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Retropath2 | 23 April 2009 - 10:55pm

god damn

the pusher man. I bet you were the kid selling ciggies to the first form behind the bike sheds weren't you?

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badartdog | 24 April 2009 - 7:25am

Approach with extreme caution...

I went to see the Grateful Dead in Detroit in 1988. A friend of mine really liked them and got me a ticket. Having not heard their music before, I was somewhat surprised when all these unremarkable middle-aged geezers shuffled onto the stage and started fumbling around on their instruments. At first I thought they were just fooling around and that they'd play some proper songs soon. However, at the 2 hour mark I think it dawned on me that the unfocused, amateurish mess that I was hearing was all I would be getting that night. At the 3.5 hour mark I decided that I really didn't like this group very much and that I wanted to go home.

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Patrick Crowther | 24 April 2009 - 8:24am

You don't fancy coming with me to follow the Dead

around the US later this year then? :-)

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stimpy | 24 April 2009 - 5:26pm

Blimey

Thanks to everyone for the top tips and frank views.

It's fair to say my curiosity has been mightily tweaked by this.

To Spotify, I think, for further enlightment over the weekend.

Carry on as before, good people.

Much obliged

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Beezer | 24 April 2009 - 10:09am

There was a

brilliant comic picture in the Financial Times a few weeks ago. It showed an office where a young executive type was interviewing a fat 60 year old balding man in a suit.

"And I see in your resume that you spent 72 to 98 touring with the Grateful Dead".*

* Dates might not be accurate.

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LOUDspeaker | 24 April 2009 - 3:47pm

You have what's important - a genuine interest in it.

Your curiosity has been piqued and because of that I bet, unless the music is super awful, that you will like it.

It's crap buying and listening to something that you have no real interest in. And inevitably you usually don't care much for it when you finally listen to it. Not unless it really takes you by surprise by being a lot better than expected.

I find jazz to be boring. I approach Kind Of Blue, Time Out etc with no real interest. People say they're good and I'm willing to give them a listen, but in truth I'm just don't care one way or the other. Electric Bath by The Don Ellis Orchestra on the other hand was different. I had read an interesting description that did pique my interest. And when I finally did put the CD into my player I enjoyed it. That spark of original interest or curiosity is so important to liking music. I recognised this a long time ago, and yet I still buy stuff that makes me shrug my shoulders with complete indifference. Such as Sign O' The Times by Prince which I bought for £3 yesterday. I am almost guaranteed to think it's so-so because I have no real authentic interest in it in the first place.

So buy The Grateful Dead. I'm sure you'll enjoy it, or at least get something out of it, because you have a curiosity about it. Which is the best way to approach new music. In fact, it should be the only way.

If you approach Iron Maiden, Tool, Nine Inch Nails, Girls Aloud, Chris Rea, Richard Thompson, Supertramp, ELO, Elvis etc with some mild curiosity then you're bound to either like them, or learn to like them by keeping at it until it yields positive results. If you approach them with true indifference then you probably won't like them.

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LOUDspeaker | 24 April 2009 - 11:52am

I hope so

Valid point.

I suppose I'm interested because I've been aware of them for so long but for one reason or another just haven't actually heard them. And from what I've heard about them I should find something amongst all the hairy, spaced-out noodling. I want to find out what a psychedelic country jam really does sound like.

Despite this strong curiosity I may very well decide it's aural arse gravy after all. I can be very obtuse in that way and sometimes reject something wholesale. I know what I like and I like what I know, sort of thing. Paradoxically, like everyone else, I also crave new things, sounds and interests all the time. Gotta keep that candle lit. Keep that mind open and find more and more things to enjoy.

I'd much rather like it than not. Who craves disappointment? What would be the point?

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Beezer | 24 April 2009 - 3:10pm

I hope you'll persist ...

... and that some other reader can remember which Dead track Mark Ellen was talking about on a podcast a few months ago-as something he played on his commute whenever he needed a little hit of joy ...

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SpaceBoy | 24 April 2009 - 3:25pm

Experience, our only teacher

there must be some good in them I reasoned - many (I say many - a few - I say a few - one) whose opinion I value loves them with a force overwhelming and all consuming.

