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From Monkey talk to Michael Jackson's bank account: the Word Podcast covers the issues that don't matter

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Jude Rogers joins Mark Ellen, David Hepworth and Matt Hall to discuss: how monkeys talk, why Michael Jackson doesn't have a bank account, what it's like to go to a gig without music, David Tennant's skull, what it's like to share an elevator with Bubbles, why Simon Cowell is remarkably irritating and what Bono is buying Brian Eno for Christmas. This podcast features a special guest appearance from Janet with some toast.

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Re: self love

The lyrical inscription really should be 'sisters are doin' it for themselves'.

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Patrick Crowther | 27 November 2008 - 8:29am

Bubbles meets monitor lizards

Well folks when it came to podcast 77 it is fair to say “ You have done it again “

I hope,in the future , we will still hear from other casters what they would say to Prince on the doorstep . It is good to know that Mark could converse with Bubbles , should Jacko end up selling dishcloths door to door .

Linking topics, if a joy toy requires inscribed lyrics it would be hard to beat ( no pun intended ) “ ….and every breath we drew was hallelujah “

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Danmac | 27 November 2008 - 8:52am

Lyrics for 'me time' devices

I know it doesn't quite work, but "Beat it... just beat it".

And how about the single entendre that is "Slide it it, right to the top" from Slide It In by Whitesnake..?

By the way, on the David Tennant skull thing, it wasn't that they didn't tell the audience lest they freak out, it was that they didn't tell the press lest it overshadow the production. One can only assume that the credit crunch is biting and anything that might put the play back in the public eye and put bums on seats is fair game. Now the play has proved itself, it's not a problem to let us all know about the skull.

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Fraser M | 27 November 2008 - 1:38pm

Prince is *definitely* a Jehovah's Witness

Here's Kevin Smith talking about the week he spent making a documentary for Prince. If you have time listen to the whole thing cos it's hilarious, but this bit is where he talks about Prince's "casual" wardrobe


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simonperrins | 27 November 2008 - 2:07pm

Kevin reveals on the follow up

DVD that Prince went nuts over this bit of his live show and tore Paisley Park apart trying to find the confidentiality contract that he got Smith to sign. Trouble is that Smith was given one but never signed it. Its a fascinating peek into the Purple One's paranoid world.

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DogFacedBoy | 27 November 2008 - 4:03pm

I Touch Myself aside

how about an AC\DC branded pocket penis pal? 'You Shook Me All Night Long', Shake Your Foundations', 'Heatseeker'. 'Ride On' , Up To My Neck In You' 'Beating Around The Bush' Let There Be Coc- er, Rock'. Plenty to choose from.....

Didn't FGTH have a promo electric female fun flute back in the day?

Love the recent rambling 'casts they hsve been aces. although shame on you for ruining Brian Eno's Xmas. I hope he doesn't end up The Little Boy That Santa Claus Forgot.

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DogFacedBoy | 27 November 2008 - 4:06pm

Tell me I'm wrong

This song has got to be about you know what. She wants a Robot Man, seven nights a week. Not a real life boy who gives her grief and always makes her 'cry' into her handkerchief.


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Lucas Hare | 27 November 2008 - 8:00pm

Great record

But I don't think vibrators were mentioned in even impolite society until the 70s.

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David Hepworth | 27 November 2008 - 9:36pm

Fairly tingle with the glow of living

Probably true as far as songs go, and yet maybe that should be the 1870s:

"The electric vibrator had its inception in 1869 with the invention of a steam-powered massager, patented by an American doctor. This device was designed as a medical tool for treating "female disorders." Within 20 years a British doctor followed up with a more portable battery-operated model; by 1900, dozens of styles of electric vibrators, just like those in our exhibit, were available to the discriminating medical professional.

[...]

Physicians employed vibrating devices in the treatment of "hysteria," which they viewed as the most common health complaint among women of the day.

[...]

The vibrator was later marketed as a home appliance in women's magazines and mail order catalogs. Ads proffering "health, vigor and beauty" promoted the vibrator as a health aid. By the 1920s, doctors had abandoned hands-on physical treatments for hysteria in favor of psychotherapeutic techniques. But vibrators continued to have an active commercial life in which they were marketed (much like snake oil) as cure-alls for ills ranging from headaches and asthma to "fading beauty" and even tuberculosis!

