The Girls Nearby The Man

There appears to be an unwritten rule that demands, when one is expecting children, that all one's friends and relations must gather to tell horror stories regarding their own and others' bouts of birthing and parenthood.

Pregnant woman, of course, get the worst of it - gleeful retellings of various tearings, stitchings and clampings, described in vivid Technicolour detail, and qualified with an insincere "But I'm sure YOU'LL be alright."

Fathers, on the other hand, are offered a friendly slap on the shoulder and the knowledge that "Your life will never be the same again."

I recall one well-meaning friend, when my daughters were near birth, saying, with all seriousness, that I was "obviously going to give up this music lark, now that I had responsibilities."

I didn't - and I can't even begin to pretend that being a father has prevented me from doing anything I wanted to do, other than have a bed containing only adults for more than 15 minutes at a time. It is true, however, that my life changed forever.

For instance, when I slipped my brand new copy of Elvis Costello's Momofuku on to my regrettably dusty turntable this morning, the song that leapt out at me first was "My Three Sons", a classy and catchy paean to fatherhood that I dearly wish I had written. Of course, my two daughters might take rather badly to be referred to as three sons, but my point stands.

I have had children as long as I have been a professional musician, and they have been, perhaps, the single greatest influence on how I work, yet I have never written a song about them. I've thought about it, often, but every time I do so, I find myself terrified of venturing down a maudlin, saccharine road, from which I would then have to beat a hasty retreat, derisive hollers echoing in my ears.

Then again, I find uncomplicated love songs difficult to stomach for the same reason. Thankfully, my love life has never been simple, so I've always been able to throw in a twist without reaching too strenuously. But my children... well, that's a far less complicated love.

They're six now, and, having been exposed to music all their lives, are starting to form their own opinions, and exhibit their own sense of style and taste, and it's the first time I've ever found being a parent and being a musician to be a difficult combination.

Do you know how hard it is to listen to a six-year-old warbling a Westlife song she's heard on the radio and reply, as one should, "That's beautiful, darling!" instead of what I'm really thinking, which is, "Out Demon! In the name of Jesus, I thee expel!"?

Mind you, I remember when my daughters were three and we were working on our second album. I used to play them the mixes to see if they'd dance, because the automatic response of a toddler is pretty much identical to that of your average Radio One listener, so it's a good commercial testing ground, if not an artistic one.

One particular song came on, of which I was, and am, very proud. It moved nicely, the band played exceptionally, I didn't want to rewrite more than 1/4 of it after it was finished... it was a good one.

My marginally older daughter (by minutes), however, stopped dancing and tapped me on the shoulder.

"That one's crap," she said, "Don't play that one when you go to work."

I laughed on the outside, but on the inside I was thinking, "What the hell do you know? YOU like High School Musical!"

Do you see what I mean? They think I'm mental because I throw things at the television when yet another haircut and testicle-strangling-trouser band appears on the screen, or another vapid, soul-destroying talent show. They honestly don't understand why I, like them, can't enjoy Elvis Costello AND watch the mentally challenged audition for parts in Oliver!. Why, they ask, am I so vocal about the need for someone to punch Andrew Lloyd Hobbit very hard in the face?

Maybe they're right. Maybe I'm crazy. But I just may be the lunatic they're... Damn it! How did Billy Joel creep in there?

All I know is, they're my real audience, and I think that 98% of my drive to succeed has shifted, over the last six years, from my belt-stretching bloat of my ego to my desire to please them, to make them proud. And if that's not a good enough reason to put up with the slings and arrows inherent in chasing a dream, I don't know what is.

They're still not getting Leona Lewis for Christmas, though. They can have Joni Mitchell and like it.

Now listen, son

When our eldest daughter, who is now 25, was 14, I would bring a CD home for her and she was fulsome in her gratitude.
When our son, who is now almost 21, was 14, I would bring a CD home for him and he would take if from me and say thank you but he wouldn't get out of his chair.
Our youngest is now 15 and I took a CD home for her recently. "Thanks," he said. "Leave it there."
It's still where I put it.
It's not to do with Joni Mitchell vs Westlife. It's to do with something that used to be the be-all and end-all becoming just another entertainment option.

David Hepworth | 8 May 2008 - 1:14pm

You are, of course...

...entirely correct. I think I'm more alarmed by the fact that, at 31, I'm already finding myself muttering to myself about that fact!

I was expecting another good 15 years before I started muttering about how it used to be.

Ah well, I've heard them muttering about me as well.

