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Gerrard fight

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So the Gerrard punch up in a Southport club was over the DJ's choice of music..what music would cause the him to act so violently?....certainly nothing low brow..what does the Massive think?

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A non-lawyer writes

Umm... unless we're going to couch everything in terms of "allegedly", this is best left alone until the court case is concluded. Seriously.

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johnlyons121 | 21 July 2009 - 5:27pm

Low brow

heh heh!

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ChaosandMorphine | 21 July 2009 - 5:33pm

Indeed, m'lud

cos if the 12 good men and true of the jury were to be members of the Massive they might be swayed if we suggested that Stevie was requesting that Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting be played.

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Bruised Mike | 21 July 2009 - 5:34pm

I think

'berk'.

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eddie g | 21 July 2009 - 5:35pm

Incredibly, it was over Phil Collins (58)

which, even more incredibly, Mr. Gerrard (29) wanted played.

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Mark JF | 21 July 2009 - 6:19pm

Is that libellous?

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Leedsboy | 21 July 2009 - 6:57pm

Be beautiful

if it was "Against All Odds (Take a Look at Me Now)"

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spinoza013 | 21 July 2009 - 7:29pm

We need to hear

Both Sides of the Story. Maybe Mr. G wanted the "Hits" album played but, Against all Odds, someone refused his request and he showed his True Colours. "Take Me Home" said a tired Mr. G...

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Mark JF | 21 July 2009 - 8:42pm

No

You have to be kidding.

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Bruised Mike | 21 July 2009 - 6:22pm

according to Popbitch

this was played six times. I guess Stevie G doesn't like latin tinged 80s pop

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badartdog | 21 July 2009 - 7:19pm

Erm...

...without wishing to say too much, the playing of the song alluded to a vile, entirely unsubstantiated rumour concerning Steven Gerrard's family.

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Paolo Meccano | 22 July 2009 - 1:33pm

Can you imagine the kind of provocation

someone like Steven Gerrard is subjected to pretty much anywhere he goes in public. Especially licensed premises. Steven Gerrard is a hard player but not a violent one and I don’t remember him ever “flaring up” even though he’s been a marked man for so long.
I suspect his “victim” wasn’t entirely innocent.
Max Clifford involved yet?

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Richard Lowe | 22 July 2009 - 5:15pm

Maybe the alledged victim

was a Stool Pigeon ..ha,cha,cha,cha

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spinoza013 | 23 July 2009 - 10:44am

I don't know how this came to pass...

he normally dives if anyone's within five yards of him!

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Black Type | 23 July 2009 - 10:48pm

nah

you're confusing him with that mardy Ronaldo!

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Bingham | 24 July 2009 - 4:05pm

Unlike Mr Collins

he didn't miss again.

Allegedly.

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Black Type | 21 July 2009 - 7:21pm

Ooops

laptop malfunction!

Could you please delete the first two posts, Mr Lewry?

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Black Type | 21 July 2009 - 7:30pm

And in any case

Who cares?

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masked tortilla | 21 July 2009 - 7:37pm

Footballer's Dubious Taste in Music

I remember reading that Victoria and David Beckham used to take the mickey out of Ryan Giggs because he loved Steps.

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smithylad | 21 July 2009 - 10:03pm

No,

it was step-OVERS :-)

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Black Type | 21 July 2009 - 11:25pm
LOUDspeaker | 22 July 2009 - 9:57am
spinoza013 | 22 July 2009 - 10:21am

Ronaldo is thick

If he thinks Oasis are better than the Beatles
he probably thinks Shakin Stevens is better than Elvis too

what a winker

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MrRadio | 22 July 2009 - 11:32am

Rich prick

in punch up shocker. Who gives a flying fxxxxxxx?

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Southern River | 22 July 2009 - 7:49am

Would you expect a footballer

to have anything but the most boring taste in music?

That aside, it's because someone dared say no to him and he couldn't handle it. Arsehole.

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Five-Centres | 22 July 2009 - 11:43am

That was the verdict from...

... the Five-Centres jury. Would bet a pound to a penny he get's let off with a warning.

Change the name from Gerrard to Barton, it would be a different story in the press.

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Reno Dakota | 22 July 2009 - 11:56am

You're probably right

The jury have been made to sign forms saying they won't let their love of the team cloud their judgment. Hmmmm....

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Five-Centres | 22 July 2009 - 12:28pm

who is this bloke?

Never heard of him until this story today. You might have guessed I have no knowledge of (nor interest in) footie. And apparently he's some football oik. Well good for the bloke who said No - a few more people should do the same. Nothing nicer than puncturing these assholes' egos - it's quite delightful.

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PhilC | 22 July 2009 - 1:00pm

See my post above...

...and you might revise your opinion of the people involved.

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Paolo Meccano | 22 July 2009 - 1:36pm

Perhaps

...but only by approx a nanometre.

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PhilC | 22 July 2009 - 3:26pm

Never heard of the bloke

know nothing about the case.
But here's my opinion on it anyway.
Fantastic.
The Daily Mail website is that way.

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ChaosandMorphine | 22 July 2009 - 4:46pm

I know it's all a matter of

I know it's all a matter of taste, and one man's wine is another's poison but exactly WHY do footballers, both old and new, have dreadful taste (in clothes, in cars, in houses, but especially...)
in music?
You can't even imagine any of the 60's generation liking anything more edgy than Tom Jones or 'Vegas' Elvis. From memory, most seemed to idolize Sinatra.
Is it written into their contracts or something?

