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From Lulu to Gaga: The evolution of women in popular music.

Dave Amitri's picture

I've been thinking about posting this for a while so I checked today and "Shout" by Lulu was released in 1965, 45 years ago, my lifetime. We are now in the era of Lady Gaga who sits on top of the pop world in all her extravagant glory a long way from a young Scottish girl belting out old Isley Brothers tunes in black and white. I'd like to compile a history of women in pop by filling the years in between and I know just the people to ask. So starting in 1965 who are the women who took us from Lulu to Gaga?


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1966

Dusty

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Rigid Digit | 23 January 2010 - 8:33pm

Also...


(It won't embed, but well worth clicking through to watch)

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Gauntlet | 24 January 2010 - 10:49am

and..


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Nick Duvet | 25 January 2010 - 6:08am

Kevin Turvey's favourite


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Nick Duvet | 25 January 2010 - 8:54pm

Downtown

An everpresent in my top 30 of all time.

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clivetemple | 12 February 2010 - 1:15pm

The Lulus who never were

In the wake of Lulu's success record companies scoured the British Isles for young lasses with big lusty voices. Fontana had two. There was Pauline Matthews from Bradford, who became Kiki Dee and eventually went on to have a pretty successful career. And there was Jenny Allen, a schoolgirl from Dudley, who released two singles under the name Jenny Wren. No idea what became of her. I wonder what she thought when that Paul McCartney song came out a few years ago.
Here's her single Chasing My Dream All Over Town, an agreeable 'slice' of brassy 1965 Britbeat.


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Richard Lowe | 27 January 2010 - 6:42pm

1967

Grace Slick and Jefferson Airplane


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Patrick Crowther | 23 January 2010 - 8:40pm

1968

Janis Joplin with Big Brother and the Holding Company (Cheap Thrills was released in 1968, the clip is from 1967)


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Patrick Crowther | 23 January 2010 - 9:46pm

1969

Clodagh Rogers - 'her world was her man - her only man....'. It's me Clodagh! ME! Even now...


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The Californian | 23 January 2010 - 10:22pm

1969

I'd nominate Laura Nyro here. In the evolution of female singers from "little belter out of Isley Brothers tunes" to "full on bonkers pop artist thrills" she's a pretty essential step. From 1969's New York Tendaberry, and posted because its about the only actual footage of her on there.


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ganglesprocket | 24 January 2010 - 10:48am
Nick Duvet | 25 January 2010 - 5:51am

More Grace Slick and JA

a few years down the line, from 1971's Bark;


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TheAwesomeSound | 25 January 2010 - 6:50am

1970

Fanny.

I know we've not got Janis to yet, but I just wanted to get my Fanny shout in, because they were were awesome; even David Bowie thinks so:

"One of the most important female bands in American rock has been buried without a trace. And that is Fanny. They were one of the finest... rock bands of their time. They were extraordinary... they're as important as anybody else who's ever been, ever; it just wasn't their time."


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Pax Romana | 23 January 2010 - 8:51pm

karen should be in there

it is pop music we're talking here


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heshofcheese | 23 January 2010 - 10:40pm

And for '71

Carole King

'nuff said

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spt | 24 January 2010 - 1:10pm

1972 The Emotions - Blind Alley

A milestone in modern R'n'B. A much sampled beat and the group took the 'girl trio' sound to new heights of sophistication. When Earth Wind & Fire were one of the biggest groups in the world they gave the Emotions, their backing singers, equal billing on the records.
'Blind Alley' wasn't even a single in 1972. If it was new today I reckon it would be No.1 all over the world. That's how popular the sound The Emotions helped create has become.


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Richard Lowe | 27 January 2010 - 6:26pm

Queen Joan, approximately

Joni Mitchell has been an inspiration to many women, more than most I would say since this was recorded.


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Nick Duvet | 23 January 2010 - 10:22pm

Listen, Listen


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Nick Duvet | 25 January 2010 - 6:01am

1973 - year of my birth

Single came out in November 1973, honest - album followed in '74.

We should bring back the superlative 'singerest-songwritinest' immediately.


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Specs_Beard | 23 January 2010 - 11:46pm

1974

Number one when I was born...


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ganglesprocket | 24 January 2010 - 10:53am

Interesting premise,

But by starting in 1965 you miss out these top pop sensations:

The Marvellettes - Please Mr Postman (1961)


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Gauntlet | 24 January 2010 - 10:36am

And these

The Ronettes - Be My Baby (1963)


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Gauntlet | 24 January 2010 - 10:39am

And this

Mary Wells - My Guy (1964)


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Gauntlet | 24 January 2010 - 10:40am

Lulu to Gaga

just sounded good to me, go back as far as you like it's all good stuff. Now where's that Vera Lynn clip?

