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From the desk of Danny Baker - searching for anyone who played fast and loose with the language in their search for a novel name

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Today on the show we got to wondering if BoC were the first to play the umlaut card. And who else has followed. I think they were the first. I also think their old "hook" logo was hijacked by Prince for his squiggle. He obviously was influenced by another minuscule front man.

Anyway I think it might be worth brainstorming at Word for other groups who have modified the language to achieve their brand. Have you done this already? The Monkees? Def Leppard? LED Zeppelin?

That's not how its spelt....

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Let me begin

Shakespear's Sister.
Floor's yours.

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David Hepworth | 25 February 2010 - 11:23am

Pedantry Alert! Pedantry Alert!

Except that 'Shakspear' could be correct, given that Will famously couldn't be hugely arsed with spelling his own name correctly (http://www.shakespeare.org.uk/content/view/689/623/)

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illuminatus | 25 February 2010 - 12:09pm

Which, as Bill Bryson pointed out

means that any variant of his name is correct, apart from the one - Shakespeare - we widely use today.

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Nick Duvet | 27 February 2010 - 5:42am

Pre-

and indeed

-cisely

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illuminatus | 1 March 2010 - 1:56pm

Erm...

A bit obvious, but The Beatles.

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Spartacus Mills | 25 February 2010 - 11:29am

Most of Slade's hit singles

Mama Weer All Crazee Now
Gudbuy T'Jane
Coz I Luv You etc.

Not the band, but an essential part of the brand.

Gorillaz spring to mind...

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Sam Fiddian | 25 February 2010 - 11:32am

Motley

Crue (can't work the umlauts on my laptop).

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Prestonia | 25 February 2010 - 11:35am

And

those 'Thee' bands - Thee Hypnotics and Thee Headcoats spring to mind, although there may have been others.

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Prestonia | 25 February 2010 - 11:37am

Those Killed by Death

funsters

Motörhead

...and umpteen other Umlaut Metal bands

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Ahh_Bisto | 25 February 2010 - 11:38am

Spinal Tap

Have a grammatically impossible umlaut on the 'n'.

Limp Bizkit.

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Brookster | 25 February 2010 - 11:42am

I love Umlaut Metal

best subgenre ever! In fact I'm surprised it doesn't appear here alongside Teutonic Traditional Heavy Metal and Blackened Deathly Thrash Metal

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simonperrins | 25 February 2010 - 1:22pm

gorillaz

which points to hip hop culture which is a whole sea of crazy spelling some of it verging on incomprehensibility.

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Chris G | 25 February 2010 - 11:41am

Lynyrd Skynyrd

were one of the first I can remember

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fortuneight | 25 February 2010 - 11:44am

One or two

The Mo-dettes
Kajagoogoo
Jonzun Crew
Eminem
L'il Louis
Del Tha Funky Homosapien (at a push)
Mos Def
DJ Toolz
Siouxsie
The Mar-Keys
Jazzyfatnastees (their first album is a wonder. No, really)
Rhythim Is Rhythim

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pocket.calculator | 25 February 2010 - 11:55am

more

The Dandy Warhols?
Audio Bullys?
Dizzee Rascal?
Fabolous?
Paramore?
Zwan?
Sugababes?
Jamiroquai?
Mighty Dub Katz?
Motörhead?
Outkast?
Pharoahe Monch?
Playdoe?
Snoop Dogg?

Do you not get dictionaries at fame school?

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badger_king | 25 February 2010 - 11:54am

Wouldn't it be quicker...

to do bands that didn't take liberties with the spelling?

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Formbyman | 25 February 2010 - 11:54am

Freur

Just a squiggle that no one could get to grips with.

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Five-Centres | 25 February 2010 - 11:56am

And morse code

Doot doot

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Lunaman | 25 February 2010 - 8:41pm

Became

Underworld, dontcha know.

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fedoraboy | 4 March 2010 - 1:01am

The Byrds

How silly, but great, is that?

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Richard Lowe | 25 February 2010 - 11:59am

What were they thinking?

Haysi Fantayzee

And not just the name...

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illuminatus | 25 February 2010 - 12:13pm

INXS

or Inxus as I thought it was.

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Five-Centres | 25 February 2010 - 12:16pm

At work today

in reference to the death of Kristian Digby, a colleague compared it with that of "Michael Hutchinson of the Inks"...