Of course, it is not limited to footballers.
Kevin Pietersen's all-time hero seems to be Simon Cowell.
He absolutely adores the guy apparently.
Why? How? It's got to be adequate reason to drop him from the Ashes team.

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ranger | 22 July 2009 - 1:28pm

Er...

Elvis started his first Las Vegas residency in July 1969...

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Inky Fingers | 22 July 2009 - 1:58pm

Er...

Elvis started his first Las Vegas residency in July 1969...

And since when has liking Frank Sinatra been 'dreadful taste in music'?

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Inky Fingers | 22 July 2009 - 2:01pm

The answer lies, I would wager, in sociology

English professional footballers are mostly solid lads from working-class backgrounds and their tastes reflect those of their peers. Perhaps there are footballers who live in Islington, have a taste for biodynamic wines of the southern Rhone, buy their clothes from Crew and Boden, read Russian literature and are looking forward to the new Turin Brakes CD. If there are, they are probably French. If English then they will be known to their mates as either a) "Professor" or b) "Poof".

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Lenny Law | 22 July 2009 - 2:13pm

In the same way that

from the late 70's or so to the early 90's a liking for Alexander O'Neal, Luther Vandross and/or George Benson seemed to be de rigeur.

Nothing necessarily wrong with any of that, just not my cup of tea, thanks.

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illuminatus | 22 July 2009 - 2:26pm

The Liverpool squad did an i-pod randomizer

on the eve of the European Cup Final in Athens, 2007:

Peter Crouch: The Weekend - Byron Stingley
Steven Gerrard: Dakota - Stereophonics
Jamie Carragher: Waterfall - Stone Roses, In My Life - Johnny Cash
Pepe Reina: Eye Of The Tiger - Survivor, “The Training Montage from Rocky IV”
Robbie Fowler: Everybody’s Changing - Keane
Luis Garcia: Say It Right - Nelly Furtado
Sami Hyypia: Numb/Encore - Jay Z & Linkin Park
Craig Bellamy: Red Red Wine - UB40
Xabi Alonso: Stand By Me - Oasis
Daniel Agger: Gardens Tale - Volbeat (Danish heavy metal)

A fairly typical representative sample of the musical tastes of young men of that age, I’d say.
Footballers are normal people when it comes to music, i.e. they have the kind of taste that “people who are really into music” sneer at.

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Richard Lowe | 22 July 2009 - 4:42pm

A rare exception

Working in a second hand record shop, I sold a copy of the Swans 12" EP Raping A Slave to Pat Nevin.

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Fraser Lewry | 22 July 2009 - 4:52pm

Pat Nevin was an NME-reading indie kid

who looked like Johnny Marr.

I once sold Neville Southall a leather piano key tie when I put in a Christmas stint at Burtons. He was with Adrian “Inchy” Heath who persuaded the sartorially clueless Neville that this was just the thing for the Everton Xmas party. (How footballers love their “wind-ups”.) Weird to think that footballers once shopped for clothes in Burtons.

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Richard Lowe | 22 July 2009 - 5:00pm

I served Chris Woods [England Keeper]

when I worked for Our Price ... can't remember what he bought...Phil Collins probably

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spinoza013 | 23 July 2009 - 10:46am

Wasn't KP's wife 'discovered'...

... or made famous by a Simon Cowell production?

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Reno Dakota | 22 July 2009 - 1:47pm

Gerrard cleared...

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Paolo Meccano | 24 July 2009 - 2:06pm

oh yeah

justice is done...Johnny Cochran sleep peacefully

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Bingham | 24 July 2009 - 4:08pm

If all you know of this case...

...is what you've read in the press, then you haven't heard the half of it.

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Paolo Meccano | 24 July 2009 - 4:13pm

Do tell...

You inferred that Kid Creole may be involved...

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Richie B | 24 July 2009 - 4:20pm

Erm, I'd like to...

...but I'm not sure if I can without appearing to cast aspersions on one of the parties involved.

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Paolo Meccano | 24 July 2009 - 4:26pm

Hmmmmm...

...and yet every single one of his mates was somehow guilty of at least one related offence?

How did that happen?

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Paul Waring | 24 July 2009 - 4:33pm

Oh that's good...

now I can safely launch some upper-cuts into the face of the guy that looked at me funny in the pub last night....don't worry folks I'll find him.

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spinoza013 | 25 July 2009 - 9:34am

OK....

I would assume therefore that the oh-so-hilarious actions of the DJ bloke in playing a Kid Creole track repeatedly would imply that "one of the parties" has been cuckolded?

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Richie B | 24 July 2009 - 4:30pm

Yes, that's the root of it.

The news coverage (BBC) of this case presents it simply as an argument over possession of a CD control player, which doesn't add up. When you learn that a certain song had been played repeatedly, it begins to make more sense, especially if you're aware of both the vile rumour concerning one of the parties and the footballing allegiance of the other, which presumably they felt justified their petty behaviour that night.

If this had been a case of 'dick provokes group of people, persisting even when asked to desist and ends up getting a slap', a lot of people would have thought 'serves him right' and there certainly wouldn't have been this circus had a famous footballer not had the misfortune to be involved.

Also, questions have to be asked about why the case was brought at all, considering the CCTV footage (provided by someone working for the club or the police, presumably) was on YouTube shortly after the incident.

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Paolo Meccano | 25 July 2009 - 9:58am

The internet

seems to be complicating the judicial process

wasn't the Baby P trial jeopardised by people posting the names of the accused on blogs?

interesting times.

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spinoza013 | 25 July 2009 - 10:00am
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