And I was intrigued like you by their status and fixity in the firmament.

So I gave it a go like. A good go, mind. And just as Patrick C. describes above - nothing ever happens. Nothing happens at all. On which note you'd definitely be better off listening to Del Amitri.

But some things you can only find out for yourself. So, be brave, be ready for the long haul - but after one, two, three attempts - still no echoing vibration in the tuning fork of your soul, psyche or elsewhere - give up. There's no point being a damn fool about it.

And WC Fields is a fine a life coach as there is.

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Sheev | 24 April 2009 - 3:41pm

A few years ago ...

... I found myself thinking the same thing as you Andy. I felt I must give this band a go. They seemed important, iconic even and yet I knew nothing about them. So I read some reviews and dipped my toe in with 'American Beauty' and 'Live Dead'. I was expecting something heavy, vital and profound. In my mind I was thinking of a more cosmic version of 'Parachute' by The Pretty Things. But what immediately struck me was how unremarkable the whole thing sounded. I don't think underwhelmed even approaches it. 'American Beauty' has some decent tunes, but it all seems so lightweight and well, er, weedy. It comes and it goes and not much happens in between. And as for the psychedelic moniker, I just don't see it myself. Okay, so they were dropping acid with Kesey et al, but it never strikes me as great stoner music. Today, I never play The Grateful Dead. I still play 'Parachute'.

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Martin | 24 April 2009 - 3:57pm

Right... I'm here now...

Firstly, to quote Alice Cooper "I love the Dead" so I'm speaking from a position of bias.

But, trying to remain objective, I'd always suggest American Beauty and Workingman's Dead as a good place to start.

If that appeals then, remembering that the Dead were always primarily a live band, take a listen to Europe 72.

You've now explored both ends of the Dead - the plangent acoustic stuff and a typical (-ish) live set.

If you've liked what you've heard thus far, there's good and bad news.

The bad news is they didn't do anything else like Americal Beauty/Workingman's dead.

The good news is there are dozens of officially released live albums and thousands of free bootlegs to start exploring.

Here's a little something to whet the appetite


Workingmans: http://open.spotify.com/album/1EfxjgYkZEUUjwy0ydyvhB
American: http://open.spotify.com/album/1oSeXy2F7GmSHQdRJ2AaVO
Europe 72: http://open.spotify.com/album/65ktF7lkujUnpca7cLRj6s

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stimpy | 24 April 2009 - 4:29pm

I reckon this shows their pros and cons v well


If this doesn't sound like music to you I suspect you won't like the Dead ... could be wrong ... but as stated above, hear the Indigo Girls' cover on Deadicated as well.

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SpaceBoy | 24 April 2009 - 4:37pm

Cannot wait

Must get a listen to these guys as soon as possible.

Once again this blog has proven itself a lodestone of well expressed opinion and debate.

Which is remarkable seeing as I don't really know what a lodestone is.

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Beezer | 24 April 2009 - 4:29pm

and, in parallel,

try East-west by the Paul Butterfield Blue Band, and see if you can tell which came first (not sure meself).

I think a lodestone is different from a rhinestone, your mileage may vary ...

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SpaceBoy | 24 April 2009 - 4:42pm

Oh, and as per a comment The Hep's recent

bootleg show.

I bought the 9CD version of 'The Closing Of Winterland', in spite of having it all on bootlegs AND owning the earlier official 3 CD version

*sigh*

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stimpy | 24 April 2009 - 4:37pm
LOUDspeaker | 24 April 2009 - 4:51pm

Sucker.

Sorry, it slipped out.

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LOUDspeaker | 24 April 2009 - 4:52pm

At least the Dead sell everything as FLAC downloads

so there's no tedious hard copy involved.

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stimpy | 24 April 2009 - 5:26pm

TEDIOUS HARD COPY???????

As the owner of 'Golden Road', 'Beyond Description' and far too many picks by er, Dick, I have to say that the artifacts are often glorious things to behold. And the recent 'Rocking The Cradle' disc has a neat pop-up sphinx!

