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From Lulu to Gaga: The evolution of women in popular music.
Posted by Dave Amitri on 23 January 2010 - 8:27pm.
I've been thinking about posting this for a while so I checked today and "Shout" by Lulu was released in 1965, 45 years ago, my lifetime. We are now in the era of Lady Gaga who sits on top of the pop world in all her extravagant glory a long way from a young Scottish girl belting out old Isley Brothers tunes in black and white. I'd like to compile a history of women in pop by filling the years in between and I know just the people to ask. So starting in 1965 who are the women who took us from Lulu to Gaga?
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1966
Dusty
Also...
(It won't embed, but well worth clicking through to watch)
and..
Kevin Turvey's favourite
Downtown
An everpresent in my top 30 of all time.
The Lulus who never were
In the wake of Lulu's success record companies scoured the British Isles for young lasses with big lusty voices. Fontana had two. There was Pauline Matthews from Bradford, who became Kiki Dee and eventually went on to have a pretty successful career. And there was Jenny Allen, a schoolgirl from Dudley, who released two singles under the name Jenny Wren. No idea what became of her. I wonder what she thought when that Paul McCartney song came out a few years ago.
Here's her single Chasing My Dream All Over Town, an agreeable 'slice' of brassy 1965 Britbeat.
1967
Grace Slick and Jefferson Airplane
1968
Janis Joplin with Big Brother and the Holding Company (Cheap Thrills was released in 1968, the clip is from 1967)
1969
Clodagh Rogers - 'her world was her man - her only man....'. It's me Clodagh! ME! Even now...
1969
I'd nominate Laura Nyro here. In the evolution of female singers from "little belter out of Isley Brothers tunes" to "full on bonkers pop artist thrills" she's a pretty essential step. From 1969's New York Tendaberry, and posted because its about the only actual footage of her on there.
and now, singing a lovely ballad, here is...Mama Cass
More Grace Slick and JA
a few years down the line, from 1971's Bark;
1970
Fanny.
I know we've not got Janis to yet, but I just wanted to get my Fanny shout in, because they were were awesome; even David Bowie thinks so:
"One of the most important female bands in American rock has been buried without a trace. And that is Fanny. They were one of the finest... rock bands of their time. They were extraordinary... they're as important as anybody else who's ever been, ever; it just wasn't their time."
karen should be in there
it is pop music we're talking here
And for '71
Carole King
'nuff said
1972 The Emotions - Blind Alley
A milestone in modern R'n'B. A much sampled beat and the group took the 'girl trio' sound to new heights of sophistication. When Earth Wind & Fire were one of the biggest groups in the world they gave the Emotions, their backing singers, equal billing on the records.
'Blind Alley' wasn't even a single in 1972. If it was new today I reckon it would be No.1 all over the world. That's how popular the sound The Emotions helped create has become.
Queen Joan, approximately
Joni Mitchell has been an inspiration to many women, more than most I would say since this was recorded.
Listen, Listen
1973 - year of my birth
Single came out in November 1973, honest - album followed in '74.
We should bring back the superlative 'singerest-songwritinest' immediately.
1974
Number one when I was born...
Interesting premise,
But by starting in 1965 you miss out these top pop sensations:
The Marvellettes - Please Mr Postman (1961)
And these
The Ronettes - Be My Baby (1963)
And this
Mary Wells - My Guy (1964)
Lulu to Gaga
just sounded good to me, go back as far as you like it's all good stuff. Now where's that Vera Lynn clip?
Alternative 1967 suggestion
This had a pretty profound effect...
Speaking of Lady GaGa
I was gutted to be out of email contact over Christmas and New Year, so I couldn't send in my entry to the Jan 2010 issue Caption Comp. The picture of Bernie Bresslaw just threw into my head:
"The kids weren't impressed, and the rumours about Lady Gaga seemed just that bit more plausible."
Don't forget Bobbie..
great song and not a one-hit wonder as she also had I'll never fall in love again
Slightly misplaced from 1968..
now I get it.