Kentonist | 8 May 2008 - 1:20pm

Only two things to add...

When "Wonderwall" became a hit, readers with a memory for detail will recall that there were two versions of it kicking around: the original and the cover by Mike Flowers Pops. My daughter, who would have been 8 at the time, declared that she liked the song but we could never figure out which version she preferred.

Then it dawned on me - it didn't matter. Who cares? Which ever one rocked her boat, that was fine. It's all pop music, whatever anyone says. So I take the stand - don't ever tell me that the music I like is rubbish - tell me you don't like it, but don't say it's rubbish. I've got both versions (and the Ryan Adams job) on the 'pod even as I type.

The other thing - the day daughter number two came along I was driving from the hospital with a library copy of Nick Lowe's "The Abominal Showman" on, and the song that came up pretty soon was "How Do You Talk To An Angel" - serendipity or what? So that's Molly's tune, even though she hates it. Cheers, Nick - you'll never know how much it means to me.

Stephen Hanley | 8 May 2008 - 1:27pm

Love songs to kids don't have to be rubbish

This one isn't. And what a lovely line - "every day I look in a different face" - to describe watching a child grow up.

As for what music your children listen to: leave them be and let them find their own way.

Richard Lowe | 8 May 2008 - 1:37pm

You're spot on Richard. Last

You're spot on Richard. Last night my youngest was listening to "Birdhouse in Your Soul" by They Might Be Giants, streamed from somewhere. If I'd shoved my copy of "Flood" towards her, she would never have touched it with a B.P.

Stephen Hanley | 8 May 2008 - 1:41pm

Absolutely!

You're spot on Richard.

Until relatively recently my (12 year old) daughter was listening to, and occasionally buying, anything that went into the top 10, declaring that it was all "great". Over the last month or so I've noticed that she has begun to gravitate more towards Amy Winehouse & Duffy, and other stuff that one could conceivably call 'soul' music.

Now, I'm tempted to thrust a copy of Aretha's greatest hits into her hands saying "You like those, so try this, it's fantastic", but why bother? If she decides that's the music she likes she'll find her own way to Aretha and will enjoy it so much more if it doesn't come stamped with my approval. On the other hand she may decide in a few weeks' time that she prefers Nine Inch Nails or, even, Andrew Lloyd Weber's musicals. Good for her. I'm just glad that she's developing a passion for music, particularly because, as David H said, there are so many other entertainment options available in 2008.

Exploring all that music out there can be a fantastic journey and in my view it's one that's best undertaken alone. She knows I'm here to point things out to her if ever she wants to ask, but I doubt she will...

David Ellcock | 8 May 2008 - 5:18pm

Again...

You're all spot on. I do TRY to hide my grumpy ways from the offspring and I envy them their fresh ears. It's a continual eye opener. That changing face line is beautiful. Funnily enough
one of mine looked in the mirror this morning and didn't recognise herself.

It near moved me to tears.

Kentonist | 8 May 2008 - 4:55pm

I love it when

my 9 year old son finds a song on a cd (or more likely with every passing day) my itunes that I haven't really listened too and gets into it. I'll find it being given 5 stars and it arriving into my top rated section. And then we both end up thinking its great. His job is to keep my ears young and when we hit some common ground its a great place to be.

Leedsboy | 8 May 2008 - 5:28pm

Points of view...

I'm both thrilled and fascinated to see that what was me waffling, as usual, has actually been quite an illuminating discussion.

What Mr. Hepworth said early on is true, music is now a different ball-game what with the myriad options available, but so many of you have children who ARE becoming passionate about music - as indeed are mine. So, definitely, whatever they like, that has to be encouraged.

Ah, there's hope for us yet!

Kentonist | 8 May 2008 - 5:33pm

Tomorrow belongs to them

I'm sure that many of us can cope with their friends showing evidence of the tin ear syndome that will tolerate tripe on in the background, but it becomes truly horrible when your son/daughter listens to your 'beyond criticism' favourite and doesn't get it.

Likewise etched on my heart is the image of my daughter aged about 4 dancing/miming to 'I'm only sleeping' (She's now 18)

Sorry..something in my eye..

muttnjeff | 8 May 2008 - 6:51pm

So it goes...

I came in tonight, and daughter no 2 was listening to "Be Young Be Foolish Be Happy" by the Tams, followed by "Pump it Up" by Elvis Costello. Her ipod is called "Costello". I'm swelling with pride!

We'd better stop here before we start loading baby photos...

Stephen Hanley | 8 May 2008 - 9:51pm