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Dave Amitri | 24 January 2010 - 1:55pm

Alternative 1967 suggestion


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Gauntlet | 24 January 2010 - 10:53am
Iainso | 24 January 2010 - 11:23am

Speaking of Lady GaGa

I was gutted to be out of email contact over Christmas and New Year, so I couldn't send in my entry to the Jan 2010 issue Caption Comp. The picture of Bernie Bresslaw just threw into my head:

"The kids weren't impressed, and the rumours about Lady Gaga seemed just that bit more plausible."

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illuminatus | 24 January 2010 - 11:41am

Don't forget Bobbie..

great song and not a one-hit wonder as she also had I'll never fall in love again


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Declan | 24 January 2010 - 1:55pm

Slightly misplaced from 1968..

now I get it.

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Declan | 25 January 2010 - 12:42am

Another from 1974

who as one of my favourites deserves a mention if we're talking evolution. 1975 anyone?


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Dave Amitri | 24 January 2010 - 2:03pm

Over to the Wolfman...

to introduce five guys and a girl:


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Nick Duvet | 24 January 2010 - 3:38pm

1975

Possibly this? The album Perfect Angel, whence it came, was released in 1974 but, as the 4th single it charted in April 1975


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illuminatus | 24 January 2010 - 2:22pm

1975

Susan Cadogan 'Hurt So Good'


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Sven Garlic | 24 January 2010 - 4:03pm

1975? The Hissing of Summer Lawns

which along with Station to Station - is the best album ever made. This is an immutable fact.

Time moves on - Joni moves on - in love - in life - and musically - leaving nearly all in her wake.


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Sheev | 24 January 2010 - 10:41pm

Finally, we disagree!

Normally, I would not question your judgement, and you already know I am with you on Station To Station, but, Joni's best is Blue. She is the best female artist of all time, though, so Hissing is also brilliant!

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Iainso | 24 January 2010 - 11:08pm

all good views

and both are great albums, each could be seen as her best, depending on your viewpoint. I have already posted the Blue track on this thread, and recently discovered this, a performance of Edith, from the Rolling Thunder tour in 75. It has some different chords and is quite beautiful - Joni still has the power to blow me away.


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Nick Duvet | 25 January 2010 - 5:43am

1976

A former back-up singer for Stevie Wonder, Deniece Williams was initially backed by Earth, Wind & Fire.


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Nick Duvet | 24 January 2010 - 3:49pm

have a heart


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Nick Duvet | 25 January 2010 - 8:51pm

1977


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Black Type | 24 January 2010 - 3:56pm

also from around this time

though this performance is from 79, the song dates from 76/77


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Nick Duvet | 24 January 2010 - 10:42pm

1978


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Black Type | 24 January 2010 - 3:59pm

Siouxsie -

Hong Kong Garden

Why is it that the most ephemeral, trashy pop is the stuff that sounds most fresh and new three decades later?


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Sheev | 24 January 2010 - 10:54pm

And more 1978 in a different idiom...

No 1, lest we forget


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Pilleus Jr | 24 January 2010 - 11:39pm

1979

Chrissie Hynde with The Pretenders (huge, steaming pile of Big Macs just out of shot)


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Patrick Crowther | 24 January 2010 - 6:25pm

chuck, beret


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Nick Duvet | 25 January 2010 - 6:32am

Also 1979


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TheAwesomeSound | 25 January 2010 - 6:39am

Debbie Harry!

Song is from 1980, this performance from the following year


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heshofcheese | 24 January 2010 - 7:03pm

1981


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Rigid Digit | 24 January 2010 - 7:11pm

Also 1981


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Eliz | 24 January 2010 - 8:32pm

Also 1981...

Tom Tom Club


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Patrick Crowther | 24 January 2010 - 9:51pm

More 1981...

Grace Jones


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Patrick Crowther | 24 January 2010 - 10:07pm

Also 1981..

and a top OHW to boot


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Declan | 25 January 2010 - 12:47am

Also 1981

Apols for being cack-handed with the mouse and posting twice...

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Eliz | 24 January 2010 - 8:34pm

Good god

that's some run from 77 - 81 or in my terms 12 to 16 years old. I must have been in a permanant state of flux!

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Dave Amitri | 24 January 2010 - 9:32pm

1982

and we cross to Wales


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Dave Amitri | 24 January 2010 - 9:40pm

I'd forgotten that...