Another from 1974
who as one of my favourites deserves a mention if we're talking evolution. 1975 anyone?
Over to the Wolfman...
to introduce five guys and a girl:
1975
Possibly this? The album Perfect Angel, whence it came, was released in 1974 but, as the 4th single it charted in April 1975
1975
Susan Cadogan 'Hurt So Good'
1975? The Hissing of Summer Lawns
which along with Station to Station - is the best album ever made. This is an immutable fact.
Time moves on - Joni moves on - in love - in life - and musically - leaving nearly all in her wake.
Finally, we disagree!
Normally, I would not question your judgement, and you already know I am with you on Station To Station, but, Joni's best is Blue. She is the best female artist of all time, though, so Hissing is also brilliant!
all good views
and both are great albums, each could be seen as her best, depending on your viewpoint. I have already posted the Blue track on this thread, and recently discovered this, a performance of Edith, from the Rolling Thunder tour in 75. It has some different chords and is quite beautiful - Joni still has the power to blow me away.
1976
A former back-up singer for Stevie Wonder, Deniece Williams was initially backed by Earth, Wind & Fire.
have a heart
1977
also from around this time
though this performance is from 79, the song dates from 76/77
1978
Siouxsie -
Hong Kong Garden
Why is it that the most ephemeral, trashy pop is the stuff that sounds most fresh and new three decades later?
And more 1978 in a different idiom...
No 1, lest we forget
1979
Chrissie Hynde with The Pretenders (huge, steaming pile of Big Macs just out of shot)
chuck, beret
Also 1979
Debbie Harry!
Song is from 1980, this performance from the following year
1981
Also 1981
Also 1981...
Tom Tom Club
More 1981...
Grace Jones
Also 1981..
and a top OHW to boot
Also 1981
Apols for being cack-handed with the mouse and posting twice...
Good god
that's some run from 77 - 81 or in my terms 12 to 16 years old. I must have been in a permanant state of flux!
1982
and we cross to Wales
I'd forgotten that...
Pauline Calf was a recording artiste.
All that smoking
had an interesting affect on her voice.
More 1982...
More Kate Bush
1982 again
Still 1982..
and you can't have this often enough IMO
1982, first appearance of..
Whitney Houston
Is it time for 1983 yet?
If so, this is my suggestion:
Moving on....
1984
Gave Ga Ga goth?
Ooh can I put this in? More '84
Not forgetting
the ground-breaking and deeply influential Nena and "99 luftballons"
Okay - I fancied her something chronic
One more that really is 1984 in a time capsule
This one was everywhere:
This full video encapsulates the mid-1980s more efficiently than the whole 300 odd pages of Martin Amis's Money
Siouxsie? no, this is
Florence and the Machine and their next release isn't it? Why has she dyed those lovely red tresses bottle black though?
1985
It has to be:
complete with memorable armpit under hand-drier moment
I986 1st Album from the Cowboy Junkies..
take it away, Margo from Canada
1986 was also Cassandra Wilson's 1st Album..
take it away, Cassandra from Mississippi
1987 saw the solo debut of Mary Black..
and I dare to offer her cover of Sandy Denny's classic
Looks like...
we are able to enjoy music regardless of the gender that produces it.Hooray for the enlightened!
Ya bunch of sissies!
1987 was a great year
If enjoying this makes me a sissie then I plead guilty
A couple more
70s:
80s:
1988
Neneh Cherry 'Buffalo Stance'. Seem to recall her performing on TOTP while pregnant caused a bit of a stir at the time. Hard to believe today. Yer know what I mean?
More 1988
Perfect pop. With an honourable mention for her former band, the Go-Gos.
Dave's intro says it all
1989
Glad nobody's posted any Sonia clips.
i am stunned
yes, stunned, that no one has drawn attention to this 1989 tune, a transparent paean to American military capability, the objectification of women, imperial puissance, power chords, and virtually naked bottoms astride 16" naval guns ... set the mission of "women in rock" back by decades, plainly
1990
finally, another decent singer songwriter arrives:
Decent singer singing song by decent songwriter
Sinead O'Connor Nothing Compares 2 U
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Wasn't this about 1991?