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Black Type | 4 March 2010 - 8:35pm

N-Dubz

which should be spelt K.N.O.B.S

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Ahh_Bisto | 25 February 2010 - 12:21pm

Always thought

Sting was a funny way to spell ar*ehole.Sorry,how about Split Enz.

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Pencilsqueezer | 25 February 2010 - 12:23pm

Damn

Ya beat me to it - fashionable misspelling and a reference to their Kiwi origins.

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Baron Counterpane | 3 March 2010 - 12:30pm

Actually...

...loking at the posting dates you beat me to it by miles. Sorry, been away.

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Baron Counterpane | 3 March 2010 - 12:31pm

Mötley Crüe

Megadeth

Queensrÿche

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Sven Garlic | 25 February 2010 - 12:44pm

And in the beginning there was

Tutti Frutti: "A wop bop a loo bop a lop bam bam..."

OK, it's a song not an artist but Jerry Lee is immediately identified with this...

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Mark JF | 25 February 2010 - 1:19pm

Little

Richard,actually.

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logan | 25 February 2010 - 1:29pm

It's been a long day

already...

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Mark JF | 25 February 2010 - 3:06pm

Not a band

but this made me think of the 1940s film Hellzapoppin'.

It's certainly not the earliest liberty taken with the English language for commercial reasons, and appropriately has a turn by Slim Gaillard who decided he needed his very own language to take liberties with http://www.pocreations.com/vout.html

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DLM | 25 February 2010 - 1:37pm

As Kerouac says in On The Road...

"it's all one big -oroonie, baby"

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stimpy | 27 February 2010 - 5:47pm

Agnetha Fältskog and Björn Ulvaeus have two dots over

letters in their names, but ... erm ... they're supposed to be there.

See also Erik Hässle, Frida Hyvönen and quite a few other Swedish artistes.

Actually, come to think of it, Swedes normally do the reverse of Mötley Crüe, as they drop the two dots (not an 'umlaut' in Swedish) to anglify their names. So ... Erik Hassle.

Hälsningar från Stockholm

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duco01 | 25 February 2010 - 1:54pm

And of course

in Swedish you would pronouce Mötley Crüe as Mutley Crew, which conjours up an image of old dogs sniggering in a wheezing fashion, which is quite apt nowadays really. And ü not a valid letter since the extra Swedish letters are only ö,ä and å, pronounced roughly uh, eh and aw respectively. I knew those Swedish lessons would come in useful one day. Don't know about German umlauts though.

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Sven Garlic | 25 February 2010 - 7:07pm

In German, the 'ö' sound is

In German, the 'ö' sound is like the 'o' in worm, so not much difference.

Crüe, however, would be prounced something like 'crew-eh'.

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Brookster | 26 February 2010 - 9:55am

..

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Sven Garlic | 25 February 2010 - 7:08pm

Mutley Crew

Is the name of a dog walking/sitting service.

By the way, I'm tempted to give you an arrow for putting the umlaut over the zero, but that would spoil the effect.

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phlanth | 25 February 2010 - 7:36pm

Was one of those pesky double posts

so I thought I'd tidy it up by reducing it to an umlaut. The over the zero result was a happy accident, much as I'd like to take the credit.

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Sven Garlic | 25 February 2010 - 7:46pm

Have an arrow

for your honesty then.

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phlanth | 25 February 2010 - 8:37pm

What?

No-one's mentioned Sigur Ros? A whole language there on the CD titles. And what about that Sunn ))O or whatever they call themselves. The question is whether such linguistic foibles are an adolescent scrawl on the schooldesk, or encapsulate a whole new world conjured up by the creative artistes. OK, that is a rhetorical question.

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ian | 25 February 2010 - 2:00pm

Sigur Rós (sic)

Jónsi may sing in "hopelandic", or whatever it is he calls it, but I thought the album titles were all 'proper' Icelandic:

- Von [Hope]
- Ágætis Byrjun [A Good Beginning]
- ( )
- Takk... [Thanks...]
- Hvarf / Heim [Haven / Home]
- Með Suð í Eyrum Við Spilum Endalaust [With A Buzz In Our Ears We Play Endlessly]

Maybe one of our Icelandic contributors can help out here...?