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Vulpes Vulpes | 24 April 2009 - 7:37pm

I too have all 36 Dick's Picks

but I preferred the sleeve design of the first few - when they had the 'Ampex tape box' appearance.

I'll admit to playing with the Rocking The Cradle packaging when I had the chance but, ultimately, it's just a fancy box :-)

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stimpy | 24 April 2009 - 9:55pm

Festival Express

I was impressed by their performance on the Festival Express film. If I was round at a friend's house and he/she said "let's listen to some Dead", I wouldn't be getting my coat. But then I wouldn't be offering high fives either. I think that's called indifference.

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Martin | 24 April 2009 - 9:14pm

A classic: "American Beauty"

and a great place for a newcomer to the Dead. "Workingman's Dead" is a goodie and you could move onto "Live/Dead" later. These are 3 obvious but good places to begin and they're all on Spotify. There was an excellent, "Very Best Of..." a few years ago that focused on the more accessible tunes, too. Happy listening.

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Mark JF | 24 April 2009 - 8:37pm

I'd always recommend Europe 72

over Live/Dead.

In fact, come to think of it, I haven't listened to Live/Dead for years. You've just inspired me :-)

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stimpy | 24 April 2009 - 9:56pm

More thanks

Great advice from Stimpy and a very kind offer received from Vulpes.

If you're interested I've enjoyed 'Truckin' and 'Workingmans Dead' was a palatable experience.

It's all good news thus far in.

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Beezer | 24 April 2009 - 10:59pm

The Dead 2009 tour

Only 14 days until my first The Dead gig :-)

Been downloading the first batch of live recordings from the current tour - sounding good; of course it's not the same without Jerry but The Dead are shaping up to be a fine band in their own right.

They're releasing direct soundboard downloads of each show within a few hours of the end of the show - that's 29 new shows for me to luxuriate in over the next few weeks (complete with bulk purchase discount!)

The sun is shining, the birds are singing and 'Promised Land' from Wednesday's Buffalo gig is playing - how much better can a Spring day get

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stimpy | 25 April 2009 - 12:38pm

Whilst I fully respect your love of The Grateful Dead, Stimpy...

personally I would rather have my knackers caught in a mangle than spend a lovely day like this listening to Grandadshambles (as I have now re-christened The Grateful Dead / The Dead) ;)

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Patrick Crowther | 25 April 2009 - 1:14pm

One man's shambles ...

Two other artefacts that may be worth your time, Andy.

1. The film "Grateful Dawg" about Garcia's late-life re-collaboration with Dave Grisman, mandolin player on "American Beauty". I don't think this Warfield soundcheck is from DVD but it gives a flavour

nicely nostalgic for me as I saw one of their Warfield shows.

Useful user summaries at Amazon UK for this but DVD is cheaper elsewhere.

2. Dennis McNally's book "A Long Strange Trip: The Inside History of the Grateful Dead"

http://www.musicbox-online.com/dm-long.html

which sets their scene rather well

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SpaceBoy | 25 April 2009 - 1:51pm

The Butterfield Shack After Brothers Band

I followed a suggestion of Nick W's and sampled a little Butterfield. Very Good I thought. So I mooched further in the boondocks of Caucasian bluesy noodlers.

So - whilst waving my "by no means exhaustive research" disclaimer. My findings are as follows. Life has rather more to offer than Savoy Brown or Chicken Shack. And Ten Years After are the British Dead.

No question of being Anglo-averse as the workovers of old blues numbers by Fleetwood Mac Mk 1 or Cream and not to mention Free, Faces, Stones or Zep can - and often do - thrill.

Turning to GD's fellow Americans - why is it that Johnny Winters and the Allman Bros (the latter in particular) - who mine a similar seam - knock the aforementioned Dead into a hat marked cock?

And whilst putting Butterfield on my scone, I even discovered a Janis Jop track I liked (included below). Normally, her a-wailins and a-hollerins get me a-runnin'

Nothing, if not fair minded, after these investigations I went back to the Dead

And this time - this time

Nothing

http://open.spotify.com/user/sheevmaster/playlist/5WLyKaOfqc3oal2Yfe9Imf

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Sheev | 25 April 2009 - 5:16pm

Caucasian bluesy noodlers-four more from them

glad you liked PBBB-a work colleague tells me first album's even better.