Also 1991
The Breeders
1990
A bit of Kylie to get things moving? The 90's are a bit of a wasteland aren't they?
1991 Carleen Anderson
single hit from a seriously excellent album
1992 Tasmin Archer..
One-hit wonder. WTF are the lyrics about, anyone?
The Moon,
Apollo space mission, ecology, a rant at America/JFK?
Just a guess.
1992
In the 1990s women songwriters started to reassert themselves, would be my view. To judge by the submissions on this thread for the 1980s, that decade yielded little of lasting value (the obvious exception being Kate Bush). In the 90s, we had Shawn Colvin, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Emmylou got together with Dan Lanois, Alanis Morrisette, Beth Orton, Beth Gibbons, Eddi Reader.....
Anyway, from 92, a bit of feminism for ya:
Bjork 1993
The Last Splash
1994
PJ Harvey 1995
1996
Lest we forget
Jumping to 2000...
...and she makes a welcome reappearance, 35 years on and with a great, self-penned song.
And back to 1996 - Tori Amos
Not sure when footage is from but single was released in 1996
As above...
The Divine Emmylou
I have scrolled down this thread and all the female entries are present with the exception as the always perfect Emmylou.
Some omissions submitted
Kristen Hersh - Throwing Muses
The track is Cottonmouth from one of the finest EPs I have ever bought. I say this without any irony but Kristen Hersh is the single most important woman in rock in the Bisto house. When I was at uni she helped me understand women and, more importantly, helped me to converse with women "intellectually". That probably sounds pretentious but what I mean is that the women I met who liked her music really attracted me in ways I never knew before. I wouldn't say I had a sexist attitude to women but I was naive and ignorant to a degree that her music and influence on female peers helped me recognise.
Betty Boo - Doin' The Do
Just 'cos she reminds me of my wife when I first met her and it's great pop music
Kate Rusby - Playing of Ball
I love this track
this is just a list of
this is just a list of 'women in pop' you might as well have a 'from elvis to chipmunk' thread - how did we get from the king of rock n roll to er, the donny osmond of grime. there is no connection or continuum from lulu (why start with her anyway?) to gaga any more than there's a line to be drawn from say paul robeson to mf doom (well, they're both y'know BLACK)- women...in rock!!!!! not in my lifetime!
Why so serious?
I think the OP has already explained why he chose Lulu - it's the sound of the symmetrical juxtaposition of her name alongside that of GaGa; he just took that as a hopefully light-hearted starting-point for a temporarily engaging diversion.
Which, in the end, is all this blog is aiming to do.
Thanks
A lighthearted look at 45 years of women in music that's all and we've managed 32. Anyone up for the last 13?
Sleater Kinney 1997
I think this is perfect pop music
Britney Spears 1998
A little indulgence here, if I may
This track was playing when the best looking girl in the club asked me to come back to hers. The best night of my life. Sadly only a one night stand but I still hold a torch...
Garbage Late 90's
2000 - Moloko
The divine Miss M.
2000 Shena Ringo
quite Gagaesque visuals in some of Ms Shena's videos.
Some omissions I think.....
Sade in the 80s ?
Tracey Thorne in the 90s ?
Norah Jones in the noughties?
Natalie Merchant/10000 Maniacs all over the shop ?
actuallyI HAVE posted smooth operator
somewhere further upstrand
Back to the 70s - Oh Bondage, Up Yours..
wot abaht Polystyrene & X-Ray Spex? I can see her now on TOTP with her braces singing 'Germ Free Adolescents' (although I lack the nous to put any Youtube stuff on this post)
Allow me
Poly on TOTP
P!NK
Excuse my indulgence
and I know we've missed a few years in the noughties but the circle is complete.