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I'm falling out of love.

I'm not sure when it began, but we just don't seem to be getting along too well any more.

The long, silent pauses.

The sudden flounces, shutting down without warning.

Frankly, I'm beginning to think it's all over between us.

But what to do?

Is it me, or has Firefox gone to the dogs?
Is the latest flavour of IE as bad as all the others?
What about the NKOTB, Google Chrome?
Does anyone still use Opera?
Is Safari any use on a Microsoft machine?

What browsers do the Massive favour, and why?

(I'm running version 3.5.3 on a 2009 vintage PC, running Vista Home Premium, if that's relevant. And don't get me started on Vista.)

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Totally agree

And I feel in exactly the same situation. Firefox is now officially pants. Realised that things were going awry when it changed all my settings each time a new version was downloaded. Now it takes forever to open my homepage. Tried Opera but there seem to be compatibility issues. I really would rather not use IE, but it seems like the least bad option at the moment. It seems amazing to me that we are forced to put up with such useless operating systems and browsers. Where's the choice when you need it?

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Martin | 1 October 2009 - 2:53pm
Vulpes Vulpes | 1 October 2009 - 5:13pm

I swapped to Chrome months ago

Chrome is light, robust, reliable - all the things Firefox used to be.

I've had no problems with Chrome at all & happily recommend it.

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el hombre malo | 1 October 2009 - 3:29pm

ditto

for same reasons-and speed.

I use Outlook for RSS feeds though as it wasn't great for these when first announced (haven't looked lately), and have a couple of RSS Twitter feeds(Dr Johnson and William Gibson) on my Google homepage, and use IE for work email (Outlook based).

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SpaceBoy | 1 October 2009 - 4:14pm

Thirded

Every Firefox "upgrade" was clunkier and less stable than what it was supposedly intended to "resolve".

Chrome works a treat.

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Archie Valparaiso | 1 October 2009 - 6:45pm

I use Chrome...

...but as far as I can see it won't print from a Mac yet.

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David Hepworth | 2 October 2009 - 7:13am

And another Chrome User

Switched to Chrome on old PC (steam driven) to try and speed the Inrenet use a bit. Worked well, but the old PC was so knackered it used to hang a lot.
Now on Vista, and works like a dream.
Expereince of IE was that it was memory-hungry, bloated and prone to dying in the middle of something important.
Safari is good and worked fine on PC, but I still prefer Chrome.

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Rigid Digit | 1 October 2009 - 6:36pm

Patchy isn't it......

Thought the book was excellent. Nice Cold War focussed thriller.

Film didn't quite cut it for me. Eastwood was miscast....

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Six Dog | 1 October 2009 - 3:31pm

Safari

on the Mac & Pc works for me.
(It's The world's fastest web browser, you know?)

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ChaosandMorphine | 1 October 2009 - 3:37pm

Firefox Hell

I agree Paul, Firefox is rubbish. Every night, every night, it's just the same; it either crashes, takes ages to load up or freezes and comes up with "Not responding" message. It's a total pain, such is the slowness of my computer and the horror that is Windows Vista, this thread reply has taken two hours to write! Well, not quite that long, but you get my drift!

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David Wright | 1 October 2009 - 5:31pm

Vista Vista Vista Vista Vista Vista Vista Vista Vista Vista

Firefox still runs fine for me.

There seems to be a pattern emerging here. My PC is less than 6 months old. I paid £40 extra to have it built with XP installed. Best move I made when I spec'd it.

Hint: don't use Vista.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 1 October 2009 - 5:37pm

apart from not being able to find a nice theme

to make it look pretty, firefox never gives me any trouble at all. But I'm using a macbook, so maybe it's a vista problem.

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inky miss | 1 October 2009 - 5:40pm

Firefox OK - Vista DOA

Using Firefox 3.5.3 on a Macbook Pro. It's a joy and far, far better than Chrome, Safari, Opera et. al.

I also use Thunderbird for Mail and Songbird for a music player* so I'm a bit of a Mozilla fanboy. One day I will switch to Ubuntu and evolve to the next level..

* when not using the quite excellent VLC player.

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James EB | 1 October 2009 - 6:05pm

Must be a Vista thing then

Was scratching my head reading the thread - I hadn't noticed any problems. But then I'm an old fashioned XP kind of a guy. It works well on Apple too - faster than Safari in my Mac.

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Occam | 1 October 2009 - 6:47pm

I'm using Firefox on Windows 7

as well as Vista and XP. I have oodles of plug-ins (Sage, FoxClocks, Flagfox, Ad-block et al). I've never had an issue with it, though I wish they'd come out with an official 64bit version.

I'm happy to report that Windows7 is light years past Vista, which will surely be the new Microsoft Bob

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob

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nicktf | 1 October 2009 - 6:49pm

I thought it was just me

when Firefox kept crashing, taking ages to load etc. When I first switched to it (on Vista) from IE it was superb, but every upgrade to has made it worse.