Was also interesting piece on Mike Bloomfield in archives of Gadfly magazine but can't access it right now. Did find that Butterfield was in Last Waltz-do need to see that again after maybe 20 years ...

http://www.gadflyonline.com/05-06-02/film-lastwaltz.html

"The Band was steeped in the blues and when Muddy Waters does "Mannish Boy," it’s almost chilling. With Paul Butterfield blowing one endless note, The Band along with Water’s guitarist at the time, Bob Margolin, cranks up one nasty groove as Waters, almost regal, works himself into a near-frenzy. The two blues songs that follow, "Further On Up The Road," with Eric Clapton, and "Mystery Train" with Paul Butterfield don’t come close."

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SpaceBoy | 25 April 2009 - 7:17pm

...and here it is


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stimpy | 25 April 2009 - 8:04pm

Can Blue Men sing the Whites ?

Thanks, hadn't guessed that would be on Youtube, don't know why.

Not quite sure why reviewer at Gadfly was so negative about this one:


but tend to agree this one didn't quite take off


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SpaceBoy | 27 April 2009 - 8:53am

Al Kooper on the late Mike Bloomfield

http://www.gadflyonline.com/archive/marchapril01/archive-bloomfield.html

"He was years ahead of everyone. His melodic sense and feel were incomparable. I saw him outfox Hendrix one night in an after-hours duel. At this show I was listening to, from 1968, he invited Johnny Winter onstage to make his New York City debut. Johnny had no record deal, and no one in the audience had ever heard of him before so it was truly a big chance for him. He got up and played amazingly. People were mesmerized as he put on a spectacular display of blues guitar playing. Bloomfield generously stepped aside and played rhythm guitar quietly behind him. After Johnny had played for about six minutes, to a standing ovation, he nodded for Bloomfield to solo. Michael remained in the back and played, in two choruses, what it had taken Winter six minutes to do. The audience freaked. It was not a cutting contest, either. They both had tremendous respect for each other. And believe me, Johnny Winter's six minutes were truly exceptional, but it's just the way it was that night."

Obviously a friend on a dead friend, but indicative perhaps ?

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SpaceBoy | 27 April 2009 - 6:17pm

Being a bit of a Dead fancier too

have to agree with Retropath & Stimpy's recommendations, while not disagreeing with many of you suggesting the band are often vague and rambling, and yes, the songwriting is frequently indifferent, so not much pop sensibility there.

I would like to add a personal favourite album though, which I think even you, Sheevmaster, would enjoy as it's well constructed, taut, and melodious (in a way that wouldn't disgrace Dan and Joni lovers): Blues for Allah from 1975. Check it out Andy.

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Declan | 25 April 2009 - 7:32pm

Blues for Allah

is already winging its way to him.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 26 April 2009 - 12:17pm

Didn't Backwards7 have Blues For Allah

as the opening track on his 1CD Prog Best Of playlist?

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LOUDspeaker | 26 April 2009 - 12:30pm

ok - once more only

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close up the wall with The Grateful Dead.

Then I'm off to download Susan Boyle sings the songs of Dylan.

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Sheev | 25 April 2009 - 7:46pm