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Red Umpire | 25 February 2010 - 9:16pm

Not Icelandic but...

I do know quite a bit about them. Mostly it's only the ( ) album that is sung in Jonsi's own Hopelandic language, though there are a few tracks elsewhere. Everything else is in Icelandic. For example, the track "Staralfur" roughly translates as Star Elves. No joke. "Hoppipolla" is about a game involving puddles. Random or what. That's why its best to not translate their songs!

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badger_king | 26 February 2010 - 9:32am

Sigur Ros

I cannot imagine any possible lyrics that for those wonderful tunes that would make them better rather than worse. I'm happy not knowing.

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paulwright | 1 March 2010 - 3:21pm

The The

Uniquely noun-free. Definitely.

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Captain Underpants | 25 February 2010 - 7:30pm

Uniquely?

How about The Who?

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Inky Fingers | 27 February 2010 - 7:23pm

and The Guess Who

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stimpy | 27 February 2010 - 9:54pm

Mostly Metal Bands making a statement

Helloween
Ratt
Waysted
Megadeth
Kreator
Witchfynde
Starz
Tigertailz
Godz
Hells Belles
Stryper
Limp Bizkit
Lawnmower Deth (although I think that one is on purpose)

and

Bill & Teds band: Wyld Stallions (would,ve been better with a 'z' on the end)

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Rigid Digit | 25 February 2010 - 7:35pm

you're selling William "Bill" S. Preston & Theodore "Ted" Logan

short its fully glory is "wyld stallyns" !:)

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Chris G | 25 February 2010 - 8:42pm

The answer, as always is

XTC

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phlanth | 25 February 2010 - 7:41pm

Wot !!! No

Tygers Of Pan Tang (Where are Uncle and Patrick ? )
Jay Z (Jazzy)
3rd Bass (Third base)
Gang Starr
The Bizzie Boys
Masta Ace

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Sour Crout | 25 February 2010 - 8:30pm

a few more from my iPod

Bob B Soxx & the Blue Jeans
The Cryan Shames
Galaxie 500
Hüsker Dü (or is that correct?)
Maxïmo Park
Miike Snow
The Qemists (from a Now Hear This CD)
Redd Kross
Salt 'n' Pepa
Shadows of Knight
Siouxsie and the Banshees
Sugababes
Tha Dogg Pound (2 for the price of 1)
Wizzard

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Red Umpire | 25 February 2010 - 9:06pm

Husker du?

without umlauts means "Do you remember?" in Norwegian and Danish. According to Wikipedia the name was inspired by a popular boardgame from the 60s and the umlauts were added to make the name more HM.

"Husker du" was also the name of a TV show for OAPs in Norway in the 70s and 80s.

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Norwegian Blue | 27 February 2010 - 8:47pm

TAFKA

Prince, back in his slavery days... o-I->

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Black Type | 27 February 2010 - 5:39pm

Nick Lowe,s..

" Bowi" e.p...and Bowie,s "Subterraneans" on Low, around four mns in , sounds like he,s singing about Cheers actress Shelley Long!

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iggypop | 27 February 2010 - 6:45pm

The Rumour...

....may have originated this cute wordplay 'tribute' concept earlier the same year. Their first album without Graham Parker was called Max in response to the multiplatinum success of an album by a certain Anglo-American band.

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Bo Doogley | 27 February 2010 - 9:34pm
stimpy | 27 February 2010 - 9:56pm

punctuation

there's

- the wandering exclamation of Godspeed You! Black Emperor
- !!!
- Akron/Family
- Therapy?
- ? and the Mysterians
- HAMU(e)MON
- Bonnie 'Prince' Billy (also with quotes instead of inverted commas)

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spt | 27 February 2010 - 6:47pm

5ive

I'm not a 5an....in 5act I think they're 5ucking aw5ul!

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tkdmart | 27 February 2010 - 8:06pm

OI! was fertile ground for those who had a misspelt youth

Skrewdriver
Cock Sparrer
The (ahem) 4 Skins

and talking of the umlaut, you do of course have early Bauhaus - nee bäuhäus

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art vanderlay | 1 March 2010 - 4:26pm

A couple

Dukes of the Stratosphear and Eurythmics for spelling.
Toad The Wet Sprocket for gibberish.

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Harold Holt | 2 March 2010 - 2:55am
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