Pauline Calf was a recording artiste.

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Patrick Crowther | 24 January 2010 - 10:13pm

All that smoking

had an interesting affect on her voice.

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Dave Amitri | 24 January 2010 - 10:30pm

More 1982...

More Kate Bush


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Patrick Crowther | 24 January 2010 - 9:57pm

1982 again


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Eliz | 24 January 2010 - 10:23pm

Still 1982..

and you can't have this often enough IMO


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Declan | 24 January 2010 - 11:31pm

1982, first appearance of..

Whitney Houston


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Declan | 25 January 2010 - 12:00am

Is it time for 1983 yet?

If so, this is my suggestion:


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BigJimBob | 24 January 2010 - 10:14pm

Moving on....

1984

Gave Ga Ga goth?


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Sven Garlic | 24 January 2010 - 10:20pm
Eliz | 24 January 2010 - 10:30pm

Not forgetting

the ground-breaking and deeply influential Nena and "99 luftballons"

Okay - I fancied her something chronic


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Sheev | 24 January 2010 - 11:02pm

One more that really is 1984 in a time capsule

This one was everywhere:


This full video encapsulates the mid-1980s more efficiently than the whole 300 odd pages of Martin Amis's Money

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BigJimBob | 25 January 2010 - 9:18am

Siouxsie? no, this is

Florence and the Machine and their next release isn't it? Why has she dyed those lovely red tresses bottle black though?

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BigJimBob | 24 January 2010 - 10:44pm

1985

It has to be:


complete with memorable armpit under hand-drier moment

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Sven Garlic | 24 January 2010 - 10:40pm

I986 1st Album from the Cowboy Junkies..

take it away, Margo from Canada


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Declan | 24 January 2010 - 11:43pm

1986 was also Cassandra Wilson's 1st Album..

take it away, Cassandra from Mississippi


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Declan | 24 January 2010 - 11:55pm

1987 saw the solo debut of Mary Black..

and I dare to offer her cover of Sandy Denny's classic


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Declan | 25 January 2010 - 1:01am

Looks like...

we are able to enjoy music regardless of the gender that produces it.Hooray for the enlightened!

Ya bunch of sissies!

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bricameron | 25 January 2010 - 5:19am

1987 was a great year

If enjoying this makes me a sissie then I plead guilty


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Dave Amitri | 25 January 2010 - 12:25pm

A couple more

70s:


80s:


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Ahh_Bisto | 25 January 2010 - 12:53pm

1988

Neneh Cherry 'Buffalo Stance'. Seem to recall her performing on TOTP while pregnant caused a bit of a stir at the time. Hard to believe today. Yer know what I mean?


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Sven Garlic | 25 January 2010 - 7:35pm

More 1988

Perfect pop. With an honourable mention for her former band, the Go-Gos.


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Pilleus Jr | 25 January 2010 - 9:17pm

Dave's intro says it all


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Nick Duvet | 25 January 2010 - 9:05pm

1989


Glad nobody's posted any Sonia clips.

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Eliz | 25 January 2010 - 10:55pm

i am stunned

yes, stunned, that no one has drawn attention to this 1989 tune, a transparent paean to American military capability, the objectification of women, imperial puissance, power chords, and virtually naked bottoms astride 16" naval guns ... set the mission of "women in rock" back by decades, plainly

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Glenbervie | 29 January 2010 - 8:15pm

1990

finally, another decent singer songwriter arrives:

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Nick Duvet | 25 January 2010 - 11:03pm

Wasn't this about 1991?


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Eliz | 26 January 2010 - 6:58pm

Also 1991


The Breeders

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TheAwesomeSound | 27 January 2010 - 7:11am

1990

A bit of Kylie to get things moving? The 90's are a bit of a wasteland aren't they?


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Dave Amitri | 26 January 2010 - 10:12pm

1991 Carleen Anderson

single hit from a seriously excellent album


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Declan | 26 January 2010 - 11:50pm

1992 Tasmin Archer..

One-hit wonder. WTF are the lyrics about, anyone?


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Declan | 26 January 2010 - 10:33pm

The Moon,

Apollo space mission, ecology, a rant at America/JFK?
Just a guess.

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ChaosandMorphine | 29 January 2010 - 7:33pm

1992

In the 1990s women songwriters started to reassert themselves, would be my view. To judge by the submissions on this thread for the 1980s, that decade yielded little of lasting value (the obvious exception being Kate Bush). In the 90s, we had Shawn Colvin, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Emmylou got together with Dan Lanois, Alanis Morrisette, Beth Orton, Beth Gibbons, Eddi Reader.....