Forever Dead

Unless you're a downhome country rock fan ( and by country rock I don't mean The Eagles) avoid starting with Workingmen's Dead. The songs are great but the singing is so atrocious only a tie-dyed-in-the-wool Deadhead snob could possibly recommend it over the significantly more accomplished and alluring American Beauty.
Otherwise the much-ignored Mars Hotel is one of the band's best studio efforts. It includes a quintessential Jerry Garcia solo on the fade of Ship Of Fools which is so sublimely fluent in its clarinet-like phrasing that it boosts the argument which says that the Dead were not only a grown-up and freaked-out jugband but were the closest thing in rock ever to a genuinely anarchic Dixieland jazz combo - one in which no individual musician ever played the root chord or hit beat one if they could possibly avoid it. Resulting in music where, on a good night, the whole could be significantly greater than the sum of the parts.
Consequently the Grateful Dead were always at their best ( and their worst) when recorded live. Europe 72 is probably the tour-de-force collection, but for my money nothing beats the second Live Dead ( aka Skull and Roses or Skull Fuck). Alongside a clutch of their own classsics, they post red hot performances of well-chosen R&B and country covers - check full tilt versions of Merle Haggard's Mama Tried and Papa John Phillips' Me and My Uncle and an extended workout on the traditional Going Down The Road Feeling Bad. All feature tight three part harmonies which are all the more impressive given that they were performed in real time without overdubs.
Essentially though the Grateful Dead are one of those dryest of dry white wine bands. It takes a while and some work to acquire the taste but once you do its stays with you forever.

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Crash damage waiver | 27 April 2009 - 2:32pm

Welcome to the Massive, Crash

Wise words about the Dead but please understand that we try to rub along with each other here and calling people "Deadhead snob" isn't a great way to introduce yourself :-)

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stimpy | 27 April 2009 - 6:43pm

Skull & Roses

is also in the little package of goodness already winging its way...

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Vulpes Vulpes | 27 April 2009 - 6:47pm

Is there anything you DIDN'T send?

:-)

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stimpy | 27 April 2009 - 6:53pm

My choice of four to forward was as follows:

Workingman's Dead
Skull & Roses
Blues For Allah
Terrapin Station

I thought that was a pretty good demonstration of the Dead's range.

I'd be interested in anyone else's four-disc Dead Summary!

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Vulpes Vulpes | 27 April 2009 - 7:44pm

White wine and bluesmen

Re: "Essentially though the Grateful Dead are one of those dryest of dry white wine bands. It takes a while and some work to acquire the taste but once you do its stays with you forever."

It's funny that for me the taste was almost instant and a bit unexpected. I watched the live relay of the '81 Rockpalast show, in part for the Who-I'd seen them not long before iirc (certainly in 80-81). Had only heard Shakedown Street, and their image suggested something rather different from this:


or this:


In the former case it was Weir's delivery, in the latter the song lyrics really that spoke to me.

I envy those who saw shows as good as that Winterland (edit: should have been Radio City) one I linked to above though-to me that really does show that Dixie quality that you allude to-something that really does get under the skin for some people. Couldn't claim to have pursued the vast catalogue in depth-hope to remedy this in the Spotify/Youtube era-but did leap at the chance to see them in Oakland in early 90s.

And on the Jazz theme, did any of the shows that Miles Davis played as an opener to them get recorded ? And are there any recorded joint jams ?"

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SpaceBoy | 28 April 2009 - 5:26pm

I'm poised like a wicket keeper at the letterbox

As the lucky lad who will be receiving these soon I will be posting my considered impressions later.

If you'll excuse the conceit that anyone other than myself would be remotely bothered.

Since Vulpes kind gesture I've hung off Spotify for the mo and have instead been trawling the live footage on You Tube (I enjoy watching musicians play almost as much as the listening). It's a massively variable array of performance levels but quite hypnotic. I have to say it's been positive.

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Beezer | 27 April 2009 - 9:47pm

If the Dead haters don't mind...

Please could Stimpy post some reviews of The 2009 Dead? Would love to know what he thinks. Only saw them once (Halloween 1990, Wembley Arena) but would travel cross country if they ever returned to Europe.

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Cornwall Guy | 27 April 2009 - 10:29pm

Will do...