The ad copy for these vibrators was coy and ambiguous. "Be a glow getter," one package insert suggests. And who wouldn't be tempted to experience "that delicious, thrilling health-restoring sensation called vibration," when assured that "it makes you fairly tingle with the joy of living"? The vibrator's usefulness for masturbation was never acknowledged; however, as vibrators began appearing in stag films of the 1920s, it became difficult to ignore their sexual function. Probably as a result, advertisements for vibrators gradually disappeared from respectable publications." - from The Antique Vibrator Museum at the rather not-safe-for-work Good Vibrations via Google

I am sure the song had this guy in mind, however ;-)

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SpaceBoy | 27 November 2008 - 11:35pm

Not true, Mr Hepworth

Don't ask me how I know.

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Thomas the Rhymer | 28 November 2008 - 2:49pm

My friend and I...

found his mum's collection (yes, collection) of self love gadgetry when we were kids in the late 1970s, and we pretended that they were light sabres. Well they didn't glow, but they did make a whirring noise...

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Patrick Crowther | 28 November 2008 - 4:17pm

Coin-Operated Boy

I think this might refer to aforementioned self-love gadgets. Partly, anyway.


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Dr Yang | 8 December 2008 - 9:10pm

Richard Coles

I hate to be one of those people, but you celebrate Richard Coles for having been in Bronski Beat. I'm afraid he was in the Communards, with Jimi Somerville, ex- of Bronski Beat. Two different groups.

I love Richard Coles, and can concur with Mr Hall that he really could tell some stories! (And still can, just not so much in the present tense any more. I've met him as a fully-fledged reverend, and he was still enormously entertaining.)

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Andrew_Collins | 27 November 2008 - 10:26pm

What chance an invite into the pod for Rev'd Coles?

Could he offer a HORA/thought for the week? Coles Corner perhaps?

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Cornwall Guy | 3 December 2008 - 1:32pm

It has become a tradition

(well this would be the second week) for me to make a comment on the podcast, and for David to step in and remind me that "it is free you know!"

So to maintain the tradition, Bronski Beat errors aside, this was again an excellent edition.

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SirTerence | 27 November 2008 - 11:53pm

Re: Bronski Beat errors

It is free, you know...

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David Hepworth | 28 November 2008 - 6:51pm

Who knows where the time goes

Meanwhile, if Jude or any one else knows the answer, can I ask about the Judy Collins cover of this track ?

I have it on the Elektra UK greatest hits LP sometimes known as Colors of the Day [Bill Clinton's favourite record apparently ...]. I recently picked up the CD, gold disk as apparently the standard CDs had really dodgy sound. Was rather shocked to find that ending of this track appears to have been stitched on in what sounded a rather crude way-maybe an alternate take as the original master had been lost/was faulty ? Am I imagining this ? Does anyone know the story ??

Ultimately it's still Fotheringay that really does it for me.
I remember a wonderful busker's version in the Boston underground only interrupted by the rumble of an arriving train ... pure magic.

[Just listened to them together and confirmed they are two versions-UK LP has just two guitars and a bass, and I *think* they both start out the same, but at "soft deserted shore" the gold CD crossfades into a version with drums from what sounds like a different performance to me i.e. not just an extra track. So I guess my question is does anyone know if any of the CD versions have what I'd assume is the original, sparser, track ?]

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SpaceBoy | 29 November 2008 - 9:16pm

Music for pleasure

What to inscribe on the hilt of sex toy? These foreign objects for which there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

“Holes, dug by little moles,” (Mercury Rev – Holes) with its reference to small, furry mammals, brings to mind an unpleasant urban legend concerning the actor Richard Gere. Even a babelfish-assisted translation into the French tongue - which ordinarily has the power to elevate the mundane to the sensuous and erotic - can’t save it. “Trous, creusés par de petites taupes” sounds to my mono-lingual ears like instructions for the application of a surgical truss.

Probably the best and most honest option would be the lyrics to Man Machine by Kraftwerk.