Anyway, from 92, a bit of feminism for ya:


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Nick Duvet | 26 January 2010 - 11:16pm

Bjork 1993


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heshofcheese | 26 January 2010 - 10:48pm

The Last Splash


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Sven Garlic | 27 January 2010 - 7:00pm

1994


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ChaosandMorphine | 31 January 2010 - 9:32pm

PJ Harvey 1995


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TheAwesomeSound | 27 January 2010 - 7:14am

1996

Lest we forget


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Dave Amitri | 27 January 2010 - 11:27pm

Jumping to 2000...

...and she makes a welcome reappearance, 35 years on and with a great, self-penned song.


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Gavin Adam | 27 January 2010 - 9:53am

And back to 1996 - Tori Amos


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indiejules84 | 27 January 2010 - 2:07pm
indiejules84 | 27 January 2010 - 2:10pm

The Divine Emmylou

I have scrolled down this thread and all the female entries are present with the exception as the always perfect Emmylou.


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Ger The Boptist | 29 January 2010 - 7:13pm

Some omissions submitted

Kristen Hersh - Throwing Muses

The track is Cottonmouth from one of the finest EPs I have ever bought. I say this without any irony but Kristen Hersh is the single most important woman in rock in the Bisto house. When I was at uni she helped me understand women and, more importantly, helped me to converse with women "intellectually". That probably sounds pretentious but what I mean is that the women I met who liked her music really attracted me in ways I never knew before. I wouldn't say I had a sexist attitude to women but I was naive and ignorant to a degree that her music and influence on female peers helped me recognise.


Betty Boo - Doin' The Do

Just 'cos she reminds me of my wife when I first met her and it's great pop music


Kate Rusby - Playing of Ball

I love this track


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Ahh_Bisto | 29 January 2010 - 8:02pm

this is just a list of

this is just a list of 'women in pop' you might as well have a 'from elvis to chipmunk' thread - how did we get from the king of rock n roll to er, the donny osmond of grime. there is no connection or continuum from lulu (why start with her anyway?) to gaga any more than there's a line to be drawn from say paul robeson to mf doom (well, they're both y'know BLACK)- women...in rock!!!!! not in my lifetime!

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WythenshaweLinesman | 29 January 2010 - 8:27pm

Why so serious?

I think the OP has already explained why he chose Lulu - it's the sound of the symmetrical juxtaposition of her name alongside that of GaGa; he just took that as a hopefully light-hearted starting-point for a temporarily engaging diversion.

Which, in the end, is all this blog is aiming to do.

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Black Type | 31 January 2010 - 12:15pm

Thanks

A lighthearted look at 45 years of women in music that's all and we've managed 32. Anyone up for the last 13?

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Dave Amitri | 31 January 2010 - 2:14pm

Sleater Kinney 1997

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TheAwesomeSound | 31 January 2010 - 5:13am

I think this is perfect pop music

Britney Spears 1998


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heshofcheese | 31 January 2010 - 9:46pm

A little indulgence here, if I may

This track was playing when the best looking girl in the club asked me to come back to hers. The best night of my life. Sadly only a one night stand but I still hold a torch...


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heshofcheese | 31 January 2010 - 10:06pm

Garbage Late 90's

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TheAwesomeSound | 1 February 2010 - 5:57am

2000 - Moloko

The divine Miss M.

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Sven Garlic | 1 February 2010 - 7:09pm

2000 Shena Ringo


quite Gagaesque visuals in some of Ms Shena's videos.

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badartdog | 7 February 2010 - 1:30pm

Some omissions I think.....

Sade in the 80s ?
Tracey Thorne in the 90s ?
Norah Jones in the noughties?
Natalie Merchant/10000 Maniacs all over the shop ?

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Harold Holt | 7 February 2010 - 12:02pm

actuallyI HAVE posted smooth operator

somewhere further upstrand

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BigJimBob | 17 February 2010 - 1:07pm

Back to the 70s - Oh Bondage, Up Yours..

wot abaht Polystyrene & X-Ray Spex? I can see her now on TOTP with her braces singing 'Germ Free Adolescents' (although I lack the nous to put any Youtube stuff on this post)

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DeanDwl | 8 February 2010 - 6:18am

Allow me

Poly on TOTP

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Harold Holt | 8 February 2010 - 7:37am

P!NK

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TheAwesomeSound | 17 February 2010 - 4:09am

Excuse my indulgence

and I know we've missed a few years in the noughties but the circle is complete.

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Dave Amitri | 17 February 2010 - 12:29pm
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