I'm off to the West Coast in a few days :-)

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stimpy | 28 April 2009 - 8:45am

History of My Grateful Dead

My own long experience of the Dead echoes many of the comments above. Here’s a description of my own (unguided) steps to enlightenment plus my personal recommendations.
Started as a teenager with American Beauty which I bought on the back of a review (in Sounds I think) when it was first released – admittedly partly motivated by the wish to claim a band for myself that my friends weren’t familiar with. Although vaguely aware of them I didn’t really know what to expect But I loved it – being partial to a country rock sound anyway. There’s some great songs below the surface – Box of Rain, Candyman, Brokedown Palace - some may think it sounds a bit feeble at first listen but it’s beautifully played and sung.
After this I came across the Skull & Roses live double album. I hadn’t known of it – but it was specially priced I think, so I bought it and got my introduction to a broader spectrum of Dead music and particularly Jerry’s guitar work. Played it incessantly then – and converted my friends, and still love it and play it now. Bertha, Me & My Uncle, a driving version of Big Railroad Blues and Not Fade Away/Goin’ Down the Road (which was regarded in our circle as a bit of an anthem at the time).
First saw them at Wembley in 1972 – an unforgettable experience, probably the most affecting performance I’ve ever been to (although not considered a particularly remarkable gig for them). The sense I got was of a group of people playing music for their friends - the audience. No flash, no posing, no pretence – but not merely drugged out doodlers either. (Saw them again in 1974 at Alexandra Palace, but don’t remember that one as vividly).
Bought the Europe ‘72 Live Triple around that time – which I think reflects a great period of their playing especially Jack Straw, China Cat Sunflower, Brown Eyed Women, Ramble On Rose, Tennessee Jed, He’s Gone .
Also picked up Workingmen’s Dead – but never took to it as much as American Beauty. Of the earlier stuff, the cut of Dark Star on Live Dead is still my favourite version
I never really bothered with their subsequent studio albums – I’m more familiar with their other material through the bewildering wealth of live versions on official live albums and the internet, and there’s endless exploring available. In general I find the studio versions more stilted. Other songs I always particularly look out for on the live sets are Cassidy, Scarlet Begonias, Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo, Stella Blue, Sugaree, Cold Rain & Snow, New Minglewood Blues and Wharf Rat. The versions vary but there are gems amongst them.
And maybe I’m deluded, but I’m actually frequently struck by how often – to me at any rate - the Dead’s music can be (dare I say it) funky, and it urges you to move.

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Michaelincognito | 28 April 2009 - 5:09pm

You wouldn't be my old mucker

Mike Madden from Plymouth by any chance, would you? If not, cue X-Files music, 'cos that's Mike's GD exploration described almost exactly, and he's the bugger responsible for my penniless condition as a Dead collector.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 28 April 2009 - 7:54pm

Sorry, No, I am not he.

Spooky !

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Michaelincognito | 28 April 2009 - 8:32pm

Things I know about the Dead

Jerry Garcia and Bob Weir
Several dead keyboard players. Pigpen?
"Jerry was there"
A video featuring skeletons
"A deadhead sticker on a Cadillac"
Grateful When You're Dead by Kula Shaker

...but I can't recall ever hearing a single song by them, or even name one.

Weird. I feel unworthy.

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Captain Underpants | 28 April 2009 - 8:20pm

There's plenty of advice in this thread

including some Spotify links and some tidy Youtube clips - you have no excuse now :-)

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stimpy | 28 April 2009 - 8:55pm

Apart from common sense.

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LOUDspeaker | 29 April 2009 - 3:03pm

Spotify Playlist

I've started a collaborative introductory playlist on Spotify. Other Dead fans - feel free to add to it. The idea is to provide a fairly gentle introduction to their music for the uninitiated, so I've tried to stick to the more approachable stuff

http://open.spotify.com/user/michaeljohn/playlist/1AL0OPPfasAW45omMratVM

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Michaelincognito | 29 April 2009 - 11:27am

Pride of Cucamonga

I knew you wouldn't put this track up, a stand out from "From the Mars Hotel", always curiously overlooked and underated by the critics. I love it, a rare Phil Lesh composition. So I have added it. Go and see what I mean, link as above but, new, improved!
;-)

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Retropath2 | 29 April 2009 - 7:45pm

They're here!

Thanks again Vulpes.

Bloody Hell I hope I'm impressed after all this effort!

Comments to follow. Manage as best as you can till then, ladies and gentlemen.

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Beezer | 29 April 2009 - 8:26pm

Enjoy...

Let us know what you think!

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stimpy | 30 April 2009 - 7:22am
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