“Man Machine, pseudo human being
Man Machine, super human being.”

Also its German language counterpart - Die Mensch-maschine

“Mensch Machine
Ein Wesen und ein Ding.”

Ralf Hütter, Florian Schneider and co’s ability to produce progressive, gently rhythmic, minimalist soundscapes, leaves me in no doubt that, if they set themselves to the task, they would produce some of the finest vibrators the world has ever known. Only metronomic drummer, Jaki Liebezeit (from Can) could do a better job.

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backwards7 | 28 November 2008 - 1:43am

Get On Up, Like A Sex Machine-Uh

works for me.

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Archie Valparaiso | 28 November 2008 - 9:52am

On Yodelling

Like many other forms of indiginous folk music yodelling seems to attract its fair share of hilarity, at times with justification. As it happens, the Number One single in Switzerland at the moment is Das Feyr vo dr Sehnsucht by Jodlerklub Wiesenberg & Francine Jordi, rather suggesting that the genre has appeal outside the tourist tat shops. And perhaps the best new thing I heard last year was a "contemporary" yodel CD by Rass-Kalin called Morgeroti. No doubt some are sniggering at all this, but the Morgeroti aklbum conatins some challenging melodies, a quite astonishing piece of work.


(To shoot myself down in flames, I should mention that the only yodel I could find in the iTunes store was My Girlfriend's In Love With A Swiss Mountaineer, not a classic!)

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Bruised Mike | 28 November 2008 - 11:18am

Das ist seriously scary

For some reason it instantly reminded me of this:

Grossly unfair? Yes, perhaps, but I still can't help feeling that "Swiss pop" should be filed in the same box as "Spanish efficiency".

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Archie Valparaiso | 28 November 2008 - 11:32am

I knew there was something else I meant to say!

Re: yodelling, you can also include the 1989 'Bring me Edelweiss' by Edelweiss, a song that reached no 1 in many countries and which was based on the advice given by Bill Drummund and Jimmy Cauty in 'The Manual - How to have a no 1 the other easy way'.

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Fraser M | 28 November 2008 - 1:36pm

Dave Stewart dildo

Presumably you could tell Dave Stewart to stick his lyrics where the sun don't shine.

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Andrew_Collins | 28 November 2008 - 5:30pm

Didn't Dildo Dave once

wear a set of headphones covered with futuristic dildos? I'm not going to search the net for pics but I really think he did. The man's a bit of a buffoon and as a producer he's everything people say Jeff Lynne is (but Jeff isn't).

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Mr Fade | 28 November 2008 - 11:18pm

Pull Up To The Bumper...

... by grace Jones surely would be apt?

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Nicodemus | 29 November 2008 - 6:20am

Gladwell, Ferguson and Taleb-together on stage at last

Greatly enjoyed this week-thanks for "playing real good for free".

Looking forward to hearing the Gladwell interview-heard a good one last year but can't find it now in the Google feast of available stuff by him.

Your report on his back to back gigs (is he the Springsteen of the lecture circuit ?) remind me of my ultimate fantasy factual power trio-would love to see him, Niall Ferguson and "Black Swan" Nassim Taleb mixing their related interests in tipping points, long tails and virtual history [counterfactuals], with Philip Ball as MC, or even Michael Bywater.

In terms of the ability to speak with minimal notes Steven Pinker amazed me when a saw him doing a book promo talk. But some of the absolute masters of the shorter talk seem to be at TED.com

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SpaceBoy | 29 November 2008 - 7:04pm

Yodeling and such

Alison Goldfrapp allegedly learnt yodeling whilst in Holland and uses some of that talent on the title track of Felt Mountain.
As for unusual toys I recall Reeves Gabrels using a vibrator on his guitar on one UK TV appearance (TOTP?), and the meaning behind She-Bop by Cyndi Lauper was that of 'self-love'.

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Paul T | 1 December 2008 - 5:47pm

David Tennant's Skull

The real one will not be used when the show transfers to the West End. Apparently the audience would find it too distracting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7762012.stm

I find it hard to imagine anyone finding it too distracting, but it does appear to be a good way to keep your PR man busy.

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