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Humphrey Plugg | 1 October 2009 - 7:00pm

I'm running firefox 3.5.3 on Mac OS X 10.6.1

plenty of extensions running.

Fairly fast.

Rock solid.

No problem.

I am not about to trot out the tired old Mac/PC thing as I've used Windows 7 a little in the release candidate phase and it too was a much better effort than the utterly sucky Vista.

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illuminatus | 1 October 2009 - 7:35pm

FF 3.5.3, Mac G4, 256k RAM

pretty damn fine for me and faster than Safari but I do flip every 6 months or so, and was I a Camino (nope, thought not) man for about 2 years

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James Blast | 1 October 2009 - 7:49pm

Moved to Opera

I used to use Firefox up until a year ago then suffered with exactly what everyone else is complaining about. Switched to Opera and am very happy (I have a Mac G5). Safari is rubbish!

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Rufus T Firefly | 1 October 2009 - 7:58pm

Safari, no worries

if you're on a Mac that is

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chabsy | 1 October 2009 - 8:07pm

I am on a Mac

and Opera is far more stable. As was Firefox.

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Rufus T Firefly | 1 October 2009 - 10:39pm

Using Firefox with Windows XP

No problems here. That said, I just use it as a basic browser and don't go in for the whistles and bells which were FF's usp.

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Gatz | 1 October 2009 - 8:29pm

I'm with Gatz.

It can be a bit slow to load in but thereafter no worries.

I always had my suspicions as regards Vista. XP trots along fine with me.

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Lenny Law | 1 October 2009 - 10:32pm

It is vista

I run Firefox and Safari on MAC OS 10.5.8 - they both run fast as I want. I also have a EEEPC that runs XP and Ubuntu. Firefox is great in Ubuntu, but a little clunky in XP. However, it is still faster then IE. I guess this is a RAM issue on the netbook.

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BigJimBob | 2 October 2009 - 7:50am

Ok, so those of us with Vista

who can't just run out and buy a different computer/OS, what's the recommendation? (Have tried Safari, thought it rubbish. Am curiously reluctant to try Chrome, primarily because my perception of the Google Corp is that they are an unnecessarily instrusive organisation)

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Humphrey Plugg | 2 October 2009 - 1:15pm

Chrome - Go For It

Chrome is by far the best, simplest and lightest Browser. Beats IE hands down.
Prefer it to Firefox & Opera - just seems quicker
Safari is good but doesn't feel as robust as Chrome.

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Rigid Digit | 2 October 2009 - 6:57pm

Runs great for me

I'm running it on a PC with Vista Home Premium (64 bit) and a laptop with Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit), both with various add-ons, and it's just great on both, and very very stable.

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Nasalhair | 2 October 2009 - 1:46pm

Chrome

If you've never used it you'll be astounded at how fast it is. There ARE occasional glitches with sites but these get fewer as the browser become more mature. Only a handful of extensions as yet (and only if you use the dev version)

install and get it to import your settings. Just don't uninstall whatever you're using until you know you want to stick with it.

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ainsley009 | 2 October 2009 - 6:50pm

J'accuse Paul Waring!

Of internet-related sabotage!

I use Firefox and have never experienced a crash.....until five minutes after first reading this thread, and then it went boing during a Google search. How very odd.

However, that aside, I am very happy with it. Works fine with XP, and I've also switched to Thunderbird for my email after Outlook Express permanently mislaid 2,500 messages.

Have never heard of Chrome, mind, so I might go and have a look.

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renkadima | 2 October 2009 - 7:11pm

*whistles innocently*

A big lad did it and ran away, honest!

Been giving Chrome a go for the last day or so and am pretty impressed, although it's a pain having all the adverts back on the web - is AdBlock available for Chrome?

Still keeping Thunderbird for mail - it's ace, nothing comes close for me.

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Paul Waring | 3 October 2009 - 1:07pm

Gave up on IE years ago

Gave up on IE years ago unless I am forced to use it at work - then its always an old version e.g. IE6

I'm running Firefox on this Vista desktop - and its fine. There are occassionally crashes - but its not as bad as some make out. I just like the fact you can choose from a huge selection of add-in's. Plus password remembering for non-financial sites

Chrome downloaded it - seems ok - but it lacks the functionality of firefox - would only transfer over if FF became a dog.

Safari - got it too - the Apple shop home page just annoys me - just no reason to use

I use FF on my work PC which runs XP - latest version of FF - no problems.

Perhaps it may be a memory problem or machines need defragging

The great thing is the average user has a good choice of browsers and Microsoft will not rule the world with IE browser. I remember using Netscape and how they were elbowed out of the market by IE.

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andrewdavidlong | 3 October 2009 - 1:28pm
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